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Get out of our lives!
Ruin your own lungs...........not everyone else's
It should be the decision of the business owner. If people don't like establishments were smoking is permitted then they shouldn't go!!! How's that for healthy?
Are you serious areyouserious. If you don't want second-hand smoke avoid businesses that allow smoking. What - other than your holier than thou attitude - gives you the right to tell anyone how to live their life? Who appointed you and the others like you guardians of homo sapiens?
Women decide to have or not an abortion but thousands of business owners can't decide how to run their business!
This is an area where government, state, local or national doesn't belong.
STRS = Hypocrite.
I wish my New Years resolution to start smoking was going better. Government, where do you stop?
Again, nobody is saying that you have to stop smoking completely...you just can't smoke inside. I've never understood the problem with walking 20 feet to smoke outside. AWWWW, is it too cold outside for you poor smokers?
SettingTheRecordStraight (Anonymous) says:
Which part of our lives, exactly? Because if memory serves, on at least one issue in particular, you favor government intervention.
Those of you who are complaining of the Government intrusion into your life regarding smoking are silent when it comes to other areas of government intrusion, namely a womens right to choose. Lest I invoke the Zones of Privacy laid forth in Griswold v. Connecticut, and upheld in the demonized Roe V. Wade. Surely, In this area you advocate Government intervention.
Now I am sure that some of you will claim that one is the senseless murder of innocent children and the other is a personal choice made by adults and based on freedom. Shall I remind you that more people die from smoking related lung and heart issues than all the abortions performed in America. Now, surely, a portion of those are from second-hand exposure.
Starting to see the hypocracy?
no i do not agree with it. 'nuff said.
"Moderate"guy and HodgePodge,
I'm happy to respond to your posts, but you'll have to be clearer. I don't know what you're talking about.
Lot of conservatives with liberal attitudes on this one. You are already allowed to pack heat and sit down next to me in a restaurant. You can consume what ever you want just don't make me consume it, then tell me I can choose to not go there. Your right, It is your choice to drive the cost of health care past 49 million Americans reach.
I misspelled Hypocrisy. My apologies.
I haven't seen any negative business effects to smoking bans. The bars and restaurants are still full. However, smoking is still legal, and allowing smoking should really be up to the individual businesses.
Get out of our lives!"
You can't be serious?
There are many, many areas where the government must intervene in the interest of public safety, and I for one am glad that they do. Look at car laws. Do you have the right to remove the brake lights from your car? Do you have the right to drive without liability insurance? Do you have the right to drive under the influence? These are all decisions that have a potentially negative impact on others around you, and imagine the consequences if these matters were left up to individual discretion.
You cannot rely on individual establishments, which are in the business of making money, to make choices in the interest of public safety. This is why we have a government.
Sadly Marion, you are going to be the one looking like a zombie when the smoking catches up with you. You'll weigh about 80 lbs or so with skin hanging off of you and sunken in eyes. You wont be able to eat a decent meal, and will be on oxygen 24/7. You'll be unable to shuffle across the room or go to the bathroom without stopping to catch your breath.
The rest of us just don't want the same fate due to your choice to smoke (which I support by the way.) I believe you should be able to do anything you want to do as long as it doesn't harm anybody else. Smoking around others fails that basic test though.
Ban the smoking. But why stop with inside? Sidewalks, streeets and parks are public places too. Take the cigarettes home.
My mother's smoking caused a bleeding stomach ulcer, she survived that and quit smoking, but was plagued the rest of her life, because she could not take pain medicine for her arthritis. She did live to be 80, but her last few years were fairly miserable.
You can smell up your own home all you want and smoke outside, but since I'm seldom have to breathe in the nasty fumes, I am much healthier. And I never smoked.
oh, just evolve
you really have no choice
What will they want to ban next? Don't kid yourself, the next thing that the will want to ban is breastfeeding in public!
All the talk about restricting government involvement. If this poll is even a close representation of the general public, then ban smoking statewide. The government of the people has asked for it.
I would much rather they ban cell phones in public places than smoking. Smoking is only mildly annoying to be around, a moron talking really loud on the phone and that has no clue of anything or anyone around them is much more annoying.
I don't think we'll see a statewide ban. Kansas is too backward as a whole. But we'll see some more forward-thinking communities pass them. Who cares if smokers smoke outside. Many smokers like to smoke outside. It's not a ban on smoking, it's only a ban on smoking INDOORS.
It shouldn't be statewide -- it should be nationwide.
Maybe the govt. should be forced to make the cigarette companys quit adding nicotine to tobacco!
curb the addiction!
Small steps first!
scenebooster (Anonymous) says:
So, STRS - still waiting to hear how you reconcile your "Government, Get out of our lives!" view of a smoking ban (which I am totally against) with your "Government! Tell us how to live" stance re: abortion:
I put my money on no response.
Isn't it ironic how some people jump all over STRS when he interjects his pro-life stance into a topic that has nothing to do with abortion but then some of the same people throw abortion into this topic.
Give it a rest people.
