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Do you support the Occupy Lawrence protesters in South Park?

Response Percent Votes
Yes
 
44% 684
No
 
44% 682
I don’t know anything about their concerns
 
11% 181
Total 1547

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ivalueamerica 2 years, 4 months ago

no matter if I agree with their points, I would die for this....

“the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

However, I also agree with their points. Runaway power to corporations over individual citizens, especially in government, an unfair tax burden on the middle class due to tax cuts on the wealthy and economic injustice to the poor are all things that weaken this country.

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whats_going_on 2 years, 6 months ago

I kind of feel like seeing as a lot of us grouped the tea party into the "hick" group, thats just what is happening, except now ALL the protestors must be jobless, lazy jerks. What goes around, comes around, I guess.

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kernal 2 years, 6 months ago

standupspeakout, you lost me with "They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press". I cannot think of an instance in recent times where that has occurred in the U.S.

As for "They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt" What are you talking about?

Please provide some citation.

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lunacydetector 2 years, 6 months ago

"A Marxist ... logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism."

Saul Alinsky (1909-1972)

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standupspeakout 2 years, 6 months ago

Hummm.. agree?? They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation. They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices. They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right. They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance. They have sold our privacy as a commodity. They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit. They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them. They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit. They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit. They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt. They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas. They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. These grievances are not all-inclusive.

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thuja 2 years, 6 months ago

This protest is better than thinking our comments on the internet are going to get anything done.

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Imnotafan 2 years, 6 months ago

liberals and lobbyist are killing this country!!!!!

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bearded_gnome 2 years, 6 months ago

ljwhirled wrote: Applying Clark to Zuccotti Park, as Dunn says, will involve balancing how the rules governing this particular space square with the First Amendment. For folks contemplating protesting, either in Manhattan or in your hometowns, Clark offers limited guidance: Mats are probably better than sleeping bags, which are better than tents. In general, you don’t want to do anything that looks like you are blocking sidewalks or roads. And take a lesson from the protesters at Zuccotti Park: If the city says you are being dangerously unhygienic, clean up."

---it is wrong to apply that ruling to the activity in Zuccotti park, because it is private property. big difference.

however, it does apply to South Park.

I should not have to worry about the occuhippies (neohippies/paleohippies/anarchists) if I wish to go to a park which is held in public hands for my use.


85% of the ny occuhippies have jobs. their protest is silly for that reason alone.

and I do have the freedom of speech to criticize them.

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oneeye_wilbur 2 years, 6 months ago

Has the KS Health Dept inspected the food facilities?

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camper 2 years, 6 months ago

It is inevitable that prolonged periods of high unemployment will result in social unrest and protesting. We are at a point where there are fewer opportunities for indiviuals than there has been in a long time. Pre WWII. It does not matter if you are in college or 50 years old and recently laid off. There are fewer opportunities.

We've allowed our systems, politcs, institutions whatever you call them, into something that is generating more losers than winners. Greed seems to be at the core of it. So yeah, I'm ticked, but I just don't know that Wall-Street is worthy of the entire blame. The protests seem mis-directed, but I understand and share some of the sentiment. Same goes for the Tea-Party, but I just can't identify with them or agree with them on much.

Man, it does not seem like too long ago when the Jonses had two SUV's in the garage.

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darthtaco 2 years, 6 months ago

As long as the USA is occupied by redstate rightwing radicals I say occupy!!

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bolshavik_vw 2 years, 6 months ago

Yes I do, Keep up the fight. I will be right there with you guys once I get a day to do so.

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uncleandyt 2 years, 6 months ago

If you can't beat 'em, mischaracterize 'em. Pretend the message is unclear. Today, the radio liars trotted out the notion that one third of the movement wants to get violent. The ever-shrinking number of ditto-heads have been led to believe that the movement is just a bunch of unorganized, confused rich, poor, white, not-white, young, old people with a specific agenda to destroy who-knows-what. Dear Haters, Corporate money corrupts our politics. Think about that, and then keep thinking. This is no time to pretend to be stupid.

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blue73harley 2 years, 6 months ago

I find it amusing that the city commissioners did so much hand-wringing about a bunch of us car guys taking over South Park for a day (Rev It Up Car Show for charity) yet have no problem with the Occupy Lawrence -Because-We-Have-Nothing-Better-To-Do Protesters.

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think_about_it 2 years, 6 months ago

Back to the question that was asked. " Do you support the Occupy Lawrence protesters in South Park?".

Answer: Unfortunately yes. Those of us with jobs support them financially.

