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City approves development agreement, tax abatement for $25M Rock Chalk Park recreation center

The proposed site plan for the Rock Chalk Park Sports Complex in northwest Lawrence.

The proposed site plan for the Rock Chalk Park Sports Complex in northwest Lawrence.

March 5, 2013

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Lawrence city commissioners gave final approval Tuesday night to a development agreement that allows the $25 million Rock Chalk recreation center project to move forward.

They also approved an ordinance that will give the larger Rock Chalk Park project, which includes privately owned athletic facilities to be used by Kansas University, a 100 percent property tax abatement for the next 10 years.

The approval came on a pair of 4-1 votes, with only city commissioner Mike Amyx dissenting.

The commission gave approval to the property tax abatement even though its key advisory board on economic development incentives failed to provide a positive recommendation for the requested abatement at an earlier meeting Tuesday.

The commissioners said they approved the project — which would include track and field, soccer and softball stadiums for Kansas University — because they felt it was important to the overall health of the community.

“I think there is a potential for the university, our largest employer, to be damaged by not moving forward with this project,” Commissioner Mike Dever said.

Tuesday’s vote puts the recreation center project — a 181,000-square-foot building with eight gyms and other amenities — on track to be put out for construction bids in late March and to have bids accepted in mid-April, although it will be up to the next City Commission to approve those bids after the April 2 election.

Tuesday night's vote also is one of the last needed for Kansas University and its private partner — Thomas Fritzel’s Bliss Sports — to begin construction on the stadium portion of the project. Both the Rock Chalk Park project and the recreation center are planned for property just north and east of the Sixth Street and South Lawrence Trafficway interchange.

The stadium projects will receive a 100 percent, 10-year tax abatement that is expected to waive about $17 million worth of property taxes over the time period.

But the city’s Public Incentives Review Committee on Tuesday afternoon could not reach an agreement on whether to recommend approval of the tax abatements. The committee deadlocked 3-3 on whether to recommend the tax abatement.

Rob Chestnut, who is a member of the Public Incentives Review Committee and a current candidate for the City Commission, raised several concerns about whether the city’s financial analysis of the project was accurate.

City commissioners, however, said it was difficult to create a traditional financial analysis for the project because it is not driven by the number of jobs it will directly create but rather by the number of visitors it may bring to the community and other indirect benefits.

Mayor Bob Schumm and Dever — who have served as the lead negotiators for the city — also both expressed concern that if the city didn’t support the Rock Chalk Park project, KU may consider building the proposed sports facilities outside of Lawrence.

“They easily could leave the community,” Schumm said. “There are other people who would love to have this, and one of them is just down the road in Wyandotte County.”

Amyx, who is up for reelection April 2 and received the highest number of votes in last week's primary, was the lone commissioner to vote against both the incentives request and the development agreement between the city and RCP LLC — an entity of KU Endowment Association — and Fritzel’s Bliss Sports.

Amyx said he believed the Rock Chalk Park project deserved more scrutiny based on the the strong private element to the development through Bliss Sports' ownership of the facilities. Bliss will lease the facilities to KU.

KU and Bliss officials have said they hope to begin construction on the Rock Chalk Park portion of the project soon. Plans call for the 2014 Kansas Relays to be held at the new track and field stadium.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 1 month ago

Is this among many recent projects that appear to be pork barrel for the real estate industry?

Lawrence might be touching on local facism???

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 1 month ago

"They also approved an ordinance that will give the larger Rock Chalk Park project, which includes privately owned athletic facilities to be used by Kansas University, a 100 percent property tax abatement for the next 10 years."

THINK! Gov Brownback and the dumb republicans are also removing tons of tax dollars from the state cookie jar which means Lawrence will be receiving less tax dollars from the state.

With both the city and state removing tax dollars from cookie jars how does the city plan to make up for the deficit?

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 1 month ago

Thevtrulynsad part of this is all five commissioners wasted a lot of time when this matter could have been resolved months ago with a bit of honesty from them.

There are more changes to come, just remember Wilbur told you so.

You see, they have had so many lies with this project, it will catch up with them.

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Liberal 1 year, 1 month ago

Why does West Lawrence not have a Library...Damn Fritzels...

