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71-year-old Hutchinson woman knocks attacker unconscious with frying pan

December 15, 2010

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— Hutchinson police say a 71-year-old woman knocked a man who attacked her unconscious with her frying pan.

Police Sgt. John Moore say a 25-year-old man talked his way into the woman's home on Saturday, claiming he was homeless and had nowhere to go.

Moore says when he tried to attack the woman, she fought back and "beat him down with a frying pan." When police arrived, he was unconscious on the floor.

The man is jailed on $55,200 bond on suspicion of attempted rape, aggravated battery, criminal restraint and criminal damage to property. He was wearing a neck brace when he made his first appearance Tuesday in court.

The Hutchinson News reports that the woman was injured but Moore did not release how serious her injuries were.

Comments

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

very cool! I want to know what kind of frying pan she used.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

honestly, though, she is a very brave woman! She fought him off, kept her whits, grabbed the pan and we know the results. The hutch paper said the suspect needed stitches to his scalp. Love this story. Can you imagine this guy in jail explaining how he got hurt cause some elderly woman beat the crap out of him with a frying pan?

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

I was thinking that, too. Those suckers are solid and heavy.

trinity 4 years, 5 months ago

cast iron=the only kind. well except for making just an egg or two, omelets, etc... :)

ivalueamerica 4 years, 5 months ago

This is your brain, this is your brain in a frying pan.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

Well, looking at his mugshot in the hutch paper, I think she hit him hard enough to keep him from getting up and coming after her! their paper said he spent several days in the hospital.

gphawk89 4 years, 5 months ago

Poor guy. It's going to take him years to get his street cred score built back up again. "Hospitalized by an elderly woman with a frying pan" really hurts your ratings.

Clevercowgirl 4 years, 5 months ago

I'm going to for sure keep a chicken frying pan on my stove-top at all times. This brings new meaning to the term "panhandling".

rbs 4 years, 5 months ago

I like seeing this kind of story--more power to aging women!!

kansasredlegs 4 years, 5 months ago

Instead of a frying pan, would have been a better read if she had had a .50 Desert Eagle or a shotgun. She could have turned his head into a canoe.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

Nope, I think its reads just fine that she used a frying pan. After all, he attacked her in the kitchen, not that she would be carrying a gun around with her or keep it in the kitchen.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

I bet it was a big old fashioned cast iron fry pan, like at least 8 inches across. and, no, she don't cook arugula in it!

every sunday afternoon she cooks yummy crisp fried chicken in it for herself and "my babies."

just imagine if it were one of those really big ones: like 12 inches across! wouldn't take too many wallops! to take out this dude.

give her a medal and a reality show!


also note, article indicates he is/says he is homeless.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

you should see his picture in the Hutch paper. She got him good!!!

lily 4 years, 5 months ago

An "assault" fry-pan? A "black" pan??? oh my heavens!

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

Police Sgt. John Moore say a 25-year-old man talked his way into the woman's home on Saturday, claiming he was homeless and had nowhere to go.

---the Hutch sgt. "say" that?

gee. dissociated press strikes again.


two kinds of homeless: lifestyle bum s; and people who are truly homeless. I'll just bet that crispy fried brain man is one of the lifestyle bums.

verity 4 years, 5 months ago

The article states that he claimed he was homeless. No where does it indicate that he actually was homeless. It was a ruse to get into her house.

The lesson here is don't let anyone in your house that you don't know.

Kris_H 4 years, 5 months ago

She knocked him out so bad he was still unconscious when the police got there...my question is, didn't she have any sharp knives in that kitchen to "fix" him with?

Peacemaker452 4 years, 5 months ago

I can’t believe you people. What if an innocent bystander would have been hurt by this assault pan? What if the story read “Grandma hits grandson by mistake”? The government really needs to control people’s access to these deadly weapons. If nothing else, let’s put some common sense limits on the size of pans allowed and the total number you can have. After all, who really needs a 12” skillet, they are obviously only used to hurt people. Come on, it’s for the children.

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

Funny. Since she didn't use a gun, however, there are some here who would call her a victim.

