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Should homeless shelters be allowed to open near residential neighborhoods in Lawrence?

Response Percent Votes
No.
 
67% 747
Yes.
 
24% 277
Not sure.
 
7% 86
Total 1110

Comments

MIke Mallory 6 years, 3 months ago

I employee 2-4 of these people per day, some use the money just for booze and cigarettes and come to work everyday with no money, but I have had a couple that have gotton off the streets and into housing, its a matter of choice, they are not all bad people, but like life it is a choice, help yourself or let the government take care of you.

jhawkjunkie 6 years, 3 months ago

George Carlin said it best, " We have a thing in this country called NIMBY, Not In My Back Yard!" Everyone wants to help out, everyone will scream about helping out the unfortunate, unless the help happens to be located in thier neighborhood.

oldvet 6 years, 3 months ago

Yes, as long as they cannot be located within one mile of a school or park...

David Albertson 6 years, 3 months ago

There is absolutely no reason for anybody to be homeless in this country. These people choose that lifestyle. We have a Federal Housing Authority to assist anybody in need. We have churches that will help a person to get on their feet. I feel no pity for any of them. Feel free to flame me, but it's the truth.

grammaddy 6 years, 3 months ago

Nobody chooses homelessness. Many become that way through no fault of their own. Federal Housing Authority..what a joke. Why don't you try to extend your hand like so many of the illegal immigrants have had extended to them instead of blaming the victim.I'll say it again..Barstop you elitist pig.

Satirical 6 years, 3 months ago

I think it is up to each neighborhood whether they want to allow a homeless shelter in their area. With that said, most neighborhoods would probably not agree to having one, and neither would I since it would almost certainly decrease the value of homes in the area. And before people start calling me heartless, I would not want a homeless shelter on my street realizing there are alternatives. I support homeless shelters.

David Albertson 6 years, 3 months ago

Grammaddy, we have something like 20 million illegal immigrants in this country. Do you see them sleeping on the streets? Do you see them begging? No, they WORK TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES! Plus they have several government agencies trying to arrest and deport them but they make it. Many of them have nice cars and live in decent houses. If they can do it, why can't our own people? They choose to be on the street.

tangential_reasoners_anonymous 6 years, 3 months ago

In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since."Whenever you feel like criticizing any one," he told me, "just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had." - F. Scott

Richard Heckler 6 years, 3 months ago

The River Front Plaza still has plenty of vacant space as does the Tanger Mall. Both have more than adequate space to house the services that will encourage progress for the homeless. Both have plenty of space to separate families from the others. The old Allen Press building definitely has plenty of space.There are opportunities in the area which are seemingly ignored.

grammaddy 6 years, 3 months ago

We'll see if any of the negativity turns to compassion a year from now when the economy is in even worse shape and more of us regular people have become homeless. Barstop you elitist pig.

notajayhawk 6 years, 3 months ago

So this question is asking 'Should people who have no place to live be given places to live where other people live?'As opposed to where else?

yoornotmee 6 years, 3 months ago

grammaddy says:"Nobody chooses homelessness."You're naive. You have absolutely no idea how many of the homeless people asking for your change downtown are there because they chose to be. On the street they have no responsibilities and they can survive off the good nature of others. Some bums (yes, bums) make more money than you do (not the ones in Lawrence though). You can easily make $300+ an hour standing on a busy street corner (like near a shopping center around the holidays). If you put "God Bless" on your sign, you'll make even more. Now yes, there are people who don't chose to be homeless and there are programs to help those people. But what you're not realizing is that there is an entire subculture that relies on the good will of others and they are there because they choose to be.

coolmom 6 years, 3 months ago

omg i would be interested also to see where everyones heads are a year from now if our economy continues as is. molly lang i think it is you who are naive. choosing to stand on a street corner to easily make 300 plus a day what? lol? i am sure people are losing their homes and jobs and going on the street with their families to stand on a corner and make 300 a day lol. as a percentage who want to live on the street it isnt that high and many of them are mentally ill or drug abusers i think people say oh, they want to be there to make it easier not to see them or to see ourselves potentially in them.