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victor_lustig 1 year, 1 month ago

Folks, last night Schumm, Dever, Carter, and Cromwell directed millions of your taxpayers dollars to a private company owned by Thomas Fritzel. It wasn’t about KU at all. All the agreements between KU Endowment, KU Athletics and Fritzel where already executed months ago, READ THE AGREEMENTS. Last night was about obligating taxpayers for fees to Fritzel and his architects, no bid infrastructure cost, waving development fees and other costs all on land he controls for fifty years to subsidize building his private leasehold improvements.

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patkindle 1 year, 1 month ago

The majority of the folks that voted in the last presidential election indicated they thought the govt was smarter than them and understood their needs better than they did. The city commissioners are of the same understanding, if you don’t like it Just watch out for the drones, they are headed towards anyone that is agin them

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Nikonman 1 year, 1 month ago

I can't think of a single year since 1977 and the present when there was not a new building under construction or at least a large renovation underway at KU. So when will will the KU campus finally be "Finished?" Probably never. The next project will be to take over part or all of Clinton Lake. That should be easy; Just transfer control from Wildlife and Parks to KU. As far as the new Recreation Center is concerned, it will be interesting to see who and what businesses locate near there.

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jayhawklawrence 1 year, 1 month ago

The Lawrence city government does not appear to be able to manage their resources very efficiently and at the rate they are going, cost of living here is going to increase much faster than per capita income.

I do not see how this is going to be sustainable even though you hear people touting the term "sustainability" as if they know what it means. It is not just an environmental term. It is also an economic term.

If the city leaders believe their job is to propose projects and spend money then I think we have a big problem.

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scaramouchepart2 1 year, 1 month ago

Stain, That's Mike Amyx who voted against the KU/Biss sports center.

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Stain 1 year, 1 month ago

The CC does not represent the people of this city. I will be voting against and campaigning against all incumbents.

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optimist 1 year, 1 month ago

"City commissioners, however, said it was difficult to create a traditional financial analysis for the project because it is not driven by the number of jobs it will directly create but rather by the number of visitors it may bring to the community and other indirect benefits."

That's all fine and well but if we don't apply a specific method to measuring the value of this project to the city against the cost of the abatements then what is the criteria? Whether or not you agree with it, the city's abatement policy requires a wage floor for those that are employed by an entity receiving an abatement. I expect a lot of young people will be employed there, will they all earn at or above that wage floor? I've not heard anything about this and that's probably because most of us have heard very little about the real details of this project.

I'll say this for reference: I am neither strongly opposed nor strongly in favor of this project. I like the idea of it and expect that it will bring people to Lawrence and that Lawrence should see economic benefit from it. I am however strongly opposed to the way this project was handled by the city, the commission, KU and Bliss. Too little information has been made available to the community and policies and procedures appear as though they have been circumvented. While it is in the commission's authority to deviate from said practices it certainly exposes the city when applying any criteria to a future project and deny it, or abatements for it. Remember Walmart?

There are a number of questions as to the actual cost. While the city's exposure is limited to $25 million for the construction there is no limit to the regular costs of maintenance and upkeep on the facilities and grounds surrounding it. It is my understanding that you and I, the taxpayers that live in Lawrence now and for the next 100 years will be paying for it.

If I am correct in my understanding the commission has just committed future generations that live here, long after any of us alive today are gone, to pay for something that will probably be a run down dump a few generations from now. How is that right? Would anyone reading this agree to accept all responsibilities for a home a builder just completed for you? What confidence would you have that a builder would build the best possible structure if the builder held no liability for it whatsoever? None of us would sign that contract but from what little I've read and heard that is apparently what the city has just done.

I applaud those that stood up against rubber stamping this project with so many questions unanswered. Thanks to commissioner Amyx and advisory board member Rob Chestnut for asking the hard questions and taking the time to look at the numbers in order to see that they just don’t add up.

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billybob1 1 year, 1 month ago

What is wrong with you people? Do you want Lawrence to end up looking like Topeka? This project will create economic growth in a town that has no growth. Look at all the empty storefronts. Are your houses appreciating or are they dropping in value? Get real.

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 1 month ago

Congratulations on moving Lawrence forward. The City - KU partnership is a very good thing and I hope they do more of it in the future. If the anti-growth, anti-everything "progressives" are outraged over this, it must be a good thing. Rock Chalk!

