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October 21, 2009

Mark Rudd, a co-founder of the 1960s and 1970s political activism group the Weathermen, will speak in Lawrence at several events starting Nov. 5.

Rudd, who went into hiding after a Weathermen bomb accidentally killed three Weathermen members, will be at the Oread Book Store, 1311 Oread, from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. Nov. 5 for a reading and signing of his new book, “Underground: My Life in SDS and the Weathermen.”

Rudd also will attend a pot luck from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Nov. 6 at the ECM Building, 1204 Oread, and will introduce a documentary about the Weathermen following the dinner.

Rudd will be in Lawrence until Nov. 10, and is available to speak to groups about his experiences. For more information, send an e-mail to bacjb@ku.edu.

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21 October 2009
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TheOriginalCA (Anonymous) says…

WOW, a terrorist visits KU. Close by are his buddies Mr. Obama, Ayers, and Dohrn.
21 October 2009
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KUgrad09 (Anonymous) says…

This is a little shocking… Lawrence must be getting desperate for speakers.
21 October 2009
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cabella (Anonymous) says…

WTF… this guy is a terrorist/murderer and the LJWorld is calling him a Political activist?
21 October 2009
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UfoPilot (Anonymous) says…

Shouldn't he be in jail? There is no statute of limitations for murder.
21 October 2009
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63BC (Anonymous) says…

Folks, this is beyond the legitimate and every day disagreements responsible citizens have about politics.

There are lots of “political activists” of all stripes worthy to be heard at an institutuion of learning. KU hosts many of them.

This guy is not one of them.

This guy is the founder of a terrorist group.
21 October 2009
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cabella (Anonymous) says…

“Rudd also will attend a pot luck from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Nov. 6 at the ECM Building, 1204 Oread, and will introduce a documentary about the Weathermen following the dinner.”
So he`s recruiting…
21 October 2009
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Frightwig (Anonymous) says…

The Weather Men that were killed died while they were making a bomb that they intended to detonate at a servicemans' ball. No loss of innocent life; consider it a Darwin Award. Several years later, however, Rudd's group killed a security guard and two police officers in a botched attempt to rob a Brinks truck. If this guy has ever done anything noble or worthwhile, I'd like to hear it. All I see is a track record of failure.

21 October 2009
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yourworstnightmare (Anonymous) says…

Yep, he was a terrorist. The Weathermen used bombings nd other threats of violence.
21 October 2009
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

They must be hoping to attract a crowd of (other than the ever present old hippies) young people who do not remember the terrible things they did.

Hawklets, prepare your self with facts before attending the propaganda spouted by this terrorist. Wonder how much financial compensation he received for the visit.
21 October 2009
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cabella (Anonymous) says…

So who is sponsoring this?
21 October 2009
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

Once again the LJW completely discredits itself. The only acceptable headline for this article is “Terrorist and murderer comes out of hiding to be feted at KU by fawning apologists at KU.”

I imagine that the publisher of his book is the same one that published “Dreams of my Father.” Heck, maybe he and Obama had the same ghost writer.
21 October 2009
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jimincountry (Anonymous) says…

Obama's Hope and Change is alive and well in the people's republic of Lawrence. Sorry……….the devil made me say it!
21 October 2009
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kusp8 (Anonymous) says…

I believe this is sponsored by the Alliance for Dumb People's Alliance, co-sponsored by the Department of Redundancy Department.
21 October 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

But for their incompetence at bomb-making, the Weathermen could have been the #1 mass killers in American history for a couple of decades.
21 October 2009
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Practicality (Anonymous) says…

The average mentality around Lawrence.

Ann Coulter Bad. Protests and disrespect surround her speaking engagement.

Mark Rudd Good. Pot-Luck dinners and labeled as a Political Activist.

Now, take a guess at which one was involved in robberies and murder.

