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Feds want power plant for NBAF
March 14, 2008
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TOPEKA — The federal government has asked Kansas and other states vying for a new Department of Homeland Security laboratory to commit to building a power plant for the facility, officials confirmed Friday.
“They want a totally self-sustained operation,” Gov. Kathleen Sebelius said.
Sebelius said the state is looking at what a plant would cost and how it would be funded.
“There was a number thrown out by the feds that we think is just wrong for Kansas,” she said.
Homeland Security has proposed a $450 million National Bio- and Agro-Defense Facility that would focus on potential food supply threats. DHS has requested that the facility have a separate gas-fired power plant, Sebelius said.
Six sites, including Kansas State University, are in the running for the lab.
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14 March 2008 at 1:03 p.m.
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BigDog (Anonymous) says…
Maybe the Governor should suggest building some windmills nearby to power it.
14 March 2008 at 1:07 p.m.
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notnowdear (Anonymous) says…
Just tell them we don't want the NBAF in this state.
Just tell the Dept of Homeland Defense, with it's al Qaeda spies, we don't want them here, near Kansas' AQ cells which are in that area. Kansas will not tolerate the current Homeland Defense.
14 March 2008 at 1:17 p.m.
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notnowdear (Anonymous) says…
OK City bombing put in my touch with the knowledge that there are AQ cells between Jct. City and Kansas City. Special Forces came out in the local bars here in Lawrence by the numbers following the OK Bombings.
They were monitoring something in this area.
Why would they be here in Lawrence? We aren't near Hoisington, Kansas, Barton County.
14 March 2008 at 1:27 p.m.
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andrew11 (Anonymous) says…
Shame somebody didn't jam a hunk of coal in the Governor's mouth as she made the announcement. With her teeth clenched that tightly - the coal would have turned to diamonds by the end of the news conference.
14 March 2008 at 1:42 p.m.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
This *is* rather ironic…
14 March 2008 at 1:51 p.m.
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northtown (Anonymous) says…
This is getting old and tiresome,just tell them to go away.Pick another state!!!!!!!! kansas will live on without them,has so far????
Just go away,another burner waiting to be put on the kansas river??Just wait and watch,it will come!!!!!!It is now in your future,they have warned you!!!!No way to stop it now,Topeka does not care!!!! Niether do you!!You just complain in your little paper,or this blog,so try something better,but it will not stop them either for money talks and the people just do matter anymore!!!Truth hurts,just live with what you got and go on!!!!!
14 March 2008 at 1:53 p.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
if they truly want it to be a self-sustained operation then they certainly should use wind generated power…
14 March 2008 at 1:59 p.m.
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…
DHS has requested that the facility have a separate GAS-fired power plant.
14 March 2008 at 2:20 p.m.
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hawkperchedatriverfront (Anonymous) says…
GAS fired? Then the plant would be best built in Western Gas. Hugoton gas fields.
14 March 2008 at 2:26 p.m.
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ralphralph (Anonymous) says…
Gas power plants make no sense. Natural gas is already in a usable form, ready to be delivered to the consumer. It's not practical to burn it to change it to electricity. Plus, gas is the best fuel for home heating, etc., and it is senseless to deplete it for electricity generation.
How about …….. Safe…….Clean……Nuclear……….?
14 March 2008 at 2:28 p.m.
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autie (Anonymous) says…
We don't want it. Homeland Security is really run by Eric Cartman. Let them build it in, oh, say, Arkabraskahoma.
14 March 2008 at 2:30 p.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
unless there is a natural gas well on the site, a gas powered plant is not a self-sustaining option…
14 March 2008 at 2:31 p.m.
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hawkperchedatriverfront (Anonymous) says…
Build the plant and run it with coal. Coal from Wyoming is coming in every day. Homeland Security in Manhattan, power plant fired by coal. If not Holcomb, then Manhattan.
Watch for more on this.
14 March 2008 at 2:36 p.m.
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Ragingbear (Anonymous) says…
How about no? They want a power plant, then THEY build it.
14 March 2008 at 2:48 p.m.
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logrithmic (Anonymous) says…
I say put it in Holcomb right next to that dump they propose to construct, the “Sunflower” pollution plant….
14 March 2008 at 2:57 p.m.
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toefungus (Anonymous) says…
Does anyone know if natural gas gives off carbon dioxide? Surely, we can just have the Sierra Club pedal bikes with generators attached. Our Governor's little working together image is starting to tarnish.
14 March 2008 at 3 p.m.
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…
DHS has requested that the facility have a separate gas-fired power plant. The host state/city would have to construct and finance a central utility plant for the NBAF facility. The new power plant would serve as the primary (and exclusive) power source for NBAF, and the city-grid would operate as the backup. To finance the power plant for the NBAF, State bonds would have to be issued.
This is the issue; The Kansas legislature would have to authorize these bonds. Sebelius has 2 weeks to get it through the legislature or totally lose the chance of landing the NBAF. The legislature seems to want the Holcomb power plant.
Sebelius is between a rock and a hard place.
If she deals, she's a hypocrite and bad on environmental policy…
If she doesn't, she doesn't care about economic development.
