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Topeka teens charged in Lawrence robberies

June 19, 2009

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Two Topeka teenagers were formally charged Friday afternoon in connection with three recent Lawrence robberies.

Lashawn Kelley, 19, and Shawn Wright, 18, were both arrested early Thursday morning in connection with a strong-arm robbery in South Park.

Police also connected the men to the robbery of a sandwich shop delivery driver June 13 outside Sprague Apartments, 1400 Alumni Place, and for a robbery the same day on Ohio Street.

Both men were charged in Douglas County District Court with two counts of robbery and three counts of attempted robbery. They’re being held in Douglas County Jail on $30,000 bond each and are scheduled to appear in court at 2 p.m. June 24.

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bronze 4 years, 9 months ago

topeka again?

say it ain't so.

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bad_dog 4 years, 9 months ago

No-you missed the point-but took the bait nonetheless. Trying to dismiss another poster by saying you won't be back doesn't preclude the other participant from responding, nor does it make them look stupid. The fact you fail to grasp something that simple and essential to bilateral communication makes you appear to be the dim one.

And while saying "you're good to go" might be considered pompous or dismissive by you, it's good to see you got to the essence of that comment. Given your observations about me, I took it easy on you.

As for the other blogs you're going to "enjoy", would one of them be the story on the strongarm robbery? Better make sure no one says anything bad about Topeka there, either.

Enjoy T-town. LMAO indeed.

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Good_to_go 4 years, 9 months ago

Lmao. You obvioulsy missed the point being made. By responding directly to another poster who specifically said they would not be back to read it, made you look extremely stupid and desperate for the last word, being that your post wouldn't even be read by the intended. And by you suggesting that ProudTopekan was the pompous personality by "dismissing" you, what is it that you did by telling me "you're good to go. See ya"? That's some funny stuff. Thanks for the cheap entertainment from Lawrence. I'm moving on to bigger and better blogs now. Have a great day. ;)

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bad_dog 4 years, 9 months ago

"I found it even more amusing that bad_dog has the pompous trait of having to have the last word even though ProudTopekan clearly stated he/she would not be back to this forum." Good_to_go

Sheesh G_t_g, it's good to know that PT's comment: "...you don't shouldn't feel the need to respond to any of this because I won't be checking back" means shut-up, you're dismissed and not entitled to respond. How pompous is that comment? Is that how it works in the Magical Kingdom of Topeka?

I too lived in both towns for extended period. I know which town I prefer and you've expressed your preference. Good for you. I really am happy you came to Kansas and found work and friends. Keep in mind I've also stated (several times) Topekan's are welcome as far as I'm concerned as long as they come in peace.

And now, as PT once said: "you shouldn't feel the need to respond to any of this because I won't be checking back," Hopefully you'll heed your own sage words stated above, preserve the moral high ground and not pompously insist on having the last word in this exchange.

With that Good_to_go, you're good to go. See ya...

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Good_to_go 4 years, 9 months ago

As amusing as this has been to be a witness to this debate between bad_dog and ProudTopekan, I found it even more amusing that bad_dog has the pompous trait of having to have the last word even though ProudTopekan clearly stated he/she would not be back to this forum. As someone who has lived in both Lawrence and Topeka, I feel I would be a better referee in this debate. I moved to Lawrence from Ohio on the urging of a friend who went to KU. I found no job opportunities unless I wished to bus tables or work at a discount store. The nighlife lacked in entertainment for mature people. Everything in Lawrence is geared towards college students, so in a way, ProudTopekan was right on the mark by saying Lawrence is not much else than a college town. After giving Lawrence a fair try, I moved 30 miles west, got a good paying job at Goodyear, have an active social life with people my own age, and enjoy the many athletic leagues offered here. Bad_dog has obviously forgotten that Topeka has large corporations such as Goodyear, Frito Lay, Hallmark, Hills/Heinz, Santa Fe/BNSF, and the Target Distribution Center that employ thousands and pay decent wages. Yes, Topeka also has the state agencies and Washburn University, but Topeka doesn't depend on either of them to survive. Topeka has a wide variety of restaurants, entertainment options, a mall, and beautiful parks and lakes. There is something here for everyone and everyone is welcomed here. I found Lawrence to be filled with cliqush people, low paying jobs, and entertainment geared specifically for the college crowd. A person call only stroll Massachusetts street so many times. Many people I knew there commuted to Topeka or Kansas City for their employment and social lives. That's how I was attracted to the idea also. So please don't judge all Topekans by what little facts you know or have experienced. May the Phelps clan picket your funeral. ;)

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bad_dog 4 years, 9 months ago

PT, I hate to break it to you, but without the various state agencies and Washburn and the associated factors you detailed above regarding Lawrence and students, Topeka wouldn't be known for much aside from religious zealots and well, I guess that's about it.

Don't let your jealousy spoil dinner.

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ProudTopekan 4 years, 9 months ago

"Does that mean for you Topeka isn't all THAT wonderful compared to Lawrence? - bad_dog

No, not at all. I think Topeka is THAT wonderful if we're actually going to compare. The only reason why I ever went to Lawrence was for my son's basketball or football tournaments, which were sometimes hosted by Lawrence athletic organizations. Of course, we've also traveled all over the state and surrounding areas. If we were there, of course we'd spend time and money there to dine or shop during our free time in between games. Do I CHOOSE to go to Lawrence just for the fun of it? No. Topeka keeps me plenty busy without having to travel anywhere.

