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Brown, Holland trade verbal jabs over tax cuts, school funding, K-10 safety

September 30, 2012

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— State Sen. Tom Holland and state Rep. Anthony Brown traded sharp verbal blows Sunday over school funding, safety improvements on Kansas Highway 10 and tax cuts in the 3rd Senate District race.

Holland, D-Baldwin City and Brown, R-Eudora, faced off in a debate at Eudora Middle School.

Holland said the tax cuts pushed through by Gov. Sam Brownback and supported by Brown will lead to big cuts to public schools and higher property taxes.

Once the tax cuts take effect, schools, which have already been hit with state funding cuts during the recession, will see state funding cuts of $350 million to $400 million per year, Holland said.

"That will affect the future earning potential of your kids," said Holland, who is the ranking Democrat on the Senate tax committee.

But Brown defended the tax cuts, saying it will put more money into the pockets of all Kansans. Referring to Holland, Brown said, "His solution to everything is what? More money."

The state is decreasing its individual income tax rates for 2013, with the top rate dropping to 4.9 percent from 6.45 percent. Also, the state will exempt the owners of 191,000 partnerships, sole proprietorships and other businesses from income taxes.

The Legislature's research staff projects the tax cuts will create collective budget shortfalls approaching $2.5 billion over the next six years. But supporters of the tax cuts say the package will boost the economy and create jobs.

On school funding, Brown said two Eudora school board members told him that recent budget cuts in the Eudora school district were needed to cut "some dead weight."

During a question and answer period, Bob Sailler, an eighth-grade English teacher at Eudora Middle School, said budget cuts have forced the district to lose 10 jobs, and have larger classroom sizes. He said the "dead weight" comment offended him and he asked Brown who were the two school board members who said that.

Brown declined to reveal their names.

Holland also said the tax package approved during the last legislative session was unfair, benefiting mostly wealthy Kansans, while eliminating for low-income residents the food sales tax rebate and a homestead tax credit for renters. "I think that is very shameful," he said.

In his opening statement, Holland said when Eudora Mayor Scott Hopson sought help to improve safety on K-10, in the wake of a fatal accident, Holland responded with assistance.

Hopson has publicly criticized Brown, saying Brown did nothing to help get a cable median barrier on K-10 approved by the Kansas Department of Transportation after the death of 5-year-old Cainan Shutt. "He basically left us high and dry," Hopson said of Brown.

But Brown said he worked "tirelessly" behind the scenes on the issue, and he noted a July letter he received from KDOT Secretary Mike King, in which King thanked Brown "for your ongoing concern to see this project through." Brown said, "When you use the death of a 5-year-old to make political points, that is wrong."

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Truth 1 year, 6 months ago

Holland's message was clear and consistent: fund education to produce an intelligent citizenship that will create jobs and provide an intelligent workforce. Brown's message was less clear: cut taxes because two Eudora school board members told him to get rid of dead weight. Eliminate income taxes for business owners. Holland responded when Republican Eudora mayor Scott Hopson asked for help. Brown did not, according to Hopson. The contrast between the two was clear. Holland was calm and under control. Brown rambled and yelled. There is a clear choice between the two and that's the truth.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

The fewer republicans the more our properties will become worth and the more likely USA jobs will be reinvigorated.

BRING ON EMPLOYMENT = THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN FEAR ON EARTH!!!

Repubs fear a dramatically improved quality of life for all WOULD keep them out of control for decades….. we would hope.

Keep in mind a prospering america can overcome repub fear mongering... it must.

What is the repub party afraid? Why do they ALWAYS say no?

What do Repubs fear?

--- Fear a dramatically improved quality of life for all americans

--- Fear Jobs Jobs Jobs for americans

--- Fear New USA industry thus new wealth for america

--- Fear new cleaner energy sources because it would create so many new jobs and reduce rates across the board

--- Fear Medicare Single Payer Insurance for = huge tax dollar savings to government,public schools,small business and all of us in general. Single Payer Medicare is the answer. http://www.healthcare-now.org/

--- Fear Clean Collar Industries which produce jobs that cannot be outsourced

--- Fear educated Americans because WE ask questions

--- Fear losing of tax incentives/tax breaks for the wealthy that actually create tax increases for entire spectrum of the middleclass

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08Champs 1 year, 6 months ago

Programs to help employers was a suggestion of one of the posters (JohnDeere).....so you're asking for government assistance? You are screaming to cut federal programs to reduce the budget/deficit, but you want more programs for business owners? Can't have it both ways. And last time I checked, one of the "programs" in place to help business owners are TAX DEDUCTIONS. Do you know how many small business owners show little or no income on their taxes, so they reduce or eliminate any personal income tax? A LOT. Do they hire more people because they have little or no tax debt? The employment numbers say no - most of them just buy a bigger home, another car, one more vacation, or put the money in savings ....does their consumption create more jobs? The employment numbers say no. Why do I have fewer deductions just because I get a W2? I still "consume" and thus drive the economy. I just don't have the loopholes. Review the taxes of most small business owners and you'll wonder how they can pay a mortgage and feed their family on $11,500 a year.... (post deductions). And if they TRULY aren't making more money, then they might consider another line of work. Yes, I'm angry - because it's not fair, and Brown, Brownback, and Mitt Romney want to make it worse.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

As far as Lynn Jenkins is concerned she was there when our property values went straight to hell therefore why would anyone want her back in office?

