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It should be lower for everyone except me. I seem to be the only person around here who knows how to drive. I'm really sick of the rest of you idiots.
They were driving 80 today from olathe to desoto.
I think it should be enforced at 70
Random sobriety checkpoints Friday morning - Sunday morning, problem solved (or at least 50%ish or more)
"Only let automobiles from American Companies on the road." Actually, about two thirds of foreign autos in the U.S. are built in the U.S. by American employees. While our big three auto makers were laying off employees, the foreign auto makers were creating new jobs for Americans.
A higher fuel tax would encourage conservation which could mean slower speeds.
No, people are not going to stop driving fast like others have said, which would create more of a hazard because of the people that did slow down. (including more road rage)
They wouldn't do it anyway because of game day traffic/revenue. It's already an nightmare on those days.
Driving 55 could save gas in theory, but I don't think the 55 law helped lower US consumption much if at all, because most people didn't really drive 55 anyway, and my car, for example, while it might get better mileage if I was on level ground and didn't vary the speed at all, gets better mileage in real world conditions at 75 rather than 65 (my dash gauge corroborated this)
I would guess this is because it maintains momentum better on hills at a higher speed. If I have to accelerate because of traffic or hills and I'm only going 60, for example, I have to push my foot down quite a bit more, and the MPH indicator on my dash really drops.
My car engine RPM is about 2000 at 60mph in top gear. That means it will make about 2000 revolutions for each mile I drive. Even if I go twice as fast, 4000 RPM, the engine will still make 2000 revolutions for each mile. The fuel consumption thus depends on how far you push the gas pedal, as long as I can stay in top gear.
I use a down hill stretch to gain speed and momentum, then, instead of slowing down, like a cruise control is programmed to do, maintain pedal and speed as you start to climb the next hill. If you use cruise control it will wait until your are going uphill and slowing down before it will apply throttle, which is why RVer's know cruise controls hurt fuel economy when driving in hilly terrain ( practically all of Kansas, except certain routes along rivers and hilltop ridges).
I wonder if a lot of speed related traffic problems are related to cruise control. Don't get out in the left lane to pass a truck and leave it on cruise control. You may need to change speed suddenly and the cruise control will delay your response.
We should bring back the national 55 mph until the troops are home.
LJW - are you having trouble with the site? Many comments that were here yesterday and not in violation of policy (and not showing as removed by staff) are missing today, and when a person clicks on their comment history, it takes them to the article but not to their comment.
Why is this poll back up? The answer is still no...
phone man, I presume you are the idiot driving 65 down K-10 in the left lane. I have never had a ticket or a wreck pulling a trailer and in 2 decades of hauling equipment on a trailer, never lost anything off my trailer. I am guessing you cannot say that even in your little prius. LIke I was saying before and you obviously cant understand. Speed does not cause accidents, it is people who do not pay attention that cause them. And yes, I am gonna teach my kids to be able to drive safely at a higher speed and be able to drive aggressively to be able to maneuver around people like you.
Why would we lower it?
porno on cell phones while driving...both hands on the wheel plz..
Mine was built in California. The origin statements on cars are interesting. Most of the time parts of nearly any "American" car are built in Canada and Mexico. Speed kills, as we see in the paper most days. People need to slow down and/or get up earlier so they can make it to work safely.
My dad once suggested a good solution that would cure most traffic problems: Only let a car on the road if it's completely paid for.
Some idiot this morning was driving between 45-60 in the left lane on K-10. He'd speed up to 60 then brake down to 45. In the left lane. I suspect one of you people.
i voted yes simply because i can't tow my trailer at that speed. speed away if your vehicle can, just watch out for me in the slow lane ;)
It ain't the speed limit that's the problem. It's the people who don't understand how to pay attention when behind a 3000+ pound death missle. Eating, phoning, texting, putting on makeup, just being stupid. If the drivers test was harder than a cracker jack puzzle then it might help. But to lower the speed limit? Nah, cars are plenty safe.
