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Tiller abortion battle continues today
April 8, 2008
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Topeka The ongoing legal fight by activists against abortion provider Dr. George Tiller will bring a small army of attorneys today to the Kansas Supreme Court.
Tiller, medical director of Women’s Health Care Services of Wichita, is trying to stop grand jury subpoenas for records of approximately 2,000 women who received services at his clinic.
Anti-abortion groups allege that Tiller has been violating state restrictions on late-term abortions. Tiller denies any wrongdoing.
Under Kansas law, abortions of viable fetuses are prohibited after the 22nd week of pregnancy unless necessary to save the mother’s life or prevent severe harm to the woman’s physical or mental health.
Through a petition drive process available only in Kansas and five other states, anti-abortion groups were able to convene a grand jury in Wichita to investigate their accusations.
That panel has ordered Tiller to provide the medical records of patients who sought late-term abortions between July 1, 2003, and Jan. 18, 2008.
The state Supreme Court will hear arguments on whether Tiller must provide the subpoenas.
The hearing starts at 9 a.m. and is scheduled to go to 11 a.m. The court has consolidated separate challenges to the subpoenas by Attorney General Stephen Six, Tiller’s clinic and patients of the clinic.
Patients argue for privacy
The patients, using pseudonyms to protect their identity, argue that the subpoenas represent an unconstitutional intrusion into their privacy, and that the grand jury isn’t entitled to the records because there has been no finding that the documents contain evidence of a crime.
The records contain detailed medical information, including physical and mental health histories, of women who terminated their pregnancies, sometimes under tragic circumstances, attorneys representing the patients argued.
In some instances, the patient had an abortion after learning of a severe fetal anomaly, and the medical records often include photographs of the fetus taken after the abortion, they said.
“These photographs ... may also include pictures of the fetus with baby clothes, stuffed animals or blankets that the parents had hoped to give their child.
“To have these personal histories paraded out before the members of the grand jury for their scrutiny and judgment is not only a gross intrusion on the patients’ privacy, it is cruel,” stated attorney Jim Lawing.
One woman accuses Tiller
But anti-abortion groups say the subpoenas are lawful.
They say the medical records can be shown to a grand jury without revealing the patients’ identification under standards set out by the Kansas Supreme Court in a 2006 ruling when then-Attorney General Phill Kline was seeking medical records from Tiller’s clinic. Kline eventually filed 30 counts of alleged violations of the late-term abortion law against Tiller, but the charges were dismissed on the grounds that Kline didn’t have jurisdictional authority in the case.
Since then, the state has filed 19 misdemeanor charges against Tiller, alleging that Tiller failed to obtain a second opinion on late-term abortions in 2003 from an independent physician, as required by law. That case is pending.
Anti-abortion groups, such as Kansans for Life, claim there are valid allegations of improper abortions, pointing to a sworn statement from Michelle Armesto-Berge, who in 2003 at the age of 18 had a late-term abortion.
“At no time before the baby was injected with the drug that killed him did any doctor or other medical staff in Dr. Tiller’s clinic ask me about my health or why I was having an abortion,” she said in a sworn statement. At a news conference Monday, she said Tiller’s records indicated her fetus was “nonviable,” thus avoiding the legal requirement to see a second doctor. Armesto-Berge said there was no indication prior to the abortion that there was anything wrong with the fetus.
“She is the poster child for why the records have to be reviewed,” said Kathy Ostrowski, who lobbies for Kansans for Life.
But attorneys for Tiller said in a legal brief, “Ms. Armesto’s medical record (which she submitted to this court) contains no evidence of any crime.”
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8 April 2008 at 7:47 a.m.
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bondmen (Anonymous) says…
Soon we'll learn if the Kansas Supreme Court is committed to upholding the law designed to protect the most vulnerable and innocent among us. If they fail in their responsibility to the people then we all will know this is not a state of laws but of men and to the strongest and most ruthless goes the spoils. Will the Supreme Court take us into the jungle or leads us out of it?
9 April 2008 at 11:02 a.m.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
Yeah, Conservativeman… LJW is a real “joke”… and it's the joke that obviously keeps you laughing time and time again.
You hate it so much you keep coming back over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!!!
roflamo!!!!
Laughing *at* you… not with you!
You're outed, “Mr_Values!” :p
9 April 2008 at 11:20 a.m.
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Marion Lynn (Marion Lynn) says…
You can watch the count here as babies across the world die from “choice”:
http://www.poodwaddle.com/clocks16.htm
So far this year, over double the number of The Six Million killed in the Holocaust have been murdered in abortion mills world wide.
9 April 2008 at 11:38 a.m.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
And again, Marion with his Nazi-Holocaust-fetus fetish!!
It's become quite the great sport to watch you implode! :)
—Ag
P.S. A more “intelligent” post on this topic will be coming later, I promise!
9 April 2008 at 11:45 a.m.
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grimpeur (Anonymous) says…
Red_Peters (Anonymous) says…
“Anti-abortion groups allege…”
“….anti-abortion groups….”
“But anti-abortion groups say …..”
“Anti-abortion groups, such as Kansans for Life…”
Yeah, they forgot to add, “terrorist organization” before Kansans for Life and Operation Rescue.
9 April 2008 at 11:58 a.m.
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bunnyhawk (Anonymous) says…
A few of us are old enough to remember when daughters, sisters, and mothers died from back-alley abortionists.
What kind of monster, in the name of religion, would seek to prevent a rape or incest victim from terminating a pregnancy resulting from her vicitimization?? What kind of monster feels he/she is entitled to sit in judgment on the judgments of individual women about their reproductive lives?????
Imagine the outcry if we were to subpoena viagra prescriptions to identify potential geriatric rapists!
9 April 2008 at 4:59 p.m.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
No time for a lengthy post, but let me pose a question for the group:
The women referenced above, the ones that appeared before the grand jury under pseudonyms… why should their personal information be revealed?
Like it or not, abortion is a **legal** procedure.
Legally… the women have committed no crime.
There is no warrant out for their arrest.
Why wouldn't redacted records be good enough for the purposes above?