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What do you think of President Bush commuting Scooter Libby’s sentence?

Response Percent Votes
It’s the wrong thing to do
73% 248
It’s the right thing to do
25% 85
1% 6
Total 339


gccs14r 10 years, 11 months ago

It's just the latest in a long string of criminal acts by this administration. I wish Congress would do the right thing and impeach Bush and Cheney.

Godot 10 years, 11 months ago

This was the right thing to do. I am very interested in seeing the appeals process play itself out.

overthemoon 10 years, 11 months ago

don't forget bush 1 pardons...and reagan's, too. he pardoned the whole d****ed lot of iran-contra crooks. In fact, bush 2 has pardoned very few, playing the 'tough on crime' tape. clinton's pardons, I believe, came after some amount of time served as is customary by exec branch guidelines. see this for an interesting look from the legal analysis folks,,,

If 30 months was too much, why not lower it to twenty, ten or five. 30 to 0 is a pretty drastic reduction that mocks the entire process. so what else is new?

overthemoon 10 years, 11 months ago

For your convenience, here is the text of the link noted above. It is from a law professor specializing in sentencing laws.

Among the fascinating aspects of Lewis Libby's now upcoming sentencing is that his high-profile case resembles in various ways the case of Victor Rita, the defendant whose 33-month (within-guideline) sentence is currently under review by the US Supreme Court. I detailed some Libby-Rita parallels in this post last month, and here are the major highlights.

  1. The parallel nature of the crimes. Like Lewis Libby, Victor Rita got caught up in a criminal investigation and ultimately was indicted on five felony counts based on allegations that he lied under oath as part of the investigation. And, like Libby, Victor Rita asserted his innocence and exercised his right to a jury trial. (Victor was convicted of all five counts at trial; Libby's was acquitted on one of five counts, but that may not matter much for sentencing purposes.)

  2. The parallel personal history. Like Lewis Libby, Victor Rita is an atypical federal defendant because of his career in government service. Rita served 24 years in the Marine Corps, had tours of duty in Vietnam and the first Gulf war, received over 35 military metals and awards. Libby's pre-conviction resume is (equally?) impressive. The federal guidelines do not provide any formal breaks for government service or prior good works. But, with Booker making the guidelines advisory, federal judges have more discretion to consider these matters at sentencing (though Rita's sentencing judge decided just to follow the guidelines).

Since Victor Rita's crimes seems, in context, to be less serious than Lewis Libby's crimes, I view Rita's 33-month sentence as a possible benchmark for Libby's sentence. Moreover, I have heard that Judge Walton has a reputation as a tough sentencing judge, and so Victor Rita's 33 month sentence might even be viewed as just a floor for considering Libby's fate.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 10 years, 11 months ago

"I am very interested in seeing the appeals process play itself out."

What's the point? Bush has already appointed himself judge, jury and appellate justice, and will almost certainly fully pardon Libby before he leaves office, regardless of what happens on appeal.

Actually, I expect Libby to drop his appeal. I'm guessing that was part of the deal for commuting the sentence. BushCo wants this out of the news.

karmaxs3 10 years, 11 months ago

He had to do it...after all, Libby was only doing what Bush told him to do in the first place! Now Bush had to step up and keep him out of jail for "following orders". Zieg Haile.

jlw53 10 years, 11 months ago

Marc Rich. Remember that name from the Clinton pardons?

But that was all OK to the "unbiased" mainstream media.

Hypocrisy never ceases to amaze.

coneflower 10 years, 11 months ago

Clinton should not have issued those pardons either.

That doesn't make Bush right to give Libby a free pass.