Kyle Reed 4 years, 5 months ago

Uh...what does her having a gun have to do with her being a victim? She was a victim. A victim of an assault and attempted rape.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 5 months ago

As an older woman, it bothers me that so many people are calling her "grandma" in their comments just because she is a senior. She isn't your grandmother and may not even have grandchildren. Calling her "grandma" is part of the problem of marginalizing the elderly and actually a contributing factor to these kinds of attacks. I am incredibly proud of the fact that she did this, although under different circumstances it could have gone horribly wrong. The fact that he was drunk. I'm sure, contributed to her ability to get away from him. She did what she needed to defend herself and get away from him. I'm glad she didn't kill him; not because of any sympathy for the perp but because no one needs to have killing another human being on their conscience.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 4 years, 5 months ago

You make it sound like "grandma" is a derogatory term. You can easily be a granny at 40, and in great shape, so what's the problem?

Honestly, if there is a problem, it's statements like yours that marginalize the elderly. In your statements you paint a picture of someone who is easily victimized.

These comments above are from people who are celebrating her competence while you complain of her vulnerability.

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

Granny at 40 - is that the name of Sarah Palin's next reality show?

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 5 months ago

"Grandma", in and of itself, is not a derogatory term at all. But if it's not your grandmother you have no right to call a woman "grandma" just because she is an elder. If nothing else it's disrespectful. I am an older woman. If some unknown person called me "grandma" just because of my age I would be furious. You are either misunderstanding me or being deliberately obtuse for your own agenda. Calling an unknown woman "grandma" for the sole reason that she is an elder is marginalizing the elderly. Stop trying to justify your own bias by shoving it off on me.

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

Cait, you make a good point. Is it a news story because a woman defended herself in her home, or is it news because she is "old"? How often are men's or women's ages put in the headlines of stories? Not too often. I recall a bunch of conservatives getting very upset when John McCain's age was brought up during the recent presidential election, and this woman is younger than Senator McCain.

The point is, people can be tough at just about any age.

TopJayhawk 4 years, 5 months ago

Cait. Take a lortab and go to bed. It must be past your bedtime.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 5 months ago

Oh and by the way, I am not "complaining of her vulnerability". On the contrary, the fact that people feel comfortable calling an unknown person "grandma" as a stereotype of the elderly leads to the misconception that older people are vulnerable and contributes to the idea that older people are easily attacked and targeted. If anyone is celebrating anything it's those people who celebrate her supposed vulnerability by calling her "grandma" and then oooing and ahing over her competence and ability to overcome it. Excuse me if I scream BS. As bea says below, what is the main grabbing factor in the story; the fact that a woman defended herself? Or the fact that she was old and defended herself?

SAHM21 4 years, 5 months ago

Well according to a comment left on the Hutchinson's website, she is a grandma. "Serves him right. This is my Grandmother"

So what is the problem?

SAHM21 4 years, 5 months ago

Well according to a comment left on the Hutchinson's website, she is a grandma. "Serves him right. This is my Grandmother"

So what is the problem?

slowplay 4 years, 5 months ago

Well, he's no longer homeless. Did grandma have a concealed carry for that pan?

kernal 4 years, 5 months ago

According to the Hutch paper, he was drunk, got in her house on the"guise" that he was homeless, injured her and some of her property. Turns out he has an outstanding warrant for extradition to California. Guess when you have an outstanding warrant for extradition, it's kind of hard to look for a job.

DillonBarnes 4 years, 5 months ago

Frying pan, and with force, way to go grandma. Much better than using a purse... I'm looking at you Ginger.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 4 years, 5 months ago

""When we arrived, he was unconscious and lying in his own vomit in the back of the house," Moore said. "He was in the hospital in Wichita over the weekend and they stapled his scalp.""

from http://hutchnews.com/Todaystop/rape-attempt--2

earline james 4 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for the link. The mug shot makes it even funnier.
I say, "Good job, Grandmother" with all due respect and reverance for an elder. I'm glad the press protected her privacy and didn't print her name and address or anything. I hope she recovers from her injuries, and the trauma quickly and easily.
God bless you, Grandmother!

RoeDapple 4 years, 5 months ago

"When frying pans are outlawed only grannies will have frying pans"

Was that an open carry frying pan or did she have a CCFPP?

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

She was protecting herself inside her own home, so she wouldn't need a CCFPP. She would only need that if she was using her pans outdoors. In her own home, she was clearly within her rights to serve the attacker up with a big helping of scrambled brains.

TopJayhawk 4 years, 5 months ago

good one Bea. But I do think they have a three day waiting period for any cast iron skillet with a diameter of more than twelve inches.

arooney04 4 years, 5 months ago

That a girl! Love this! I hope he gets baked!