Deal or No Deal?
14 March 2008 at 3:04 p.m.
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logrithmic (Anonymous) says…
There is no deal or no deal for this biological weapons plant.
This plant will house deadly toxins, the world's deadliest, in the middle of the nation's grain belt.
Does that make sense to you?
1) Mishaps and leaks
2) Potential terrorist target
3) Needs its own power plant
These is a no-brainer. What will you do when the leak occurs and we suddenly have a toxic plague on our hands right here in good old Kansas? Will you be yappin about how much money you've made when your kids die off? When you're on your deathbed?
Stupid really is as stupid does.
14 March 2008 at 3:15 p.m.
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stuckinthemiddle (Anonymous) says…
logrithmic
indeed…
14 March 2008 at 3:22 p.m.
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hipper_than_hip (Anonymous) says…
what pollution are you talking about log?
14 March 2008 at 3:29 p.m.
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srj (Anonymous) says…
They did not mention this before? Ouch! Sebelius got “burned” on this deal.
14 March 2008 at 3:40 p.m.
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gccs14r (Anonymous) says…
Put it in RTP, NC. That way, any airborne releases are carried out over the Atlantic.
14 March 2008 at 3:42 p.m.
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logrithmic (Anonymous) says…
This is but one story about these kinds of “plants.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21096974/
Tell the feds to take their “war on terror” money and put it in their D.C. place where the sun don't shine….
14 March 2008 at 3:44 p.m.
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logrithmic (Anonymous) says…
In addition, the anthrax attack on the U.S. Senate offices of 2 Democratic senators has never been solved. But it is evident that the anthrax came from one of these facilities right here in the United States. The attack remains unsolved even though four people died and 20 plus were injured.
Read the story about it here:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_…
14 March 2008 at 4:19 p.m.
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…
its_getting_warmer,
You buying?
14 March 2008 at 4:21 p.m.
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merrill (Anonymous) says…
Department of Homeland Defense is bogus and a drain on the economy. So is President Bush for that matter. Less government eh?
This is one cabinet position that needs to hit the road right along with George.
14 March 2008 at 4:38 p.m.
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Kontum1972 (Anonymous) says…
the same administration that said we are just in a slow -down, not a recession and today the shrub changed his story now we are in a recession, but we had a small recession during 9-11 then wecame out of it…ok ya boob which one is it? The guy is a complete joke and all of u who voted for him should be really proud of your choice.
Gas will be 4.00 / gallon….and the final estimate will be 5.00/ gallon. Theres gonna be alot of suv's on the used car lots.
Bush admitted a few days ago that he didnt know gas was 4.00/gal.,….duh well yeah….he has a fleet of limos and does pay for one drop of fuel, and he will problably get his gas for free when he goes back to texas with his tail between his legs.
14 March 2008 at 5:34 p.m.
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dinglesmith (Anonymous) says…
One has to wonder if this late requirement got inserted to prevent the lab from coming here. It would be interesting to know if any of the other competing sites already meet this requirement. I'll bet one does…
14 March 2008 at 5:57 p.m.
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…
Yeah,
Flora Industrial Park in Mississippi, Texas Research Park in San Antonio, Texas, Umstead Research Farm in North Carolina, and the University of Georgia in Athens, Georgia all have small gas powerplants dedicated to a 520,000 sf. research facility just sitting idle…
14 March 2008 at 9:07 p.m.
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BigPrune (Anonymous) says…
This is how the Federal Government weeds out the weaklings. Just as they brought up staying in their current location after all these states thought they were in the running.
My money says this plant will remain in its current locale. Much adoo about nothing. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
14 March 2008 at 9:57 p.m.
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ENGWOOD (Anonymous) says…
Hey Melvin tell the Gov. it's bottom of the 9th, the games tied and she's screwed.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14 March 2008 at 10:29 p.m.
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…
BigPrune,
No the Plum Island facility has been on the chopping block for years, even long before DHS wrestled control from the Ag Dept.
Ever since those lyme disease infected ticks got loose.
15 March 2008 at 1:10 a.m.
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crackers (Anonymous) says…
I'm sorry, but what is a aq cell?
28 March 2008 at 4:15 p.m.
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Agnostick (Anonymous) says…
I'm not sure, but maybe this is what we're talking about?
“Gas turbine plants use the dynamic pressure from flowing gases to directly operate the turbine. Natural-gas fuelled turbine plants can start rapidly and so are used to supply “peak” energy during periods of high demand, though at higher cost than base-loaded plants. These may be comparatively small units, and sometimes completely unmanned, being remotely operated. This type was pioneered by the UK, Princetown[5] being the world's first, commissioned in 1959.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_plant…
28 March 2008 at 4:56 p.m.
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georgeofwesternkansas (Anonymous) says…
Lets use wind power and just keep the place open when the wind blows.
28 March 2008 at 5:03 p.m.
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georgeofwesternkansas (Anonymous) says…
Since burning natural gas creates co2 I bet Brimby will tell the gov to forget this thing.
Does she still get to spend the $100+ million the legisleaure just passed, right before this revelation???
What timing!! The gov would never try to get over on citizens like that, would she??