21 October 2009
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monkeyhawk (Anonymous) says…

I wonder if the less-than-honorable Mr. Rudd will be afforded the same courtesy as Ann Coulter was?
21 October 2009
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nugget (Anonymous) says…

I don't see what the big deal is. Ann Coulter visited and was paid $40K to speak on campus. Wackos from both sides of the isle in my opinion. Journal World doesn't care, as long as WE keep showing up in large masses to justify their web ad rates, which apparently, I just contributed to.

Meh.
21 October 2009
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monkeyhawk (Anonymous) says…

Psychic, Practicality …
21 October 2009
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grimpeur (Anonymous) says…

“This guy is the founder of a terrorist group.”

Troy Newman is coming to KU?
21 October 2009
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Practicality (Anonymous) says…

LOL at Monkeyhawk! Great minds think alike!
21 October 2009
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monkeyhawk (Anonymous) says…

Apparently Rudd isn't much of a draw.

http://www.markrudd.com/?/book-tour-d…
21 October 2009
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TheOriginalCA (Anonymous) says…

Practicality (Anonymous) says…
LOL at Monkeyhawk! Great minds think alike!
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What is scary is when bad minds think alike…. :-)
21 October 2009
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Practicality (Anonymous) says…

Ha Ha Original. Very funny.

21 October 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

My question is, why doesn't he have a job in the Obama administration?
21 October 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

Well, you could knock me over with a feather!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=7…
21 October 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

I was hoping Barry Penders was going to weigh in on this dynamic progressive speaker.
21 October 2009
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Practicality (Anonymous) says…

Now Tom, be honest, you set yourself up on that one.
21 October 2009
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moderationman (Anonymous) says…

Do none of you read? He is speaking at a booksigning at a local business. He is not appearing on campus. What a bunch of hypersensitive bozos.
21 October 2009
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infidel (Anonymous) says…

1311 Oread is on campus at the KU bookstore
21 October 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.''
BTW, Ayers is Dear Leader's political godfather.
21 October 2009
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Practicality (Anonymous) says…

What difference does it make if he is going on Campus or not. There is a reason he is coming to Lawrence and not Atchison. Care to wager what that reason is?

21 October 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

I guess when you think about it, who better to assist you in your political endeavors than a swarm of domestic terrorists/bombers.
21 October 2009
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mr_right_wing (Anonymous) says…

Wow…a terrorist organization represented at KU. Welcome! Please leave any bombs at home.

Maybe if they invite Ben Laden to speak he'll come out of hiding…?
21 October 2009
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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

What's next…a serial rapist writes a book and will speak at KU? Perhaps his “political motivation” was to keep women in their place… Doesn't he deserve to have his voice heard?

How pathetic.
21 October 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

How strange that ultimately, the advent of The Messiah and his subsequent election gave a domestic terrorist a window of opportunity to write a book and go on a book signing/speaking tour. How strange indeed! Of course, Bush Derangement Syndrome enhanced this window of opportunity.
21 October 2009
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

These terrorists put anything Mark Rudd may have done to shame. Yes Mark would pale by comparison.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?… aka USA terrorists

More USA terrorists:
http://www.aei.org/scholars

Robberies:
1. The Reagan/ Bush Home Loan Scandal = lost jobs,lost retirement and lost medical insurance not to mention loss of homes! And a Wreckanomic economy.
http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com…

2. The Bush/Cheney Home Loan Scandal = lost jobs,lost retirement and lost medical insurance not to mention loss of homes! And a Wreckanomic economy.
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv…

3. What did Bush and Henry Paulson do with the bail out money? FRAUD!
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10…

4. Why did the RINO’s Lie About Social Security? deception as first stage of social security theft
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv…
21 October 2009
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tonymontana (Anonymous) says…

You people act like your own miserable daily existence is the epitome of the universe. These so called terrorist organizations exist for a reason. Society is not working. Have fun at your oh so meaningful office job.
21 October 2009
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oklahoma (Anonymous) says…

merrill,

Now you want to rank murderers by degrees? No concerns at all that the POTUS, the Commander of Chief of the military, now stationed in Afghanistan, has a connection to Bill Ayers?