RobertMarble 4 years, 5 months ago

haha this is great to see someone not only taking responsibility for their safety, but also for injuring a dirtbag. I'd rather have seen her shooting him as a more permanent solution but she definitely got her point across with what she had available. Good job! This just goes to show that while self defence may not be politically correct, sometimes it is a necessity. Better that a lowlife gets injured or killed than their intended victim.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

well, it also goes to show you don't have to have a gun to protect yourself in your home. Just a great big heavy frying pan and the know withall to use it.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

If you are in your house, a frying pan is what you have handy, is it not?

TopJayhawk 4 years, 5 months ago

Mom of three No, it doesn't show that at all. She was lucky and the circumstances were just right. You would still be better off with a gun in the house. Your simple generalizations might get you killed someday.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

My "simple generalizations," huh.
Let's see Topjaynut and the whirl, I said you don't need a gun to protect yourself in your home. And you don't. She was in her house and her frying pan did just fine. Now, personally, I prefer a baseball bat.

Don't know why you think carrying a gun will keep anyone any safer. If she was in her house, the only way a gun would keep her "safe" is if she carried it with her when she let someone in, or kept it next to the frying pans.

Just goes to show you don't need a gun to protect yourself, if you have your wits and some brains.
And you don't think circumstances have to be right to use a gun. Well, your generalizations may get you killed one day, too.

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

Self defense is politically incorrect? What a ridiculous thing to say. To imagine that only conservatives are in favor of self defense is beyond stupid.

You would also prefer that she had used a gun? Since this turned out well and we don't know what might have happened had a gun been tossed into the situion, I'm very glad a gun wasn't used.

I know you love your guns Robert, but believe it or not they don't always make things better.

mom_of_three 4 years, 5 months ago

Bea, I agree. I wouldn't want to rely solely on a gun for self defense, either. What happens if you didn't have access to it? Would you be able to defend yourself adequately? I would rather depend on my wits.
For those who think a only a gun makes them safer than anyone else is sorely mistaken. You can not guarantee you will have your gun in every single circumstance. Why do you think the military trains people in hand to hand combat, and self defense?

RobertMarble 4 years, 5 months ago

wow beatrice, I see you haven't gotten your emotions under control yet..when faced with an opinion that differs from your own you immediately resort to hysterics like name calling, etc...so much for liberals & tolerance eh?......and what is that ridiculous statement about: "we don't know what might have happened had a gun been tossed into the situation"..of course we don't know beaterice, just like we don't know what would've happened if the criminal had chosen a different house, or if the lady would've been at the grocery store instead of home, etc, etc...so what kind of point are you trying to make anyway? What 'probably' would've happened if the woman had a firearm and was proficient with it's use would be the dirtbag would be dead and unable to harm anyone else. Nor would he be consuming the tax dollars of working Americans with court appointed lawyer, numerous appeals, plus the cost of food, utilities, medical care, etc that he'll be using if he's sent to prison. You really need to get a grip on your erratic emotions beatrice- there is no reason you should be sent into such a tailspin because someone disagrees with you unless. It must suck that other people have such control of your emotional state.

RoeDapple 4 years, 5 months ago

I have an eighteen inch cast iron frying pan. Not much good for self defense but looks good hanging on the wall. Helps me to compensate for . . . um, uh . . . smaller . . uh. Cookware! Yeah, that's it! Smaller skillets . . stored . . elsewhere . .

Clevercowgirl 4 years, 5 months ago

I checked out my skillet collection. Great-grandmothers chicken pan, 10" wide and 4.5" deep, is just the right weight, compact, and guaranteed to pack a wallop. Maybe the housekeeper on the old Tom and Jerry cartoons had the right idea.

Bob Forer 4 years, 5 months ago

I am shocked that the crazy rightwing C&C gun nuts haven't put in their two cents, so i will serve as their proxy:

Granny should learn a lesson from this one. if she had had a Glock she could have saved, with a lot less effort--a trigger pull or two--the taxpayers the hospital bill and trial, and society would be have one less POS burdening us.

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

My guess is she used an 8 inch standard. It has a good heft and balance. I am glad she was able to defend herself.
You guys saying she should of killed him or mutilated him while he was unconscious are a bit creepy, That she should of used a gun or a knife, that she didn't like cooking greens. You seem to be using her dime to speak your prejudices, . stereotyping her or claiming she should of done it different. I hope she is fine, she seems to have handled it well.