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runbaby 1 year, 1 month ago

I feel most citizens would not oppose this new endeavor if it was put to a fair vote and all could have a voice. It's the fact that we keep getting decisions made FOR us and they seem to be beneficial to a select few. If Lawrence has this kind of money why aren't we using it to better the education of our children? Our teachers work long hours for very little pay. They are abused by children and parents and still have a desire to "make a difference". Send some of that money their way instead of sending it to the hands of those already wealthy.

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scaramouchepart2 1 year, 1 month ago

I expect many if not most on these blogs vote if you are unhappy with the way our city commissions does business get out and help the League of Women Voters in getting people to the pools. Talk to your neighbors, support candidates. I have my preference, but I think just asking people to vote their preference is the best thing you can do for Lawrence in the next few weeks. help Mr Shew get the people informed. Many of you comments are valid and many are policies, state as well as local you don't seem to understand. It is important to understand what a city commission can and can't do. If the abatement was voted down, we still would not see tax dollars on state property. The 25 million dollars for the local rec center is the same number given when the project was across the highway or even if we just had the local rec. center. There are good questions we still need to have answered, but the infrastructure has always been the responsibility of the city. The street you live on, or if you work in town, the street you work on. If you want the public to decide which projects we want to spend our tax dollars, get people to the pools. We cannot afford them all.

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Hatter8333 1 year, 1 month ago

So many negative comments I truly am in amazement. I am old enough to remember when they built Allen Field House and many similar comments were made. Why so much money? Why such a large facility? Why in the world do we need a building that would hold so many people? What would those people say today? Look at the long term people? This will be an asset this community will enjoy and profit from for years to come. The glass is not always half empty!!!

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KansasLiberal 1 year, 1 month ago

I knew that this would happen eventually, but I thought that the city commission would do it behind everyone's back, not with a middle finger to the taxpayer's faces and a kick between the legs.

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1yardstare 1 year, 1 month ago

I hope the Chamber of Commerce has a "Mulligan" clause in Carters employment contract. They must have hired him without watching him in action, I can’t believe there is a local business that would hire that guy.

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LadyJ 1 year, 1 month ago

" the university, our largest employer" who pays it's maintenance staff and regular staff barely enough to live on.

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crafty 1 year, 1 month ago

Mike -- thanks for standing up for common sense and the citizens of Lawrence!!

When is Scum up for re-election? Based upon his handling of this, he's definitely lost my vote.

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hungryhustler 1 year, 1 month ago

I can't wait to see this park! Something like this in Lawrence is long overdue. Does anyone know where I can make private donations to help speed up the construction?

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Anydaynow 1 year, 1 month ago

With so many people out of work - who is going to pay for all this STUFF that is not needed. Lining some pockets?

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msezdsit 1 year, 1 month ago

Aah. The feeling you get when going from a scam to scammed. Thank you city commissioners. You all should have to wear a red sweater with a rather large "S" on the front and back for as long as the tax payers are paying for your scam.

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To Sides 1 year, 1 month ago

Has anyone looked at "cause 6" in today's LJW legal publications?

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irvan moore 1 year, 1 month ago

good grief, wait a couple or few years and we will find out how bad they really screwed us, hopefully we can elect a new commission that will take another look and realize we are better off paying a few million in penalties than going forward with the project

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50YearResident 1 year, 1 month ago

Time to change the City form of Government. We need permanent, educated leaders, not 2 year, in and out single agenda glory seekers. Let's sign this deal quickly because my term ends in 2 months and I need something to be remembered by.

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rlsd 1 year, 1 month ago

I have never figured out exactly what this is offering the average citizen of our town in terms of encouragement or benefit to my exercise program............it appears to be all about KU and all the future sports stars this town is so full of....not.....just the law of averages.....

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distant_voice 1 year, 1 month ago

This city shuts down schools, build parking garages and drive-up windows for their library, and builds a sports complex that no one on this planet needs. I can't wait to leave here.

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skinny 1 year, 1 month ago

Merrill, Your answer is simple. The north and SE parts of towns tax base will not support such a facility. SO that is why it is being built on the west side! Duh!

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budtugly 1 year, 1 month ago

Lawrence just got Fritzled! Definition from Urban Dictionary 1. Fritzl to imprision a member of your family, normally for a period no longer than 24 years, in which you should molest them repeatedly and raise the offspring as your own. A common pastime in austria. Oh my god, simon just "fritzled" josef fritzl, what a legend!

