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From across the pond: "Obama 'believed he had BEATEN Romney' in Denver debate - after ignoring advice of top aides on preparation
Obama believes he'd got the better of Romney as he walked off stage to the dismay of his aides, according to a Democrat close to the campaign
The President failed to prepare properly, opting instead to visit the Hoover Dam the day before the showdown
Democrat claims he was so disdainful of Romney that he didn't think he needed to even engage with him
Had one-liners on 47% prepared but chose not to use them..."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215173/Obama-believed-beaten-Romney-Denver-debate-ignoring-advice-aides.html#ixzz28psV5UYm
This city just keeps on giving when it comes to comic relief on all things political. You have a complete and utter failure as a president who is nothing more than a Marxist through and through. His goal is the the destruction of capitalism and the installation of socialism. He has been doing a masterful job as far as socialism, aided and abetted by a complicit media, the National Socialist Democrat Party, and nearly half the country. 16 trillion in debt, headed for Greece and riots in the streets due to forced austerity. That is where we are headed, and real quickly if he gets another term. But you liberals just keep on heading "forward" with your blinders on and see what happens. It won't be pretty, I guarantee you.
sometimes I think it's a sin
when I feel like I'm winnin'
when I'm losin' again
I'd like to be the first to note the similarity between Romney talking down to Obama and Clint Eastwood talking down to the empty chair. Quite a nice metaphor.
I credit The New Yorker with the idea. They are working on it for a cover or something.
Only in Lawrence would this poll show Obama as winner. Even the guys on MSNBC had Romney winning. The people of Lawrence and Douglas County should be embarressed by their ignorance. They should just suck it up, acknowledge defeat, and prepare for the next round. There is no way to spin a win for Obama, although the locals seem be be hell bent on doing so. Actually Lehr had the best line of the evening "Mr President, your time is up."
And then: "..Liberals hurriedly searched for scapegoats as the edifice collapsed. They closed in on Obama and Lehrer. Even the most diehard Obama defenders did not accept the ridiculously self-serving spin, put out by the president’s employees, that somehow Romney, the buttoned-down Mormon grandpa, won on “style” over the global celebrity Obama, winner of the Grammy Award and friend of Jay-Z and Beyoncé and Anna Wintour. The president, liberals said, lost the first debate not because his economic record is indefensible and his second-term agenda is nonexistent, but because he was not sufficiently nasty...." http://freebeacon.com/on-the-cannibals/
We lost. Governor Romney said what people wanted to hear. President Obama was not articulate.
How about a bit more respect in the poll, LJW? President Obama vs Mitt Romney does not respect Mr. Romney's elected title as Governor. Either make it President and Governor or Mitt and Barak.
Why support Mitt Romney? He's lying to republicans as well.
Think Progress / By Igor Volsky
Fact Check: Romney Told 27 Myths in 38 Minutes During the Debate
Romney won praise for his performance but only accomplished this goal by repeatedly misleading viewers.
October 4, 2012 | Pundits from both sides of the aisle have lauded Mitt Romney’s strong debate performance, praising his preparedness and ability to challenge President Obama’s policies and accomplishments. But Romney only accomplished this goal by repeatedly misleading viewers. He spoke for 38 minutes of the 90 minute debate and told at least 27 myths:
The first debate was what I expected. The president and Mitt jockeyed for position and set themselves up for the next debate. Neither one showed their true position. Mitt lied about some key issues he had said in the past. The President was not clear on the direction America was going go in the next four years.
Unemployment is a key issue and the effects of globalization and foreign economies is part of the problem. How America handles countries like Spain, Greece, Libya, Egypt, etc is important because we have financial investments that are not bringing a return and can help lower the deficit.
How these two men answer the financial crisis is key to winning the election.
bill clinton is the only incumbent president that has ever won the first debate.
Anyone who has read my posts know I am for Romney, and I am definitely excited about him roasting Obama last night. Now is not the time to get too cocky though... I am willing to bet that last night was a wake-up call for Obama and he might just be on fire in two weeks (a historical precedent is Mondale whipping Reagan in their first debate only to have Reagan steemroll him in the next debate and the election). Obama will be backed into a corner after last night and after the beatdown Ryan will put on Biden next week. You can bet Obama will be on his game in the final two debates so Romney better be on his.
It's not a debate, but Mr. Romney "won" the match. Kennedy/Nixon seems to be the one that really might have changed some votes, but that was mainly a radio audience. It's likely to be a nail-biter come November. Romney, despite what he said last night, is still stuck with the R's platform and the Teaparty crowd.
Stop with the dishonest crap beatrice. Everyone saw the debate and knows what Romney said. Good freaking grief, you're embarrassing yourself!!
You libs sound dumber then I expected today. Congrats.
Romney was so aggressive, he not only attacked Obama, he even went after Big Bird!
He might have won the debate (okay, not "might have" -- he won), but he probably lost the vote of undecided mothers across the country. What kind of bully attacks Big Bird in a presidential debate? Next thing, Romney will be taking sippy cups away from babies born to mothers on welfare!
