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Kansas tea party illustration of Obama draws racism claims

December 12, 2011

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— A tea party group in Kansas says its depiction of President Barack Obama as a skunk is satire, not racism as the leader of a civil rights group alleges.

Hutchinson-based Patriot Freedom Alliance says on its website that like the president, the skunk is "half black, half white, and almost everything it does stinks."

The Hutchinson News reports local NAACP president Darrell Pope sees no humor in the depiction, which he calls a blatant statement of racism.

Local tea party supporter Chuck Sankey says former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has been the target of worse insults than what's on the website.

Patriot Freedom Alliance meets regularly and has hosted rallies in the Hutchinson Sports Arena.

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FalseHopeNoChange 2 years, 4 months ago

Speaking of that "hope and change". How is that closing of GITMO going. At least GITMO is not a "CIA black site prison"

Romania: Details of Secret CIA Prison Embarrass EU, NATO New details of a CIA black site prison in Romania threaten to estrange some NATO partners and negatively affect relations between the European Union and the United States. The Associated Press reported this month that former U.S. intelligence officials have identified a building in Bucharest where they say the United States conducted interrogations as part of its Global War on Terror. Human rights groups are calling for a fresh investigation and that those responsible be held accountable for any abuses of detainees as well as for the cover up. The U.S. government has acknowledged the existence of detention facilities overseas in the past, but has refused to disclose specific locations. U.S. leaders have also maintained that such facilities were legal.

(from a source)

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rockchalk1977 2 years, 4 months ago

Democratic lawmaker blasts "Professor Obama" as arrogant, alienating.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/cardozas-corner/198861-the-professorial-president

Obviously Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif.) is a racist for making these comments.

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Darrell Lea 2 years, 4 months ago

A friend who shared the article on Facebook said the following -

"Stop calling them the TeaParty...they are Republicans."

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TopJayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago

And not a soul said a word about oldvets post of all the posters by the goofballs in San Francisco...

Typical...Oldvet nailed 'em, so of course they do what they always do...ignore it, and not answer.

Libs are so cowardly. they cannot debate fairly, they call you names. Or just won't respond, happens to me all the time.

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Mike Ford 2 years, 4 months ago

People with no conscience and no concept of history make uninformed comments like yours. The history you so summarliy dismiss like an American immigrant is not that far in the past. Maybe you should try to get a tribe restored by an act of the US Congress with it's plenary powers vested in the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution as I've done with this tribe for almost a decade now. Maybe you should try to reach and educate this class of gop dimwits on what the US Government should be doing instead of what a denialistic uninformed misguided soon to be minority of people by 2050 want done in their race back to 1955 or 1925 or 1895. Your comment is typical of uniformed conservatives. Oh well....

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KS 2 years, 4 months ago

If it is a racist remark, which race is being insulted? The white one or the black? Hummm?

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Mike Ford 2 years, 4 months ago

gee rivercrow....been listening to Andy Rooney and his correct assumptions of history... or maybe George Will....old white guys always put up the I know everything front... couldn't be Bill O Reilly right.... why don't you study the Gnadenhutten Massacre of Christianized Munsee Indians in March 1782 by a Pennsylvania militia that didn't have the courage to attack the Shawnee, Delaware, and Wyandot warriors to the west and instead attacked pacifist Christian Munsees and tied their hands behind their backs and beat them to death. This was documented by the diaries of David Ziesberger who was the Moravian missionary who worked with them. Oh.... the descendants of these murdered Christian Indians live in this area so I'll put a face to the carnage. Sure... Americans know history....their mythical Apple Tree and Puritan history.

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OonlyBonly 2 years, 4 months ago

I'm really getting tired of, "If you don't like Obama you're a racist trash." I don't care what color he is. I only want him to do a better job than he has been.

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jaywalker 2 years, 4 months ago

While I hope we all hope there will come a day when the mentioning of colors doesn't devolve into a racism debate, I don't believe one can argue effectively the connotations in the 'satire' were not deliberate. Some might argue it's a true description or that the President himself utilized his ethnicity during his campaign, therefore it's a double standard; sorry, doesn't justify the depiction nor free it from the back-handed smear.
There have to be dozens of ways to illustrate a metaphor that ONLY says the President "stinks". In this day and age, may all hope soon it will pass, injecting race in any way was unnecessary unless you wanted to deride the race. This was most certainly racist.

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its_just_math 2 years, 4 months ago

That could explain Obama's economic policies. Thanks tusch for the info.

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Mike Ford 2 years, 4 months ago

what would one expect from the ethnically cleansed prairie......no Pawnee, Comanche, Kiowa, Kaw, or Osage mentioning....just the musings of the greatest offenders of all....those who say "Who Me???" say such things to get a rise because they have no intellect or any kind of intelligence to contribute to the conversation. For the record Mr. Obama's grandparents had a repair shop in Central Topeka and lived in Augusta and El Dorado and worked at Boeing. Mr. Obama's Dunham ancestors were Cherokee. I have Dunnam ancestors who went from the Carolinas to Mississippi in the early 1800's and were on the Dawes Rolls as Mississippi Choctaw rejected because they were actually Cherokee. The intelligent part of Kansas is always embarrassed by these people but what can one do...dumb people just don't listen....they keep embarrassing us....

