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The Vets fought for all states and should be afforded some benefits for it!
How did the vets fight for all the states?
The veterans fought for the United STATES (all states!) of America!
You can't be serious with that question? If so, you rank right up there with the surrender-in-chief that said he had campainged in 57 states and had two more to go.
You should read what Marine Corps General and 2 time winner of the CMH Smedley Butler has to say about who the military fights for. It is not the States. The Title is "War is a Racket"
They should pay less
You haven't been keeping up with the GI bill. Congress has not been kind. One of the reasons it was suggested to charge vets instate is to aline it with GI bill. I hope we can do this. A lot of vets coming home haven't a home state they have visited for years. Some of the men and women serving through fort Riley feel like their home state is Kansas. I am not only talking about the men and women coming home from Bush's wars but for all the vets. I welcome them to our Universities and colleges. They are mature, they have training which coupled with academic credentials will bring valuable workers to the state. Of course educated well trained mature workers might not be easily beaten into" being thankful for any job at any pay" which seems to the goal for the teas.
It is time to put some spine and muscle into those yellow ribbon thought balloons.
Yeah, I was looking for the "less" option. IMO, they've paid quite a bit for the country as a whole. Let them in for free.
Though I have no direct stake in this, I say return to them what they payed forward with their sevice to our great country and grant this benefit at the soonest possible time.
Note to all local legislators - please have this drafted and presented for passage on the first day of the 2012 session.
They give graduate students in-state status regardless of citizenship (if they are GRAs or GTAs) and it would be awesome if they did it for veterans.
In-state in all states.
Right on. And how dare someone pretend the GI bill was an unearned freebie. What a goon.
I voted no. No compelling reason why a federal employee who happens to be employed in a voluntary military should get this special treatment. Am shocked at all who normally bemoan federal employee leeches are so inclined to give away special treats to this group.
I suppose you are the same joker who thinks it is fair game to rob pension funds and let insurance companies use fraud to reduce costs. After all if you can cheat someone, it is their fault.
Actually, no, I am probably the exact opposite of the sort you describe.
That is completely inaccurate. The only time military members have the option to "choose" a home state is when they get stationed somewhere and can either keep their home of record or claim residency in the new state they are stationed in. You can't change anything when you get out. And you certainly can't "choose" a home state at any time. It's not like I can be from Montana and stationed in Florida and decide I want Kansas to be my "home state" when I get out.
If their tuition is not free it should be very close to it. Their service and sacrafice should have some concrete benifits associated with it. I realize they joined the military because they wanted to. Its a tough job but someone has to do it! Most of us won't or don't join for what ever reason and that should an individuals right as well. However, if you want to keep the military on a voulntary basis there should be some rewards or benefits upon completing their term. In other words, make the draft a dead issue. Among the other benefits our veterans receive our government should do a better job of providing the combat vets with PTSD diagnosis and treatment. Many have to wait too long for assistance, some never get it, resulting with some form of melt down.
I already posted this on the story about the bill, but I want to post it here too:
While this proposed bill is definitely intended as a veterans benefit, it would also be a great benefit to the state. For-profit and public colleges and universities all over the country are competing like crazy for the huge number of soldiers leaving our re-deploying and shrinking military and using their GI Bill benefits. Several states already have laws on the books allowing veterans to come in as in-state students. KU and other Kansas schools will be missing out on an enormous opportunity to recruit a large number of high quality, highly motivated students with a guaranteed source of tuition. If a veteran on the GI Bill can choose between dozens of colleges in other states and pay no out of pocket expense, or come to Kansas and have to cover the difference of out-of-state tuition, what do you think the chances of KU snagging them are? So even if you are among those who don't think vets deserve any special treatment, it's also an important matter for our state and for KU especially with the recent decline in enrollment and tightening of budgets.
If they're out of state students they should pay the out of state tuition rates.
No, they shouldn't pay any tuition.
Can we ever really do enough for our Vets?
In=state in all states. Let us not be one of the last states to do this.
If illegal aliens get in state tuition, I would think those who have actually risked all to serve the country should get in state tuition as well.
KU charges anyone with any military background out of state, unless you appeal their ruling. It does not matter that you were from KS before during or after, if you have anything remotely sounding like military service, you are charged out of state tuition.
Don't confuse them. You are right.
Is this just the Fed stealing money from the States in the name of patriotism? If the GI bill pays tuition, does it really matter if it's in state or out of state? If there is a significant advantage for the veteran and we are not just footing additional costs that the GI Bill would largely cover and all or most other states are doing this, it might seem to make sense. We should also consider tax issues, though. It is true that the military limits the places a soldier can indicate as home and they must specify in advance, but soldiers often choose home state (among their limited choices) based on state income tax rates. So, a soldier who could choose between Kansas or Texas has a big incentive to choose Texas because state income tax rate in Texas is zero. State income tax in Kansas subsidizes in state tuition, I think. Kansas ends up footing the bill for both the Fed and Texas. I don't like refusing the soldier the discount, but if we don't make it hard on the Fed to recruit good soldiers, we will continue to see these stupid blood for oil, blood for corporate interest wars.
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