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Kansas House committee set to debate Thursday whether federal government has become too intrusive

February 23, 2010

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— A Kansas House committee is taking up a states' rights resolution declaring that the federal government has become too intrusive.

The Judiciary Committee plans a hearing Thursday afternoon on the nonbinding measure, which already has been adopted by the Senate.

The resolution declares that Kansas is claiming its sovereignty under the U.S. Constitution's 10th Amendment. The amendment says powers not specifically granted to the federal government are reserved for states.

The resolution demands the repeal of federal laws compelling states to take certain actions or lose federal funds.

The measure is addressed to President Barack Obama, congressional leaders and members of Kansas' congressional delegation.

Comments

John Kyle 4 years, 10 months ago

What a frickin' waste of time and my money. Idiots.

tolawdjk 4 years, 10 months ago

If you are going to do it, at least have the testicular fortitude to do it in something other than a "nonbinding measure". Either you believe it or you don't. At the end of the day, nothing will have changed except a few good ole boys will slap each other on the back and puff their chests.

This current batch of legislators couldn't legislate thems selves out of a dung heap.

headdoctor 4 years, 10 months ago

tolawdjk (anonymous) says... If you are going to do it, at least have the testicular fortitude to do it in something other than a "nonbinding measure". Either you believe it or you don't. At the end of the day, nothing will have changed except a few good ole boys will slap each other on the back and puff their chests. This current batch of legislators couldn't legislate thems selves out of a dung heap.


Of course they can't. They are the dung heap. The same bunch of idiots will get voted back in. Want to take bets that people like Otto will get another term? That is pretty much the mentality of most of them.

Finn12 4 years, 10 months ago

The federal government IS a waste of time and money.

Do we as Kansans want to keep paying for Massachusetts' universal health care? Do California's needs match Kansas' needs?

If you answered "yes", then why don't you just hand over what's left of your Constitutional rights and move to Washington D.C.?

Joe Hyde 4 years, 10 months ago

They're 30 years too late with this idea. But then, they probably don't look at banking deregulation followed by a 500 billion savings & loan scandal requiring a public tax dollar bailout (happened under Reagan) as government intrusion. Or Reagan's compelling all the states to raise their legal drinking age to 21, else face total loss of federal highway funding -- no intrusion into states rights there, either. Or Bush/Cheney's deliberate lies that sold the Iraq War to the American public at a horrendous ongoing cost in American lives lost and loss of national wealth. Or Bush's Patriot Act, which lets the federal government do pretty much anything it wants to invade anyone's privacy without judicial review and warrant.

Yeah, these Republican legislators really dislike government intrusion. Unless, that is, they're the ones doing the intruding.

headdoctor 4 years, 10 months ago

riverat (Joe Hyde) says... Yeah, these Republican legislators really dislike government intrusion. Unless, that is, they're the ones doing the intruding.


Yup. I have always stuck to the idea that the difference between the Democrats and Republicans was this. The Democrats want to do it for you and the Republicans want to do it to you. I really haven't seen much that disproves this thought.

Joe Hyde 4 years, 10 months ago

Interesting point, headdoctor. But consider this recent history:

President Clinton (Democrat) leaves office in the year 2000 with a 200 billion surplus sitting in the U.S. Treasury, and no wars. President Bush (Republican) leaves office in the year 2008 with the nation ensnarled in two wars and taxpayers bogged in a staggering national debt -- much of that debt owed to China, the world's largest communist dictatorship.

Which did you prefer -- Democrats doing for you, or Republicans doing to you?

Bob_Keeshan 4 years, 10 months ago

Keep the government out of my Medicare.

jonas_opines 4 years, 10 months ago

Headdoctor: I think they should have two mirroring slogans.

Reps: Out of your business and into your bedroom. Dems vice versa.

Dems: Socialized welfare not socialized war. reps vice versa.

madameX 4 years, 10 months ago

"""""The resolution demands the repeal of federal laws compelling states to take certain actions or lose federal funds."""""