At least the hobos don't have to trek down to the river for a few days. Enjoy the stench losers.

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oneeye_wilbur 2 years, 6 months ago

What's on the food menu? What time is breakfast served? Are the snacks thoughout the nite?

Which bathroom are open? I understand some senior citizens and Viet Nam vets will show up and really occupy, mostly the toilets.

Is Corliss going to clean up the clogged stools?

With 10 or 12 people hanging around in the park, it's hard to believe that the group will get very rowdy. It does make for someplace to go for some of the folks at Vermont Towers as they can take their hoverrounds right over to the park and get some more food.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 6 months ago

Seize the time! Occupy everything, demand and fight for everything!

Statement by the Bail Out the People Movement in support of students and activists in Denver Colorado who are embarking on an occupation of the largest university campus in the state.

Bail Out the People Movement, like many others, is inspired by the tremendous movement that has been unleashed around the country. The occupation movement has captured the imagination of so many who have been suffering under the conditions of a system that is in a deep and intractable crisis. BOPM salutes the achievements of the Occupy Wall Street Movement. This movement must not and cannot be stopped.

Of course, the Occupy Wall Street Movement is not perfect; no movement is. Clearly, this movement will not be able to realize its full revolutionary potential unless the most thoughtful and serious activists within its ranks struggle to overcome any and all barriers to the movements full union with communities of color, and those who because of race, religion, gender or class bear the brunt of inequality and oppression.

Activists in communities of color and others have taken on the task of developing consciousness and using the space opened up to help bring about such a full union.

We stand with all people struggling and fighting and say continue forward. Seize the time! Occupy everything, demand and fight for everything!

http://www.bailoutpeople.org/occupycampuses.shtml

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fu7il3 2 years, 6 months ago

Looks like the 99% is actually the 42%.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 6 months ago

November 3, 2011 – Washington, DC

National Nurses United International Day of Action: Make Wall Street Pay

As the leaders of the G-20 nations meet in France November 3, 2011 to address the global economic crisis, join with nurses, consumer advocates and union allies as part of actions around the world to send a message from Main Street: Wall Street must pay for the devastation they’ve caused to our communities.

A Wall Street Financial Transaction Tax (FTT) can raise $350 billion per year in the U.S. to provide living wage jobs, guaranteed healthcare, a secure retirement for all, quality public education, good housing and protection from hunger. European workers want the benefits of the FTT in their own countries as well.

November 3, 2011, we will tell Congress and economic policy makers in Washington: Tax Wall Street.

Thursday, November 3, 2011 11:30 am — Lafayette Square 3:00 pm — Lobby on Capitol Hill

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somedude20 2 years, 6 months ago

Can't the male turkeys just be happy that their sex drives are up and have at it( you would think the female turkeys would be happy about this)? Sex it up, turkeys!!! http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2011/oct...

Gooble gooble!

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George Lippencott 2 years, 6 months ago

Are we confusing the medium with the message?

I am on record with my abhorrence of the distribution of wealth in this country. I feel “Wall Street” took us to the cleaners. The decision as implemented to compete the American worker with low income people around the word is IMHO criminal.

That said there are ordinances against sleeping in our parks. If we ignore them we open the door to charges of selective enforcement and a potential inability to enforce them at all.

Because some feel that the protest is a glorious demonstration of democracy does not remove us form the “rule of law”. Otherwise the rule of the jungle applies!! Guns anyone?

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LHS56 2 years, 6 months ago

Another thought that I don't think has been addressed. We don't have jobs available for the approximately 15% either looking for work or have given up looking for work. But, we continue to purchase goods made outside of the United States. Our middle class were the people employed in manufacturing. I believe the number of goods manufactured in the US that are purchased in the US is now below ten percent. Step up and pay that extra cost for American goods. Get our jobs back. As more automation and importing occur we will continue to have high or higher unemployment. And the entitilement generation will continue to grow. (There are many jobs available now...check kansasworks.com )

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 6 months ago

Stand with Occupy Wall Street Not a single banker has gone to jail for crimes that led to the financial meltdown.

http://www.credoaction.com/campaign/occupy_ws/?rc=homepage

Sign The Petition

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pilch 2 years, 6 months ago

Farking hippies. Poor disillusioned closet communists. Pravda must be laughing its ass off right now.

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KUKRU 2 years, 6 months ago

GO SOMEWHERE THAT MATTTERS!!! Your voice will never be heard in Lawrence. You are wasting your time!