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its_just_math 2 years, 4 months ago

Dear lord I love these topics! It's so refreshing to be reminded that the left---namely the hysterical uber-left---are the self-appointed arbiters of what is and what is not regarding polite and acceptable speech. The left is in fact, America's Arbiters for Free Speech. They somehow, and I don't know how they do it, are able to place speech into categories, and denounce it or exalt it or just rate it for it's usefulness or worthlessness. It's like magic and quite frankly, I'm impressed. As a matter of fact, we even have a forum member who is a self-proclaimed expert on free speech, plagairism, copyright infringement etc. It's almost as though this person got burned in a professional capacity for his/her work for some publication. This is very helpful to "police" the forum for trouble makers, who it turns out, are almost always a conservative trouble maker.

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BABBOY 2 years, 4 months ago

Of course it was racially based.

Have you see the red necks or lilly white nuts that make up the tea party?

I mean what do you expect from these nuts.

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sierraclub 2 years, 4 months ago

The funny part is that Obama is as much white as he is black.

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tange 2 years, 4 months ago

Varmint metaphors.

/ consider the source

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question4u 2 years, 4 months ago

"Local tea party supporter Chuck Sankey says former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has been the target of worse insults than what's on the website."

Sankey was unable to elaborate on his statement, apart from adding "neener-neener," because he had to finish his paper route then work on his spelling homework before supper.

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Gandalf 2 years, 4 months ago

Nothing wrong with saying President Obama is half-black and half-white. But the skunk stench is coming from teapubs.

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Bob_Keeshan 2 years, 4 months ago

So to recap: Obama, racially, is half black and half white. So that makes him a skunk.

If he were all black, he would be a monkey or perhaps a tar baby..

None of these, of course, is at all racist. Which is why white southerners used to use "skunk" to describe individuals classified as mulatto.

And everyone knows the last place one would ever find racism is in the American south.

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pace 2 years, 4 months ago

It is better to know them as sick racist bstd than those that pretend not to be and are. Sad that they want other people to pretend their denial of racism is accurate. In this case, it is racist. Instead of deny it's racism, it would be better if they denounced it themselves. If someone in my home did such a thing, they would know the outside of a firmly closed door. Let us call it another word, hate based on ethnicity.

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its_just_math 2 years, 4 months ago

Obama was the perfect guy. You don't like him; you make a slightly off color remark about him..BOOM! You're a racist. Libs today have mastered the art of hypocrisy. They call any group they're in opposition to a whole list of disparaging names, but you speak up negatively about The Anointed One and they're gonna go after you. Heck, one time I referred to this time (Obama's dismal presidency) as " a dark time" and that offended one particular extremist left Obama worshiper on this forum who said I used the word "dark" as a racial nuance, which was never even close to on my mind. This is the current state of paranoia and hysteria amongst the ranks of the unhinged left and some who claim to be "centrist" but have fooled noone.

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rockchalk1977 2 years, 4 months ago

As the leader of the flea world, the divider-in-chief Obama should have been depicted as a scrawny, unshaven miscreant OWS protester crawling out of a makeshift tent. But I guess that would be considered a "blatant statement of racism" as well.

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Armstrong 2 years, 4 months ago

@mudnuts

Nazi's, neocons, my personal favorite hatemongers, Tea baggers, wing nuts, I'm sure I left a few out. That's how the left rolls. You don't need to be amazed just open your eyes this is the daily vocabulary of the left. What is amazing is nobody crying about but...but... it's freedom of speech. So how many of the enlightened out there are ready to stick up for freedom of speech for the Tea party

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vuduchyld 2 years, 4 months ago

You want to improve the economy? through nothing but fiscal austerity? You've got it backwards, even the blind can see balanced budgets don't fix an economy

we need JOBS and GROWTH to heal the country and the deficit shrinks with more activity Like we balanced a budget under Billy C. Look at the facts, study history!

It's time to make public policy That's based on a realistic philosop Just because you pay taxes doesn't mean you're not free So please put down that effin glass of tea

(watch the video here!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmSh2qRHDnc

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vuduchyld 2 years, 4 months ago

Keep your tea away from me You've been drinkin, I can see I think I'll have a glass of lemonade Your slash and burn democracy Is not good public policy That tea is causing your intelligence to fade

(watch the music video here!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmSh2qRHDnc

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mudnuts 2 years, 4 months ago

Why is anyone amazed? This is how the Tea Party behaves and conducts business. They haven't a chance in 2012!

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FalseHopeNoChange 2 years, 4 months ago

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Jan Rolls 2 years, 4 months ago

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hedshrinker 2 years, 4 months ago

People with big ears ordinarily don't get lynched, told they can't live in certain areas, denied employment other than poorly paid work that nobody else will do, etc. People with skin color other than white, as well as people of certain faiths, sexual orientation, and even women do have those kinds of experiences solely based on that characteristic. Please don't trivialize the horrors of racism by comparing it to political cartoons poking fun at more benign attributes.

