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Kan. gov.-elect Sam Brownback’s tax plan aims to lure outsiders

December 21, 2010

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— Kansas Gov.-elect Sam Brownback says he's propose a tax plan next year that's aimed at luring people to rural communities from other states.

Brownback said Tuesday during an interview with The Associated Press that he'll present a plan that's targeted at bringing residents to counties that have lost population over the past 20 years.

He said a key part of that plan would allow people who move from other states to those counties to avoid paying state income taxes for 10 years. He said counties will have the option of participating.

The Republican takes office Jan. 10. He also said he's working on a plan to have state and counties buy down student loans of college graduates who move to such communities.

Comments

Richard Heckler 3 years, 12 months ago

It's called higher local taxes = corporate welfare = big government socialism!!!!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 12 months ago

This is ridiculous. People have moved/are moving from these areas for specific reasons having mostly to do with the collapse of small family farming. Giving income tax breaks for moving into areas in which there is no available source of income is pointless, and will have no effect.

geekyhost 3 years, 12 months ago

Exactly. Kansas taxes are low enough already to not be a big consideration in where to move.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 12 months ago

Good point. I can see how this could be a useful subsidy to the Koch brothers when they want to move an employee into some backwater area.

Stuart Evans 3 years, 12 months ago

lure them in with our brand new cannabis tourism industry! Cannabis for Kansas 2012!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 12 months ago

Yes, Tom, we all know that the only thing that matters to you is that "your team" wins.

But your inherent superficiality explains well why your posts are so frequent. You really think that that will make up for your vacuousness.

tolawdjk 3 years, 12 months ago

This tax proposal only has two outcomes

You are either going to attract someone with a large income that isn't attached to a fixed location they have to work at every day where they can retain that income and benefit from the tax break while moving to Ellis Co.

Or you are going to attract the person that has no income to begin with and they will find out that there isn't any income to be had in rural KS, except when they get a job in fast food or low paying retail. Now they aren't paying on that meager income, they've taken a job away from "real" resident, they still need county assistance in some fashion, be it medical, social, or whatever AND they are not contributing to the tax base!

Frack, this tax break is no different than turning an American citizen into an illegal immigrant! They have the potential to be a huge drain on the assisstance structure with no discernable contribution, other than sales taxes, to the support system.

BRILLIANT idea Sammy.

straightforward 3 years, 12 months ago

If this brings even one family to a small western Kansas community, this program has been a success. Maybe you haven't seen the "Hays Has Jobs" signs along I-70? New people won't necessarily be taking jobs from others. What they will do is patronize local businesses like restaurants and retail stores. Increases in student enrollment will boost the funding those schools receive from the state. More people can even help improve the quality of health because it means increased revenues for hospitals, clinics, dentists, etc. - all things western kansas communities are in need of. Achieving an economy of scale actually brings down whatever state funding they need.

Stimulating economies in these communities affects everybody statewide. Look at the school funding formula. Schools in western Kansas receive more $$$ per student because there are fewer students but the school districts have many of the same fixed expenses. If we can attain better balance in our state's population, it can only improve the school funding situation.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 12 months ago

"If this brings even one family to a small western Kansas community, this program has been a success."

Certainly, the key to "success" with this so-called plan is to keep expectations extremely low.

straightforward 3 years, 12 months ago

So you support doing absolutely nothing and letting W. Kansas continue to dry up. I'd love to hear your suggestion bozo, or do you just have cynical comments?

tolawdjk 3 years, 12 months ago

"If this brings even one family to a small western Kansas community, this program has been a success. Maybe you haven't seen the "Hays Has Jobs" signs along I-70? New people won't necessarily be taking jobs from others. What they will do is patronize local businesses like restaurants and retail stores. Increases in student enrollment will boost the funding those schools receive from the state. More people can even help improve the quality of health because it means increased revenues for hospitals, clinics, dentists, etc. - all things western kansas communities are in need of. Achieving an economy of scale actually brings down whatever state funding they need."

What in that list is a "tax free" citizen going to bring that an "illegal immigrant" not going to bring. Both patronize, both increase student enrollment, both use the health system, both increase economy of scale. Both, in theroy at least, pay no income taxes.

I've seen the Hays has jobs signs. I know employers that own businesses in Hays. I fail to see how a non income tax paying resident is going to help that city as much as an income tax paying resident would. Both would do the same things, cept one would contribute less to the community and be subsidized by everyone else.

tolawdjk 3 years, 12 months ago

To add.

Both would be able to obtain instate tuition for thier children without contributing to the upkeep of those schools.

Brownback has taken -all- the arguements against illegal immigration and somehow thinks he can turn it into a "good idea" solely based upon where the person is moving from. If you are coming from Wisconsin, we want you. If you are coming from Belize, stay the frack away.

Clark Coan 3 years, 12 months ago

So, he wants to balance the budget with a $500 million shortfall AND cut taxes? No way, Jose. He's dreaming.

Only those towns within commuting distance of Wichita, Salina, Topeka, Johnson County, KCK, Dodge City, Garden City and Liberal are going to survive and not become ghost towns.

Jimo 3 years, 12 months ago

Why would some wealthy person move to Kansas to avoid state income taxes when he (or she!) could move to scenic Tennessee or Washington State or Florida or New Hampshire? Or Wyoming, Texas, South Dakota, or Nevada?

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