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Jayhawk fans seeing Orange
Agencies set up ticket packages for travelers
Kansas University senior defensive lineman James McClinton, of Garland, Texas, raises his orange in recognition to the Jayhawks' receiving an Orange Bowl bid at during a press conference Hadl Auditorium in this file photo. McClinton bit into the orange, saying that was his reaction to learning they got an Orange Bowl bid. It is the first time in KU history that the football team has been selected to participate in a Bowl Championship Series game.
December 3, 2007
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Hey, Mizzou ... how's that No. 1 ranking?
Oh wait. The University of Missouri football team ended the season ranked sixth in the Bowl Championship Series, one spot ahead of Kansas University's team.
And the Tigers didn't even get a BCS bid.
It's sweet redemption for the BCS-bound Jayhawks, as they accepted a bid to play in the Orange Bowl on Sunday, while their archrivals in Columbia are stuck playing in the non-BCS Cotton Bowl.
Even before KU agreed to play Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl on Jan. 3, travel agencies in Lawrence and around the country were preparing for the onslaught of Jayhawk fans looking to make their way to destinations, until last night, unknown.
Walt Houk, president of Travellers Inc., 831 Mass., said KU fans started inquiring about bowl travel packages a month ago. He said his company was busy Sunday night wrapping up package plans with airlines and hotels in Miami.
"We don't have all that finalized yet, but we will have three- and probably four-night packages to Miami," which will include airfare and hotel accommodations, as well as tickets to the game, Houk said. He said former KU football star Gale Sayers and former KU football coach Don Fambrough will act as hosts for the tour.
Houk said arrangements should be finalized late Sunday night. Fans can find information on the packages at Travellers' Web site, www.travellers.vacation.com. He declined to speculate on pricing but said information will be available by 10 a.m. today.
Ken Bruce, executive vice president of Dodds Athletic Tours in Champaign, Ill., said he expected a busy day today as thousands of college football fans nationwide flock to his company's Web site to reserve trips to their bowl destinations.
"Everybody and their brother is calling Monday morning," Bruce said. He urged fans to be patient.
"Keep trying. We're not going to run out Monday morning. Online's the way to go," he said, directing fans to a KU-specific Web site, www.doddsathletictours.com/ kansas.
Bruce said his company will offer packages that include airfare from Kansas City, hotel accommodations, tickets to the game and souvenirs, such as the official Orange Bowl patch worn by KU players. Dodds Athletic Tours will also offer packages sans airfare for fans who choose to arrive on their own.
He estimated air packages would average about $1,600 per person and land packages would cost about $850 per person.
Bruce said all the tickets his company provided came from the KU ticket block; he thought about 16,000 tickets would be allocated to the KU ticket office.
Associate Athletics Director Jim Marchiony said the bowl game has been a hot ticket for several weeks.
"We've already sent out feelers to our Williams Fund members, and so there are several thousand tickets that are already spoken for," he said. "We have also reserved 3,000 tickets for our students. We are giving them discounted tickets."
Marchiony said student tickets could cost around $50. Ticketmaster listed prices ranging from $110 to $210 on its Web site. Marchiony said the best way to reserve tickets is by calling the KU ticket office at (800) 34-HAWKS. But fans should pick up the phone soon.
"We've been active on this for the last couple of weeks, so people have already started acting early," he said. "But if fans want tickets, the should contact the ticket office early next week."
The push for tickets means there will be plenty of Jayhawks descending upon Miami.
"They should be ready to have a lot of fun and see some great football," Marchiony said.
Ashlee Brosh, of Fairway, a 2004 KU graduate, already was trying to book a flight online Sunday night. She said she planned on making the trip, no matter which bowl the team played in. She was happy with an Orange Bowl bid.
"I was surprised, obviously, in a good way," she said. "I know it upset a lot of Missouri fans, so that's always an added bonus."
Fan support is an added bonus for the players on the field, too.
"I thank the Lord for the fans that will go down to Miami," defensive end James McClinton said. "We've had good fan support this year. It's the best since I've been here."
But Bruce, of Dodds Athletic Tours, said Virginia Tech will represent as well.
"Virginia Tech fans are known for traveling," he said. "I hope KU will show them."
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jonas (Anonymous) says…
Ahh, the sweet and sour taste of spite!
The first couple paragraphs of this article strike me as rather unprofessional. I can forgive a fan for dabbling in “neener neener” arguments, but from a newspaper it seems somewhat absurd.
3 December 2007
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avaholic (Anonymous) says…
Do we really need to antagonize Mizzou?
I'm sure I'll get blasted for this but the way this article starts seems a little “classless”. If MU had an article that started this way, after we just got left out of a BCS game, Jayhawk fans would be saying the same thing. Let's not get a big head here. MU did just beat us and went to the Big 12 title game. I know that many of you will say that they would do the same thing and you're most likely right, but that doesn't mean we need to sink to that level. Let's be the bigger “person” and wish them luck in their game.