I do hope Obama STOPS doing practice debates with John Kerry. If his trainer is Kerry, of course Obama was lackluster! Compared to Kerry's style, Obama probably thought he was on fire last night.
Commentators from the lamestream media to cable talkers on the left overwhelmingly concur that Obama got his “butt kicked” on Wednesday night. Time magazine’s Joe Klein said, “I’m with all the other talking heads: Mitt Romney won this debate. Barack Obama lost it. I mean, he got his butt kicked. It was, in fact, one of the most inept performances I’ve ever seen by a sitting President.” Makes you wonder which debate the Obama 32% above were watching last night.
Do you think Michelle spanks the pres with her left hand? I bet he got the belt last night.
Cross posted from another thread.http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rating-gallup-debate-romney-2012-10?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=politics
While all of you right wing types are having a good time jump high fiving and slapping each others fannies, I have some very sobering news that just may bring you back to earth.
Obama's approval rating today (as in post debate today) was at 54%, the highest it's been since 2009. It's a post debate "bump" that no one expected. Now, how much of that has to do with true approval of Obama VS. disgust for Mitt Romney, no one knows. But it's definitely not a good sign for Mittens.
Obama ran home like a scalded dog.
I just finished watching it, I can tell you one of the likely reasons Romney so substantially has polled as winning the debate is he finagled the last word on EVERY SINGLE QUESTION which is contrary to the format of the debate, which was supposed to be alternating the first and last word between the two candidates. That gives the appearance (regardless of whether Romney had the superior argument or not on that question) that he won the debate on every single question.
How is the Mope going to avoid spanked again in two weeks? Obviously, that's not enough time to get him up to speed and weaned from the teleprompter. Will he come up with a crisis at the last second? Stay tuned......
Last night we witnessed the beginning of the greatest political decent in US history. Some have already named it... the mile high meltdown! For years conservatives have known that Barrack Obama is not up to the job and now 58 million Americans witnessed it first hand on live TV. In spite of Jim Lehrer's sorry attempt to throw Obama a life line, little Barry just looked down at his podium like a scolded child for most of the debate. At one point, Obama asked Lehrer to "move on" when he was getting his clock cleaned. I actually think Obama did worse last night than in his debate with Clint Eastwood. Obama truly is an empty suit with old worn-out excuses. He was totally unprepared, rambling most of the time and stringing together one liberal cliché after another. Without a teleprompter and Bill Clinton at his side, Obama came across as the inexperienced community organizer that he is. A professional talker in a position way over his head and our economy has paid a heavy price.
And what about Obama's fawning lapdogs in the media. The press has been protecting Obama and covering up his incompetence for the last 6 years. How does Obama repay them, by simply phoning it in last night and the dogs are furious. Even extreme wackjobs like Bill Maher are outraged that Obama didn't mention Romney's "47%" comment. Why didn't Obama bring this up? Since Obama can't run on his pathetic record, what will David Axelrod and his Chicago smear machine think up next? Here's the answer. GQ magazine printed a blistering piece about Romney’s Mormonism in a recent issue. PMS-NBC anchor Lawrence O’Donnell went on one of his vein-popping tirades about Mormonism. The New York Times ran an article titled “Why Race Is Still a Problem for Mormons.” ABC World News Tonight ran a two-part series on Romney’s Mormonism. By the way, this is the same newscast that in 2008 refused to broadcast videotapes showing Jeremiah Wright ranting against whites and Jews. Not to be left out, NBC devoted a full one-hour episode of Rock Center with Brian Williams to examining Romney’s Mormonism.
The best man won last night, Mitt Romney. Obama has been exposed for what he is and I can't wait for Paul Ryan to expose Back-In-Chains-Biden on the 12th. Let's end the incompetence and division this November. Romney-Ryan 2012!
SageonPage 45 minutes ago
No one cares about Gary Johnson, he was soundly rejected by the electorate that counts.
SoP speaks from first hand experience. What was it in 1996, Troy 7200, you 50.
In other news: http://minx.cc/?post=333489
it wasnt obambas fault he did such a poor job
it was his anniversary, and he had other things on his mind
it wasnt his fault, blame it on george bush or the republicans
I cringed every time Romney tried to defend himself against Obama's accusations of him being conservative. However, the fact that centrist Romney appears conservative next to Obama just highlights how far left the president really is.
As far as who won....just ask Chris Matthews.
Biden will do worse. Wait and see.
This looked a lot like George Bush vs Clinton. Bush did not want to be there and neither did Obama. He looks like he wants out and I am sure the American people can accommodate him.
Well Romney did do well, not sure what was up with Obama. He did not have his game face on at all.
Eitherway, from the latest poles and reviews. The first debate has had zero impact on either side. People are still sticking to their guns on who they are voting for.
I think the real debates that will start swinging voters either way is on the 11th with the VPs. Biden I think will win this one bascially because he has the upper edge on being a vet in the political field for longer and has a major upper hand on Ryan with foreign policy. Ryan has little to nothing on dealing with foreign policy. Also, Biden is well respected politically then Ryan is. BUT we shall see.
