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Will Tuesday's election results help, hurt or have little impact on President Barack Obama's political strength?
Note: This is not a scientific poll. The results reflect only the opinions of those who chose to participate.
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4 November 2009
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beerguy (Anonymous) says…
Barack turned out to be a disappointment, just like every other political official we have. He must of got a big bride by the big insurers. Whats the point of voting anymore, its all one big scam, just like insurance.
4 November 2009
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cait48 (Anonymous) says…
This is the hope of heavily conservative Kansans but in looking at the election results those Republicans that won were moderates. It's very telling that Bill Owens (D) won the Congressional seat in upstate NY in the 23rd District after Dede Scozzafava, nominated by her own local Republican base, was forced out by her own party at the national level in favor of Doug Hoffman, a more conservative candidate who was endorsed by Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, et al.. This will be the first time in 130 years that a Democrat holds that seat and, considering the “star power” that came out and stumped for Hoffman, is a clear rejection of far right ideology.
It will be very interesting to see if this paper pays any attention to this race and its implications and what spin they'll put on it.
4 November 2009
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TJ_in_Lawrence (Anonymous) says…
Cait48 you should check your facts. The two govenors elected were not moderates…..
McDonald's college thesis gained attention in the campaign because it outlined a 15-point conservative Republican/Christian agenda, including 10 points McDonnell pursued during his years in the General Assembly, according to press analysis. This agenda includes opposition to abortion and support for school vouchers, and tax policies that favor heterosexual families. In the work, McDonnell argues for covenant marriage, a “legally distinct type of marriage intended to make it more difficult to obtain a divorce”.
Doesn' t sound very “moderate” to me.
Chris Christie in NJ. Is pro-life and has said he will veto any legislation legalizing same sex marriage. Where exactly do you see moderate in that?
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Who were the two kool-aid drinkers that though this would help Dear Leader's regime?
4 November 2009
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cait48 (Anonymous) says…
Historically the first two governor races after a presidential election have always gone to the opposite party. Those wins were pretty much expected. But even the RNC looked at the 23rd District as a bellwether, TJ. The GOP is fracturing over far right wing ideology taking over the party and I don't think even their own top dogs know how to handle it. There are a number of scenarios that could happen. The far right of the GOP could leave the party and form their own conservative party (something they really don't want to do) or moderate Republicans could leave and form their own party with Blue Dog Democrats. Either way I think there really IS a revolution coming in American politics. But despite their “tea parties” and “death panels” I don't think it will be coming from the far right Republicans. I think it will be coming from the moderates.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
The airship Hindenbama exploded last night over New Jersey. Flaming debris fell as far away as Richmond, VA. Prelimary reports assign blame to both the woefully inexperienced pilot and his crew of drunken Oompa Loompas.
4 November 2009
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honeychild (Mel Briscoe) says…
didn't we elect a democratic governor when dubya was in office? how did that hurt him?— he ended up serving 2 terms.
4 November 2009
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nbnozzy (Anonymous) says…
Bill Owens can help Obama with his votes in Congress. The newly elected Governors will help too because they will create new real jobs, lower taxes, and you know Barrack will try to take some credit for it.
Was so happy to see Corzine get the boot.
4 November 2009
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jimincountry (Anonymous) says…
It's Obama's policies that need to be scrutinized and this Pelosi and Reid congress needs to be replaced with real people from the real world outside DC. This election result may give bluedog dems the idea that their constituency is unhappy about big-brother government.
4 November 2009
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…
I doubt this is keeping President Barrack Hussein Obama awake at night. He did say time and time again that it is going to take time to change things around.
One of his half brothers has a book out claiming that the father was very abusive. Then President Obama should be glad that his mother left him when she did. This is sending a message to women who stay in abusive marriages because of the children.
Unfortunately, your children may benefit by being removed from the presence of the abusive one.
4 November 2009
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tbaker (Anonymous) says…
In 2012, Mr. Obama will replace Mr. Carter as the best contemporary example of a one-term President.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Dear Leader put his clout on the line in New Jersey & got slapped down. There's not a spin in the world that can make that into a positive.
“Then President Obama should be glad that his mother left him when she did.”
Actually Mr. O abandoned his wife and child so he could get into a better graduate school.
4 November 2009
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1029 (Anonymous) says…
I'm not seeing how two gubernatorial races say anything about people's views of Obama or the political attitude of the country in general. If anything, the congressional seat in NY should be the most surprising outcome of yesterday's elections. If republicans couldn't even hold that district…. Also, wasn't Corzine projected to lose in a landslide only a few months ago? I'm surprised that so many people still voted for him after he was supposedly such a disappointment the last few years.