3 December 2007
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avaholic (Anonymous) says…
I agree jonas
3 December 2007
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
To the victor goes the spoils……
and sometimes not.
3 December 2007
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DoNotKeepScore (Anonymous) says…
Orange Bowl! Gale Sayers! Coach Fambrough! awesome!!!!!!
3 December 2007
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nomansland (Anonymous) says…
After all the nasty things Mizzou fans do to antagonize us with their “Quantrill's Raid” shirts and other childish acts, them not getting a BCS bid even if they were ranked higher is sweet revenge for us. Sucks to be them.
3 December 2007
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458casul (Anonymous) says…
here kitty kitty kitty suck your milk all gone and we might let you watch the orange bowl with your kitty friends
3 December 2007
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458casul (Anonymous) says…
yes we do need to trash talk them,,,,GO KU,,,,,,
3 December 2007
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avaholic (Anonymous) says…
ridiculous!!
3 December 2007
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…
BCS playoff
3 December 2007
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saxplayer24 (Anonymous) says…
Oh come on, the LJWorld not practicing the best journalism? That's like implying the University Daily Kansan doesn't always get their facts straight about the meaningless stories they run…come on, you have GOT to be pulling my leg. Not.
3 December 2007
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“The first couple paragraphs of this article strike me as rather unprofessional.” Jonas.
Yep. I'd expect it out of the UDK and well, actually I expect it out of the LJW as well.
3 December 2007
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tjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
I too found Mr. Parker's comments to be unnecessary. The article isn't even about football. Why do we need to beat somebody when they are down? The argument of, “they do it so why shouldn't we” is childish. I enjoy college football as much as the next guy, but come on people let's keep it in perspective.
3 December 2007
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sourpuss (Anonymous) says…
I'm a huge Jayhawk fan (third generation Jay at that) but I do feel bad about Missouri. They worked really hard, they had a great season, and they even had to play an extra game. In theory, they are the second-best team in the conference, and they are the best in the north, so I have to admit that the BCS doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled for KU. I just would have liked to see Missouri get a BCS bowl too. After all, shouldn't we all WANT the Big 12 to be a powerhouse conference so this OSU crap can't keep happening? (OH, they have such a great conference, that counts for so much). We should want as many Big 12 teams in the BCS bowls as possible. Sorry Mizzou, I find your fans crude and I hate driving through your state, but you did sorta get the short end on this one…
3 December 2007
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“We should want as many Big 12 teams in the BCS bowls as possible.”
And that happened. 2 is the max.
3 December 2007
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hawkballs (Anonymous) says…
Alexander Parker has written the most childish article I've ever read. I hope the LJW will limit his future contributions to their publication.
3 December 2007
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MM_Jayhawker (Anonymous) says…
I am sorry, it is cheap, and yet I could not resist.
Orange Bowl Selection Committee: Knock, Knock!
Jayhawk Nation: Who's there?
Orange Bowl Selection Committee: Mizzou.
Jayhawk Nation: Mizzou, who?
Orange Bowl Selection Committee: Knock, Knock!
Jayhawk Nation: Who's there?
Orange Bowl Selection Committee: Mizzou.
Jayhawk Nation: Mizzou, who?
Orange Bowl Selection Committee: Knock, Knock!
Jayhawk Nation: Who's there?
Orange Bowl Selection Committee? Orange.
Jayhawk Nation: Orange, who?
Orange Bowl Selection Committee: Orange you glad we didn't say Mizzou?!
Jayhawk Nation: Hell yes!!!
Bring on the Hokies!!!
3 December 2007
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mrbugguy (Anonymous) says…
That's OK Kansas, especially Lawrence Kansas. Just remember the only reason anyone out of Kansas goes to Kansas is to use your fine highways to get somewhere else.
3 December 2007
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rumor_man (Anonymous) says…
The author of this article, Alexander Parker, is a Mizzou grad trying to stir up trouble in a warped way.
3 December 2007
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stops4armadillos (Anonymous) says…
Oh for goodness sake! Let's just ENJOY it! Hey Mizzou….bwahahahaha!!!!
3 December 2007
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Jeteras (Anonymous) says…
DUH! I mean come on Kansas “is” 11-1 go look at the records of all the other teams in the top 25!! sheesh Kansas realistically shouldve gotten a National Championship shot. Kind of upsetting when you read some articles that a bunch of it has to do with money and how much they would lose if a “not so popular” school was in the BCS Champ game!! Give the little guy I mean “BIG” guy hehe a shot for once!
go hawks! Bite the Orange and lets roll!!!
3 December 2007
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stevefly (Anonymous) says…
Enjoy it while it lasts, the Orange Bowl will end up being the most embarrassing night on a national stage that KU ever experiences. Aside from when KU couldn't live up to a #1 ranking an NEVER lead MU the entire time at Arrowhead.