David Albertson 6 years, 3 months ago

I love the way some of these so called adults resort to childish name-calling. Grammaddy, maybe you would change your mind if you had a $150 window broken out of your car so a bum could steal 75 cents in change. As for the immigrants, nobody and I repeat nobody extended anything to the immigrants I know. They saved what little they could before they came here, worked as hard and as often as they could. They went to school and studied hard to learn a trade while they were learning English and raising 2 kids. Now 10 years later, they have a $200,000 home in Johnson County and have achieved the American Dream. People living on the street and begging on the corner are an embarrassment to us all. If any of you think they aren't there by choice, stop at the corner and offer them a little work, maybe raking the leaves or mowing the lawn for a few dollars. I assure you its a waste of time. They want, and are used to free handouts. You perpetuate the problem when you give anything to them.

beatrice 6 years, 3 months ago

Veterans account for nearly a quarter of all the homeless in America. Are you sure you want to just kick those who are down?"But what you're not realizing is that there is an entire subculture that relies on the good will of others and they are there because they choose to be."Same is true of churches. If hard-working Americans stopped giving their money away to churches, they would just close shop and head elsewhere. We could clean up the mess of separation of church and state if we just got rid of those pesky churches. There is a simple cure for homelessness in America. Too bad we are too cheap to make the cure a reality.

oldvet 6 years, 3 months ago

"We'll see if any of the negativity turns to compassion a year from now when the economy is in even worse shape and more of us regular people have become homeless."1, When the messiah is elected with his liberal congress majority, everything will be fixed and the world will be right...2. Us "regular people" do everything possible to avoid getting into that situation... maybe it means multiple jobs, even at lower wages, maybe it means working weekends too... but "regular people" take the steps to avoid homelessness... drunks and bums don't bother...

George_Braziller 6 years, 3 months ago

Huh? When did being homeless make someone a kidnapper or rapist? I hope you always have a roof over your head so that no one ever makes such stupid comments about you honey.--------------------------------------------------------sparks05sam (Anonymous) says: there is no way in hell i would want a homeless shelter around my house! i would never put my kids in that danger! honestly i would be afraid my kids might get kidnapped or raped or something horrible like

anothernoz 6 years, 3 months ago

Lawrence already has these type of homes located in different nieghborhoods thru out the city. They are for pepole who pass certian criteria, and these homes are doing good thing's for folks, who find they have made some wrong dission's in life, or broken homes because of violence ect. They are screened before being excepted, and they are not hurting the nieghborhood's and in some case's they work and pay there way. Lawrence is Blessed...

George_Braziller 6 years, 3 months ago

barstop you are so out of touch with reality it is frightening. There is a relatively small percentage of homeless who chose to be so. Most have been put into the situation because of things out of their control. Do you have any clue as to how long the waiting list is for housing through Housing Authority? Being homeless puts you at the top of the list but you are still looking at easily five or six months (usually longer) before there is an opening.---------------------------------------------------------------bartstop (Anonymous) says: There is absolutely no reason for anybody to be homeless in this country. These people choose that lifestyle. We have a Federal Housing Authority to assist anybody in need. We have churches that will help a person to get on their feet. I feel no pity for any of them. Feel free to flame me, but it's the truth.

Scattered 6 years, 3 months ago

The problem of the homeless in America continues to grow due to two factors: closing of mental health facilities (which began with the Reagan administration) and the worsening economy.Do you have any idea how difficult it is to obtain competent mental help, even if you have insurance to pay for treatment? A prime example is the closing of the mental health wing at LMH; a real tragedy in a town of this size with a large student population. It is estimated that 1/3 of those living on the streets are mentally ill. A NY Times article reports that one half of the homeless in Berkley, Ca are DEINSTITUTIONALIZED mentally ill . Where can these ill people go? I am reminded of the sick and dying on the streets of India...forgotten by most through no fault of their own.This is a very sad commentary on a society that cannot accept the fact that MENTAL HEALTH IS NOT A CHOICE. I find this fact shocking..."at any given time there are more mentally ill living on the street than being treated in a hospital." As the economy continues to deteriorate, there will be more and more homeless families and working poor. A study in 2000 showed that 44% of the homeless interviewed had actually worked part or most of the previous week. A Detroit worker making minimum wage would need to work 116 hours weekly to be able to afford a subsidized apartment at approximately $700. In many communities the vast majority of homeless are families. Some communities are setting up special lots where women and/or women and their children can sleep in their cars at night then attend school or work during the day. These lots are patrolled for their safety.I hope and pray that those of you with no compassion will be able to see and read enough to convince you that those who "use" the system are the rare bad apples. Those of us who are fortunate enough to have good health (mental and physical) and the ability to care for ourselves by means of a job, savings or family fortune are extremely blessed. "There but for the grace of God go I" is something we need to keep in mind,