A refresher course in history.

Neither Republican Women nor Democrat Women or the Republican/Democrat Upper Middle Class/Middle class can afford the Republican Party.

Is the market value of your home worth less than your mortgage? How much market value have home owners lost since 2007? Trillions of $$$$.

Let's talk about entitlements that have literally destroyed jobs,economies and retirement plans. And made owning a home a risky investment - now that is remarkable.

DC republicans have been successful at wrecking our economy big time twice in the past thirty years. Because of the pattern I am convinced it is their economic policy established under the direction of Reagan/Bush.

Bush/Cheney accomplished a remarkable achievement by destroying the world economy which of course makes it difficult for the USA to bounce back quickly. The question becomes how in the world did they sucker financial institutions worldwide into buying bundles upon bundles upon bundles of bad USA home loans worth trillions of dollars in bad debt?

What an incredible and criminally insane economic policy? I don't believe the entire world can afford the economically reckless republican party that was born in 1980.

Let's talk about entitlements that literally destroyed jobs,economies,retirement plans. And made owning a home a risky investment - now that is remarkable.

--- This ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

--- This ENTITLEMENT Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

--- This ENTITLEMENT - Bush/Cheney implied many financial institutions were at risk instead of only 3? One of the biggest lies perpetrated to American citizens. Where did this money go? Why were some banks forced to take bail out money? http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

Is the market value of your home worth less than your mortgage? How much market value have home owners lost since 2007?

The fewer republicans the more our properties will become worth and the more likely USA jobs will be reinvigorated.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

If Brown was not making stuff up perhaps he does not know what he is talking about?

Where's the transparency?

The republican party per se is dead. Brown is an imposter. He cannot be trusted.

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Richard Heckler 1 year, 6 months ago

Brown is a Brownback puppet. If he were not Brown would not be a candidate today which means neither are republicans ..... can we say RINO. Neither republicans nor democrats nor women can trust a RINO. Most certainly cannot afford a RINO.

The Topeka RINO's authorized a $47,000,000 million dollar hand out to AMC so that AMC would relocate from the Missouri side to the Kansas side. That is not fiscal restraint that is reckless spending. Then AMC sold out to investors from China. Does Kansas or the USA need more USA dollars going to the Chinese Communist Government?

"Last year, Kansas used workers' withholding taxes to bribe AMC Entertainment with a $47 million payment to move its headquarters from downtown Kansas City, Missouri, to a KC suburb on the Kansas side, just 10 miles away. What a ripoff! "

--- http://www.GoodJobsFirst.org.

--- http://jimhightower.com/node/7723

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StirrrThePot 1 year, 6 months ago

"When you use the death of a 5-year-old to make political points, that is wrong."

When you use your faith as a political vehicle in your campaign like so many RINOs and tea party jerks do, that is wrong as well. Funny that a politician will pretend to have standards on selective items.

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sierraclub 1 year, 6 months ago

I have to be rich to like taxcuts? I am very thankfull that the rich are actually wanting to have jobs for this country. Define RICH? Lets see, Oprah and the Clintons come to mind. When the Clintons left Arkansas, what did they own? NOTHING. Now their worth is about $180,000,000!!! Yep, voting LIBERAL is a good thing!

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inquire 1 year, 6 months ago

So the comment goes something like, the tax cuts will affect the education your children get, reducing their income and the income of an entire generation and the response is "our tax cuts will put a few more bucks in your pocket?"

Hmmm... a few bucks now, or the prosperity of an entire generation, which will ensure the one after that is better off, which will ensure the one after that is better off, which.......

Geez, so hard to decide.

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mycatsrightorwrong 1 year, 6 months ago

You think Brown not caring about people dying on highways or teachers getting laid off is bad? Try this one.

Google "Pushed by Grieving Parents, Kansas Makes Sweeping Reforms" which is in the Minneapolis Tribune. It discusses how children were dying in Kansas because of negligence in day-cares. Our legislators passed a bill to increase supervision, and babies quit dying. Who could vote against such an initiative? In a depressing non-surprise, Brown was one of minority of a TEA party House members who voted against this inexpensive regulatory provision to keep infants from dying.

But hey, that's OK, because government intrusion is always a bad thing. Right?

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notajayhawk 1 year, 6 months ago

"Holland said the tax cuts pushed through by Gov. Sam Brownback and supported by Brown will lead to big cuts to public schools and higher property taxes."

Not that I was likely to vote for him anyway, but I would never cast a vote for someone whose complete lack of understanding of economics is so evident, since tax rates and revenues have never been correlated.