3 December 2007
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jayhaitch (Anonymous) says…
Isn't Mizzou going to the Cotton Bowl?
3 December 2007
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Jeteras (Anonymous) says…
Stevefly, Yet you read a Kansas newspaper? and deep enough to leave a comment should'nt you be here http://www.mizzou.com/
3 December 2007
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MuWalt (Anonymous) says…
This newspaper is a joke. And so is BCS
The whole country nows that Mizzou should be in Orange bowl over Ku
I guess yall dont watch Espn or Fox Sports.
But i guess redemption will be served when Ku gets blown out by Virginia Tech
3 December 2007
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scoreboardman (Anonymous) says…
Hey Kansas:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_2S2P-BZNbv0/R…
36-28, losers.
By the way, seeing you segregationist hypocrites and this pathetic rag of a newspaper get yourselves all up in a tizzy over that shirt was one of the funniest damn things I've ever seen in my life, thanks for the good times. Since you're all too stupid to understand the reason the U.S. Supreme Court having to make the Brown v. Board ruling reflects poorly for you, I'll simplify it: imposing 75 years worth of statewide institutional segregation and racism right after emancipation makes you hypocritical biggots not freedom fighters. The free black who participated in Quantrill's raid was a pretty enlightened cat. Now, I know this level of discourse is way too advanced for the idiots at the Lawrence Journal World, so I'll dumb it down a bit more:
36-28
North champs
#6 in the BCS
Blow me.
3 December 2007
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“North champs
#6 in the BCS
Blow me.”
So? Please go cry elsewhere.
3 December 2007
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Valkyrie_of_Reason (Kathy Getto) says…
Where's that claire this morning? Oh claire - you lose.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha
3 December 2007
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KU_Dude (Anonymous) says…
scoreboardman (Anonymous) says:
Hey Kansas:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_2S2P-BZNbv0/R…
36-28, losers.
––––-
It's pretty typical that the link doesn't work coming from a Mizzou fan.
Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
3 December 2007
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scoreboardman (Anonymous) says…
Not crying, just calling out your doofus newspaper editors for talking smack at the start of their article to a team that just owned you and won the division over you. KU in the BCS over Mizzou is regarded as a national joke everywhere besides here, no point trying to characterize it as anything else. You got owned on the field and in the BCS standings and the entire country knows that. If you want to celebrate your “compliance doesn't sell tickets!' athletic department's lobbying ability, then go ahead, last time I checked they don't make a trophy for that or put it in the record books though. Suck it, segregationists.
3 December 2007
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jayhawkrodog (Anonymous) says…
To all disgruntled Mizzou fans- you should direct your anger at Mike Alden for being outhustled by Lew Perkins. It sure didn't help getting manhandled by OU for the second time. Where's all the MU experts who predicted MU would beat OU since Tony “I had one good game” Temple was back . Rock chalk. I don't feel sorry at all for Mizzou as most of their fans are classless jerks. They'd boo Santa Claus if he had a KU hat on. Orange Bowl baby!
3 December 2007
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KU_Dude (Anonymous) says…
scoreboardman,
I'm still trying to understand how a team owns another after only beating them by eight points and KU misses two field goals and throws two interceptions while driving for two other touchdowns.
Just sayin'
You're not worth of any more comments from me after just signing on this board today and making your first two comments slamming the BCS bound Jayhawks.
Have a good time at the non BCS Cotton Bowl game.
3 December 2007
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BigAl (Anonymous) says…
Scoreboardman says: ” KU in the BCS over Mizzou is regarded as a national joke everywhere besides here, no point trying to characterize it as anything else.”
Apparently the people in Miami and other people that actually make the decisions don't consider this as a national joke. Remember, KU didn't “pick” this game. The BCS Orange Bowl picked KU. Right or wrong. Don't blame KU.
3 December 2007
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jayhawkrodog (Anonymous) says…
Hey M-I-Z_E-R-Y fans: enjoy that 10:30 a.m. New Year's morning game in 35-40 degree weather with a light TV audience and jayhawkk fans will be sunning themselves in sunny, warm south Florida with the entire nation tuning in for that day's only bowl game. As OU Fan and musician Toby Keith would say” How do you like me now!”.
3 December 2007
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srj (Anonymous) says…
Let's be honest, this is the worst BCS match-up, and KU was alittle bit better draw them MU. Tech and B.C. played the ACC championship in Jacksoville to an half empty stadium, so this will be a tough sell. I would be shocked if all the seats where full. It might be called a “sell out” but so was the Chiefs game, and they had alot or orange seats showing.
3 December 2007
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“KU in the BCS over Mizzou is regarded as a national joke everywhere besides here, no point trying to characterize it as anything else.”
Once again, so what? Please whine elsewhere.