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toe 1 year, 1 month ago

On to the next indignity. KU just bum rushed the taxpayer. Saw it coming because it is standard operating procedure. The state worker triumphs over the private work. Big deal. Goes on every day in Lawrence. Pay the taxes for the poor state supported school. Now, let us start bitching about the police station. Police are just another government worker.

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reality_check79 1 year, 1 month ago

50 million to rehab memorial stadium in 5,4,3,2......

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leftylucky 1 year, 1 month ago

Does kansas athletics still give free tickets to the city commissioners ?

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LadyJ 1 year, 1 month ago

For that much money, where's the ice rink?

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kansasdaughter 1 year, 1 month ago

The corruption involved here has convinced me to pack it up and leave this town. In the meantime, this household will not be making any big purchases in this town. I'm glad it's a sales tax, I can choose to not support this project by taking my business elsewhere.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 1 month ago

This has now turned into a personal crusade for Schumm and Dever, who when confronted with hard cold facts, come up with gems of idiocy like this--

"Mayor Bob Schumm and Dever — who have served as the lead negotiators for the city — also both expressed concern that if the city didn’t support the Rock Chalk Park project, KU may consider building the proposed sports facilities outside of Lawrence."

The narcissism of this commission is sickening.

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Matthew Herbert 1 year, 1 month ago

8.6% voter turnout. As a commissioner I wouldn't care what any of you think either.

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leftylucky 1 year, 1 month ago

This project would have smelled better if the journal world had not been so contensious. Yes Hugh Carter likes to attack anyone that has opposite opinions about projects. Way to go Hugh. Glad your leaving the city commission.

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John Yocum 1 year, 1 month ago

Meanwhile, one corner of 27th and Iowa remains empty and the old Plum Tree building is being covered with graffiti and plywood. Olive Garden couldn't get some tax breaks from our city to build there. Oh, wait. I forgot. I live on the wrong side of town!

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Pork_Ribs 1 year, 1 month ago

...Speaking of pork: Let's see...blue county in a red state. Lawrence prides itself on being liberal and/or moderate. Looks like everyone agrees this is wasteful spending. This is what you get though. You elected them. They are libs and 'moderates'. Stick with them to make you feel good in social matters...but when it comes to finances...fiscal conservatives are the only logical choices. Not Republicans in conservative clothing either.

Thanks 'blue' Lawrence. Nice work.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 1 month ago

If the city is truly concerned about the health of citizens the city could offer up a voucher for each live in property owner of interest for say $1500 to be used toward the purchase of exercise equipment.

This would cost taxpayers wayyyyyyy less money. Plus there would not be the ongoing expense of a rec center year after year after year.

A wild estimate would be $15,000,000 over time and would likely attract new people to Lawrence. This plan would absolutely demonstrate a genuine interest in the health of Lawrence citizens.

"Lawrence,Kansas the community of healthy homes courtesy of citizen tax dollars"

Of course not everybody in town will apply just as not everybody will use the high dollar rec center.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 1 month ago

Think pork barrel for the vocal and pushy housing industry all of which makes their projects worth a little more money..... and they know this.

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Steve Jacob 1 year, 1 month ago

Next up after Lawrence approves the school bond is a $40 million police center and a $80 million water plant.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 1 month ago

The plan leaves North Lawrence and Southeast Lawrence without a rec center. Both have had a major influx of population and still growing.

WE taxpayers know this field house scenario will cost we taxpayers more than $31 million after all infrastructure is installed etc etc etc. Traffic Lights/water lines etc etc do get expensive.

Considering the total cost will be more than 31 million no matter how the picture is painted why not build a neighborhood rec center in NW Lawrence with 3 gyms, North Lawrence with two gyms, and Southeast Lawrence with 2 gyms ? This is surely going to come up. Spend an estimated $11 million on each each facility.

Schedule local athletic events accordingly.

Jumping in a car to drive across town is simply not practical thinking. 29 cents a gallon gasoline went bye bye some time ago. A ton of people in Lawrence do not bring home $60,000 or more in wages such that many of the most vocal promoters do and some are on our tax dollar payroll.

In fact it still seems to me this1994 sales tax money was to provide"neighborhood" centers and such not field houses.

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Bob Forer 1 year, 1 month ago

Okay, you sheep of Lawrence, listen, and then repeat twenty times:

'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 1 month ago

If KU is the largest employer, arrest them for the biggest swindle yet.