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Pork_Ribs 1 year, 6 months ago

Why is there a picture of Schlingensiepen and Jenkins on an article about Holland and Brown?

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jjt 1 year, 6 months ago

The photos that top this story are confusing. It seems the stress of the campaign has got to Tom Holland who has lost all his hair whilst Brown got cute.

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David Albertson 1 year, 6 months ago

How many Republican voters would be turned off if they knew Anthony Brown is a UNION carpenter? That's right, he's a card carrying member of a SOCIALIST organization. I'm surprised Mr. Holland hasn't made that known.

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Number_1_Grandma 1 year, 6 months ago

Brown is nothing more than the redheaded step child of BROWNback. i.e. Koch brothers

Embarrassment to Eudora and certainly Kansas!

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Dan Eyler 1 year, 6 months ago

I attended the debts today. Anthony Brown was far more prepared offering concrete answers to each question asked. The teacher who.questioned brown about the school dead wood comments approached brown afterwards for what seemed like a very friendly conversation. Brown clearly articulated the challenges he faced during his teaching days and the challenges today. All 6 of his children are or were in the Eudora school system. Brown also pointed out that Holland claims to be the friend of the poor man but voted for the increase in the state sales tax. Brown voted against the sales tax increase. Holland continually defended more government spending. You can call brown all the names in the book but he was far better prepared and seemed to have a much clearer understanding of the issues people are concerned about.

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Carol Bowen 1 year, 6 months ago

Has anyone else noticed that some of the campaign ads do not sport the name of the political party?

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Eudoravoter 1 year, 6 months ago

Nope sorry! I've posted a handful of times before but a different name that I couldn't remember. What's it matter if I post 1 time or 200 like some of you. Like I said that was my opinion. You just obviously didn't agree with him. I walked to the the Congress and Senate forums (didn't stay for third) with an open mind. Stop judging me...you guys are no better and you do not know everything...sorry to break the news to you!

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lawrenceforever 1 year, 6 months ago

At this point, the fact that Anthony Brown continues to speak at public events is laughable. Brown has empirically made an idiot out of himself every time he opens his mouth when the press is around. A cursory google search will reveal comments about KU and Lawrence being the black pit of Kansas. He believed that the community is "too liberal". Brown made these comments despite the fact that he represents areas of Lawrence and has to get the votes of people he blatantly disrespected and demeaned. Brown statements in this forum do not disappoint. How can he expect the public to believe that Eudora schools wanted him to cut the budget when he refuses to give any details? It is completely unfeasible for any school district employee, board member, or logical person to ask for cuts to education. The fact that he can not provide any evidence or further explanation when questioned unveils that his statement is nothing but a poorly thought out lie or exaggeration. Brown political decisions have only hurt Kansas. Our only hope is that he loses in November.

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eudoravoter2 1 year, 6 months ago

Seriously, eudoravoter! I also live in Eudora. Anthony Brown just opened pandora's box. He should reveal his sources or admit he made the "dead weight" statement up. Way to bring your voters together. AB

"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain

Anthony next time you decide to speak, think of Mark Twain.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 1 year, 6 months ago

"But Brown said he worked "tirelessly" behind the scenes on the issue, and he noted a July letter he received from KDOT Secretary Mike King, in which King thanked Brown"

Hmm, would that be the same KDOT Secretary hired by Brownback, who might just be motivated to write a BS letter in support of Brown in order to help in his campaign against Brownback's opponent in the last election? Surely none of Brownback's appointees wouldn't engage in such petty partisanship, would they?

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cheeseburger 1 year, 6 months ago

I'm amazed - Rothschild CAN write a factual, balanced story without interjecting his own liberal bias. Thanks Scott!

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Eudoravoter 1 year, 6 months ago

I attended the forum today. I went with an open mind about both of the candidates. I felt Tom Holland was not prepared at all. This is only my second debate/forum to ever attend so maybe my expectations weren't correct. I did't like how he seemd to have canned answers. Anthony Brown seemed more prepared and I felt he showed passion. Unfortunately the debate was limited on time and not all of the issues were covered, however, I would say Brown definately won this debate. I do not think they say if there is a winner or loser at this level. Just my opinion.

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sierraclub 1 year, 6 months ago

Please, please raise my taxes!!

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Phillbert 1 year, 6 months ago

"On school funding, Brown said two Eudora school board members told him that recent budget cuts in the Eudora school district were needed to cut "some dead weight.""

I didn't know Charles and David Koch were on the Eudora school board.

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yourworstnightmare 1 year, 6 months ago

"On school funding, Brown said two Eudora school board members told him that recent budget cuts in the Eudora school district were needed to cut "some dead weight."

"During a question and answer period, Bob Sailler, an eighth-grade English teacher at Eudora Middle School, said budget cuts have forced the district to lose 10 jobs, and have larger classroom sizes. He said the "dead weight" comment offended him and he asked Brown who were the two school board members who said that."

"Brown declined to reveal their names."

Hilarious. Brown makes stuff up to try to support his position and then weasels out of it. Anthony Brown = embarrassing fail.

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