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Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

THe Khi is NOT a state organization. They are unafilliated with the government of Kansas. They report themselves to be a "non profit" organization. THey receive big money in grants from groups who make big money from the sales of patches and gums due to smoking bans. Most "non profit" lobby groups use the state name in their title so they appear to be associatied with the government. They are not. They say they are unbiased. "Tobacco Free Kansas" is another good example of a money making non profit lobby group!

January 31, 2013 at 10:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

And now there is no choice.

January 31, 2013 at 10:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

That is NOT what pro ban promised! They said the non smoking place would be packed as 80% of people wanted non smoking places! So NOW you're saying that a non smoking place needs to change it's "business model" to attract non smokers?!
You said that businesses would not miss the smokers at all! You insinuated that smokers stink and they had no friends! Is there SOME story that pro ban can hang their hats on? Bans are good for some businesses and very bad for others. Those who choose to cater to adult smokers should be allowed to do that. If you don't want to go there, don't. If you don't want to work there, don't. If no one wants to go to a smoking allowed place, they will close without government intervention. Why do anti smokers want to hang around with smokers so much? Just to have something to whine about?

January 31, 2013 at 10:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

Heh, Bozo, you know what assumptions make you?

January 31, 2013 at 10:18 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

And WE know they are lying. And the KHI knows we know. They also know that newspapers only print pro ban propaganda.

January 27, 2013 at 7:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

Well paid, pharma funded visionairies. Otherwise known as grant sponging lobbyists.

January 26, 2013 at 10:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

If the prices shot up and the revenue to the state stayed the same, that clearly indicates a loss. Bar owners know when their business went to poop. They know who quit coming in. You do not. You can suggest whatever mythical hypothesis comes into your head, to justify this nonsense, but it isn't flying. Kansas should be swimming in an increase of liquor and beer revenue. The 10% tax is only collected in bars and restaurants. The 8% you pay at the liquor store HAS gone up. It's the 10% that has not gone up proportionately.

I would suggest that due to the earthquake in Malaysia, that the earth tilted on it's axis and that's why it doesn't rain in Kansas. It may have also caused some bars to close.
Or, maybe it was the last lunar eclipse? Maybe you're an expert because you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night?

January 26, 2013 at 10:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

I guess the influx didn't happen to all those places that have closed already? Too bad.
You might want to actually read up on smoking ban losses. Google it. St Louis Federal Reserve economist Michael Pakko did a study which is not rosey, and Forbes Magazine did an article which is easy to find. Dr Michael Marlowe, economist, reported on the loss to small businesses. Ofalun, Missouri, City Councilman Jim Pepper reports 5 closed businesses in his small town. Springfield, Missouri reported 11 closed soon after the ban. Do your homework and ease up on the propaganda.

People who "want to be healthy" don't hang out at bars, kiddo, they're at the gym.

There is no influx of non smokers. But keep up the good work. You can fool some of the people some of the time.

January 26, 2013 at 10:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

SO why not allow the bars who want to cater to smokers to do so? Does the entire universe have to revolve around how your clothes smell? Goodness gracious. If the ban has been such a huge success, why don't we allow the bars to choose? If you are correct NONE will. If you are wrong, some will, some won't.

January 26, 2013 at 10:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Study: Kansas' smoking ban hasn't affected business in restaurants, bars

Either ban the selling of tobacco altogether or leave adults alone in adults only businesses.
Let the owner decide. IF no one wants to go to a smokey bar, then the bar will close. That is the choice that the pro ban people will not allow as it would destroy the myth. If 20% of adults want to smoke, and 20% of bar owners want to allow it, and 85% of a bar's customers are smokers, and the other 15% don't care, then who are these incessant whiners and why do they insist of hanging around where they don't want to be and where they are NOT wanted as customers? Maybe they need a shrink?

January 26, 2013 at 9:09 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

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