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What grade would you give the Kansas University community, including university and city police, when it comes to handling student drinking?

Response Percent Votes
F
 
27% 228
D
 
23% 190
C
 
20% 165
B
 
10% 83
A
 
7% 62
Not sure
 
6% 51
Incomplete
 
4% 39
Total 818

Comments

pace 4 years, 1 month ago

I give the students the lowest grade. There is such a drunken culture in the greek system I am surprised that there are no deaths. Oh, there are.

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whats_going_on 4 years, 1 month ago

this was lame.

Seriously, get better questions.

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Steven Gaudreau 4 years, 1 month ago

It's a stupid question. How about asking how any city is dealing with 18-20 yr olds drinking? It's not a Lawrence problem dumbf*cks, it's a national problem.

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jumpin_catfish 4 years, 1 month ago

How many students come to KU without a drinking problem and leave with one? Get the stats on that one and you might know something. Drinking to excess is unwise and a crutch used many times by folks to feel comfortable in a group. Having grown up with a parent who had a drinking problem I swore I would never drink but in high school the peer pressure set in and I was not true to myself until later in my life when I gave it up altogether. That doesn't make me special just smarter then folks who have to get sh*t faced to have fun. But if you feel the need to throw it down, have at it but just don't kill an innocent person in the process.

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riverdrifter 4 years, 1 month ago

KU students partying in Manhattan? That is absurd!

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pfeifer 4 years, 1 month ago

riverdrifter:

Seriously? You can't blame the police for the entire town of manhattan, and a large portion of KU students for all partying on the same day. That's absurd.

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KCsFinest5 4 years, 1 month ago

Is this a joke? I'm a student, just turned 21, but I've basically been "21" for my entire time at KU. I've had 4 different fake IDs. Rarely did I need them at liquor stores. I even know of a friend who got into a bar with a fake ID of a different race. Why would anyone do anything if all of the bars and liquor stores are making the extra cash?

I really don't think the police care about this. Honestly I don't blame them. Getting "blasted" on the weekends in the freshman dorms is just as much as a tradition as the Rock Chalk chant.

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lindseydoyle 4 years, 1 month ago

Why is it the responsibility of the KU community? Are these children all orphans?

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jonas_opines 4 years, 1 month ago

Probably just as well as anywhere else. This is a cellege town, and college kids drink.

Pray tell, grammaddy, what more should they do?

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pfeifer 4 years, 1 month ago

They're doing pretty much everything within their power to at least make sure kids are safe. They can't do much more than that. We don't allow booze in the dorms (KSU does, if you're 21.) We allow RA's do search a room without probable cause (No other University that I know of does that). We require freshmen living in the dorms to complete an online alcohol safety course (again, never heard of anyone doing that). And we offer all kinds of transportation alternatives to students. I don't know what else they can do.

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Pywacket 4 years, 1 month ago

Sierraclub~ The "not sure"s might reflect the thoughts of objective folk who acknowledge that they don't have enough data on which to base a fair grade. A question such as today's should involve more than simple personal opinion--(as opposed to, say, "Do you like eggplant?").

It would be helpful to have some numbers and percentages such as: how do KU students stack up with students from comparable schools in terms of amount of alcohol typically consumed (daily basis, weekly basis), measurable negative effects such as # DUIs in a semester, # students requiring treatment for results of alcohol impairment, # students seeking counseling (or being directed there by parents, teachers, friends, etc), # or percentage of students who drop out due (if this can be established) to the effects of alcohol abuse, and any other measurable indications of how bad the problem is.

It would also help to know (again, with comparisons from other campus communities) exactly what strategies are employed by the university and surrounding community. Are parents drawn in and actively involved? Are effective campus rules (community laws) in place and, equally important, are they being enforced? If not, why not? Are some solutions that might be very effective legally impossible to enact?

It's easy to sit in our chairs, give a low grade, and opine that "there is so much more that can be done," but has fact-based analysis led to such opinions or do we start finger pointing (with no factual backup) after reading random news briefs that a drunk student has drunkenly fallen off a building, died of acute alcohol poisoning, or committed a vehicular homicide?

While it is tempting to condemn the university and the city when we are frustrated by needless drunken student casualties or crimes, is that really fair? Do we have enough facts at hand to know how much of the fault should lie with the university or city---rather than the student and the parents/community that produced him/her?

As for the "incomplete" answer, I'm as much in the dark as you are about that one! Perhaps another reader can enlighten us both.

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RadarC 4 years, 1 month ago

Maybe the choice Incomplete should have been incompetent?

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grammaddy 4 years, 1 month ago

I gave them a "D". There is so much more that can be done.

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Graczyk 4 years, 1 month ago

What's interesting about this poll is that we really don't know what the grades mean. For example, an 18 year old might give a D or F because she feels like she's getting hassled for having a good time. However, a 35 year old might give a D or F because he's sick of 18 year olds puking on his lawn. This poll really doesn't say much.

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sierraclub 4 years, 1 month ago

Not sure or Incomplete??? I love those answers!!!! Thanks LJWorld.

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