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Transit service a success

K-10 Connector system sets records in January, February

Joe Fitzsimmons climbs aboard a Johnson County Transit K-10 Connector bus last week at the intersection of 19th Street and Naismith Drive. Ridership on the bus service between Lawrence and Johnson County set records in January and February.

Joe Fitzsimmons climbs aboard a Johnson County Transit K-10 Connector bus last week at the intersection of 19th Street and Naismith Drive. Ridership on the bus service between Lawrence and Johnson County set records in January and February.

February 18, 2008

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Ridership on the shuttle service between Lawrence and Johnson County continues to climb.

Johnson County Transit's K-10 Connector bus system set new records during January and February, reflecting an increased interest in the area's public transit.

"It has been a great service, and we're having much success with it," said Alice Amrein, transportation director for Johnson County Transit.

The Kansas Highway 10 bus service began in January 2007 and, in less than a month, was serving about 225 riders daily. This year, there have been days that more than 600 people board the shuttle. On an average day, 250 to 300 riders get on the K-10 Connector, Amrein said.

Kansas University helps serve these riders with two bus stops in Lawrence: one at the Park and Ride parking lot at Clinton Parkway and Crestline Drive, and the other south of campus at 19th Street and Naismith Drive.

Danny Kaiser, assistant director of parking and transit, estimated that 200 of the daily 1,800 Park and Ride bus passengers came from the K-10 service. Most of them will then use the Park and Ride express into the main campus.

Caleb Quaye, a regular rider on the Connector, lives in Lawrence but commutes to classes at Johnson County Community College.

He's studying pharmacy and wants to transfer college credits to KU.

"It's cheaper that way," he said.

Originally from Accra, Ghana, Quaye said the bus system was "way better" than the buses from his homeland.

His only challenge is waking up early enough to catch the 7:40 a.m. bus at 19th and Naismith. The service's peak use times occur in the early morning and evening, with some rides offering standing room only.

Any ideas for further improvement?

"They could always put computers on the bus," Quaye said with a smile. "No, I'm kidding."

Johnson County Transit, however, is taking such suggestions seriously. The organization is considering a pilot project to install not computers, but the next best option - a wireless Internet connection.

Amrein said Johnson County Transit sends e-mail service updates to K-10 riders. If people wish to be included on the list, they can e-mail Cris Gault at cris.gault@jocogov.org.

Comments

misseve 6 years, 2 months ago

was_freashpowder (Anonymous) says:

Does this go to Eudora As well ??

as of now it only stops at the KU park and ride, and Haskell then goes to Johnson County Community College... I would be nice to have stops in Eudora and Desoto... i would use it instead of driving...

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gl0ck0wnr 6 years, 2 months ago

"JackRipper (Anonymous) says:And you'll be providing the cost analysis for using cars? Including the costs for the cars, insurance, etc. and don't forget the cost of the accidents from those who are a little to busy to be driving or in too big of a hurry."

No. I would assume if one is judging the relative merits of a transportation system that one studying said transportation system would include those numbers as part of a cost/benefit analysis. For example, from what I can tell from the available numbers, a one way trip on the T costs approximately $5 to $7 to the taxpayer. I seriously doubt a one way trip in a car to anywhere in Lawrence from any point in Lawrence averages that cost.

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solsken66 6 years, 2 months ago

Alice Amrein please consider expanding this transit service along this corridor to Lawrence for the working population with an earlier schedule. Transit service would be welcome between Lawrence and Topeka.

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was_freashpowder 6 years, 2 months ago

Does this go to Eudora As well ??

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Bowhunter99 6 years, 2 months ago

Merrill... I don't think any of us will be alive to witness such 'benefits of public transportation'...

I'm sure of one thing... we will witness the mT being put to rest....

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JackRipper 6 years, 2 months ago

If the routing is expanded and run longer one could consider getting rid of their car which is costing many times more a year then any bus fee.

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johnwoods 6 years, 2 months ago

Will a merger of the two systems, T and KU, work? Are citizens willing to pay what KU students do for a bus system? How much does the T cost each taxpayer now?

I'm all for public transportation but each KU student (the entire population, not riders) pays $72 a year to keep the system operating. Fares are not included in that figure.

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macon47 6 years, 2 months ago

oh sure, thats where i wanna be, riding on a bus with some diz chatting on a cellphone , engaged in one of those meaningful conversations we all love to hear.