As for the topic at hand, I love the idea of a statewide smoking ban in resturants. I didn't realize how much I loved being able to go into a resturant and not have to inhale smoke here in Lawrence until I went to the Olive Garden in Topeka recently. Yuck! It doesn't matter how far away they try to seperate the smokers from the non-smokers, we still smell it and inhale it. So, I'm all for it in government buildings, hospitals, schools and resturants.
As for bars, I'm a little on the fence. I kind of figure that if you are in a bar at midnight, your health really isn't what you are thinking about. You are thinking about getting drunk, getting laid or something else but probably not your health. So if a bar wants to allow smoking say after 11:00 p.m., it should be allowed.
One of the reasons prohibition failed in this country was because all alcohol was banned. It should have been where all hard liquor was banned but not beer and wine. I think if we are going to have a statewide smoking ban, there should be some sort of compromise with the bars.
No matter who you are, eventually you will enjoy something many do not. So the government will ban it. It these bans get too many and too ridiculous, respect for the law will cease to exist. Then, the law becomes an idea, not a rule. I think we are already there with speed limits. Soon, most laws will simply be ignored. Excuse me while I go shot off some fireworks.
Ban round a bouts. I enjoy them too much for my own good. actually i am addicted.
Smokers get out of my lungs
Seems funny that all the people who don't want the smoking but feel free to drink all you want. I beat if they allowed the places to sell cigs for 3 bucks apeice they (the gov that is) would not even mess with the smoking issue
Smoking should be treated like wearing seat belts and motorcycle helmets. Wear them/ smoke them if you want to.
I love smoking, the taste, the motion, the sexiness; however, I was lucky in that no one I knew well smoked when I was younger, so I never really started. Now I smoke the very occasional cigarette, but that's it.
Having said that, smoking is harmful to the people around you. (And I am an avid second hand smoker, so don't accuse me of being prejudiced.) The thing is that one person's liberties end when they infringe on the liberties of another. If smoking was just mildly annoying to others, like small children in restaurants, I would say that the government should stay out of it. But smoking can kill the people around you, give them higher risks of all kinds of affliction of the lungs and heart, and spark serious reactions in people with asthma or allergies.
Smoking is your right, and personally I love to sit in smoky bars, but it simply isn't fair to the people who have to work there day in and day out or to other customers around you. The ban protects others' right to live unharmed.
Smoke outside, and I'll come with you and inhale a little by choice, rather than by force.
Smoking should be banned in public places. It is harmful to others that do not smoke including children. Cigarettes should also be taxed more, and people who smoke should pay higher insurance premiums than those that do not. Smoking related illness is a major drag on our health care system, and one that is totally avoidable.
The difference between smoking and drinking is smoke travels at will. Alcohol stays put and does not necessarily annoy others.
merrill (Anonymous) says:
Clearly you have never been to Spring Break. :)
No. I think a statewide smoking ban sucks. Never the less I think it will pass. The whiny sissy anti smokers have all the experts lined up in their corner.
I'll just smoke outside and wait for the day they decide to outlaw fatty foods or soft drinks or any number of other things that are deemed "unhealthy". So I can LMAO. And you know as well as I do...it will happen someday.
I am sure sooner or later someone will get the idea to open an underground establishment were (GASP) smoking is allowed. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
Smokers do pay more for insurance already.
Sure, ban smoking. Hey wait, ban tobacco products. What? You mean you make too much money off the taxes from the sales? Well now, isn't this having your cake and eating it too? I'll support your smoking ban on a cold day in hell. Hypocrites.
still having a wonderful internet life.
I agree with it.
I am a smoker. I don't smoke anywhere around my daughter, or even in my own home. Yes I have the right to smoke, but I DO NOT have the right to kill my daughter or anyone else for that matter.
However, I don't think anyone has the right to tell a business owner if it can be smoking or not smoking, as long as said business pays his taxes and keeps their licenses current, should be business owners choice.
Non Smokers, DO NOT have to visit, go into places that allow smoking, no one puts a gun to your head and forces you into smoking establishsments. Go to a non smoking place of business...
Just My opinion.
I agree but ONLY for government buildings, not privately owned businesses.
The government does not have the authority to make a state wide ban being in the form of a Repulic. This would be nothing more than a raw power grab. (We are not a democracy, but a republic, which means no mob rule or majority rule, but the minorities are also protected in favor of freedom). Even if they did make this bad law, it would be impossible to enforce. It would be a bad and worthless law. It would only end up inviting the government to intrude into your homes to enforce bad law. (Violation of the 4th amendment at a minimum).
I am not a smoker. If you don't like smoke, go where you can breathe fresh air and stop your whining. There are plenty of places that you can breathe smoke free air already. Don't try to unjustly award government more power than they should have by pushing a smoking ban that would be bad law and invite government intrusions and conflicts with citizens.
I am non smoker. But I dont think peoplr have a right to ban smoking. where s the freedom of choice . In fact second hand smoke is not going to kill u even if u go through a thick cloud of it. Think of this. You are getting off the buss and when it takes off u are left covered with a black smoke all over you. Should we ban busses??? I think banning smoking is going to affect buisness as well. So if you dont like to breath smoke from sigaretts wear a gas mask.
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