I happen to drive between 80-85 mph most of the time on I-70 and K-10 and I pull a trailer for work about 70% of the time and I have had 1 wreckin 25 years and that was a dear running in front of me. Once again, it is not speed but common sense. Parents are letting their kids drive without properly teaching them the do and donts. I have a 12 year old son and take him out in the country and give him plenty of practice and training. I am guessing he already has better awareness than 3/4's of the idiots on the road who have no idea that anyone else is even on the road. People, look around while you are driving.
Lower it and patrol the Hell out of it, we'll turn it into a revenue stream thanks to selfish d-bags that have no regard for the safety of others.
"Transportation safety has steadily improved in the United States for many decades. Between 1920 and 2000, the rate of fatal automobile accidents per vehicle-mile decreased by a factor of about 17. Except for a pause during the 1960s, progress in reducing fatal accidents has been steady. Safety for other types of U.S. passenger transportation has also improved substantially, but long-term statistical data are not as readily available. While the fatality rate roughly leveled off from 2000 to 2005 at around 1.5 fatalities per 100 million miles traveled, it has resumed a downward trend to 1.27 in 2008."
Traffic zooms by on the German autobahn at 120 mph. The speed-limitless highway system stretches 6,800 miles and the Federal Ministry of Transport has declared the autobahn to be one of the safest road systems in the world despite the roaring, high speeds. US highways, on the other hand, rank as one of the most dangerous where speed limits range from 55 to 75 mph. Strict laws are believed to be the prominent reason the autobahn is safer than US highways.
Drivers follow strict autobahn laws. Laws prohibit stopping on the autobahn. Regardless if children are misbehaving, a pair of sunglasses flew out the window or if a vehicle runs out of gas, there is no excuse to stop as these are considered avoidable
Germans take driving seriously and consider it a privilege. It is a big undertaking to receive a driver’s license in Germany. All Travel Germany.com states that the minimum driving age in Germany is 17. It costs over $2,000 for a license after an extensive 25 to 45 hours of professional instruction and 12 hours of theory. On the other side of the pond, a 15-year-old in New Mexico can receive a learner’s permit and enroll in a free driver’s education program through a local school, according to the State of New Mexico website. Most states require drivers to be 16 years old before they can sit behind the wheel of a vehicle.
If americans could see their driving as a privilege and not a right; adhere to strict laws and not be typical american a-holes we could drive these speeds but we do not. We want to act inappropriately and with no regard to anyone else's safety. That is evident by the many who comment on how fast they drive and everyone else should get out of their way.
Why is the accident rate on the Autobahn less than that of American highways?
You people that think that speed is the problem just don't understand what causes accidents.
no, it is not the speed limit that causes accidents, people driving 50 on K-10 will cause more problems than drivers going 85. Also, if you are not passing someone, then get the heck out of the left lane. And sort of pay attention to others on the road, you are not the only one out there.
Idgaf what the speed limit is, but the problem is enforcement. Imo left lane lollygaggers cause the most danger. Seriously every time I drive K10 there's a t least one car that refuses/or is oblivious to the fact that I'm behind them, in the left lane, going a reasonable speed limit, wanting to pass their slow ***
It does seem to me if people speed with the limit at 70 they will probably be speeding more if it is dropped back to 65 or 55. If they raised it to 75 I wonder how much people would change? People usually drive a a speed they are comfortable at. People that drive 80+ would still probably drive 80+, which is generally too fast for safety of course but it's hard to stop that.
K-10 is the main road a lot of people in Lawrence use. If we didn't have wrecks on K-10 we'd have them somewhere else. Somebody gets on the wrong ramp at 3:00 am, what can you do to stop them?
If we didn't have K-10 the culprits would be out on some other road. And don't forget there are plenty of wrecks on 59. I would think the new road will to Ottawa will reduce accidents, but they might start having crossover and wrong way accidents there too, when it's all four lane.
There is some down side to lowering speed limits. With the pipeline moving a little slower cars will naturally bunch a little closer together.
So when are they going to develop a radar gun for texting? Hey wait that's my million dollar idea! Forget what I just said!
If you do and I obey it I will be run over by the hoard going 80.