sparks05sam 6 years, 3 months ago

there is no way in hell i would want a homeless shelter around my house! i would never put my kids in that danger! honestly i would be afraid my kids might get kidnapped or raped or something horrible like that. and as for giving money on the streets hell no! the one time i gave money i looked at this man as hard as i could! and i felt hope for him that this $5 could really change his life...ha 10 mins later i saw him walk out a liquior store i realize thats not everyone but thats what ended any sympathy i had. im not trying to support someone elses bad habbit. the only people i give money to is the beautiful people who stand out in the cold raising money for the salvation army during christmas my grandmother did it and i know what kind of an amazing person it takes:)

cbanister 6 years, 3 months ago

I moved to the NYC area 2 years ago and it's abundantly clear just how many homeless people there are out there. It's astounding that so many people answered as they did. You don't know what caused someone to be in the situation they are in. They need some place to live, too. In these hard times, you, too could end up on the streets. Think about it.

Tony Kisner 6 years, 3 months ago

My neighborhood could use one, right at my address. The government should supply me with a house, two cars, free food and a grill to cook it on. It also needs to be a wet shelter as I do enjoy a beer or two on the weekends. If I had these things provided it would free up more time for me to nail down some of my big ideas about how the world should work.

ralphralph 6 years, 3 months ago

There are some who choose the streets, and there are many who have no choice or no ability to make a choice. When we had the move to 'mainstream' the mentally ill, a huge number of seriously impaired people were 'liberated' from institutions to end up homeless. We must help those who CANNOT help themselves, as opposed to those who WILL NOT help themselves. Sometimes it gets hard to tell which is which ... if you have a Mercedes, you're probably the latter, but you're probably a rare bird. In order to help those who really need it, you are inevitably going to be open to a degree of abuse; that doesn't mean we shouldn't help those who truly need it.

jnixon 6 years, 3 months ago

I think it needs to remain near 'WORK' ... Keeping in mind that most in need of shelter are also in need of transportation and without the 'T' within walking distance of possible employment would be ideal...

David Albertson 6 years, 3 months ago

When I installed the street lighting under Bartle Hall in downtown KCMO a couple years ago, everyday we watched a so called "homeless" guy get out of a Mercedes Benz, a $50,000+ car, so he could stand on the corner with his cardboard sign. He only shaved about once a week and he had long hair but it was clean and so were his clothes. He wasn't homeless, he was making easy money. They profit from peoples good will. I know there are people out there that have mental problems and need help, but there are places for them to go. If you feel the need to help people, donate to a charity. Free hand-outs all too often encourage crooked people to be lazy.

beawolf 6 years, 3 months ago

"I know there are people out there that have mental problems and need help, but there are places for them to go".....OK, Where? Other than a an occasional free meal, there are no places that meet the long term needs of these people. Mental health facilities are overbooked and understaffed. All current homeless shelters are at capacity. The Salvation Army runs out of food and clothing regularly. Hospitals turn them away. Churches will save your soul but not your body. Federal and state government help is almost non-existent. Ninety cents out of every dollar goes towards administrative cost. Local governments totally ignore the situation. Charities are going under because nobody donates.It's apparent from the apathy of this society, that most of us just don't give a damn and those that do are an extreme minority.

coldandhot 6 years, 3 months ago

PEOPLE!!!! These are homeless families.

gl0ck0wn3r 6 years, 3 months ago

"merrill (Anonymous) says: The River Front Plaza still has plenty of vacant space as does the Tanger Mall... There are opportunities in the area which are seemingly ignored."That's because, despite your best efforts, this isn't SimHeckler where the government can simply take private property and turn it into whatever you don't want near your house. Both of your "opportunities" are not opportunities unless the land is actually for sale and last I checked, it isn't. I know that's not how it works in your fantasy land of roundabouts, pesticide free people's communes and T buses... but that's how it works in the real world. I do, however, find your hypocrisy on this issue quite amusing. The only real reason you are against this is because the potential shelter is near your house.

grammaddy 6 years, 3 months ago

Thank you, scattered. you put into words the point I was trying to get across.thankyou,thankyou thankyou.

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