Wow.
21 October 2009
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Danimal (Anonymous) says…

“Political Activists” use words, not bombs.

Hey tonymontana, last time I checked society was working out for the vast majority of people, and has been for a while. Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you start blowing up buildings and murdering people. Go back to your cave in Afghanistan.

21 October 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

Give it a rest, Thready McThreadjack. We've all seen that post 100 times.
21 October 2009
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monkeyhawk (Anonymous) says…

merrill, I used to give you the benefit of the doubt for your inane drivel because I felt that you would be classified as a “dull normal” by respected authorities on such matters. Now I think that is probably the least of your maladies.

I have to admit I did not thoroughly read your above post (as is my custom), but I definitely caught your drift.
You are in a class of your own, and your vile hatred is repulsive and dangerous.
21 October 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…

Is he a member of the progressive C.L.a P. organization? Progressive Lewigees, dipping the pen in the company ink well, and child molesting always stimulus progressive men into a frenzy. If he is not a C.L.a P. participant, this may be why his numbers are low.

Darwin bless you all
21 October 2009
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

Yes I do have strong disgust for dishonest politicians no matter which side of the aisle.

However I do feel that failure to question government authority EVEN the party to which one leans is far more dangerous than I or Mark Rudd for that matter could ever be.

All of the below is far more dangerous to the USA than Mark Rudd ever was…

*People around the world have been watching the dumb RINOs getting in the way of smart medical insurance and have been watching their violent behavior

* had 8 years of Bush and RINO's blowing off the environment

*have watched two republican RINO administrations screw up USA and world economics

*watched the USA occupy the mideast under RINO admins

* had 8 years of Bush flipping the bird to the rest of the world

* have watched the USA gov't do nothing to stop the USA from no longer being THE world
financial superpower

*AND they have watched 3 RINO administrations put 20 million people out of work over the past 30 years.

Additionally:
Reagan/Bush Iran-Contra Secret Weapons Deal
* http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publ…

• http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/p…. Reagan/Bush -

Bush/Cheney Weapons Deals
* http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0…
* http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/4…

Nixon Watergate Spy Scandal
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/…

It 's plain and simple the rest of the world IS NOT worshipping the arrogance of the USA government. Those days may be gone forever.

RINO's have deeply scarred the USA image.
21 October 2009
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slowplay (Anonymous) says…

Actually, I think his talk could be interesting. Just because you disagree with or are offended by someones actions does not mean you should neglect to study the meaning of those actions. Never fail to ask why. I grew up in this era and I still don't know what political or social trigger caused these splinter groups to act so violently.
21 October 2009
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Satirical (Anonymous) says…

slowplay…
“Never fail to ask why”

I would prefer to ask terrorist and criminals “why” while being separated by thick steel bars. Apparently others prefer to have that conversation over afternoon tea. To each their own, I guess….
21 October 2009
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MeAndFannieLou (Anonymous) says…

I don't think either the Oread bookstore nor the ECM is KU-owned or operated.
21 October 2009
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newmedia (Anonymous) says…

I'm sure this news gives the unshaven tweed jackets a tingle up their legs.

21 October 2009
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Sulla (Anonymous) says…

The righties have a point here.Rudd's a scum. He'd be a forgotten nonentity if all of these burn out hippie Trotskyites would stop inviting that burned out hippy Trotskyite to lecture. Sure that it is real interesting LOL

David Duke doesn't think society is working either, so why not invite him?
21 October 2009
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jimincountry (Anonymous) says…

Hittle is too young……..probably been taught by the tweed-jacket libs like KU's liberal arts bunch…………FGSake, can't we all just get along and do the HOPE and CHANGE thing?!
21 October 2009
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

I retract, with apologies, my earlier headline suggestion. Here is one that is more appropo: “School teacher, SDS member, Weatherman founder, Obama supporter and alleged co-conspirator in murderous attacks against the US government and private citizens, to be honored for his patriotism and revolutionary spirit with several special events organized by local Progressives with connections to KU.”

