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Boy killed after being struck by vehicle

September 3, 2010

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— A 7-year-old boy has died after being struck by an SUV while crossing a street outside a northeast Kansas school.

The accident happened shortly after 3:30 p.m. Thursday outside Madison Elementary School in Gardner.

KCTV reports Gardner police identified the boy as Kade M. Meyer, a second-grader at the elementary school and son of a vice principal at Gardner-Edgerton High School.

Police said the boy came out from between two vehicles on the roadside and was crossing the street when he was hit by the SUV. A crosswalk with a guard is located at an intersection about 200 yards from where the child was crossing the road.

Kade was taken to Olathe Medical Center, where he died.

Comments

cleifer 4 years, 6 months ago

Coming from you, cheeseburger, none of the poignancy is lost.

jayhawkgirl_2007 4 years, 6 months ago

This is so tragic. Just this morning, I was at the place where the bus picks up my 5 year old. A shiny SUV was waiting impatiently for the bus to move on. Then all of a sudden whips around the bus to travel 5 feet TO GET TO A CAR WASH! My ex-husband confronted the very much older driver of the vehicle. There was no remorse just justification from the driver.

anneht 4 years, 6 months ago

What a misleading headline! The boy was not "killed" - he died as a result of the accident.... headline sounds like someone took him out and shot him. Condolences to the family.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

dude, get some bran in your diet & calm down.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Uhm, you know this happened in Gardner, right? Not everyone lives within walking distact of these country schools. A friend of mine drives 10 miles to Gardner to drop her children off. It's not the worst thing to ever happen. This is not the result of a communist agenda - this is a tradgedy. Relax.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

How many "local" schools do you think we should have in a state as spread out as Kansas? Or should we not allow people to live in the country, so they can all live on top of each other and walk everywhere?

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Some poeple can't see there neighbor's house.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

lol, the bus. When I grew up in the country I rode an hour both ways. And, it's a bus a motorized vehicle that you are so against?

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

But, if I live in the country and work in town, why would I pay hundreds of dollars for a bus to take my children to school when I can do it myself?

Ken Harris 4 years, 6 months ago

Because sending one bus to the school is better than sending 50 cars.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes, we did educate in a one room school house. However, not all kids attended everyday and some kids never attended. And "almost an entire nation" was nowhere near as populated as we are now. People grew their own food and dreamed of a day of getting off the farm. And, now we can. I don't know what 5 acre spread your refering to, but my friend does live on a farm, and drives her kids into town so they can go to school. In Gardner. Are you wanting to slow down the growth of America and take us back to those one room schoolhouse days?

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

No, I havn't bought into that. My ancestors organized, ran and taught at a one room school house in what was once Red Top, Oklahoma. And, I've heard the stories about how hard it was for kids to get to school, stay in school, and get further education. There was also a story about children being killed due to the dust bowl on the way home from school. I guess those kids should have been homeschooled as well. In fact, none of us should be allowed to leave the house if the slightest possibility of danger exists. Ever.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Yes, things were wonderful back then and there was nothing to complain about at all. You would have been so miserable.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Things are better now than they were then. There is always going to be room for improvement, but looking back does not move us forward.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

This is horribly tragic. Although, it seems to me as if everyone is jumping to a lot of conclusions. The article says nothing about speed, or that it even played a factor. Even when driving 20 mph, if a child darts out in front of you unexpectedly, the best you can do is hit your brakes and hope for the best. To assume automatically that the driver was breaking a law, speeding, or otherwise caused this horrible thing to occur just makes things worse. It's probably better to wait and see what really happened. Can you imagine how horrible this driver must feel, or how you would feel?? Especially if you were doing everything "right".

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

You sound like you have an axe to grind. I just hope for your sake you're grinding it against the right person. People who rant and rave like this when so completely uninformed of the actual facts sound a bit nutty.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

No. I just don't understand why you're so angry about this, and/or why you assume there is liability when none has been shown. I'm not "defending" anyone because, in our system of justice, people are innocent until proven guilty. Considering the article didn't even mention speed AT ALL, I merely pointed out that you're likely jumping to conclusions that might be very, very wrong. Yes, kids are free to act like kids. And we adults are allowed to drive. Did you know the overall stoping distance for an alert individual driving the average car at 10 mph is 21 feet? Yeah. 21 feet. 5 mph? approximately 10. My point is that you can be doing everything correct and accidents still happen.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

Way to not answer a question. So, you're angry just to be angry, and when you don't have an answer, you resort to insults. A weak position if you ask me. So, why don't you enlighten us. Beyond driving alertly, defensively, and within the speed limit, what additional responsibilities does a driver have under the law?

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

Again, you didn't answer my question. Is it possible that you could?

Truthspeaker 4 years, 6 months ago

Question, Jack: Is it hard to breathe all the way up there on your high horse?

We get it, we get it. Everyone but you is an idiot. You are the smartest and best driver in the history of existence and rest of us are little more than mentally challenged chimps comparatively.

