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KU discusses investigation into ticket operations

May 26, 2010, 10:11 a.m. Updated May 26, 2010, 2:29 p.m.

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Kansas University will release the results of an "independent investigation" into the ticket scandal that is ongoing in its athletic department.

University and athletic officials will convene at 1:45 today to discuss the report, prepared by Wichita law firm Foulston Siefkin LLP. The report is now available on KUsports.com.

The press conference was originally supposed to begin at 1:30, but was delayed after the report wasn't made available until about 1:15 p.m.

Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little, Athletics Director Lew Perkins, University General Counsel Jim Pottorff and Jack Focht of Foulston Siefkin will speak at the press conference.

The report is set to be released the same day that Yahoo Sports reported new details of the scandal and also implicated former KU star Roger Morningstar in a vast ticket scalping ring. Morningstar declined to discuss the matter with Yahoo Sports.

The news conference is closed to the public however KUsports.com will provide a live video feed from the press conference in partnership with Sunflower Broadband's Channel 6 in Lawrence.

Check back a little before 1:45 p.m. for the press conference and keep checking back this morning for updates.

Comments

Richard Andrade 5 years, 2 months ago

Oh, uh. You guys just got scooped by Yahoo! Sports.

ModerateOne 5 years, 2 months ago

Read the Yahoo story. David Freeman is a convicted criminal in part because he is a con man who tells half (or less) truths. Thank goodness the LJW doesn't run stories based on info coming from Freeman.

kansasredlegs 5 years, 2 months ago

Apparently, the Federal Government thought enough of his "half (or lesss) truths" to have another individual placed in Federal Prison. Seems a jury also believed him.

Convicted doesn't mean "liar." Keep your head buried in the sand, oh ModerateOne. Con men and criminals saunter up to the KU Athletic Department when it is in its interest which is MONEY, then when the house of cards falls, it's people like yourself who want to say, Freeman is a criminal and con man. If you know Mr. Freeman, you'd know by a long shot that your were getting into something you should have walked away from, but it was for the MONEY... So, no sympathy for KU Athletics. Also, since happened on Lew's watch, time for him to fall on his sword and resign. BTW: What's the NCAA provision for Lack of Institutional Control? Hope Big Lew has read up on that one. See ya around, Lew

ModerateOne 5 years, 2 months ago

Good call kansasredlegs, but you missed the point. The part (half?) of the story where Freeman said he bribed Commissioner Wunder was apparently true. A lot of other information Freeman provided about Junction City (the other half?) was apparently not.

As for KU tickets, the part (half?) about Rodney Jones involvement was apparently true. I personally hope that the part (the other half?) about Roger Morningstar is not.

opobserver 5 years, 2 months ago

I hope this means so indictments will be coming down,

Uhjh 5 years, 2 months ago

I certainly hope this is a ligament report and not tainted by any spin from the athletic staff. It really needs to address the point system also. The rules need to be public and adhered to. Given previous junk speak I am not too optimistic this will be 100% transparent. With millions of dollars involved and rigging of the point system someone should have been on top of the situation and the ultimate responsibility rest with Big Lew. Where were the controls? There will always be a rancorous taint on the ticket sales and a serious doubt by every donor in the point system. Given the gravity of the situation and the crimes commented this is beyond the Athletic Department and more than an internal is merited. It is time for the Chancellor to show some authority and conduct a total investigation.

Lisa Rasor 5 years, 2 months ago

If it's not a ligament report, does that mean there's a tendon to exaggerate?

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Well considering that the Yahoo story is all about 2002 and 2003 BEFORE lew got here....yeah, he didn't have much to do with it then.

sherbert 5 years, 2 months ago

p>KUsports.com reports the press conference is to relay results from their 'internal' investigation, LJW says 'independent' investigation. A bit of a difference there.

sherbert 5 years, 2 months ago

okay, kusports.com now says 'independent', their FB report 51 minutes ago says 'internal', maybe they have both.

Alfred_W 5 years, 2 months ago

I believe the "Internal" investigation was conducted by an "Independent" party (i.e. the above mentioned law firm). So both would technically be correct.

cjv 5 years, 2 months ago

What a coincidence! Yahoo! breaks the story and suddenly the KU report is ready to be released.