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oneeye_wilbur 1 year, 1 month ago

My friends have monkeys flying out of their butts and the are hitching a ride out of town !

Told you, the 3 - 3 vote was convenient!

If KU is the arrest employer, maybe they could pay property taxes.

The PRIC committee needs to go. It serves no purpose other than for obit material of the PRIC. Members.

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Bob Forer 1 year, 1 month ago

"The commissioners said they approved the project — which would include track and field, soccer and softball stadiums for Kansas University — because they felt it was important to the overall health of the community"

Okay, so at first the commissioners were salivating over Rock Chalk Park because it was such a great financial opportunity and thus an "offer they couldn't refuse." Months have passed, a lot of information has been revealed publicly, and now its very apparent that it's not a great financial deal after all. So instead of taking pause and exclaiming, "whoops, we may be mistaken," they simply invent a new rationalization for their "yes" votes. "It's for all of you--my good citizens. We care about your health."

“I think there is a potential for the university, our largest employer, to be damaged by not moving forward with this project,” Commissioner Mike Dever said. Another new concern, with absolutely no explanation as to how KU might be damaged, other than the fact that a no vote would prevent KU and Fritzel from getting into the pockets of the Lawrence taxpayers.

''City commissioners, however, said it was difficult to create a traditional financial analysis for the project because it is not driven by the number of jobs it will directly create but rather by the number of visitors it may bring to the community and other indirect benefits"

Absolute nonsense. "Traditional" financial analysis is not limited to job creation. There is nothing unusual or difficult about calculating financial impact to a community based on estimates of the number of outside visitors an event will draw, etc. YOu have x amount of events, each drawing x amount of people and staying for x amount of days. Each day they spend an estimated x amount of money in town.

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Lawrence Morgan 1 year, 1 month ago

Thank you so much for that posting, JerryLHarper!

I can't believe the city commission has done this.

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arch007bak 1 year, 1 month ago

What a load of bull Schumm. KU would put their part of this in Wyandotte Co.?

People on here have commented that KU needs their part of this to stay in good standings with the Big XII when it comes to outdoor sporting venues other than football and baseball. Most also seem to agree that KU needs to get the track out of Memorial Stadium. How do you think the Big XII would react to KU putting this so far away from the main campus? Maybe other major universities have done something like that but I'd guess not. IMO, KU would never consider such a thing.

I'm not saying I don't support the idea of this overall but I'd guess your support has next to nothing to do with that concern.

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JerryLHarper 1 year, 1 month ago

                                                          And Another Ten To Know
  1. Did you know that hosting that many events will make it almost impossible for Lawrence residents to use the facilities on any weekends and many weekdays?

  2. Did you know that, when KU hosts events, e.g. track meets, and when Fritzel’s Bliss Foundation hosts events, it will be almost impossible for Lawrence residents to use the 'recreation' center?

  3. Did you know that Lawrence will have to compete for tournaments with nearby Johnson County, which already has two large, multi-court facilities, (and a third on the way), and with the developers of the Legends shopping area in Wyandotte County, who are building a 14-basketball-court facility in Wichita?

  4. Did you know that, if the feasibility study is wrong (and it most assuredly is), Lawrence taxpayers will have to pick up all operating costs (estimated at $1,000,000?

  5. Did you know that the new, so-called ‘competitive-bidding’ requirement for the ‘recreation’ center doesn’t save Lawrence a single penny because the city pays $25-million to the Endowment Assn./KU Athletics no matter what the bid (unless – fat chance – the bids on the center and on the infrastructure come in far, far below projections)?

  6. Did you know that any savings on the recreation center simply increase by an equal amount the proportion of the infrastructure costs that the City must pay?

  7. Did you know that not one dime of economic development money or hotel/motel tax money -will be used to pay for the proposed ‘recreation’ center or any shortfall in operating expenses – even though its gargantuan size was originally justified on economic development and tourism grounds and its avowed purpose is to put ‘heads in beds?’

  8. Did you know you that you can build the same recreation center – but with 3 or 4 courts – and add an additional court to Holcom and to East Lawrence (giving you a total of 9 or 10 full size city courts) located to serve all areas of the city far more conveniently and for less money than the proposed ‘recreation’ center?