3 December 2007
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mom_of_three (Anonymous) says…
according to an article in another paper, if Missouri would have made a showing against OK, then they might have had a shot at the Orange Bowl. Since they pretty much choked in the 2nd half, it might have been a deal breaker to the committee.
KU, on the other hand, came back in the 2nd half, and never game up. It's the story of the year…
And the Cotton Bowl is nothing to sneeze at….
3 December 2007
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jennifermarti (Anonymous) says…
It was nice watching your “Heisman candidate” (ha ha) quarterback crack under the pressure of the OU defense. KU deserves the BCS bowl bid and all you Missouri fans have left is your sorry bowl bid and whining on our local newspaper blog. I can just imagine all of you throwing your arms in the air when the BCS bids were read. Just like your quarterback did when he threw that interception that was the unofficial end to your season! So sorry about that!
3 December 2007
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…
I have two theories; one, they read the message boards and watch the MU crowd at Missouri games and realize they don't want that kind of behavior in their Orange bowl, not that some of us aren't stooping to their level and slamming them back….
The other is that in MU-OU, their quarterback was seen throwing tantrums and acting childish, and completely falling apart, while in KU-MU, our quarterback pulled himself and the others on our team by their jockstraps and came back to show some guts. That's incredibly hard to do when you are down for three quarters. IOW, we have chutzpah.
3 December 2007
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gontek (Anonymous) says…
Lou Holtz had a good comment in the selection show last night: “I like Kansas, I have rooted fore them all along. That being said, they are in trouble against Virginia Tech.”
Mizzou had a great season, congratulations to them. This game is not about Mizzou, it is about KU and VT. Can we focus on that? Maybe how the system was unfair to Mizzou and/or other teams should be another story not related to the Jayhawks.
3 December 2007
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Valkyrie_of_Reason (Kathy Getto) says…
Kansas
Keeping America
Safe from Missouri
Since 1854
3 December 2007
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Commodus (Anonymous) says…
I am not a KU fan or a MU fan, but MU really got hosed!!!
Record of KU teams played 63-82
Record of MU teams played 88-69
Not to mention that MU is ranked higher that KU and MU beat Illinois (Going to Rose Bowl). I am not knocking KU, but the BCS as we all know is flawed beyond belief!!!! As for the above artical, show some class would you! You are a journalist not a KU beat writer……
3 December 2007
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skibum1 (Anonymous) says…
Who cares? Neither the Cotton Bowl or Orange Bowl are the National Championship Game. They are friggin exhibition games.
Mizzou gagged in San Antonio but will get a good tv audience sitting home on a New Years morning plus exposure in a good recruiting area.
KU gets a chance to prove they can beat a ranked team plus they get Florida recruiting exposure.
It really does not matter…
The only thing that matters every year, bowls or no bowls, 0-11, 7-4 or 11-1 is the outcome of the Border War. Until November 29, 2008…it remains Mizzou 36 Hawks 28
3 December 2007
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yme (Anonymous) says…
First let me make this perfectly clear, I am a KU fan and I love the fact that Mooo is getting hosed, couldn't happen to a better group of whiners. But I also have a conspiracy theory:
Had the Orange Bowl selected Moo, they would have had a match up of the No. 3 team vs. the previous No. 1 team. The winner of the game could have made a substantial claim they should share the national title.
The bowl selectors did a great job of picking deserving teams, but in such a way that no one can challenge the BCS title game: If Illinois wins the Rose, upset, but if USC wins, they simply beat an understaffed Illinois team. West Virginia is flawed so a match up with Oklahoma is a great second-ranked victory, but not a title argument, although it is the closest to a title threat of the games. And of course, giving Georgia a date with Hawaii, well that speaks for itself.
Now, KU vs. VT: potentially a good game and likely viewed that way, but also does not lead to national title arguement: if VT wins, they simply beat KU, but if KU wins, well they didn't win a conference, blah, blah, blah. Equally interesting, Moo gets Arkansas which is an obvious second—tier team, deflating the value of a win, but almost guaranteeing the Tiggers a win so they can feel good about themselves. The beauty of it all is 90 percent of the nation will either still be asleep or more interested in parades when that little beauty kicks off, plus it is up against another game so Moo grazes alone.
Go 'Hawks.
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Mangino_saurus (Anonymous) says…
Some information the Orange Bowl must have overlooked:
KU had one of the worst strength of schedules in the nation (106th of 119 teams)
MU had a respectable strength of schedule (38th of 119 teams)
KU only beat one top 25 team all year - (#24 K-State who finished 5-7)
MU played five top 25 teams all year, won three, with the other two losses to OU
Played 4 games against BCS teams, KU, Illinois, and OU twice, beating both KU and Illinois
MU was ranked AHEAD of KU in the final BCS rankings, and both polls
And Finally, Missouri won the head-to-head matchup against KU, and took home the North crown.