There are an amazing amount of conclusions you've jumped to that just aren't reported in this story. Why not wait to get the whole story instead of making an *** out of yourself by making assumptions? Unless you've got some sort of inside information, what you seem to think you "know" may or may not be accurate.

Practicality 4 years, 6 months ago

Having seen first hand the nightmare which is elementary school pick up, I can only hope people traverse at a snails speed around elementary schools. Kids that age are unpredictable, it is best to not even pretend that kids will cross at a crosswalk for the sake of safety.

My condolences to the family.

Reader2 4 years, 6 months ago

Prayers to Kade's family and the woman who hit him. I went to school with Kade's dad and can't imagine how Mark and his family feel.

Kris_H 4 years, 6 months ago

What a terrible tragedy. My heart aches for his family and friends.

There are two things I can say, neither of which has any real bearing on this because I don't have all the information.

First, people should of course always be more aware around schools. Always! They make me nervous and I sometimes drive out of my way to stay away from them.

Second, kids should of course look both ways, then look both ways again before stepping into the street, and should stay in the crosswalks. Please, this is not blaming the victim, just hoping maybe some kid will think twice and it won't happen to them too.

And all you people making this into someplace to hash out your political agendas yet again, even by way of deliberate hyperbole and sarcasm, make me sick to death.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Riiiight, because teaching children to look both ways is beyond their mental capacity. And, cross at the crosswalk is to complicated for a school aged child.

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ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

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ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

If you die of food poisoning have you also been murdered by "our system"? What about if slip and fall in a store and craxk your head open? What if you're biking to work and wreck your bike?

Seamus, I think the point Kris was trying to make is that a child died, and this isn't an environmental thread. Period. Additionally, using the "our system" model....EVERYTHING is part of the system. Change is possible, avoiding tragedy is not. So trying to use a tragedy to prop up a political position is unseemly.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

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Kris_H 4 years, 6 months ago

A child is dead. I might feel the same way you do about "the system," but you are too busy categorizing me as "people like (that)" to find that out.

My point, as ThatGirl2 understands, is that I think it's worse than unseemly to make this about politics. But do as you will, it's your sorry little world.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

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ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

Oooooh, you meant these questions (which I assumed were rhetorical): Do you expect a cookie because you're doing some fun run? Are you driving to go do this thing? Do you walk or run or cycle for basic transportation or are you the kind that has to wear special tribal garb to make sure people don't think you're too poor to afford a car?

Okay, okay, unlike you, I'm not afraid of questions, and don't try to constantly redirect to "my position" lest I get confused and accidentally go off message. So, here goes:

  1. Do you expect a cookie because you're doing some fun run? A cookie? No, I try to stay away from cookies on the whole.

  2. Are you driving to go do this thing? Nope. Walking. The start is only 3/4 of a mile from my front door.

  3. Do you walk or run or cycle for basic transportation or are you the kind that has to wear special tribal garb to make sure people don't think you're too poor to afford a car? I admit that I don't understand the second part of this question, so I can't answer the "tribal garb" part--I don't know what that is. But to answer the first part--I don't run for transportation--I do for sport. Running to work would get me there rather sweaty. I do bike on occasion, but not everyday. I probably am too poor to afford a car. Luckily, I have a company vehicle. So, if people think I can't afford one, they might be right!

Anything else you would like to know?

geekyhost 4 years, 6 months ago

This boy was killed by an SUV.

SUVs sit higher and make it harder to see pedestrians, especially short pedestrians who might be exuberantly darting out from between a couple of cars. They're also generally less maneuverable and take up more space on the road, making an impact more likely. They're not the only car capable of hitting and killing a pedestrian, certainly, but they sure make it easier.

I feel bad for both the family of the victim and the driver, but I do understand why people blame SUVs as being part of the problem here.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 6 months ago

There is another problem in that a head impact is more likely with some vehicles than others. With a smaller car that is lower to the ground and some luck, a pedestrian can possibly go up and over the hood without a blunt force trauma to the head, which is a really serious problem.

I personally know a man that actually hit a child in a school zone, and the child went up and over the hood, and smashed his windshield.

I don't know why, but the child's mother insisted that her child was fine, grabbed him, and took off real quick. I'm sure glad the kid was at least somewhat OK, but I'm very sure the mother had something to hide.

puddleglum 4 years, 6 months ago

Now it is just my observation and certainly not scientifically fact; but it seems the overwhelming majority of SUV drivers are women talking on their cell phone, trying desperately to drive that 2-ton pile of junk like the little honda or toyota that they used to drive when they were younger. these big piles of crap brake poorly, handle worse, and like others continue to point out: they have poor if not horrible vision.

My heart goes out to the family.
Your child is now in a safe place-and is happy there.

redmorgan 4 years, 6 months ago

OMG what a horrible, tragic accident. I can't even imagine... My thoughts are with the family and friends of this little boy.

Armored_One 4 years, 6 months ago

Wherever you are going will still be there. Slow down, actually pay attention and look for movement, not just pretty trees and flowers, and throw the damned phone out the window.