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

My guess is she used an 8 inch standard. It has a good heft and balance. I am glad she was able to defend herself.
You guys saying she should of killed him or mutilated him while he was unconscious are a bit creepy, That she should of used a gun or a knife, that she didn't like cooking greens. You seem to be using her dime to speak your prejudices, . stereotyping her or claiming she should of done it different. I hope she is fine, she seems to have handled it well.

RoeDapple 4 years, 5 months ago

Sorry TS, but even we 'weapons enthusiasts' (gun nut is so last year) enjoy imagining the satisfying "Thwack. Thwack, Thwack" sound of the cast iron skillet bouncing off the would be attacker's head. This lady gets big points from me for taking care of business with the tools at hand.

DillonBarnes 4 years, 5 months ago

I would reply to this but I'm a crazy left wing C&C gun nut... so close...

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

They'll have to pry the skillet from my cold, dead oven mitt.

Kelly Johnson 4 years, 5 months ago

This is the kind of woman I want to be when I'm that age! Heck yeah!!!

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 5 months ago

I have a couple cast iron frying pans that I've been told need to be kept "seasoned."

Is that how you "season" a frying pan?

Ron Holzwarth 4 years, 5 months ago

Or did I misunderstand, and it's "frying pan season"?

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

Ron, the pan gets seasoned if the perp has hair oil on, lol.

[yuck].


pace (anonymous) replies …

My guess is she used an 8 inch standard. It has a good heft and balance. I am glad she was able to defend herself. You guys saying she should of killed him or mutilated him while he was unconscious are a bit creepy, That she should of used a gun or a knife, that she didn't like cooking greens. You seem to be using her dime to speak your prejudices, . stereotyping her or claiming she should of done it different. I hope she is fine, she seems to have handled it well.

---sorry Pacie, this kinda woman is well known to us, and that big cast iron fry pan gets used for good food like sunday fried chicken, deep fried pickles, fry pan cornbread, homemade funnelcake, etc.

also note she is not a resident of Lawrence.


Verity, note my first post, I reffed he said that and maybe not true that he was homeless. however, fleeing warrants from California I think "homeless" might just apply to him.

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

Sorry gnome, you are stating you know this woman? why do I think you are lying. My granny cooked greens in a cast iron. I love cast iron, I like fried chicken but I don't lie to say that I know what this woman liked to eat. I do respect her for defending herself.

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

deep fried pickles????

Is this something from the Elvis Cookbook? I'm more than a little grossed out at the thought.

TopJayhawk 4 years, 5 months ago

I think we're going to give Grandmother an honorary citizenship to Topeka.
That's one swingin' Grandma.

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 5 months ago

Granny's...up...side ya head 'Said Granny's upside ya head!

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

Wow Pacie, need a little remedial reading comprehension exercise???

here's what I wrote with emphasis added:

---sorry Pacie, this kinda woman is well known to us, and that big cast iron fry pan gets used for good food like sunday fried chicken, deep fried pickles,

---you fail. indeed, several women like her are my relatives. oops, maybe you missed the "like."

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

Yes, I saw, you stereotyped a brave gutsy woman, to fit your prejudice, then you try to ride her skirt tail. If you want to tout your prejudices do it on your own dime, not on hers. You claim to know her, insisting you know what she liked to eat. That is a lie. I am sure you really feel that way but honesty is more than you really feeling something, there must be some effort to accuracy of fact. You don't know her. That is a lie, you think you know her type. . You don't know this woman. You have attached a stereotype to her. Not the same thing. She deserves respect. You attaching stupid remarks against vegetable and politics to her based on her brave fight is insulting her.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

Bea, yes, look it up: deep fried pickles are real. no, I don't particularly like them myself.


so hot, it's frying your brain, in your brainpan!

I'm guessing this guy was already a rather greasy individual, scraping the dregs from the bottom, hard bitten, and crusty.


Cait48, why do you necessarily assume that crispy fried brain man's intoxication played a role in her taking him out?

some of my female relatives in that age range wouldn't need such a handicap [note, "handicap" here used as in Golf]. they'd do just fine taking him out stone cold sober, that is, he being sober, lol!

I am so glad she took care of him.