Nobody smart enough out there to drive the speed limit anyway no matter what it is. We could not afford to pay enough officers to enforce it what ever it is you would have to have one sitting every mile marker and then I'm not so sure.
The speed limit is not the problem right now.
It is lack of enforcement of the existing laws and a lack of focus by drivers who are not being careful and responsible.
Why do we always end up arguing about the speed limit?
I agree with the toll road; however not with the pay $50 to drive 100 mph. When you pull your ticket it is timed stamped if you arrive at your exit point and the time stamp determines you were speeding you should be directed to a ticketing point to the side. If you have to wait an hour or two for the one or two officers to issue your citation too bad! You were speeding and putting the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS in harms way. Perhaps the steep fine in combination with the wait time will retrain you do the posted speed limit.
Goooooooo Lightrail !
Make it a toll road and use the money for strict enforcement of existing driving laws. After all the toll booths and collection baskets are paid for of course. Track every car and impose a fee based on speed driven. Want to drive 100 mph, pay 50 bucks. Want to drive the speed limit, pay nothing.
Cell phones need to be banned for one. No matter what anyone thinks, there are dozens of studies that prove that is is unsafe for them to be used, even hands free is dangerous. We existed fine before cell phones, go use a CB if you got to talk to someone.
Also, the speed limit needs to be reduced to I believe 60 is the magic number on fuel efficiency or is it 55. It kills me how so many people are up for fuel efficient cars but yet they allow the speed limit to be raised. Sort of defeats the purpose.. or better yet, install high speed rail and see many auto issues and accidents decline greatly...nah can't do that Americans are too stuck up on their individual rights and greed to consider such a economical and environmental alternative of transport.
The final thing is to crack down and bust the idiots who do speed. I can see allowing people to go up to 4 miles per hour above because the accuracy of a radar gun and that of the speedometer is not a 100 percent.
While I don't think the speed needs to be increased I also think lowering it 5-10 miles would do that much of a difference when it comes to safety. Now if we lowered the speed to like 20 miles per hour and required all drivers to drive horse drawn buggies, then maybe there would be some increased safety.
Speed is not the issue. Distractions and poorly trained drivers are.
Look at Germany and the Autobahn. While on the Autobahn, you can't have a drink, food, cell phone, etc... No distractions what so ever. You are on it to drive and drive fast.
American's think they need to multi task 24/7. When you're driving, you should focus only on the road.
stop worrying about what i am doing in my car.
watch out for yourself and get out of the left hand lane. that's the problem---not my texting.
back in the days of the game brick breaker on blackberry i set my alltime high score driving in between Larry and joCo on K-10. i can handle it. You obviously cannot.
squawk ,....u left out sex ..and the auto-bong
Slow drivers are as big of a problem as fast drivers on the 10.
Ban cell phones, smoking, make up, computers, newspapers, coffee, soft drinks, changing clothes, sight seeing, magazines, reports/documents, books and did I say cell phones. These are the things I see people doing or using while driving on K10 on a daily basis.
I think Brutus raises an excellant point. I think if they lowered the speed limit it would only cause road rage and incidents when morons drive even slower in the fast lane.
I see left lane campers as the biggest problem. Sure, I speed as a lot of people do. But when I go around people I get back in the right lane. Some people just stay there and think that if they are going the speed limit they are entitled to stay there and "enforce" others to not go faster than they are.
Why can't we take advantage of the "problem" and finally create a light-rail corridor, which can easily be supplemented in Lenexa by re-arranging the JoCo buses into a feeder network? If there is a place for light rail in the 4-state area, this is really a perfect place for it!
Step up enforcement and ban all use of cell phones on the road.
*speed. Stupid autocorrect.
Like the person above, lowering the speed limit won't do anything. People will drive the spied they're most comfortable at either way.
The only way to stop these idiots from rolling their cars and crossing the median is better driver's training. Take responsibilty for your actions, follow the rules and be courteous. Common sense stuff...
Posting a speed limit is not going to change anything.
Maybe post signs that say "drive at your own risk"?