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JackRipper 6 years, 2 months ago

Right here. Anything can be called a success with such a lopsided analysis. Where is the cost analysis? It's impossible to judge the system with the information in this article much less call it a success.<<

And you'll be providing the cost analysis for using cars? Including the costs for the cars, insurance, etc. and don't forget the cost of the accidents from those who are a little to busy to be driving or in too big of a hurry. The bus makes a wonderful platform in which to get somewhere and also talk on the cellphone.

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paavopetie 6 years, 2 months ago

How about running KU fans into the field house during game days?

I say merge The T and KU and make it work for all concerned.


two excellent ideas. do you think anybody reads the lte comments? these are the heart of democracy.

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gl0ck0wnr 6 years, 2 months ago

"Reality_Check (Anonymous) says:Now where are the naysayers on this board:you know, the public transit haters:who said this would never work? Kind of quiet today, hmmmmm?"

Right here. Anything can be called a success with such a lopsided analysis. Where is the cost analysis? It's impossible to judge the system with the information in this article much less call it a success. Money quote from the article:

"Originally from Accra, Ghana, Quaye said the bus system was "way better" than the buses from his homeland."

Wow. Way better than Ghana?

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Stain 6 years, 2 months ago

The bus is a vital service that contributes to the economy and it should stay. Maybe the routes should be tweaked.

When the city commission brings out their hatchet, I wonder why they never mention the Lawrence Arts Center? Could it be because one of their developer buddies lobbied hard to build that expensive building and they cannot touch that live grenade?

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shoffner 6 years, 2 months ago

Ripper:

There aren't racks on the KU busses because of competition. The Wheels Dept. decided that instead of everyone fighting/not being able to use it anyway it was just better not to have.

I agree, merge and make real, connecting routes to/from places the general Lawrence, KS public needs the most. I've thought of working up a proposed master route/schedule, since no one that actually works for the city must be able to.

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solsken66 6 years, 2 months ago

Topeka has a very nice and convenient bus station downtown that would be ideal for commuter service between Topeka and Lawrence. A bus station would be needed in Lawrence.

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solsken66 6 years, 2 months ago

Commuter Bus Service between Lawrence and Topeka would be great.

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Norma Jeane Baker 6 years, 2 months ago

If the K-10 Connector started an hour earlier, or even a half hour earlier, I'd be able to use it. JCCC is less than two miles from my office and I could use my bike for the remaining distance. But as of now, I'll continue my drive each day.

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nobody1793 6 years, 2 months ago

"Originally from Accra, Ghana, Quaye said the bus system was "way better" than the buses from his homeland."

Isn't that really the point. Lawrence is still better than at least one third-world country. Take That Ghana!

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JackRipper 6 years, 2 months ago

Shoffner I agree, why couldn't the T have just expanded the KU bus system route because it always was a pretty decent routing system. Merge them and make it a practical system for all.

Why aren't there bike racks on the KU buses?

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 2 months ago

"snoopy_79 (Anonymous) says:

Has anyone heard whether they plan to make stops in Eudora or DeSoto?"

Apparently,according to LJW news, the issue is being discussed as we speak.

======== Sooner or later this part of the USA will need to realize the benefits of public transportation. So long as tax dollars subsidize airlines,trains and local bus service why not make use of it during the peak time 7AM- 6:30 PM... or walk and bike.

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shoffner 6 years, 2 months ago

I can say from experience (I ride T/Th mornings to/from JCCC and back) that this bus is packed to standing room only every single morning I go (6:30) and with maybe 1-2 (out of a ton) open seats coming back (12:30). Awesome money/pollution saver.

The T sucks frankly because its route schedules are crap. No bus drop is coordinated worth a damn with bus pick-ups. Connections are the main problem. Why in the hell would I ever pay to use that "T" when I can literally get to anywhere (I have tested/timed/tried multiple routes) in town faster on my bike, in any weather. If I did catch the T from Campus where I work, I'd have to wait for 20-30 minutes down town until the north lawrence bus came. It is that way for every route all day...stupid.

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 2 months ago

Notice how much new roads and maintenance cost just to keep other vehicles on the road. Way more than parking cars and riding the bus. $200 million for a bypass plus maintenance year after year after year after year.... Lawrence would be better off with lots and lots of empty cars between 7AM and 6:30PM Monday thru Friday.