People are just showing their gullibility (as well as how much they are unconsciously influenced by sensationalized “news”) if they honestly think these races will have an impact on the president's “political strength” or will be any kind of indication for what will happen in November 2010. Television has a very powerful impact on the weak mind.
4 November 2009
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MyName (Anonymous) says…
You mean other than the fact that the GOP is so irrelevant that they have to reach to off year elections to try and pick up any good news? And they can't even win in NY?
Spin like that Mr. Snap?
4 November 2009
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cait48 (Anonymous) says…
Hey snap, Rush, Sarah and Glenn put their clout on the line and they got slapped down too, in a race that was honestly a little more important in showing the lay of the political landscape. Says a lot that the GOP lost a seat they've held since U.S.Grant was in the White House.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
The Campaigner in Chief is nostalgic for the campaign he won.
“During the 10AM ET hour of America’s Newsroom on Fox News Channel, fill-in co-host Martha Maccallum told viewers what President Obama watched on election night while Democrats suffered big losses in New Jersey and Virginia: “Robert Gibbs said, well, he was actually watching, you know, the HBO special about his year-long campaign and how it all went.”
On Tuesday night the White House had worked to downplay the Democratic gubernatorial defeats by claiming the President did not watch the election returns. Apparently Gibbs thought it would look better if the commander in chief was watching a self-indulgent fawning documentary about himself. Interestingly, Obama apparently previewed the HBO special a few days earlier, as Gibbs himself explained to the blog Talking Points Memo: “White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says Obama has already seen ‘By the People’…Gibbs told TPMDC Obama’s review: ‘Thumbs up!’”
On FNC, Maccallum noted: “…we know that Michelle and the girls went to the Miley Cyrus concert last night… So he’s all alone in that big house, right? Nothing to do but sit back and watch – reminisce about the long campaign and watch HBO and the special.” The HBO documentary, ‘By the People,’ debuted on Tuesday, in commemoration of the one year anniversary of Obama’s election.”
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-dre…
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
“Says a lot that the GOP lost a seat they've held since U.S.Grant was in the White House.”
Interesting sound bite, but not very accurate.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Whoops, forgot the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York…
4 November 2009
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preebo (Anonymous) says…
“In 2012, Mr. Obama will replace Mr. Carter as the best contemporary example of a one-term President.”
…not so fast, Tbagger, I think George H. W. Bush holds that distinction. And for the record that is Mr. President.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Even the Chicago Tribune is now reporting the lies of the current regime and their running dog flunkies in Illinois.
“More than $4.7 million in federal stimulus aid so far has been funneled to schools in North Chicago, and state and federal officials say that money has saved the jobs of 473 teachers.
Problem is, the district employs only 290 teachers.
“That other number, I don't know where that came from,” said Lauri Hakanen, superintendent of North Chicago Community Unit Schools District 187.
The Obama administration last week released the first round of data designed to underpin the worthiness of its economic stimulus plan, which so far has directed $1.25 billion to Illinois schools. That money has helped save or create 14,330 school jobs in the state, the administration claimed.
But those statistics, compiled initially by the Illinois State Board of Education, appear riddled with anomalies that raise questions about their validity, according to a Tribune analysis of district-by-district stimulus spending and other state data. Many local school officials were perplexed by the stimulus data attributed to their districts.
In the official report, Wilmette Public Schools District 39 was credited with 166 jobs saved by stimulus aid. Superintendent Raymond Lechner said the number should be zero.
At Dolton-Riverdale School District 148, stimulus funds were said to have saved the equivalent of 382 full-time teaching jobs — 142 more than the district actually has.
A similar discrepancy was found in data for Kankakee School District 111, where the stimulus report logged the equivalent of 665 full-time jobs saved. “That's impossible,” a top Kankakee school official said, adding that the entire payroll — full and part time — is 600 workers.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ed…
4 November 2009
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…
snap, you are right, thanks for the correction. From what I heard of the interview on tv with his half-brother the President's father actually did him a favor by leaving.
4 November 2009
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kmat (Anonymous) says…
the more comments we see from the right wingers like this, the more it shows how scared they are that only 19% of the population now calls themselves republicans. they are a dying breed and we're having to listen to their death throes.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Last night shows the independents have shunned the party of hopenchange.
Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA-eWd…
4 November 2009
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tbaker (Anonymous) says…
Preebo - Were you aware Mr. Bush held office for two terms? Get a clue.
4 November 2009
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riverdrifter (Anonymous) says…
“He must of got a big bride by the big insurers.”
Say it ain't so. Sheeiit, who wants one of those?
