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Moran, Tiahrt argue over health care repeal

July 7, 2010

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— U.S. Rep. Jerry Moran's main rival for a U.S. Senate seat from Kansas is challenging Moran's right to call himself the first House member to introduce a bill to repeal the new federal health care law.

Republican Rep. Todd Tiahrt's campaign on Wednesday cited another bill — co-sponsored by Tiahrt — introduced the same day as Moran's legislation. Both measures were introduced in March, the day after final passage of the law pushed by President Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats.

Tiahrt spokesman Michelle Schroeder acknowledged that Moran's bill was assigned its number first. But she said that distinction is meaningless and suggested the real issue is Moran portraying himself as a leader of opposition to the health care law.

"Todd is out front. Todd is a leader," Schroeder said. "Jerry is in the background."

Moran spokesman Dan Conston took the Tiahrt campaign's criticism as a sign of desperation from a candidate who's significantly behind in Aug. 3 primary contest.

"There's any number of things — ridiculous accusations — made all the time," Conston said. "This one seems particularly ridiculous."

Tiahrt and Moran are seeking the Senate seat held by Sam Brownback, a conservative Republican who's running for governor. Tiahrt has held the 4th Congressional District seat for south-central Kansas since 1995, and Moran has represented the 1st District of western and central Kansas since 1997.

Also on the GOP ballot are Mound City accountant Tom Little and Overland Park attorney Robert Londerholm, who served as Kansas attorney general in 1965-69. Five Democrats are running, but none is as well-known or well-financed as Tiahrt or Moran, and a Democrat hasn't won a Senate seat in Kansas since 1932.

Moran and Tiahrt have been wooing tea party participants and running hard to the right — and both have called for the repeal of the federal health care law. Among other things, it mandates that most Americans buy health insurance, starting in 2014.

Moran's latest television ad mentions his legislation to repeal the law, and he staked his claim on being first Tuesday night during his first televised debate with Tiahrt.

"I was the first member of the House of Representatives to introduce legislation to repeal Obamacare," Moran said.

As soon as the debate ended, Tiahrt's staff distributed a memo headlined, "Moran's Healthcare Repeal Claim -- BUSTED."

The memo noted that both Moran's bill and one sponsored by Rep. Michele Bachmann, a Minnesota Republican and tea party favorite, were introduced March 22.

Moran had no co-sponsors when he introduced his bill, but 12, including Bachmann, later joined him. Tiahrt was among 11 co-sponsors on Bachmann's bill when she introduced it; the measure now has 59.

Moran's measure is HR 4901, while Bachmann's is HR 4903.

"It's not like Moran's entire campaign push is that we were first by an hour or a day," Conston said. "This is not a central issue of our campaign."

Since March, Tiahrt and his aides have criticized Moran for not being active enough in the House's final debate on health care. Tiahrt said Tuesday evening that he stayed in the House chamber for 11 hours, while Moran left to shoot a campaign video.

"You've got to take the fight to the liberals — take the fight to the House leadership, the Democrats there," Tiahrt said.

Moran and his staff said he left the chamber to join protesters outside the Capitol. Later, Conston said, a short, hand-held video appeared on Moran's Web site as an update.

Moran said during his debate with Tiahrt that he'd spoken many times against the health care bill and any suggestion he wasn't active was a "crazy allegation." Conston noted that Moran has served as a chairman of the House's bipartisan rural health care coalition.

"He was actively involved on health care issues and rural health care issues well before this year," Conston said.

Comments

kusp8 4 years, 5 months ago

Who the F cares!? Seriously, what a joke.

Clark Coan 4 years, 5 months ago

Well, if the Dems lose congress this fall, the Reps may well repeal the law. After all, 60% of Americans (and 69% of Kansans) want it repealed. The "I've got mine and I want yours" philosophy is widespread and contrary to true Christian values.

The_Bends 4 years, 5 months ago

Perhaps it should read:

“I got mine, with money borrowed from future generations. Now—that I qualify for entitlements like Medicare—I’ll get more of mine, while simultaneously complaining about the public debt.”

thatonedude 4 years, 5 months ago

Which Americans are you talking about? Don't get me wrong, I know there are plenty, but that number seems a bit high (and let's not get into the irrelevancy of "Christian values" to government policy, please).

texburgh 4 years, 5 months ago

More proof that Republicans just don't think you should have health care unless you are wealthy. Their health care plan for the rest of us: If you get sick, die quickly and save a few bucks.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

Tiahrt spokesman Michelle Schroeder acknowledged that Moran's bill was assigned its number first. But she said that distinction is meaningless and suggested the real issue is Moran portraying himself as a leader of opposition to the health care law.