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mustrun80 2 years, 4 months ago

I love how there's no difference between Racist and Racial with Libs - when critiquing Republicans of course.

They said the same thing about cartoonist's depicting Obama with big ears. He does kind of have big ears - big deal - It's called caricature, which, unless you are incapable of understanding complex words and thoughts is totally different than racism. Libs getting upset about Obama caricature's with exaggerated ears (which they did with Bush too) reminds me a lot of the nutjobs in the middle east after (gasp!) a cartoonist drew Muhammad.

Funny Stuff.

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Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago

Interesting coincidence from Sullivan:

========== Don't you love that word "cleanse"? The current president is a devoted family man, devoid of any personal scandal, and a committed Christian, as his speeches and books testify to. And this must be "cleansed"? The reason is that Obama represents a more liberal and live-and-let-live version of Christianity, and believes in the separation of church and state. That's what needs to be cleansed (assuming we are not talking bald-faced racism here). ==========

Source: "The Evangelicals' Catholic" http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/the-evangelicals-catholic.html

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kawrivercrow 2 years, 4 months ago

It was the 'half-white' comment that really made the race-baiters' heads spin.

BTW - remember the dense flurry of funny pics going around the internet from 2000-2008 depicting comparisons of GWB's funny little chimp-like face to a funny little chimp? Can anybody explain why I can't do that today without getting a bunch of R-words* flung at me?

  • R-word: The use of the term 'racist' as a slur in lieu of a real argument. Similar to the N-word (nazi). Often used by frustrated ideologues who are unable to muster cogent arguments to support their otherwise inarguable positions
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verity 2 years, 4 months ago

Racist or not, can we get past this ignorant stupidity (I was going to say childish, but then realized I was insulting children) and talk about the issues? We are in serious trouble. We need to figure out how we can clean up our political system to make it represent the people and how we are going to provide jobs so people can take care of themselves, among other vital things. Hurling insults at each other is going backwards, not forwards.

There are certain people who come on here solely to agitate. They never have anything of substance to say. By answering them you are only giving them what they want---attention and the power to upset you. Please just ignore them. They may not go away, but we can keep them from setting the agenda for our conversations.

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yourworstnightmare 2 years, 4 months ago

The caption said "Half-black, half white, and everything it does stinks".

This is certainly a reference to Obama's racial composition. Racism is a difficult thing to demonstrate, but there can be a strong case made by circumstantial argument building.

If you don't want to be called racist it might be a good idea to avoid making racial references, even as a joke.

Racist or stupid? You be the judge.

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jonas_opines 2 years, 4 months ago

"Local tea party supporter Chuck Sankey says former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has been the target of worse insults than what's on the website."

I love this common logic. "Since somebody else did something bad, then so can I!" Daily occurrence here on the Journal World, just about. Hell, it's about all that one or two posters can ever bring themselves to say.

"half black, half white, and almost everything it does stinks."

People can criticize the President without being racist (although some seem, from time to time, to disagree with that statement), but when you follow with a line like that, it makes it pretty hard to see anything else. If you decide to throw colors in, then don't be surprised when people say you're being driven by color.

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Liberty275 2 years, 4 months ago

I see no reason to insult skunks by comparing them to a liar.

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Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago

Here's a more informative article on the incident:

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/tea-party-calls-obama-a-skunk-half-black-half-white-and-stinks/politics/2011/12/12/31674#.TuYaUkrZfcg

As stated at the end of the article, it's a carbon copy of a post/submission from another web site, more than 18 months ago:

http://obamaforwards.com/CategoryView,category,skunk.aspx

The Kansas web site no longer has the skunk on their front page. If it's not racist, and if it is a correct form of satire, why remove it?

http://patriotfreedomalliance.org/default.aspx

I'm not surprised by the copying. Regular visitors to this web site, especially long-time members in good standing, have seen this kind of desperate plagiarism deployed by one or two extremist trolls, time and time and time again. It could even be argued that plagiarism has shifted from something that was once "tolerated" to something that's "encouraged" on LJWorld.com.

But isn't that how it usually is with extremists? Lack of original content, lack of original thinking... lack of ideas?

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Scut Farkus 2 years, 4 months ago

Nobody cares about the tea party anymore. They will soon be a footnote in American Politics.

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bobberboy 2 years, 4 months ago

these people are nothing more than koch brother pawns.

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pace 2 years, 4 months ago

The tea party isn't racists, some of them just look and sound racist. I do agree, some tea party members aren't racists, homophobics or armed.

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FalseHopeNoChange 2 years, 4 months ago

White Liberals and their made up words like racism. Now they want skunks protected. In a way I agree with them. Skunks are a vital contributor to the ecosystem. Disparaging Skunks because of their fur color is wrong.

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lawrencenerd 2 years, 4 months ago

So because somebody insulted Sarah Palin it is ok to be racist? Not seeing the logic there....

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labmonkey 2 years, 4 months ago

There we go again, throwing the race card. All these false charges of racism will eventually blind us to true racism.

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