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Answered not sure.
I understand the reasons for not allowing it. But in the context of the question define "drinking alcohol".
If I have one beer while grilling some steaks, is that considered drinking? How about an hour later, with no more alcohol consumed? Am I still to be considered drinking?
Going to the bar and planning on getting faced. Sure... common sense dictates that if I'm purposely putting myself into an inebriated state that I should not be handling firearms.
But casually sipping on a cocktail or beer over the span of hours, where you stay well below legal limits should be factored in. In those cases I see no harm.
I wish these polls were linked to the story that inspired them.
To the question: I find myself agreeing with Jesse. Not sure, it depends on the situation and location. State law already prohibits a CCH licensee from carrying in a bar or other known nuisance. The law also defines 0.08 as the legal blood alcohol content which is the same limit for DUI.
Who "sips on a cocktail beer over the span of hours"?
Take it away until they are sober and then give it back. Same thing they would do with a car. The police do not allow you to drive it home if stopped and found to be DUI.
who gets shot when in this interchange?
Does this question even really need to be asked? Seriously?
my thought completely!
Yes it definitely must be asked. The anti drug, conservative, gun toting nuts love their alcohol (which is a mind altering drug). Then they get in fights over whose cousin did who and then the gunfire begins.
If one is drinking alcohol, should they get into an automobile, try to drive, and crash into an innocent motorist? They do. And drunks will carry and, with impaired judgment, use guns. Alcohol is the problem.
Or people. Get rid of them varmints and guns and alcohol are perfectly safe!
hmmm...does an M-60 no buttstock in a golf bag with wheels count?
"Curly Bill!! Easy now, hand over those guns..."
"Ah Pa! I'm just funnin'. I feel just...capital!"
Who is going to enforce such a thing? Where will the manpower come from to do so?
I was wondering the same thing.
What about a bazooka? Anti-aircraft gun? Nuclear weapon?
I mean, if you are going to go all out, why not go all the way? An Army of One, Each to His Own -- isn't that your motto?
If your argument is that states don't have the right to limit access to guns, where do states have the rights to limit access to any form of weapon? Do they have the right to make reasonable limits or don't they?
Depends on how many people you can get to think like you, I guess. If you want a law passed, gather signatures, get it on the ballot, then vote.
Alcohol will delude these guys into thinking they're really carrying something in their pants besides lint.
Except they might hit the innocent bystander 100 yards away.
I love the way the legislature is doing this. We are incrementally heading towards what some other states have. Open carry and no need for a permit. That is exactly what was intended with the Second Amendment, and I love it. It is what I have spent most of my life as an NRA Life Endowment Member working towards.
Well, as the law is now you can open carry in Kansas without a permit as long as you are not a felon or restricted by some other lawful reason. However I think you will meet with so much scrutinty when you do by people you pass on the street and all law enforcement officers that you will soon find it undesireable to do.
But you also won't be jumped by any "thugs."
nothing like a drunk person aiming and singing "Give me back my bullet"...
wow, what a dumb state I'm surrounded by. And yes I own guns, passed
hunters safety when I was 11, and am the son of a gun collecter and we are
both democrats who want nothing to do with the NRA end of the world stock up
and freak out facist crowd.
I voted yes. I don't think that alcohol consumption makes me more likely to use a weapon against someone. I wouldn't even consider firing my weapon on another human being unless my life or the life of my family were in danger. If I was in a situation where my life was in danger, do I lose the right to defend it because I have had a drink? I guess mine is the perspective of a responsible adult who places a lot of value on human life. I also am not the type to put myself in situations where my life could be put in any increased risk. Incidentally, I do have a concealed carry license, but I do not carry if I am out for a night on the town. Why would I?
I realize that my philosophy may be the exception and not the rule, but my right to concealed carry is not synonymous with my right to use deadly force. In fact, I cannot think of one situation where discharging my weapon in public would be appropriate regardless of any life threatening situation I might find myself in, and I'm pretty sure that due process would bear that out as well.
This poll is worthless with the limited choices.
There should be this choice:
0 - Should a license holder be able to carry their gun after drinking a moderate amount of alcohol as long as they are within the legal limits?
This poll and the related story is much ado about nothing. Maybe the law was changed because there were relatively few problems with that to begin with. As a rule, people who are responsible enough to take the course and go through the background check to get a license are quite probably not the ones you progressive elitists need to worry about. On the other hand, the poor misunderstood products of their environments who are not responsible for their actions because they never had a proper family life who choose to carry guns illegally anyway, yeah you should worry. But then, that's a different issue.
maybe I missed some post but worth adding -
do you pack at happy hour/cocktail hour/while bar hopping?
city commision meetings/political rallys/CYO dances?
I always take my gun home after my third drink. Wouldn't be prudent.
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