No sign is going to compensate for entitled drivers.
Ban the use of cell phones. Recent one car accidents have been during the day. Drivers are not sleepy or intoxicated. And, if single cars are losing control, speed limits should be lower. We need more enforcement, because drivers ignore the laws.
Like with all busy 4-lane freeways, during low light conditions and total darkness it is almost impossible to drive with your headlights on high beam. To avoid blinding oncoming traffic, or having oncoming traffic blind you, everybody drives using their headlight low beams.
At 70mph a vehicle running on low beams is virtually running in the dark. The headlights don't let the driver see far enough ahead that he has the ability to stop his vehicle. This is not the best self-preservation situation when our area is habitat to whitetail deer that have a gift for popping out onto the roadway directly in front of you.
So to answer the Question, I say do this the old-fashioned way:
70mph daylight maximum / 60mph night maximum / and a 24-7 55mph zone extending a quarter mile east and west of the K-7 overpass junction, to improve safety there.
It's not the speed and it's not the road, it's the morons driving it. I drive that road three times a week and everytime I find myself cussing at another driver because they aren't paying attention or don't know/follow the simple rules of the highway. So until they make it safer with a cable barrier or ban stupid people from driving people will continue wrecking and possibly dying.
I usually don't drive on it during rush hour or game days, but I think otherwise traffic is pretty light. A lot of these accidents on K-10 have been happening during off peak times.
It's pretty straight and smooth, except there are some pretty bouncy areas adjacent to some of the bridges. There aren't any curves or steep grades that warrant special signs or anything.
There must be twice as many trucks on I-70, and they go 75. They do pay, maybe that keeps them on the road.
I can think of a few places that might less safe and could be lower, like near Noria road, which is already lowered. If I were to pick a place for a zone it would probably be the K-7 interchange. I don't know if there have been any accidents at that location, though, people seem to be aware enough to drive it OK.
stops4: Your correct about the left lane for passing, the problem with many drivers on K-10 is they interpret that to be the oncoming drivers left lane.
Here's a tip for bone-head Kansas drivers:
THE LEFT LANE IS THE PASSING LANE. GET OVER IF SOMEONE IS BEHIND YOU WANTING TO PASS!
ANOTHER THING: BLINKERS! PASS IT ON!
DID ANYONE IN THIS STATE TAKE DRIVERS ED?!?!?
It should be higher... facilitated by sufficient surface conditions and driver proficiency.
Rush hour traffic could accept slower speed limits. If daily intense enforcement is not part of the package what could is it?
Beyond that enforcing existing laws would be key regarding:
All of the above contribute to K-10 mishaps. Putting more people to work on the K-10 Traffic Control is preferred to spending millions upon millions upon millions on barriers that will not stop deaths. We need the K-10 Traffic Control Team and stiffer fines.
They can make the speed limit 40 or 100. It won't make any difference, as folks are going to drive as fast as they want anyway. As for enforcement, ask brownback to restore some budget money to the highway patrol so they have enough troopers to adequately patrol our highways. Also ask our county attorneys to start pushing for more severe penalties for breaking the laws. You get into people's wallets, they will start paying a little more attention. Until then, quit texting, talking on the phone, eating, reading and whatever else you do, and DRIVE. Have your brain in your head, not under the seat.
Yes if they can enforce it. Maybe lower it to 60 until you get past the "Bermuda Triangle" of K-10.
A question that has bothered me is: why the highway shoulders are paved in JOCO and gravel in Douglas County? The condition changes exactly at the county line. If you are traveling at 70 MPH in Douglas County and slip off into the shoulder, for whatever reason, it's "you've bought the farm"!!!! - somebody better call 911.
Does that mean along the paved shoulder or in the grass?~)
Speed limit is not the issue, enforcement is. Regardless of the posted speed limit on that stretch of road people ignore it. Many K-10 drivers are people who rarely drive under sensible highway conditions; many are just urban drivers that need to move the 20 miles from JoCo. to Lawrence and back for a variety of reasons.
people already go over 75 so whats the point?
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