About the T http://www.lawrencetransit.org/about.shtml

"posessionannex (Anonymous) says:

"Government funded programs will always be declared successes by the users."

Such as: http://www.google.com/search?q=bailing+wall+street&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a http://www.google.com/search?q=bailing+out+airline+industry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a http://www.google.com/search?q=bailing+out+USA+auto+industry&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I say merge The T and KU and make it work for all concerned.

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Dollypawpaw 6 years, 2 months ago

They are thinking of adding WiFi.

How about adding flat screens, DIRECTV, and a wet bar?

How about running KU fans into the field house during game days?

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Chad Collins 6 years, 2 months ago

Has anyone heard whether they plan to make stops in Eudora or DeSoto?

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americorps 6 years, 2 months ago

There simply is no transportation without subsidies. Public transportation will always be subsidised, big corporate transportation like Airline, Bus and Rail has always been subsidised. Highways and streets are government funded, heck even sidewalks require tax based infrastructure.

whining...government subsidies is simply whining, Clearly you have nothing significant to say.

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blue73harley 6 years, 2 months ago

"His only challenge is waking up early enough to catch the 7:40 a.m. bus..."

Oh, poor baby. Tell me when we get a bus that starts at about 5:30 am. That is when I need to leave on my commute to Olathe.

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JackRipper 6 years, 2 months ago

It's funny when the people who supposedly are all free market and no government involvement have their preferred modes of transit exposed as big if not bigger subsidy projects that they can only try to laugh it off. Government involvement has been a problem that has clouded the transportations issues.

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lounger 6 years, 2 months ago

It would be a total success if it ran on Biodeisel!!!!

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posessionannex 6 years, 2 months ago

Are you talking about "air" like what the T hauls around town?

OUCH!

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Dollypawpaw 6 years, 2 months ago

Jack.

"Don't you know that the government is already heavily subsidizing air?"

Are you talking about "air" like what the T hauls around town?

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posessionannex 6 years, 2 months ago

Don't you know that the government is already heavily subsidizing air?

Apparently, not very successfully. To achieve "success" (100% full aircraft) dolly's suggestion makes sense. Of course, there may be a waiting list.

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JackRipper 6 years, 2 months ago

Dollypawpaw (Anonymous) says: Why doesn't the government run a mass transit airline service? 50 cents from LA to NY seems reasonable. That would be great for all!

Don't you know that the government is already heavily subsidizing air?

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Dollypawpaw 6 years, 2 months ago

Why doesn't the government run a mass transit airline service?

50 cents from LA to NY seems reasonable.

That would be great for all!

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Fred Whitehead Jr. 6 years, 2 months ago

It is good to see a well-utilized and planned public transit service. As for the Lawrence "T", it is still the "M-T" bus company, regardless of how many padded and exagerated ridership figures the bus company publishes. Does anyone ever audit those figures? I simply do not believe them, in view of the many, many nearly or completely empty busses I see daily roaming the city, burning up expensive fuel daily.

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JackRipper 6 years, 2 months ago

posessionannex (Anonymous) says: Government funded programs will always be declared successes by the users.

Yeah, I hear that all the time by people who support more government funded highway programs.

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doc1 6 years, 2 months ago

Reality. We are still here and yes, The T is still a failure by far. This wonderful example is good news, however has nothing to do with the T and it's "read headed stepchild" of an existance.

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posessionannex 6 years, 2 months ago

Government funded programs will always be declared successes by the users.

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Alia Ahmed 6 years, 2 months ago

I rode it from the Edwards campus to the Lawrence campus one day, it worked well. Lots of folks studying on the trip over, some of us sleeping.

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misseve 6 years, 2 months ago

i would use it if they stopped in Desoto where i work... they are running when i go to work at 11pm and they are running when i get off at 7am....

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jrlii 6 years, 2 months ago

Further testimony that KU, at least for lower division undergraduate courses, is overpriced.

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Reality_Check 6 years, 2 months ago

Now where are the naysayers on this board...you know, the public transit haters...who said this would never work? Kind of quiet today, hmmmmm?

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Dollypawpaw 6 years, 2 months ago

Make the bar low enough and anything can be declared a success.

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OnlyTheOne 6 years, 2 months ago

Well, it's a start on a working public transit system in the area.

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Richard Heckler 6 years, 2 months ago

Our son has decided that doing this commuter to JCCC is his most practical option for many reasons not the least being dollars and sense not to mention the environment.

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