Is this a "Death Penalty" investigation, by the way? This is the worst lapse of institutional control since SMU in thr 1980s.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Well considering it doesn't have anything to do with the play or athletes on the field....NO.

It has all to do with tickets, and there will be nothing close to any "death penalty" for KU athletics.

cjv 5 years, 2 months ago

The counter to that, of course, is a player's dad was allowed by KU to launder money and avoid paying taxes on it. The KU AD would have been operating like an organized criminal syndaicate.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

"Allowed by KU."

Hahahaha yea. Sure.

Lisa Rasor 5 years, 2 months ago

These are all allegations from a dubious source. Nothing's been proven yet.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

Looks like it's not just a KU deal. It probably involves dozens of the top schools in the NCAA, their athletic department staffs and coaches.

Or will it just get swept under the rug after tagging a few lowly scapegoats?

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Most definitely. Not just a KU thing. But it'll continue to happen at other schools. You can be sure of that.

Uhjh 5 years, 2 months ago

fixed some typos I certainly hope this is a legitimate report and not tainted by any spin from the athletic staff. It really needs to address the point system also. The rules need to be public and adhered to. Given previous junk speak I am not too optimistic this will be 100% transparent. With millions of dollars involved and rigging of the point system someone should have been on top of the situation and the ultimate responsibility rest with Big Lew. Where were the controls? There will always be a rancorous taint on the ticket sales and a serious doubt by every donor in the point system. Given the gravity of the situation and the crimes commented this is beyond the Athletic Department and more than an internal review is merited. It is time for the Chancellor to show some authority and conduct a total investigation. No matter how much a review is independent if those conducting it are paid by parties with a vested interest the results can be manipulated. Surely it has been reviewed before publishing.

hungryhustler 5 years, 2 months ago

Neither one of you knuckleheads know Roger. I'll bet Bob is a tremendous father, between the hours and hours he spends online trying to come up with a clever comment to make on the LJWorld webstie, of course.

"Daddy...."

"Not now! Can't you see that a new question on the street just got posted!?! I have to be one of the first to post something clever and or contriversial!! You can walk to school!"

opobserver 5 years, 2 months ago

Go to yahoo sports and you don't have to wait until 1:30. They have the whole scoop. Jones made 800,000. How many years will he serve with Freeman for this?

4everahawk 5 years, 2 months ago

The situation started in 2002, but has flourished, or so it appears, continuously since. Lew was hired in mid 2003. He hired Charlette and Ben and promoted Rodney to his Wms. Fund position in 2004. How was this mess not discovered inhouse??

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Yep. Kansas Basketball had a lot to do with this. Moron. More like dirty dirty Kansas ticket office.

cjv 5 years, 2 months ago

The KU AD was going to sweep this under the rug until Yahoo! broke the story. Suddenly, the report is available the same day. Will any reporter ask them when they had otherwise planned on releasing it? Sunday over the Memorial Day weekend perhaps?

guess_again 5 years, 2 months ago

Read the Yahoo story....

Dana and David Pump ..."Colleges often employ their “ChampSearch” consulting firm during coaching searches, and they’re also known for their youth basketball camps and their Pump N’ Run summer traveling basketball teams"


Has KU or KU athletic officials ever utilized the Pumps' "ChampSearch" services?

Has KU or KU athletic officials donated to or attended the Pumps' "well-known and lavish annual charity retreat for coaches and athletic directors."

Are their other ties between KU Athletics and the Pumps? Camp participation, etc?

For Athletic Directors to be so chummy with the Pumps and simultaneously not be aware of the Pumps reputation (they don't deny selling all these tickets) and their sales of championship tickets strikes me a bit odd, at the very least.

Lew is a big boy. He knows full well that big money can bring bad influences. If he has been involved with the Pumps by attending "well-known and lavish annual retreats," then he is part of the problem. The Chancellor needs to be on top of this big time.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

If you actually read the article you would be able to answer most all of your own questions.

Keith 5 years, 2 months ago

This is the investigation that doesn't matter, the one KU can use to spin information to blunt the investigation that does matter, the Federal one.

penguin 5 years, 2 months ago

I think everyone that was hoping this would be the "Get Lew" story are going to be disappointed. The Yahoo article says that the situation "may have" extended beyond 2003. It sounds like it is focused on the end of Al "crushed like a dove" Bohl's tenure as AD. In addition, the article also seems to indicate that this is sort of a crack in the damn that could implicate many other colleges.