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Shane Garrett 2 years, 6 months ago

Stop the war on poverty. Stop the war on drugs. Stop the war overseas. Stop the war on terrorist. Stop the wars. Give peace a chance. Just thought I would join the protests.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 6 months ago

Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

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blindrabbit 2 years, 6 months ago

Protest a direct result of our Government not acting in the interest of the public; too many politicians tied to big money and the Wall Street debacle. Public beginning to realize that demonstrations such as these may (can) cause some movement to action. For too long the American populace has been complacent in allowing monetary and fiscal policies to fester resulting in a diminished middle class caused by the fallacy of Reagan style "trickle down" economics, less purchasing power and job stagnation. To believe that business is so altruistic as to be concerned with the benefit of our society as a whole is fallacious; greed, ego and the need to accumulate wealth are the driving factors.

As a Vietnam Veteran, I am encouraged to see more public demonstrations against poor government policy and action. After all, it was this kind of action by a caring public that caused a rethinking of our Vietnam policy and our ultimate withdrawal from that debacle.

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Paul R Getto 2 years, 6 months ago

"the state of Alabama needs workers to fill the jobs that have been abandoned by illegal migrant workers as a result of recent state legislature. " ===== Washington state too if you like cooler weather. The apples aren't getting picked either. I keep waiting for all the high school dropouts to rush to take the agricultural jobs now opening up around the country.

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star7 2 years, 6 months ago

"Small world....Small MIND"! RE: "Hippies live in clusters"? Please define "HIPPIE"?

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walkthehawk 2 years, 6 months ago

I support the right to protest, and I agree with the sense of unease and even anger at the corporate mobocracy that increasingly governs. But the "occupation" of South Park seems to say little and accomplish nothing about these concerns. So I would have to say, "no."

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gudpoynt 2 years, 6 months ago

To the naysayers:

There is a political identity being crafted right now. It's being crafted by the economically powerful. It's being crafted for the conservative base. And it's being put forth relentlessly through conservative media outlets, most notably Fox News of course.

What they are doing, if you'll look closely, is conflating thier own interests with the more common interests of the broader conservative voter base, and calling it a single political identity. They are fully aware that their constituents will defend their core principles vehemently, which is exactly why they are trying to sneak their own interests into the same, indivisible political identity.

They are attempting to protect their privilege, and they are marketing it as your privilege too. Don't buy it.

Instead, try to remember at what point the defense of wall street became became fused with the defense of main street. At what point did multi national corporations get handcuffed to small business?

While the speific goals of the OWS movement remains fairly nebulous, the most overwhelming point of consistency is simply that the influence of coprorate money in public policy is far too great, has been the single biggest contributor to the reckless economic practices that tanked the U.S. and global economies, and that a much higher degree of accountability and oversight must be established to prevent such catastrophes from occurring in the future.

So, naysayers, stop and ask yourself: What is it about this opinion -- the opinion most shared among OWS protesters -- that you disagree?

The powerful economic forces that wish to fuse their own interests with the broader conservative base have declared that any infringement upon them or their economic practices is likewise an infringement upon every American, no matter where you are economically.

Do you believe them? Because personally, I don't buy that line for a second. And the OWS movement is a testament that a significant population of pissed off Americans do not either.

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star7 2 years, 6 months ago

In the world today MONEYand STATUS has little to do with the situation of IQ. You must not know how many AMERICAN VETERANS are homeless or the position of the BABY BOOMERS who lost their retirement in the stock market and are not certain of the Social Security standings. Some are VIET NAM era no jobs and benefits taken away for serving our country? DO YOU remember US ? Do you remember we were this YOUTH of the 1960's. I am proud of our people of any age willing to take a stand and get AMERICA back to TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE and making changes for the good and better of our future as a country and future generations!

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cheeseburger 2 years, 6 months ago

I would like to organize an Occupy movement to protest the 47% of people who pay no income taxes, most of which are probably over at the other Occupy movement!

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BABBOY 2 years, 6 months ago

I love these guys. If for no other reason, they piss off conservatives. That is good enough for me.

I will note however that a bunch of people trying to tramp out evil and corruptions is much better then a bunch of lazy do not want to pay my taxes Tea Partiers (because the Tea Party does not care about AMerica they just do not want to be taxed)

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KS 2 years, 6 months ago

What do they want? I guess they want everyone to open their pocketbooks and just give them some money because they are too stupid to figure out how to get a job.

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skinny 2 years, 6 months ago

It would appear most of those protesting didn't have anything before all this went down. I'd be willing to bet they don't have a dime in the stock market.

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llama726 2 years, 6 months ago

The conservatives are scared. Interesting.