This reminds me of when I was in grade school and wanted my allowance but didn't want to wash the dishes to get it. You can't have it both ways, guys. Any money you accept from anyone is generally accepted on their terms, be it an employer, a lender, a donor, etc. Choosing not to accept that money because you don't like the terms would be one thing, and if those terms are unreasonable or abusive that's a whole new story, but passing a resolution that says "We want to keep using federal funding, but with no strings attached" sounds to me like a pretty weak stance. If they were really serious about this they'd be figuring out how to do without federal funding, thus eliminating the need to take certain actions.

headdoctor 4 years, 10 months ago

riverat (Joe Hyde) says... Interesting point, headdoctor. But consider this recent history: President Clinton (Democrat) leaves office in the year 2000 with a 200 billion surplus sitting in the U.S. Treasury, and no wars. President Bush (Republican) leaves office in the year 2008 with the nation ensnarled in two wars and taxpayers bogged in a staggering national debt -- much of that debt owed to China, the world's largest communist dictatorship. Which did you prefer -- Democrats doing for you, or Republicans doing to you?


Actually I prefer neither. It seems when the Democrats do it for me they are talking money from me to give to someone else and when the Republicans do it to me they are taking my money and putting it in their and their buddies' pockets. The outcome is slightly different but the effect on me is very similar.

As far as budget surplus during Clinton's time, there was never a surplus in reality and that money wasn't just setting in the treasury. That was smoke and mirror bookkeeping. The economy was better during that time but things like financing long term debt with short term bonds to get the cheaper interest rate wasn't the greatest idea and did comeback to bite us in the butt.

Bob_Keeshan 4 years, 10 months ago

Special education funding is a federal mandate.

Keep the government out of my public schools.

headdoctor 4 years, 10 months ago

jonas_opines (anonymous) says... Headdoctor: I think they should have two mirroring slogans. Reps: Out of your business and into your bedroom. Dems vice versa. Dems: Socialized welfare not socialized war. reps vice versa.


ROFLMAO

canusayduh 4 years, 10 months ago

That is a hoot!! Kansas legislature accusing the federal government of being too intrusive, when they themselves are trying to pass a measure (that is binding) saying I can't get a divorce in the manner I might choose. Only in America!!! Gotta love it!

jehovah_bob 4 years, 10 months ago

This plays well into the new liquor tax proposal. Imagine how much more alcohol would be purchased by 18-20 year olds if it were legal.

parrothead8 4 years, 10 months ago

Finn12 (anonymous) says... Do we as Kansans want to keep paying for Massachusetts' universal health care? Do California's needs match Kansas' needs?

If you're going to claim that our tax dollars fund Massachusetts state health programs, at least have the decency to recognize that a state with almost three times the annual economic output of Kansas probably pays far more in federal tax dollars to help other states...including Kansas. I have a feeling Massachusetts may feel the same way about Kansas as you do about Massachusetts.

maxcrabb 4 years, 10 months ago

The people need to let the Kansas government know they've become too intrusive.

Bob_Keeshan 4 years, 10 months ago

The federal government has intruded on Kansas rights by running a two four lane highways through the heart of our state on land that should rightfully be owned by private Kansans.

Destroy the federally funded Interstate highways and restore freedom to Kansas.

I 70 and I 35 must be dismantled by the end of the year or the Legislature will have no choice but to organize the militia.

somedude20 4 years, 10 months ago

The Kansas House would not be able to waste such time if they had more things like novelty lighters and k2 to ban. Please, someone email them a new list of stupid things to ban so that they can be productive again. If the House really needs to do something with their hands, I suggest masterbation as it would be less painful to us taxpayers

middle_america 4 years, 10 months ago

I just wanted to share some interesting statistics from the tax foundation in washington d.c.. The average per capita state and local tax burden for the nation as a whole was 9.7% in 2008. For Kansas it was 9.6%, and Massachusetts 9.5%. In other words Massachusetts has a lower tax burden than Kansas. From the US census in 2006-2007 the national average per pupil spending was $9,666. Kansas spent $8,988 and Massachusetts spent $12,738. So Massachusetts has lower taxes, universal health coverage and spends more on education. Maybe the republicans are right; we don't need to raise taxes. Maybe we just need to rearrange our spending priorities and find out where the money is really going. Maybe we need to elect a legistlature that will tackle the real problems that we have.

yourworstnightmare 4 years, 10 months ago

More idiotic shenanigans from the do-nothing Kansas legislature.

Never have so many done so little when so much as needed to be done.

Interstates and military bases. All intrusions of the federal government in Kansas.

Thinking_Out_Loud 4 years, 10 months ago

And if the Federal Government fails to take proper notice of this nonbinding resolution, what is the remedy? Secession? That's been tried, to ill effect.

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