I piss people off routinely on Elm Street when I actually drive over to pick my daughter up from school. I love just idling from 5th street to 6th street. I have actually heard them gun their engines the instant I move out of the way. Although, taking my camcorder up and standing at the corner gets me flipped off frequently, also.

Granted, my daughter also knows, and actually does every single time, to stop and look both ways more than once everytime she crosses the street, regardless of where we are. Kind of funny watching a 6 year old chewing out a 30something year old about how it's dangerous to just walk out and having a whole pack of the little yard apes chime in on it as well. LOL

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

I'm a soccer mom now?? I don't even have kids! I better get to work.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

I think if you actually engaged in a dialouge your comments would stick around. Just a hunch. Stop acting like a radical, respond thoughtfully to questions, and discuss instead of attack. It works pretty well.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

You haven't debated with me all day. You just avoided legitimate questions and repeated a mantra. "Cars are bad, people suck." Oh well. Perhaps someday you will understand that to make a point, and therefore, a change, you have to deign yourself lowly enough to attempt being thoughtful, or engaging in discussions. Without that, you simply seem like an overbearing fanatical brute. And I'm sure that wasn't your intention. Because if it is, you're nothing but a hypocrite--not after change, just an opportunity to insult and criticize.

ThatGirl2 4 years, 6 months ago

No, I understood your words. That's why I asked follow up questions. To which you responded "why should I answer your questions?" And I guess if you don't want me to understand your point of view, not answering is a good way to start. You're right. Your response, or lack of response, did turn me off.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

This comment was appropriate for the conversation that was being had, but now it just looks lonely in a string of removed comments. I go back to what I said about bad things happening to good people and that blame is not always necessary.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 6 months ago

I grew up in a very small town in western Kansas where everyone knew each other. There was a PTA meeting one night, and everyone was at school and visiting the classrooms that we would be going to when we got older, like old enough to be in third grade.

The year was 1962, and suddenly the word got passed around that the PTA meeting was over, and everyone went home in a very quiet way. I wasn't told a thing at the time, and I don't think very many of the kids were told anything that night. The parents just quietly took all the kids home.

Later I learned that a classmate's younger brother had stepped in front of a car and had been killed right in front of the school during the PTA meeting.

It's been 38 years ago now, and no one has ever forgotten him. He was only 4 years old.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

Wow, this thread went total SHOEMAKER when I wasn't looking.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

I'll be sure to wave when I drive by your cave.

scopi_guy 4 years, 6 months ago

This is neither the time nor the place for your antics. Show some respect.

scopi_guy 4 years, 6 months ago

If you feel so strongly about something, create your own blog. Use rational wording and you might just change some minds. You won't do it this way. Don't muck up a story about the death of a child. That's really tasteless.

scopi_guy 4 years, 6 months ago

This isn't the place for arguing, or do you just not comprehend any type of propriety?

What's wrong with starting your own blog? That would take too much time and effort and you'd have to put more into it than just ranting away?

And what makes you think that I don't like what you say. It's amazing how people jump to conclusions.

I'm simply asking you to take this elsewhere.

Linda Aikins 4 years, 6 months ago

I know how these threads get totally out of control and sometimes just plain nasty. Thank you JW for keeping on top of this.

To the family and the driver, I can't and don't want to imagine the pain they feel over this. I am so sorry for you.

mbulicz 4 years, 6 months ago

Major kudos to the LJWorld.com staff for removing the trollfest that took place in the comments.

Thoughts and prayers to all involved. This is so tragic.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

Are you gathering your manifesto & preparing to storm Ford's headquarters in the near future, jackie?

Deja Coffin 4 years, 6 months ago

My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved especially Kade's family. May you find some kind of peace in light of this horrible tragedy.

grammaddy 4 years, 6 months ago

Jeez! There are more removed posts here than I've ever seen on any thread. Looks like there were an awful lot of nasty remarks made. My prayers go out to the family and friends of this little boy and the driver.

jonas_opines 4 years, 6 months ago

Damn, this must have been one ugly thread. I assume that most of those removals either were from, or perhaps responding (quoting), a single poster?

Didn't this site start a preapproval feature for comments on sensitive articles? Did that not go over well enough?

Christine Anderson 4 years, 6 months ago

Poor baby. People making nasty comments, watch your mouth. Bottom line is, a precious child is gone. The second I read the headline, I felt sick to my stomach. This incident brings back horrible memories of my son's best friend being killed years ago.

notyourmom 4 years, 6 months ago

Jack through everything including the kitchen sink at the wall to see what would stick, and LJW removed most of it.

Beth Bird 4 years, 6 months ago

What a sad story! I feel horrible for his family and the driver of the car. I am appalled at how many posts had to be removed on this article due to violation of the policies. You should be ashamed of yourselves. A child died. Keep your rude remarks to yourself.

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 6 months ago

This is probably way off topic, but it is clearly stated that this is an Associated Press story, and not a JWorld story. I think it would probably be a violation of copyright law for the JWorld staff to change it.

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

absolutely tragic, my take away = remember school zones have children about, slow down, way down. esp if parking is allowed on either side of street.

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