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Liberty275 2 years, 6 months ago

I support them like I would the phelps klan. More power to them.

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gl0ck0wn3r 2 years, 6 months ago

Hippies tend to live in clusters.

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tbaker 2 years, 6 months ago

The longer these aimless brats continue with their protests, the longer voting Americans will have to see the true face of liberal / progressive insanity. Do the country a favor and bring them a happy meal and a pillow. Encourage them. It’s very unlikely, but we need to keep them out there past the first hard freeze.

Inside of this happy-place little bubble of baseless idealism they live in is a bizarre set of assumptions about our society. I would say their expectations are some kind of birthright they have to do absolutely nothing to deserve, but the only prerequisite the flea-baggers have is to be physically located in America. Being conscious is optional. Their attitude broadcasts the liberal narrative that most Americans are victims of this or that sinister elite, and aren't competent to cope with life's complexities without government supervision. They are deranged by the entitlement mentality, fostered by the ever-larger welfare state America has built. These bed-wetters have such low pain thresholds that suffering is defined by as a slow internet connection. These insipid children are a splendid example of the kind of thinking that has put our country into the deep, dark hole we are in. The longer we’re able to keep them out there transmitting this message, the better.

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ksrush 2 years, 6 months ago

Pretty sure I saw quite a few Dr /lawyer types and maybe middle mgt. Diverse group for sure. Can someone maybe tell the occupants how to spell libary ( 44 seonds into vidoe )

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Bossa_Nova 2 years, 6 months ago

To all who are protesting due to lack of employment: if you are unemployed and are serious about finding a job, the state of Alabama needs workers to fill the jobs that have been abandoned by illegal migrant workers as a result of recent state legislature.

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deec 2 years, 6 months ago

New Yorkers overwhelmingly support the movement: "Sixty-seven percent of New York City voters said they agree with the protesters’ views, while 23 percent don’t, the school’s Polling Institute said today. Support ranged from 81 percent among registered Democrats to 58 percent among independents and 35 percent from Republicans. By 72 percent to 24 percent, voters said law-abiding demonstrators can stay as long as they want. " http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-17/wall-street-protesters-backed-3-to-1-by-new-yorkers-quinnipiac-poll-says.html

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vuduchyld 2 years, 6 months ago

criminals in congress might as well just pass a tax That goes straight from my paycheck all the way to Goldman Sachs The fats are getting rich, the rest of us are hurtin', Hell our last vice president came straight from Halliburton You can use your billy clubs, tear gas, or mace But my arse was already kicked by JP Morgan Chase

It was homicide by Countrywide and Angelo Mozilo Citigroup and Boeing made us all bite the pillow Exxon Mobil Wells Fargo pay no income tax But nobody goes to prison for the min much less the max AIG and BofA they brought us to our knees While General Electric shipped their jobs overseas

(Smash It Grab It OCCUPY...the video!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8XE4CdNYEs

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deec 2 years, 6 months ago

Well, most Americans disagree with the usual gang of negative nattering nabobs on this forum: http://www.indypendent.org/2011/10/17/167-mil-support-ows/ including this Marine Iraqi veteran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEHcO...

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Pastor_Bedtime 2 years, 6 months ago

So much for "ask not what your country can do for you"...

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Mike Ford 2 years, 6 months ago

you know....at least they show up to protest....what happened when the tealicans couldn't move the trailer park to the Woodlands for a tea party rally not long ago?

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Flap Doodle 2 years, 6 months ago

We can do number 2 in the streets now without getting busted? Cool!

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bearded_gnome 2 years, 6 months ago

has the stench started there too yet?

Rush, you forgot: defecating in public, violence, many arrests (which they sought to have happen), Ravers, free condoms in a box, hookups, etc.

these need to get a clue: Obama received huge amounts from Wall Street, and his initial office positions were thoroughly marinated with Goldman Sachs drones.
hypocrisy.
are the locals as virulently antisemetic as the new york protestors? someof them want to have wealthy people branded with tatoos, and have their names published. kinda sounds like a certain German regime in history that required another group to wear yellow Stars of David.

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lunacydetector 2 years, 6 months ago

why are they protesting now instead of 2-3 years ago? where have these people been? why aren't they in front of the white house protesting?

do they need a permit to camp downtown?

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George Lippencott 2 years, 6 months ago

I do not like your choices. Peoiple have an absolute right to protest. We also have laws to protect common property from abuse by a small minority. Protest away but within the law.

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ksrush 2 years, 6 months ago

Yes. The panhandlers and homeless need something to do besides take up space and do drugs on Mass.

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