4 November 2009
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nbnozzy (Anonymous) says…
kmat– I saw a poll on tv that said that 40% of people identified themselves as Republican. So we have a difference of opinion.
tbaker– I believe Preebo was referring to the elder George Bush, who did only serve 1 term as President. What Preebo doesn't understand is that you didn't say”the previous one term President”, you said: “In 2012, Mr. Obama will replace Mr. Carter as the best contemporary example of a one-term President.”
I agree with that statement. Carter was like Obama is now. Thin skinned, naive, inexperienced, inept, etc…… I still can't believe American voters put this guy in office. McCain is head and shoulders more qualified to hold the highest office in the land than BHO.
4 November 2009
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
The election results are that Nancy Pelosi picked up two more Democratic votes in the House. Don't understand how those who are on the right wing of the spectrum think this is harmful to Obama in any way.
Beyond that, the results demonstrated the political impotence of Beck, Rush, Palin, etc…. I would think that also helps the Presidnent. Perhaps one of the ususal suspects will explain how the inability these republican “leaders” to deliver political results is, in fact, detrimental to Obama.
4 November 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
Pelosi can't count on the Democrats in the House now to toe the party line.
Just a couple of reminders of Dear Leader's epic fail in NJ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipWjeI…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRbQHs…
4 November 2009
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TJ_in_Lawrence (Anonymous) says…
I don't know that the two governor races “hurt” Obama, but you cannot deny that many of his policies are very unpopular with many Americans. It seems to me that chances are the “honeymoon” is over, and Mr. Obama will now have to deliver on his promises or he will continue to fall in the polls, and eventually at the polls.
By the way Cait48… you never did address the fact that early in this thread you claimed both of these new governors were moderates, when in fact neither of them fall in the category of moderate. Was that wishful thinking, or intentional misleading? Either way, you could get a job in the pro-Obama media. You'd fit right in.
5 November 2009
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cait48 (Anonymous) says…
My apologies TJ. I was referring to Congressional races. Frankly. I'm not concerned about governorships other than our own. They have little impact on the Obama administration and I was answering the question of the poll. If you think that two states electing Republican governors is a “big deal” may I remind you we had a Democratic governor in this state for the entire Bush II administration and it didn't mean diddly in Washington. I stand by my assertion that Tuesday's election was actually a victory for moderates and a clear rejection of right wing Republicanism. So all you wing nuts happy dance all you want over NJ and VA. The 23rd District rejected you in a race that had more outside money spent on it than the campaign budgets of those running that race combined; a race that had more impact and more Republican “star power” spent on it than any other in the entire election.
And by the way, Snap, really, using Wikipedia as a source? Bur seriously, if you want to look at that table again note that every time it states other than a Republican held the seat the district had been gerrymandered. There's a lot more there than what you're seeing on the surface. You just don't want to look past it because it makes you look good and you think you got a gotcha.
5 November 2009
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grammaddy (Anonymous) says…
Governors do NOT vote in the House or the Senate.
5 November 2009
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jstthefacts (Anonymous) says…
hmmm… Exit polls from both gubernatorial races showed a majority support for obama. Real story. two jerks in two jerks out. The “mighty newt” has a real imagination to interpret otherwise.
I advocated that the entire republican party be exiled after 8 catastrophic years of the bush regime and 12 years of the pub controlled house and senate. This would fix half the problem. How silly to think obamer will fix this in his first year let alone 4 or even 8. I also advocate that the entire democratic party be on the way to the airport.
This silly argument that we should put the “american talibon” back in power over the “do very little” party makes for good television ratings doing the play by play. If all the dems and pubs were exiled, we might just be left with the people who might really have a solution. But no, we'll just keep promoting that ford is better than chevy and bud light is better than miller. jeeze
5 November 2009
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pmsharp (Anonymous) says…
cait48 can spin also!!!
5 November 2009
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tbaker (Anonymous) says…
Tuesday's elections offer a small sample of the country's mood, and “may” be a preview of the mid-term elections. If the condition of the country's many serious domestic and international problems grow worse in the next 300 days, the 2010 elections have the potential to become a republican route circa 1994.
5 November 2009
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…
“Tuesday's elections offer a small sample of the country's mood, and “may” be a preview of the mid-term elections. If the condition of the country's many serious domestic and international problems grow worse in the next 300 days, the 2010 elections have the potential to become a republican route circa 1994.”
And if they grow better, the 2010 elections have the potential for cementing a long period of Democratic majorities. Given we are currently rebounding from the deep, bush recession/depression, I'd guess that things are more likely to improve than grow worse, and, therefore, prospects for the 2010 elections look favorable for Democrats.