Poll: Should out-of-state Kansas University students pay lower tuition rates if one of their parents graduated from KU? / LJWorld.com

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Response		Percent	Votes
No.		50%	498
Yes.		44%	443
Not sure.		4%	49
Total	990

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CarterFaucheaux (anonymous) says…

Let's find a way to make sure the University is even shorter on cash. Good idea.
February 4, 2009 at 2:27 a.m.
JackMartin_KUCommunications (Jack Martin) says…

This poll's question does not accurately describe the proposal.These students would not be granted in-state tuition, but would rather pay a tuition rate that covers the full cost of their education. This would be lower than the current out-of-state rate, but still above the in-state rate so that Kansas taxpayers would not be subsidizing their education.More information is available here: http://www.news.ku.edu/2009/february/... MartinUniversity Communications
February 4, 2009 at 7:09 a.m.
canyon_wren (anonymous) says…

How can the university calculate the tuition rate that "covers the full cost of [a student's] education"? Students in different programs pay different amounts for their education, and many switch majors in midstream. It still doesn't sound fair to me. The only way I would think that is a reasonable suggestion is if we are letting "undocumented" (the new politically-correct term) students pay as residents, rather than non-residents. I don't remember what the latest is on that subject, but that is even LESS fair, in my opinion.
February 4, 2009 at 7:36 a.m.
notajayhawk (anonymous) says…

Well, let's see - they aren't supporting the University with their taxes, and their parents didn't stay here after graduating, so there's no reason to expect they will.Um - just why *WOULD* we want to give them a tuition break, again? Because their parents paid less already?Brilliant plan.
February 4, 2009 at 7:49 a.m.
JackMartin_KUCommunications (Jack Martin) says…

The poll has been reworded and now more accurately describes the plan, which would also take academic achievement into account when determining what students would be eligible.
February 4, 2009 at 8:27 a.m.
Pywacket (anonymous) says…

Nice try, Jack, but it's still a bad idea, IMO.I'm a KU alum. My two oldest kids are presently KU students.We are considering moving to another state while our youngest child is still in grade school. If we do so, we should establish citizenship in that state and pay in-state tuition there when it's time to send our youngest to university. Or, if he wants to go to KU, we should pay out-of-state tuition to send him there at that time. Why would it be fair for us to get a break on his tuition if we have moved away and have been supporting another state's economy for several years?In other words, I see a very real and very possible scenario in which this proposal would benefut me personally, but looking at it objectively and putting my personal gain aside, I do not see it as a plan that is fair or advantageous to Kansans.
February 4, 2009 at 8:41 a.m.
grammaddy (anonymous) says…

Isn't there already an "alumni discount"?
February 4, 2009 at 8:52 a.m.
BABBOY (anonymous) says…

"CarterFaucheaux (Anonymous) says… Let's find a way to make sure the University is even shorter on cash. Good idea."Response:Very short sided. The other side of this coin is that the lower rate can draw students who might otherwise stay home meaning you get more tuition.
February 4, 2009 at 9:08 a.m.
beawolf (anonymous) says…

No. But I would like to see non-resident alumni children get in-state tuition rates.
February 4, 2009 at 11:11 a.m.
dsmith84 (anonymous) says…

Kansas has a similar exchange program with state universities of other close states, including Missouri, Minnesota, and Illinois, where someone from Kansas going to a state school in one of those states pays halfway between the normal out of state and the in-state tuition. I think it is a good way to draw out of state students.
February 4, 2009 at 11:12 a.m.
RiverCityConservative (anonymous) says…

Personally, I like the idea that is beingfloated regarding a new tuition categorybetween out-of-state and in-state, andtargeting children of KU grads living outsidethe state. I have met a number of kU gradsin other places outside of Kansas--thereare high numbers in NYC, for example, doing some of the best jobs in that town.KU graduates who relocate outside thestate do a lot to bring further prestige tothe university. This is a nice way to recognize them and their families witha kind of "honorary Kansan" status.Great idea.
February 4, 2009 at 11:44 a.m.
George_Braziller (anonymous) says…

A friend of mine attended KU, lived, worked, and paid taxes, in Kansas for ten years then lived in England for three. She came back and wanted to finish her degree. After she moved back she was told she had to live in the state for an entire year before she was eligible for in-state tuition. KU wouldn't budge. Why should spawn of children or grandchildren of KU grads get in-state tuition if they have never lived here?
February 4, 2009 at 5:14 p.m.
paq (anonymous) says…

Yes I think children of alumni should get some kind of discount on tuituion, especially if the state is still allowing non U S citizens pay in-state tuition.
February 4, 2009 at 6:20 p.m.
Pywacket (anonymous) says…

I totally agree, George! I used to work in KU Admissions before I became a full-time student and obtained my degree. They were sticklers for the 1-year-residency rule. If KU want's to make a good-will gesture and cut anybody a deal on tuition, instead of targeting children of out-of-state alums, why don't they target the cream of the academic crop? Why not extend the offer to kids in the top 2-3% of their graduating classes? I could've used a deal like that when I graduated HS and my divorced and overwhelmed parents had neither the money nor the wherewithal to help me get to college.There are a lot of academically gifted but impoverished kids who slip through the cracks and either never receive an education or have to claw their way to one (and often end up under educated and never reach their potential). Look to them! Recruit top students the way the top jocks are recruited. If some of them happen to be the spawn (as George puts it) of KU alums, call it serendipity!
February 4, 2009 at 6:27 p.m.
del888 (anonymous) says…

if they're out of state, they should pay DOUBLE
February 4, 2009 at 7:33 p.m.
iLikelawrence (anonymous) says…

would rather see that than non legal students getting in state tuition.
February 4, 2009 at 8:49 p.m.
davidsmom (anonymous) says…

My son, born and raised in Kansas, went to a university in another state that gave him in-state tuition. He moved to a different state for a job, and about the time he'd lived there long enough to get in-state tuition, he returned to Kansas and was not eligible for in-state tuition until he'd lived here a year...essentially making him, for tuition purposes, a homeless child.
February 4, 2009 at 9:55 p.m.