"The scope, breadth and duration of the scalping business – which included Big 12 and NCAA tournament tickets – extended beyond Kansas to other schools, a source told federal authorities."

Also Yahoo Sports is great at breaking big stories that end in nothing. They broke the Jim Calhoun story about his major recruiting violations involving former recruit Nate Miles. This story came out in March. This month, Calhoun just signed a 5 year-13 Million Dollar contract. So just a warning that the story regardless of how flashy it sounds now might not lead to a whole lot. I'm not saying that makes it right, but just the way things have been happening.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/6826382

Read that story. The NCAA knows stuff like this goes on...has for years. They turn a blind eye and try not to see it.

guess_again 5 years, 2 months ago

The cbs article is an interesting read Vinny. But no, I still do not know if KUs AD's or Coaches attend the Pumps annual luxury junkette, give them tickets, or hire the brothers' services.

And I would like to know. This stink goes beyond the boys running the KU ticket office and scumbag Freeman.

The fact that NCAA hasn't blown the whistle on the Pumps is interesting. But the NCAA doesn't get too far in front of where the university presidents and AD's want them to go.

Which is a group (that is the presidents) which should be questioned if this is really how championship tickets should be handled, and what kind of ethics AD's and coaches should have in interactions with people like the Pumps.

What are we after all? Just another Missouri?

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

The article said both Lew and Bill attend the charity events. And no, KU has not hired the service.

But if you want to know more about these "power broking brothers" here is another good read.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jo-pumps040108

yankeevet 5 years, 2 months ago

The University of Kansas will release results of an investigation into alleged wrongdoing involving the athletics ticket office and the Williams Fund on Wednesday.

The university will hold a news conference at 1:30 p.m. Watch it live on KMBC.com.

Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little, athletics director Lew Perkins, as well as general council and an investigator will discuss the findings.

Yahoo! Sports published an article Wednesday on the ticket scandal. In the report, Lawrence real-state developer David Freeman claimed that he, former Kansas director of ticket operations Rodney Jones and alum Roger Morningstar -- the father of basketball player Brady Morningstar -- scalped tickets that netted all three hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Last year, Freeman was caught up in a federal bribery case. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit bank fraud.

yankeevet 5 years, 2 months ago

Jeeeeeeezz what a bunch of crooks..........

booklover 5 years, 2 months ago

This is not what I think they mean they sing "One Shining Moment" Dang! We are just screwed. We are going to lose a lot of big time personnel on this one. I'm thinking, Lew, Self, Morningstar, Chalmers, maybe even Manning.... They all have dirty hands now. Especially with their kids playing for the Pumps. And look at all the players and ex players connected. I'm thinking we could even lose some hardware over this one. Which isn't fair at all the players on the team did nothing wrong, but.... oh those dirty scandalous "Adults" !

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

bahahaha you have no idea what you're talking about.

We lose no one. No trophys. Nothing.

KC Pump n'Run is the best AAU team in the region. Obviously the best players are going to play for them. That has nothing to do with the Pumps.

Before you start talking about what you have no idea do a little research. How many recruits don't come to KU that play for other schools.

And before you comment more read this article. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/6826382

sherbert 5 years, 2 months ago

If the NCAA knows it's going on and doesn't do anything to the big guys, then the little guys shouldn't get taken down either. Sounds like it's going on all over the country and is an accepted practice.

guess_again 5 years, 2 months ago

Learn more about the Pump brothers.... the ones who knowingly approached KU Athletics employees to obtain tickets through improper channels. They knew what they were doing....these tickets were being diverted illegally. I am still curious about other KU ties to these guys. Perhaps an investigation should occur at a level above Lew to investigate his ties to these brothers. I highly doubt that Lew's internal-independent investigation covers this.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jo-pumps040108

ilovelucy 5 years, 2 months ago

Those of us that know Freeman know to believe about 1/4 of what comes out of his mouth. He's trying to take the heat off of himself as much as anything. Loved the story about the "goodfellas" dude that hides behind every door.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

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guess_again 5 years, 2 months ago

So, Freeman was wrong to turn in lawbreakers to improve his position? How do you think most criminal investigations actually work?