Long, yes, but using a phrase as innocuous as “political activist” for the sake of brevity does not impart the importance of the event.
21 October 2009
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

Re: the remark that “hittle is too young.” There is no excuse for failing to do research. Perhaps Hittle should apply for a job at NPR, which does not require objectivity and honest reporting, but simply requires the ability to believably read copy provided by the Obama machine in a conversational manner.
21 October 2009
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…

You need some more recent links, merrill. Things like how Dear Leader has done another flip-flop on putting missiles in Poland.
21 October 2009
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

A more appropriate headline might read:

“Mad Bomber Visits KU!”
21 October 2009
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cato_the_elder (Anonymous) says…

Rudd is one of the very most despicable and repulsive radical leftist thugs of his era. It says a great deal about the “ECM” that it would invite him to speak there, but that's par for the course for that strange group of aged Lawrence lefties.
21 October 2009
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ozzynbn (Anonymous) says…

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgur…

21 October 2009
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Liberty275 (Anonymous) says…

Rudd has said his involvement with the WU was a wrong choice. Given a bit of hindsight, I doubt he would follow a course remotely similar to the one he did. While I am diametrically opposed to most of his political beliefs, I'm not sure it's fair to call him a terrorist, although former terrorist would be a good description.

Frankly, if he shows up and tells the audience what I've seen him say in documentaries and what I've read of him, then I think he can offer valuable insight into how passionately believing you have all the answers can lead you to commit atrocious acts.
21 October 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

I'm just upset that merrill followed me and immediately snuffed the fire from my per usual insightful commentary and analyis. I always expect at least one left-wing bomb-thrower to viciously attack me….oh well, maybe another day. You guys are T-rific! *wink*
21 October 2009
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autie (Anonymous) says…

my momma saids she knewed him an thats why we cant go back to that one place no more cuz wes was pistolpalins back when wes was comin up.
21 October 2009
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manbearpig (Anonymous) says…

Merrill,

Do you know what “RINO” stands for? Republican in Name Only. I don't know that I really understand why keep referring to every Republican as a RINO.
21 October 2009
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

“Liberty275 (Anonymous) says…

Rudd has said his involvement with the WU was a wrong choice.”

Direct (not second hand) source, please?
21 October 2009
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gl0ck0wn3r (Anonymous) says…

I think Richard could turn any story into a chance to cut/paste his usual library of links by attaching a semi-relevant segue.

“Pizza? The economy is the real pizza and BUSHCO stole your slice!”

“Water? You mean like the tears the economy has caused citizens under BUSHCO?”

“Football? We throw too much trash away like KU threw away chances at Colorado.”
21 October 2009
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jocknavals (Anonymous) says…

well, i'm way down the list here, but there is something in the declaration of independence that says something about the right if not duty of citizens to use force to throw off the yoke of oppression…and the war in vietnam was a yoke of oppression…let us not forget…one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
gotgun
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

jocknaval, what Rudd and The Weatherman did had nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence. They used the war in Viet Nam as an excuse to create havoc in order to further their marxist agenda.

21 October 2009
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Godot (Anonymous) says…

jocknavals must be a fan of those in the media who referred to the forces of Al Qaeda in Iraq as “freedom fighters.”
21 October 2009
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

“Liberty275 (Anonymous) says…

Rudd has said his involvement with the WU was a wrong choice.”

Marion writes:

Here are some suggested questions for Mark Rudd:

(1) Your fingerprints were found in a Weather Underground bomb factory in San Francisco. What bombs were constructed there and how many people did they kill?