"Todd is out front. Todd is a leader," Schroeder said. "Jerry is in the background."

Moran spokesman Dan Conston took the Tiahrt campaign's criticism as a sign of desperation from a candidate who's significantly behind in Aug. 3 primary contest.

---Oh for the love of God! Todd and Jerry and your staffs: I will be voting for one of you in the primary and November. however both of you need to have your heads banged together! the quote at the top of my post illustrates the frustration that I and other conservatives feel about you both!

yes, we must repeal the health care debacle. if it were in effect ten years ago, I'd be dead now, three times over.
the two of you have worked together in congress. the overlap between your voting records is very high!

you two need to stop campaigning like the uncivil liberals.

you are conservatives.

now act like conservatives.

shame on you.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 5 months ago

I would not vote for either one of these two morons. Who is the Democrat running against them? I want to send him/her money.

DRsmith 4 years, 5 months ago

Well considering one of these 2 will be the next senator from KS, I would suggest you save your money. Or better yet, perhaps you should donate it to someone who can't afford health care.

average 4 years, 5 months ago

Early this year, I had intended to register GOP for the primary, knowing that at least Moran was better than Tiahrt. After this campaign, and after some of Moran's mailings (why, I, a registered Dem and Obama supporter in Lawrence, got Moran's red-meat and dog-whistle mailings is beyond me), I can't bring myself to do it. Still would rather not have Tiahrt. But, the main advantage for Moran is that he might not be a 'Meet the Press' regular embarrassment along the lines of Rick Santorum. Doesn't really matter at this point, because Gov. Brownback will be enough national embarrassment that Tiahrt won't add much more.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 5 months ago

There is little to no difference between the two. Their votes have been identical.

Republicans have little history since 1979 of voting independently or across the aisle. No matter what they say they go back to Washington and vote party line. Party line is the Bush family of politicians tight control of the party.

Between 2001 - 2009 11 million americans lost their jobs under the Bush admin according to radio news. Tuesday radio news implied 16-20 million are either under employed or unemployed. This will not sustain the USA.

For some reason Reagan/Bush and Bush/Cheney have documented history with large scale failures of financial institutions during their tenures. The savings and loan failures and Wall Street bank failures cost people not only their jobs but retirement plans as well.

Social Security and Medicare have been a godsend to many who lost so much through no fault of their own. Leave both alone for obvious reasons. Does ENRON ring any bells? Social Security = food on the table.

What has the repub party done to replace 11 million jobs? NOTHING

What plan do the republicans have to replace 11 million job? No plan

In my estimation the party that put 11 million out of work yet says to any new idea or plan any new administration puts forth is the obstacle to new industry,new jobs and new economic growth.

If tax cuts were the key to creating new jobs and economic growth it is likely that very few in America would be unemployed today. Plenty of tax cuts have taken place over the past 30 years.

What we've seen instead is so many USA corporations send USA jobs to support other governments and leave USA blue and white collar workers in the unemployment line. So much for tax cuts. Can WE say wreckanomics?

All of the above represents the republican party that which is tightly controlled by the Bush family of politicians. War,blood,oil wars and no more new industry or jobs.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 5 months ago

"In my estimation the party that put 11 million out of work, yet says NO to any new idea or plan any new administration puts forth is the obstacle to new industry,new jobs and new economic growth."

slight correction....

Mary Sucha 4 years, 5 months ago

Wouldn't it be refreshing to have candidates that didn't spend all their time pandering to bottom feeders of their base.

I wish someone would ask these two if they support the repeal of medicare. They and their supporters are obviously opposed to any government involvement in health care.

However, I would bet that these to representatives purchase their health insurance through the federal government rather than purchasing is privately.

Janet Lowther 4 years, 5 months ago

I'm getting sick of candidates for senate running on a platform of obstruction.

Brownback got the nomination over his appointed predecessor promising to "Give Clinton a migraine."

While I don't believe government has the capability of doing much worthwhile, the rhetoric of obstruction these guys are using is just plain objectionable.

Clark Coan 4 years, 5 months ago

Kansas used to have moderate Republicans until around 1990 when the party was captured by the Religious Right. The anti-abortion protests in Wichita around then had something to do with it.

Sen. Brownback, when first elected, was described by the National Journal as the most conservative member of the Senate. We are talking Extreme Far Right. As governor he'll be the most conservative governor since the 1920s and possibly the 1880s. It's not going to be pretty, folks.

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