What does this mean? It means the BCS is does not work, only selecting the top 2 team in the Nation and allowing the other bowls to select who they want. I disagree with the Orange Bowls selection, I feel MU is a better team than KU. KU had a good season but MU has a better resume. True, MU lost 2 games, however one was in a Conference Championship, a game KU did not play in because they did not win their division. Why should MU be penalized for this? I think KU fans should be thanking Lew, he did some pretty good marketing to get his team in the Orange Bowl.
“The bottom line is that Virginia Tech is too fast on both sides of the ball for Kansas” - ESPN
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Andini (Anonymous) says…
Forget about the BCS selection, I'm still laughing about this.
http://deadspin.com/sports/towel-peei…
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
And the BCS said, “Mizz-who?”
What a shame they couldn't beat Oklahoma, because this lack of respect must be like rubbing salt in the wound of that loss. What a big, fat, Tiger-sized tears shame.
Oh well.
Go KU!
3 December 2007
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JayhawksandHerd (Anonymous) says…
Well, first of all, the Tiggers were “penalized” for completely falling apart in prime time on a national stage. Now, had they been selected instead of KU, fine, but they weren't, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Of course, the rule that only allows two conference teams in the system is dumb in the first place (how does Georgia deserve to be there any more than anyone else?) when we're allowing computer formulas and votes to determine a mythical “national champion”…so, yes, the BCS is completely ridiculous, and this may be the worst year of it yet. I still maintain that there is no national championship in major college football…you can call it the BCS championship all you want, but not the “national championship.”
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fishcat (Anonymous) says…
I guess they won the battle, but we won the bowl.
3 December 2007
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sourpuss (Anonymous) says…
I guess you all are right, we couldn't have three teams in BCS games, but that just makes the BCS rather irrelevant then. It isn't about the best teams, it is about some sort of distribution requirement where you could have some really undeserving teams playing for mythical “stakes”.
Should the best teams go to the top bowls, regardless? Perhaps we should just throw out the BCS and let the bowls invite whomever they wish for some fun exhibition sport during the holidays. We don't need to attach any more meaning to it than that.
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riverat (Joe Hyde) says…
It might also be that the BCS Committee took into account that the Jayhawks finished the season 11-1 and didn't lose their first game until playing Missouri. Then Missouri and Oklahoma met in the Big 12 Championship and after the smoke cleared those teams both had 11-2 records — same number of wins as the Jayhawks, but one more loss each than the Jayhawks had. 11-2 vs. 11-1. Mathematically the percentage difference worked in our favor for getting a BCS bowl invite.
But who knows for sure? It's just wonderful that KU is going to a BCS bowl this year. And it's fantastic that this year's team gets to play in the Orange Bowl. Just fantastic…unbelievable…I'm so happy!
I'll be pulling for Missouri to win the bowl game they play in. Wow, they've got a great team this year, too! Same thing for Oklahoma.
Are we having fun or what?
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VoiceOfReason (Anonymous) says…
KU is in a BCS game and Missiouri isn't for the same reasons we, at Kansas, know to be true. Missouri's going to hang their hats from their entire season on their game against us. That's just sad when you realize what happened in that game, even in the words of the abc/espn analysts. KU choked…it sucked for us, but ended up spotting MU 21 points in the game before we “un-choked” and started to play. At that point, we took back all but 6 and lost the last 2 on a desperation play (owing to the HUGE point spread we spotted you.) The KU-MU game proved what the national media had speculated. KU wasn't invincible, but is a very strong second half team, and Missouri sucks in the second half of games. Hence, Oklahoma being a 7 point spread. Everyone KNEW Missouri might hang around until half time…but then they'de choke, like they do in the second half of most games and lose it BIG. I had money on a 21 point win for Oklahoma…you just have to know how teams play, overall, to predict that one. Every team (except Hawaii, who doesn't play in a league that can even qualify them for contender) choked at some point during the season. Many choked early, which makes a unbeaten streak afterwards fairly easy without the “remaining undefeated” title hanging over them. The hardest unbeaten steak to maintain is one that starts at the beginning of the season, like KU did. So we lost one game at the end of the season…we went undefeated longer than anyone else in the country (excluding Hawaii, like I mentioned above) and in the one game we did lose, we proved what a strong second-half team we have and how weak MU is in the same.
The BCS committees wanted to see some good games. They wanted a team that would play strong to the end of the game and be competitive throughout. Oklahoma and Kansas are the two Big 12 teams that can do that. Missouri has now proven, multiple times, that they can't.