*and all joking aside, I hope she has good support right now from family and friends to recover from this.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 5 months ago

You're quite right, I shouldn't have assumed that. I say that because I have a 73 year old female relative who could have/would have done just fine in the same situation. My MIL is a widow and lives alone. She has no problem packing heat and would have no problem using it if it came down to it. My oldest sister (who was married to a police officer for 10 years) is no spring chicken herself. She, too, lives alone and is quite competent at defending herself in a nasty situation. In the end it points up the fact that age and gender have little to do with a willingness to defend oneself and having the skills to do so.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

nice Cait48. if my grandmother were alive (4ft7 and weighed maybe 105 when she was wet) I suspect in this situation she would have killed this perp.

yes, I do know this kinda woman. tough. but also incredibly loving! giving to the core.


Pacie, "stereotype?" sheeesh!
then I'm stereotyping myself as a relative of such a woman.

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

You are insisting that this woman is a type. no real identity. I will tell you how I imagined her. Like my aunt, like my grandmother. all democrats, loving, a bit fierce and quick. very fast to say, cut the cornball, speak for yourself, don't put words in my mouth. But I am not so stupid as to try to spin the story that she is actually that, a democrat who bakes bread in the wood stove on the back porch. . I respect her.i respect my aunt. Neither would I just assign a political view or even more laughable, a dislike of greens. I don't demean her, try to claim she likes certain foods or agrees with my politics. That would be a lie. Whine all you want. but at least whine on your dime not hers. It is stupid to try to insist that you know what food she likes etc. You feel she might but to say you know is just asking for it. No accuracy.

Enough, I hope she is doing ok. It is a terrible moment to fight off a bad guy in your own home.She deserves support, privacy if she wants it. Show some respect for her. Try to wrap your brain around that people usually aren't a type. You can see them that way but stereotyping real people doesn't serve.

RobertMarble 4 years, 5 months ago

despite beatrice's negative / hostile outburst, it is still great to see that the old lady not only saved herself but apparently really clobbered the lowlife who attacked her. Too bad more of these stories don't have a similar ending. If more people were to stand up & fight back like this it would be a definite improvement.

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

Neither because of or despite Robertmarble bizarre use of the words" negative hostile and outburst" which made no sense. It is great this woman came out alive and she was able to defend herself. People often think place is safe, New York less than Kansas, etc. but geography or statistics aren't the danger, It is the person coming at you, One should remember evil is possible in the quietest of towns, Be alert, be careful, be ready. ALso to all, be lucky.

beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

Robert, you wrote "I'd rather have seen her shooting him ..." and you have the nerve to call me hostile? Um, okay.

Now, care to defend your nonsense of calling self defense "politically incorrect"? I'm sure that would be worth a laugh.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 5 months ago

Cait48: In the end it points up the fact that age and gender have little to do with a willingness to defend oneself and having the skills to do so.

---skills: situational awareness; attitude. choice to not be a victim. yeah!


Pacie, you're really maundering there hunn. did I ref her political affiliation, or cooking "on the back porch?"

my suspicion is that you are a prime example of today's angry feminist. but then I might be typing you based on your oh so obvious behavior, including looking for offense when one was not there.

again, you fool, note my comments. I used words such as "like." and note that I have indicated that some of my XX-chromosomal relatives and progenitors fit what I am describing.

please also note that I said nothing about race.

now, Pacie, I hope that you can get support and recover from this apparent trauma for you.

pace 4 years, 5 months ago

You really can't follow can you? You don't admit that you don't know this woman, you claim you know her type.. I respect brave people who act. Who when faced with moments, stand up to them. That doesn't mean I know her. I realize you don't get that. You are comfortable claiming knowledge of her person, some kinship with her, saying she is the type who cooks certain foods, who acts and thinks like some women you are related to you. I will try to say it gently, stereotyping this woman isn't polite to the real person. If she puts you in mind of women you've known, that makes sense, and you could rightly describe them. We all imagine what she might be like. I understood when one person could imagine his little grandmother being fierce and brave , able to defend herself. That is different than you insisting you know what this woman would like to cook, etc. She does not deserve to have your stereotype laid on her. Surely she deserves to be respected for her real self. I have no idea why you want points for not discussing race.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 4 months ago

I have no idea why you want points for not discussing race.

pacie: I have no idea why you want points for not discussing race.

answer is elsewhere in this same post. you use the word "stereotyping."

point of reminding you I made no racial ref: try the definition of "like." look it up. read and learn.

the kind of woman I described can be found across at least four races. FGS!

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