2) Where was the bomb constructed that killed Police Sgt. Brian McDonnell at the San Francisco Park Police Station on February 16, 1970?

3) Have you ever volunteered to tell authorities what you know about the bomb that killed Officer McDonnell?

4) Do you have any reason not to believe former FBI informant Larry Grathwohl's sworn testimony that Bill Ayers told him that Bernardine Dohrn planted that bomb?

5) You admit approving the construction and placement of a bomb designed to kill or hurt hundreds, perhaps thousands, of servicemen and their wives and girlfriends at Ft. Dix. Since you believed in “offing the pigs,” did you sanction the bombing of the Park Police Station in San Francisco as well?

6) Why won't you come clean and tell the truth about your role in the Park Police Station bombing?

7) Your comrades wrote the Prairie Fire Manifesto dedicated to the assassin of Robert F. Kennedy.

Why did Ayers and Dohrn want RFK dead?

Is it because they (and you) were not anti-war but pro-war and in favor of a communist victory in Vietnam and around the world?

Were you proud of 1-2 million dying in neighboring Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge?

8) The Weather Underground told Grathwohl that as many as 25 million Americans would have to be killed if they took over. Do you agree with that estimate?

9) Your comrade Bernardine Dohrn praised mass murderer Charles Manson. Do you know if she has ever sought psychiatric help?

Have you?

10) Since it's clear you don't care about the lives of police officers, why didn't you stop the Ft. Dix bomb plot and save the lives of your comrades who died when the bomb accidentally went off?

11) Have you ever expressed remorse to the parents of your comrades Robbins, Oughton, and Gold?

12) Have you ever expressed remorse to the victims of Weather Underground terrorism and their families?
21 October 2009
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ReadingSports (Anonymous) says…

' Marion (Marion Lynn) says…
A more appropriate headline might read:
“Mad Bomber Visits KU!” '

Here let me fix that for you: “Incompetent Mad Bomber Visits KU!”

Didn't the Weather Underground accidently kill some of their own members? Not that stupidity excuses what he did…Other than being the excuse for what he did, of course.

I think he should be allowed to speak, and then arrested, but that's just me.
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Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

Oh, I have no problem with Freedom of Speech at all.

There is no Statute of Limitation on murder.

Let's see what the Commie has to say!
23 October 2009
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parrothead8 (Anonymous) says…

I agree…there's no statute of limitation on murder. Rudd came out of hiding in 1977, and has been living out in the open ever since. That gives us 32 years so far to have tried him for murder…why haven't we? (I suppose that's Obama fault?)

Oh, and Godot wanted a source. How about this:

“To my eternal shame, I was part of the leadership of Weatherman which scuttled SDS, the largest radical student organization in the country, in 1969, at the height of the war.”

Mark Rudd wrote that. You can find it on MarkRudd.com. He doesn' sound too proud anymore of having been in the Weather Underground.
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TopJayhawk (Anonymous) says…

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23 October 2009
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bondmen (Anonymous) says…

Is the “pot luck” from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Nov. 6 at the ECM Building a subtle way of announcing medicinal marijuana and the SDS has finally arrived at The University of Kansas in Lawrence?

The First Amendment protects impolite, uncomfortable and outrageous speech; all other speech is readily accepted and commonly heard.
23 October 2009
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kansasfire911 (Anonymous) says…

Who's next? Terry Nichols live via satellite with Michael and Lori Fortier?

9 November 2009
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mom_of_three (Anonymous) says…

Rudd was just a speaker in one of my classes, and he has a very interesting perspective.
and hhmm, what I heard and saw is very different how you all portray him on here. But then again, I can listen with my mind open.
Didn't agree with everything I heard, but I listened.
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ComradeRedRooster (Anonymous) says…

How is this guy any different than Dr. Tiller's late term abortion provider Mr. Roeder?

Just wondering what the lefty anti-logic is on this issue?

Give us your “feelings” on this issue guys.