But don't feel too bad, Missouri fans. Our game will be after the new year and run nationally, so you can see a great team beating a good Virginia Tech in a nice BCS bowl. You'll be done by then, so you should have time to watch and cheer for us, right? Because all of you holier-than-thou MU fans claim that “we would have cheered for Kansas if it helped us look better:” So cheer for us, if you can…or sulk about how unfair it is, if you prefer. But don't try to make us feel like we've accomplished less this season because we had one bad half against a mediocre team. We've accomplished a tremendous amount, including beating you out of the BCS and we're going to enjoy the hell out of this.
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Mangino_saurus (Anonymous) says…
Somebody will always be upset about the results of the bowl slections -just how it is.
Form a Big 12 perspective, to bad there couldn't have been 8 teams going bowling this year instead of only 6. The Big 12 is one of the best, if not the best conference in college football in my opinion.
I feel LSU deserves their spot in the big game, but disagree with Ohio State and would argue OU is more deserving.
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BorderRat (Anonymous) says…
I'm happy KU is going to a major bowl game, but the BCS (they should remove the “C”) is a joke. Time for a play-off.
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Mangino_saurus (Anonymous) says…
I feel conference championship games are a “play-off”. You win your regular season games and your conference championship, you'll make it to the big game. The whole season is a playoff. Unfortunatly, a play-off system will not work in college football, and the BCS is flawed.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
Manginosauraus -
The Big 12 did get 8 in. ku, mu, ou, cu, aTm, OSU, TTech, Tex.
Very impressive for a conference.
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bd (Anonymous) says…
I hope that MU does well in the “hillbilly” bowl !!!!!!!!
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achtung (Anonymous) says…
don't blame bcs. bcs only lines up the champ game. orange bowl picked ku. bottom line is that they would rather have ku than mu. they don't want those tiger fans sporting their cut-offs at the beach.
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MUKUOUFan (Anonymous) says…
Really, I'm a Bix XII fan, but that name was taken. Anyway, here's my neutral take on this:
KU: You are gloating because MU defeated you on national tv, took away your undefeated season, prevented you from ever getting ranked #1, and they won the Big 12 North. You achieved nothing against MU this season. As for the Orange Bowl, that was not your achievement, that was the bowl selection committee's action. Many believe they did so to protect their ACC team (Virginia Tech), in that they are playing before a large (paying) Florida crowd, and KU was a safer game to win than against MU. That having been said, I hope KU wins the game, and does the Big 12 proud.
MU: You feel you got shafted by the Orange Bowl committee…well, you did. The nation agrees with you. But at this point you need to look forward, be happy with an awesome season in which you proved yourself at Arrowhead stadium on national tv, and became the #1 team in the nation. Quite a change from previous years. As for the question at the beginning of this article “How does your #1 feel now?”…remember how it felt, because KU and OU did not get that feeling this year. Congrats, and good luck against Arkansas (they beat LSU, you can too). Do the Big 12 proud!
OU: Probably the best all-around team in the nation, you've redeemed yourself by winning the Big 12. Don't be upset you didn't get into the BCS Championship game, you lost two games you shouldn't have, very poorly, but you came back. Good luck, and do the Big 12 proud.
GO BIG 12 !!!!
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djgratt59 (Anonymous) says…
MU v. Ark.. The “Mullet Nations” bowl..
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avaholic (Anonymous) says…
Instant Karma gonna get you….
Careful Jayhawk fans. Let's just celebrate our season.
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MUKUOUFan (Anonymous) says…
C'mon KU fans show some class. Anyone can blather away with those jokes. How do you get a “KU” grad to leave your front door? Pay for the pizza (Note, you can substitute any name, MU/KU/OU in there. As for bowl names, how about the “Orangutan Bowl”, because the selection process was done by a group of monkeys?
Look, KU, you had a great season, you're going to a BCS bowl game, take the high road for a change. I know what MU did to you at Arrowhead hurts, taking away your undefeated season and shot at being #1, but don't be as unprofessional as the writer of this article. Coach Mangino accomplished a lot, as did the team. Don't respect him by acting like a bunch of idiot monkeys.
Rather, let's here you get behind all of the Big 12 teams in bowl games, show your conference pride. We have enough on our hands against the ACC, SEC, etc.., without our own bickering.
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
I was rooting for MU to win, because I thought it would improve KU's chances to get into the BCS. What a waste of a nauseous feeling.
I have never liked Mizzou fans. The team is commendable and has some great players, but I can't stand the Mizzou fans.
Am I in favor of KU playing a patsy non-conference schedule? No. I used to laugh at K-State at the end of the year when they would be penalized for the same behavior.
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ModerateOne (Anonymous) says…
Does the high road go in a southeasterly direction?
P.S. Drink Genuine Florida Orange Juice. It just tastes better.
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
Are we being lectured by someone who claims to be both a fan of KU and MU?
To hell with Missouri. Go Hogs!
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djgratt59 (Anonymous) says…
Q. when you squeeze a Mangino what do you get?
A. PURE Florida O.J. Oh how sweet it is!
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
I'm all for Missouri playing in the Sugar Bowl against Georgia. That would be a good game. Save your breath, I know only two teams max from a conference. (Stupid rule.)