The next one is on the 16th which is a town hall meeting and not scripted like the first. This I think is were Obama will most likely take control. This will be in front of normal people asking questions form swing states and undecided. These people are by average more educated on what is going on and have done more of their homework. rather then just go with the flow like the states that are dominate one way or the other. Also were Romney is going to get hurt is he has built his campaign on negativity and in the swing states.. negativity is not a good thing for them. They are looking for positives and reality checks and willing to get hands dirty and willing to make sacrifices to make things better.
However,.. even after last nigh. latest polls still show Obama taking it for a 2nd term.
And over on Slate: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/10/03/mitt_romney_beats_barack_obama_first_debate_is_a_decisive_victory_for_republican_challenger.html
What bothered me most was hearing Romney refer to the President of the United States as a lying boy and not have that gambit flame up in Romney's face.
October 4, 2012 at 9:10 a.m
The vast majority of the time the word "boy" means exactly that. A boy. An adolescent male. Quit race baiting. Although I'm sure Pitts will make a big to do about it in his next oppression piece.
Obuma is a joke! The look on his face was that of a cat getting a bath!! He can't put two words together without his 'TeleTubby Teleprompter'! The shallow community organizer was shown for the fraud he is! He got a lesson in American history and was shown that he relies so heavily on his 'handlers' that he can't speak off the cuff or address the real issues we face. Dump the chump now! He looked like a child begin scolded when Romney used facts and an understanding of how things really work.
Is that right? So you can speak definitively on how the President spent his time, huh?
October 4, 2012 at 8:35 a.m.
You seem to think you can.
Just face it, OBUMMER lost!
He stumbled and bumbled his way thought it just like his first 4 years!
WHAT A LOSER!
I think Obama and Romney should settle this through a Pokeman battle.
by Cait McKnelly
but we all now know that Obama will cut 716 billion from our seniors medicare to pay for his Obamacare.
boy, if I had a quarter for everytime I heard that phrase...and a lot of "my plan"...not the plan or our plan but my plan. He may purty but that boy is shy on substance. that Milton.
Romney undoubtedly won the debate last night, but I'd contend that he should have; which man had more time to prepare? One's the President of the United States, the other's just campaigning. I'd say only one had a schedule that included 5 twenty hour days for each of the last two weeks.
My guess is that this going to be Romney's strongest stage and that things will even out considerably in the next two. I haven't read the fact checker reviews yet, but if he pulled a Ryan-esque play w/ the truth Romney will certainly be facing a double-barrel Obama next time out.
"By the way, to show how stupid polls are, I picked Obama and did not even watch the debate."
Yup, "polls are stupid" because they don't allow for jackasses or the dishonest.
"I didn't watch because it will not change my -- or anyone's mind one way or the other."
Nope. Never does. Had no effect on Lincoln. JFK vs. Nixon? Meant nada. Bush/Clinton/Perot? Didn't move the meter. "Debates are stoopid" 'cuz we should all just gobble the McNuggets and continue griping about how bad the food is...
"So, I watched Scobby Doo with my two kids and the world was a much safer place for it..."
...and we should denounce them while alluding that one might get so angry as to cause harm. Excellent.
Either way, most Americans lose.
We all lose because these are the best that this country appears to offer. Gary Johnson had a nice commentary alongside the debate; too bad he was denied access to the stage.
No one won. Romney was an attack dog whose barking lies were far worse than his factual bite. You don't "win" a debate on lies. (Fact checkers are having a hayday this morning.) Obama was just....there. Lehrer should have his butt kicked and never be allowed to moderate a debate again. The only real good that came out of this debate was that Romney was given enough rope to hang himself.
If this poll was in New York, Obama would have won the poll.
By the way, to show how stupid polls are, I picked Obama and did not even watch the debate.
I didn't watch because it will not change my -- or anyone's mind one way or the other.
All it would do is piss me off....
So, I watched Scobby Doo with my two kids and the world was a much safer place for it....
talking over or railroading past the mediator certainly made me question if this is a man who can handle proper negotiating skills with foreign and domestic policies.
"WAS THAT A DEBATE ?"
Not really. It was more like an assault.
/ go mitt dandy! go mitt dandy!
WAS THAT A DEBATE ? THERE WAS NOTHING TO WIN OR LOOSE.
I'm afraid the loser was America.
Romney was rude, arrogant and still telling the same lies. Lehrer was weak, wouldn't call him on speaking past time or over the President and it was obvious Obama didn't want to be there.Can you blame him,it was his 20th Wedding Anniversary.
the president didn't show up, was unprepared, showed no emotion and just looked like he didn't want to be there, it wasn't pretty
Romney won easily. I expected Obama to crush him but boy was I wrong.
We don't get American TV here, but from what I have been able to get from the internet, Romney won.
It's no surprise that (so far) the votes seem to go to President Obama. Those who regularly visit this site are predominately left leaning. Odd though, that even Bill Maher tweeted that Romney won the debate. Guess I'm not surprised at the vote here so far.
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