  9. Did you know that the 1994 vote for a 1-cent sales tax for health & recreation facilities said absolutely nothing about using that money for economic development or to put more “heads in beds” for the hotel/motel industry?

  10. Did you know that historically major-local-capital-improvement projects have been voted upon by the public? E.g.:

    • Douglas County Courthouse – 1899
    • Library – 1903, 1970, 2010
    • City Hall – c. 1977
    • Bus tax – 2008
    • School bonds – 2013 (and many times before)
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JerryLHarper 1 year, 1 month ago

                                                          Ten More Things To Know
  1. Did you know that the NRPA distance-to-basketball-court ‘standards’ call for them to be located within1/4-1/2 mile of the potential users? See standards above

  2. Did you know that building the proposed ‘recreation’ center would locate over 70% of the city’s indoor recreation facilities in the far NW reaches of the city –miles from most of the population?

  3. Did you know that it would take at least 20 minutes to get from the SE corner of Lawrence to the proposed ‘recreation’ center (over 9 miles)?

  4. Did you know that the proposed ‘recreation’ center will actually be closer in time (14 minutes) and distance (8 miles) to Lecompton than it is to residents in the SE part of Lawrence?

  5. Did you know that the proposed ‘recreation’ center would be a staggering 9 times larger than any one of the other three city recreation center?

  6. Did you know that Lawrence actually has 3 times as many city-owned gyms as other cities in the 80,000-100,000 population category nationwide according to NRPA data?

  7. Did you know that nationwide cities in the 80,000-100,000 population range have a median size recreation center of 25,000 square feet and those with larger center only average 39,000 square feet according to NRPA data (and Lawrence proposed to build a 181,000 sq. ft. facility)?

  8. Did you know that the $25,000 “feasibility study” supporting the ‘recreation’ center was premised on the city working in partnership with KU Athletics and Bill Self’s Foundation to promote it as a site for basketball tournaments in order to succeed – even though that is specifically prohibited by the NCAA? “It is our understanding that the City of Lawrence is contemplating a public-private partnership to develop a youth sports complex with potential partners including the City, the University of Kansas, the Assist Foundation (Bill and Cindy Self) and others.”

  9. Did you know that the firm making the feasibility study stated that the City should not rely upon its projections? “Because procedures were limited, we express no opinion or assurances of any kind on the achievability of any projected information contained herein and this report should not be relied upon for that purpose.”

  10. Did you know that the feasibility study projections assumed that the proposed ‘recreation’ facility would host 50 tournaments, clinics and camps each year – more than one every weekend excluding holidays?

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JerryLHarper 1 year, 1 month ago

       Ten Things To Know About the 181,00 Square Foot ‘Recreation’ Center
  1. Did you know that the National Parks and Recreation Association (NRPA) ‘standards’ for a city of 90,000s calls for only 18 basketball courts? (1 per 5,000 population located within 1/4-1/2 mile)

  2. Did you know that proponents erroneously claimed over and over again that these very same standards showed Lawrence to have a shortfall of 18-20 basketball courts (and continued to do so right up until the moment Chad Lawhorn’s story in the Journal-World debunked that tale)?

  3. Did you know that the NRPA ‘standards’ provide for inclusion of school gyms in determining the number of available basketball courts?

  4. Did you know that Lawrence, like many cities, has an agreement with the school district to use its gymnasiums for recreational purposes in order to “maximize facility use and programming?”

  5. Did you know that the city only uses 3 or 4 school district courts even though there are at least 25 school district courts -- all of which could be used at various times?

  6. Did you know that Lawrence presently has over 40 indoor basketball courts and over 10 outdoor basketball courts either available to the public now or available with a little cooperation – almost three times the National ‘standard’?

  7. Did you know that the indoor recreation needs of over 25% of Lawrence population (KU students and faculty) are already served by the Ambler Recreation Center and Robinson Center with their 4 full-size basketball courts (8 practice courts) and many other accoutrements? http://www.recreation.ku.edu/~recserv/facilities/srfc.shtml

  8. Did you know that most city-run basketball programs in this region have 6 or 7 game seasons, just like Lawrence? (And some Lawrence leagues have a 6-game fall and 6-game winter season, and some a 6-game spring season)?

  9. Did you know that not all of the basketball leagues in Lawrence filled up this year?

  10. Did you know that by making better use of the 40+ basketball courts in the city, you could accommodate longer league seasons without building a single new court?

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