I watched Hawaii play Washington and that game was as competitive as could be. It was at Aloha Stadium against a 4-8 Washington Huskie team. Hawaii won by a touchdown after being down by 21 points in the first ten minutes.
Hawaii is the luckiest team in this BCS selection season. If a team that played in that weak of a conference received a number one seed in the basketball tournament, people would be going nuts.
KU. Second luckiest. Go hawks…
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MUKUOUFan (Anonymous) says…
Ok, perhaps the KU fans need to gloat, as you've been obviously hurting pretty bad since you were beaten by MU. But again, you have to ask yourselves, what did WE, what did KU, achieve on its own against MU? And the answer is nothing. OU cost MU a national title, and the Orange Bowl selection committee cost MU a BCS game. You did nothing but lose the Big 12 North, thereby allowing yourselves one less loss than MU when it went on to the Big 12 Championship. Yes, you achieved an 11-1 record, as did MU by defeating you…they simply went on to play an extra championship game, and lost it to #4 OU. So go on, enjoy the Orange Bowl…but remember, it's still not the BCS Championship game…MU took that away from you. Good luck, hope you win!
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Confrontation (Anonymous) says…
Where is poster Mizzu with his/her pathetic Missery fight song? Not much to sing about, huh? Ha, ha! Since when has a Border War been considered a friendly battle?
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“If a team that played in that weak of a conference received a number one seed in the basketball tournament, people would be going nuts.”
Bone - It happened just a few years ago with St. Joe's out of the A-10. They got a 1 seed and made it to the Elite 8 I think.
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
logicsound04 - check out Gonzaga's nonconference schedule. They play one of the strongest non-conference schedules around so they wouldn't have to worry about that, but it was a nice attempt. You picked a team a really like, but know too much about.
The BCS is a flawed system with subjective criteria and it sucks. That being said the 16th seeded Warriors should not be in the top eight teams….
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djgratt59 (Anonymous) says…
MUK UFO's,
We can tell you're still feeling really bitter after MU's slaughter Sat. night.. just remember, that at least 1/3 of the nation will still be sleeping when MU/ Ark. kick-off..
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
TOB - the A-10 always has some good basketball teams in it. I watched Temple beat KU at Allen Field House. Basketball has a lot more parody than college football.
The NCAA needs to take a page from the Championship Subdivision or whatever they are calling Division 1-AA. They have been using tie breakers and a playoff series since the eighties. Division 1-A adopted the tie breaker. Now lets see the playoff.
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craigers (Anonymous) says…
How is KU a safer team for VT to play? MU beat KU by 8 points, after missing two field goals and being down by 21 points. KU choked from the pressure in the first half, I will give you that. However, KU beat MU in the second half of ball. The fourth quarter that Chase was supposed to be so good in, didn't turn out because of the KU defense. Yeah, MU won and I can't refute that but it definitely wasn't in a decisive manner like the MU fans would like to think. OU lost to two unranked teams. KU's only loss was against a No. 4 ranked team and it was a good game. As long as they can play 4 quarters, then the matchup with VT should be a good show.
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MUKUOUFan (Anonymous) says…
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/con…
Fun site ranking the bowl games. The great part is, there are 8 teams from the Big 12!
Go Colorado!
Go Texas A&M!
Go Oklahoma State!
Go Missouri!
Go Kansas!
Go Texas Tech!
Go Oklahoma!
Go Texas!
GO BIG 12 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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yme (Anonymous) says…
Three words:
Suey, Go Hogs
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
logicsound04 - I am in total agreement. We need a play-off.
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
I say we go back to the Big 8. These Texas schools are really dragging us down.
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bevy (Anonymous) says…
I'm excited about the Jayhawks success this year, and having looked at the link provided by MUKUOUfan above, I have to say I'm glad it's still called the Orange Bowl. Chick-Fil-A Bowl?!?! WTF? Corporate sponsorship is great, but this is getting out of hand.
I still call it Sandstone Amphitheater, by the way.
go big blue!!
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perkins (Anonymous) says…
The early posts were correct. The article is poor journalism. The Journal World no longer has adults to edit childish writing?
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
MUfanKUOUbandwagon - nice site you posted to try to find some way to say that the MU game was bigger. It's not, no matter how 'you' look at it. Just ask Lew, as he looks out from his giant stacks of green.
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MUKUOUFan (Anonymous) says…
Bevy, you are so funny, and right! Or the “papajohns.com bowl”, “meineke car care bowl”..!! Thank goodness there are some names that still hold tradition: Rose, Cotton, Sugar, Orange.