Uhjh 5 years, 2 months ago

All of this was only caught due to a singing criminal trying to cut a deal. So Lew gets scooped and HAS TO release the report. If it was truly independent the company conducting the report would have released it when completed. So when was it finished yesterday or maybe last week? I confident some review was conducted and revisions made. It now has the earmarks of spin which is pathetic. I hope this does not reach so far as to hurt the actual sports. I am extremely interested in the University’s response.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

Will they pull an Axelrod and claim they found nothing inappropriate?

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

I'm illiterate?

What are you so angry about there little buddy?

K_Verses_The_World 5 years, 2 months ago

First thing I thought of when I saw that photo of the Pump twins:

Tweedle-dee Dee is a lowdown, sorry old man Tweedle-dee Dum, he’ll stab you where you stand “I’ve had too much of your company,” Says Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee Dee

Bob Dylan - Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum

otto 5 years, 2 months ago

What do you do with that much cash? Do you go to the bank and make a deposit -- This is how the rich operate - LOL

opobserver 5 years, 2 months ago

In response to "Ilovelucy"....You stated "For those of us who know Freeman know to believe about 1/4 of what comes out of his mouth" Insert Rodney Jones and you have the same sentiments. After all Jones and Freeman were "close" friends. Two of a kind I say.

4everahawk 5 years, 2 months ago

The article states that Lew and Coach Self attend the Pumps high-end gatherings...

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Well its 1:08 and the report is still not on KUSports. Maybe you shouldn't make deadlines you can't meet.

Kent Fisher 5 years, 2 months ago

The report will be made available at 1 p.m. and will be immediately posted to KUsports.com.

Where the flip is it???

cjv 5 years, 2 months ago

it's there.

it was quite a massive conspiracy, reaching very high into the KU AD. don't listen to vinny1.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

yeah, sure don't listen to me. Go ahead and list off what I am wrong about.

Kent Fisher 5 years, 2 months ago

The report will be made available at 1 p.m. and will be immediately posted to KUsports.com.

Where the flip is it???

cjv 5 years, 2 months ago

I just read the summary of the report. It is quite damning for KU. This wasn't "boosters run amok"- it was an organized criminal enterprise being run out of 2 Assistant AD's offices at the University. KU should get the Death Penalty.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Again, what should KU get the death penalty for?

That penalizes the teams. This had nothing to do with the teams.

cjv 5 years, 2 months ago

It's called a "loss of institutional control"- the KU AD let a mafia-styled ticket shark business be run from large corner offices in the AD building. Several Assistant or Associate AD's directly involved in criminal actiivity.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

"loss of institutional control" haha looks like they caught it reletively quickly and its back under control.

And if you think the NCAA will do anything about this you are either out of touch, or in complete denial.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Sorry buddy. Lew isn't going anywhere.

And if you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't say Lew restricted how far they dug.

Jonathan Kealing 5 years, 2 months ago

We agree. It is a basic need. Unfortunately, KU controlled the audio and failed to provide that mic. Our choices were either audio of the crowd or audio of the speakers. We had to choose the speakers but were extremely disappointed that KU failed to provide a mic to hear the questions.

kusp8 5 years, 2 months ago

How are you a "Former KU Alumn"? Aren't you always a KU Alumn or a "Former KU Student Athlete"?

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

Alight Jack. You were, and still are the high school nerd who has never done anything with your life.

I promise you Lew will not be fired for this stuff.
If you're still crying about the Mangino thing its obvious you just have a bias against Lew. What happened to Mangino would have happened at any school in the nation.

Vinny1 5 years, 2 months ago

haha yep. Except I was more like a half mile. Quarter mile is nothing.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 2 months ago

One would believe that all who purchased tickets at astronomical dollars must have known these were 'hot" as in illegal.

opobserver 5 years, 2 months ago

At least it's not far up the road to Leavenworth for the elite six.

Motownkat 5 years, 2 months ago

Wow! Someone should investigate how much Self knew about this! He is responsible for the program, regardless of whether he actually delivered the tickets or not! You don't get any sleazier than the Pump Bros! I agree with many on here, if players were bought with tickets the NCAA should be involved and Final Four appearances taken away. Kansas just gets off probation and now this!

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