The Libby free pass hurts Bush and, by extension, the whole Republican party. Besides showing disregard for the law and our justice system, it screams that these crony criminals are all in it together. Any casual observer can see this was Bush's payoff to Libby for not telling the truth.

yourworstnightmare 10 years, 11 months ago

There has been much invocation of Marc Rich here. Let's not forget that Bill Clinton was lambasted in the media and from the right and left for this pardon. The Marc Rich pardon dominated headlines for the better part of a week, full of conspiracy theories about murder, drugs, cover-ups and the Clintons.

yourworstnightmare 10 years, 11 months ago

Clinton is to this day being judged for the Rich pardon. I have a suspicion Bush wil not fare well in the crucible of history, and this will be one of the linchpins of the historical case against him.

yourworstnightmare 10 years, 11 months ago

Interesting how the "rightt thing to do" vote here mirrors Bush's national approval rating.

blackwalnut 10 years, 11 months ago

Godot (Anonymous) says: I am very interested in seeing the appeals process play itself out.

Why? Republicans have made a mockery of our courts. The appeal will reveal nothing. Bush has made it clear: lie for me, I'll pardon you. The GOP's I Do Not Recall tactic, started by Reagan and North and repeated ad nauseum by every Bushbot who is called to testify, has made it impossible to ever get at any truth through our courts. That is why Libby deserved time for his crime of perjury - he made it impossible to get at the truth. It does matter that the lie was about an extremely serious matter with large consequences for our nation.

No truth will come out of any appeal. Bush, with his willingness to erase the work the courts have done, has accomplished that - and that, of course, suppressing the truth is his goal. He has everything to lose if the truth is known.

Why anyone supports this obfuscation, I have no idea. If you believe these people are innocent, why do you support their stonewalling and perjury? Why do you think they have so much to hide?

Get ready for months of more lying, if the appeals process goes forward. It won't. Libby knows a pardon is waiting for him after the election.

jumpin_catfish 10 years, 11 months ago

pardoning the fall guy makes sense he got hosed in all of this

beatrice 10 years, 11 months ago

30 months falls in line with others who have been found guilty for doing similar things. The funny thing is that Bush appointed this judge because he was supposedly tough on crime. Now, defense lawyers will be using Bush's words to help their clients get lighter sentences. Bush doesn't say Libby was innocent, just that he was given too heavy a sentence. The silence from most Republicans indicates their consent. This is a case of perhaps being careful of what you ask for -- as now it shows that Republicans stand with the President for soft punishment on crime.

If the media ignored Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich, as some have suggested, how is it possible that we all know about it? Did we all just share this bit of info with thought waves? Or perhaps we all read the papers and saw the news reports. That was an ugly pardon, I'll agree. This is worse, since Libby was apparently breaking the law at the request of the Bush administration.

Brian Conrad 10 years, 11 months ago

economy and most things better under Clinton, but he was pounding out the PARDONS like Christmas presents. Dozens! Pardon way worse than commute sentence....... WOW how Amazing so many out for blood. hope it will not be same old Impeach - Impeach with next Democratic President.

Jaminrawk 10 years, 11 months ago

Who cares about Marc Rich? That has nothing to do with Scooter Libby. Clinto shouldn't have pardoned Rich but that should have no bearing on Libby. G.W. has officially burned the GOP with this one. Good luck getting a republican voted into office in the upcoming presidential election.

erod0723 10 years, 11 months ago

To answer the poll question, I think Bush is an incomprehensible douchebag, but this country has shown amazing progressiveness in regards to equal rights by electing the first mentally retarded president.

50YearResident 10 years, 11 months ago

Bush, (say Chaney) had to commute the sentence or Libby was going to spill his guts and name the real offender.

james bush 10 years, 11 months ago

I think the "real offender" was Armitage, a guy who woked for Powell.

blackwalnut 10 years, 11 months ago

Here's what I think of it:

Nobody is surprised. Everyone expected it after the election. That is likely why the judge refused to delay Libby's jail service - because he knew Bush had a pardon in mind, later.

I think even conservatives can see Bush has something to hide, and is a liar and an obstructor of justice.

The poll here reflects the national polls on this. Unless conservatives are down to 25%, that means a whole lot of conservatives share my opinion about this.

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