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MUKUOUFan (Anonymous) says…
Bone777….sorry you took it that way, not my intention, just a site that was on Yahoo that seemed to list them, and have humorous comments. I am an MU fan, I am a KU fan, I am an OU fan…I”m a Big 12 fan. Not everything, or everybody, has a hidden agenda. Enjoy your oranges!
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djgratt59 (Anonymous) says…
Perk - don't be jealous!
Yea, how did that royal screwing feel??
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Thats_messed_up (Anonymous) says…
Let me guess, Lew Perkins gives away 30,000 tickets and blue t-shirts to cubans in the streets of Miami and announces paid attendance by KU fans as 31,000. Same old Lew.
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Mangino_saurus (Anonymous) says…
When you read this, sing it to yourself. Imagine the song.
Bud Light Presents: Real Men of Genius
(real men of genius)
Today we salute you, Mr. Excuse Ridden Over-Confident Kansas Football Fan.
(Mr. Excuse Ridden Over-Confident Kansas Football Fan)
Eleven straight wins, you wore that classy “Muck Fizzou” shirt like you meant it
(Pinch me, I'm dreamin'!)
A season of bloated statistics and over-hyped wins against Junior Varsity competition
(Serve another cupcake!)
Losing to a superior team with better players is no match for your what-if scenarios and could-have-been dreams
(The field goal missed by inches!)
So crack open an ice-cold Bud Light you emphatic engineer of excuses. After all, you would've won the game if it was played somewhere else!
(Mr Excuse Ridden Over-Confident Kansas Football Fan.)
sorry, week old but still funny
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legolette (Anonymous) says…
one thing that i've noticed that everybody else has overlooked is that even if we had beaten mu they would have ended up 10-2 and we would have ended up 12-1…still only one loss for us in that column.
i'll admit that i've never been an mu fan(correction: a hard-core ku fan that can't stand it when mu wins) but come on guys! can't we act with class for once in our lives? mu got screwed over by the bcs and we all know it. be happy but still keep the dignity that we're (supposedly) known for here in lawrence.
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StirrrThePot (Anonymous) says…
LOL at Mizzou fans calling the Border War KU's Superbowl…when in fact it is MU who shot their wad on the Kansas game, leaving nothing for the contest against OU. Look what happened. Chase Daniel sits on the sidelines all grumpy and never bounces back from a lousy performance. How do you like those boogers? It looks like you guys won YOUR Superbowl! BCS? Forget it, year after year your season is a wash unless you have that coveted win against Kansas. You already won your title game, congratulations! You can have it. I'd rather see my team in the Orange Bowl.
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janeyb (Anonymous) says…
I agree with the poster who said that Missouri's actions on and off the field may have kept them out of a BCS bowl. I'm sure Miami wants a bunch of Missouri hicks running around in t-shirts promoting slavery. What about shoving the Oklahoma player into the Missouri bench, and Chase-Heisman-has been- Daniels tantrum after being sacked with a couple of minutes to go. And the trash talking before and after the KU and the OU game. This crap was on the National news and made Missouri fans look like poor white trash. Bowl promoters want to sell tickets and have good games with few problems.
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matt12314 (Anonymous) says…
Hey Kansas FANS you should be proud of yourselves, not your team. Good for you being chosen at traveling better than Mizzou fans. But even your coach said it wasn't fair along with everyone in the country not from Kansas. So hey I hope you win in the Orange, because next year winning won't be easy considering you have South Florida (a team you scheduled a long time ago thinking it was a creampuff. Woops.) Texas, Texas Tech, Mizzou, and Oklahoma. I just hope you can make it back to a bowl game. Oh and your biggest win this year according to ESPN was to a team that fired its coach based on record. So congrats you have now showed the rest of the CFB world that they CAN schedule Girl Scouts on their NC schedule and still go to a BCS.
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matt12314 (Anonymous) says…
Ya Missouri's full of the Hick Farmer's. Oh wait no that's Kansas, my bad.
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Haiku_Cuckoo (Anonymous) says…
Congrats to Mizzou for going to the Cotton Bowl. Your team had a very good season and a trip to the Cotton Bowl is something to be very proud of. No need for any of us here to bicker back and forth. Regardless of which team you support, it's obvious the the Jayhawks and Tigers both deserve some recognition for a job well done this season.
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KU_Dude (Anonymous) says…
Here's to Coach Elf Mangino!
http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=116628…
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“I guess Mizzou athletic director should have thrown a briefcase full of money at Orange Bowl officials like Lew Perkins did.”
Perhaps if Mike Alden knew how to be an AD he wouldn't have been beaten, and beaten badly by East Coast Lew.
I can't believe this whole deal is making Lew into some sort of folk hero. Last night, I pictured him sitting on his leather sofa, smoking a cuban cigar, sipping black label and enjoying the company of two cheerleaders while laughing his freaking ass off.
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manus_flexibilis (Anonymous) says…
scuckin fore will be in KU's favor, will be another national verifiable internecion!
What a year