"I seriously doubt criminals are reading online posts from a newspaper in a different town to determine where to commit their next crimes." - bad_dog

Nobody said criminals are reading these online blogs to determine where they'd commit their next crime. If anyone from a different area visits Lawrence and experiences the attitudes I've seen on here in person, I'm sure they would have formed an opinion based on that visit.

"Sorry your feelings got hurt, PT. It does seem you're being a bit thin-skinned here. ... You do, after all have Rev. Phred Phelps/Westboro Baptist Church congregation, the Kansas legislature, etc. as sources of ongoing hilarity, so I'd think you would be somewhat more understanding of our feeble attempts at humor." - bad_dog

My feelings haven't been hurt in the least. I hear people with negative attitudes all the time and it's gotten to be funny to see people who have to belittle others to make themselves feel better. As far as the legislature, hello....it's the KANSAS legislature, not the TOPEKA legislature. You live in Kansas, don't you? Just because the legislature meets in Topeka, doesn't make them a reflection of Topekans. Lawrence residents voted them into office just like all the other Kansans.

"The simple fact, however, remains that too many people like Lashawn and Shawn come from Topeka and other places to commit crimes in Lawrence." - bad_dog

"...and other places.....". Thank you for admitting that it's not just Topekans and resident's of "the Dot" that create your crime statistics.

And as a closing remark, (which you don't shouldn't feel the need to respond to any of this because I won't be checking back), if it weren't for KU and it's students, Lawrence would be nothing. The students (and their financially supportive parents, financial aid and the like) are the biggest economy booster for Lawrence. If it weren't for the diversity of the student body, there wouldn't be all the specialty shops along Mass or the variety of dining establishments. It would be a white-bred community of small minded people such as those on this blog.

Enjoy your small town with your small town mind-set. No, you won't notice my absence, but I sure will enjoy yours. Good-bye!

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bad_dog 4 years, 9 months ago

Sorry your feelings got hurt, PT. It does seem you're being a bit thin-skinned here. I and other posters mentioned above that most of the references to Topeka were intended to be humorous. You do, after all have Rev. Phred Phelps/Westboro Baptist Church congregation, the Kansas legislature, etc. as sources of ongoing hilarity, so I'd think you would be somewhat more understanding of our feeble attempts at humor.

PT, recall you stated in your first post: " I always defended the Lawrence area and had enjoyed short trips there (to spend my tax dollars in your county enjoying dining, sporting events, and shopping...)" Does that mean for you Topeka isn't all THAT wonderful compared to Lawrence? It also seems to illustrate you had an independent, verifiable basis for your favorable opinion of Lawrence, arising from your personal experiences with real people and not from anonymous online posts.

I don't believe any poster above (at least seriously) refused to acknowledge Lawrence has problems or crimes committed by its residents. The paper is full of examples regularly. The simple fact, however, remains that too many people like Lashawn and Shawn come from Topeka and other places to commit crimes in Lawrence. Whether someone from Topeka instructed them to commit crimes here, they perceived Lawrence as an easy target, or perhaps thought the likelyhood of committing the crime without being identified increased in a different town doesn't really matter. They got caught didn't they? So maybe that wasn't such a bright idea after all, was it?

As for your comment: "Maybe it's because of the snotty attitudes in Lawrence that criminals figure they'll give you what your mouth asked for”, I seriously doubt criminals are reading online posts from a newspaper in a different town to determine where to commit their next crimes.

With regard to your support of Lawrence and its residents, its nice to have if you want to offer it. If not, quite honestly I doubt we'll notice your absence. That's not being elitist or snotty. It's just the way it is. If you don't like it, merely avoid Lawrence and the LJW website.

As I said above, come in peace and you're welcome here.

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ProudTopekan 4 years, 9 months ago

"As noted above, many of the posts regarding Topeka are somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I also peruse the online Topeka Capital-Urinal, so I know the name calling and finger pointing isn't just coming from Lawrence." - bad_dog

What's bad is that (as I pointed out in my very first post) was that I always defended Lawrence residents (and KU students) when I heard others refer to them as "snobbish, snotty, stuck-on-themselves", etc. Now after my first visit to the LJW blogging spot, I realize that what others say just may in fact be true about the attitudes of some Lawrence residents.
You're exactly right about the name calling and finger pointing that goes on in the blogs of the Topeka Capital-Journal's website. It's VERY easy for people to run their mouths (via their keyboards) without having to face the people they are offending in person. Same goes with your LJW. Needless to say, this will be my last visit to your "lovely" blogs also. Both the Topeka and the Lawrence areas are growing. Someday we may be closer in proximity than you want to be. We have crimes committed here by people from all over due to that fact that we are visited by people from all over and by our own (which I can admit but it seems that some of you can't admit). Maybe all the crime that happens in Lawrence by Topekans or those from "The Dot" is because you're easy targets. Maybe your police department or security measures aren't as good as they should be and criminals think they may be able to "get away" with something. Maybe it's because of the snotty attitudes in Lawrence that criminals figure they'll "give you what your mouth asked for". I don't know. I'm not a criminal, but I can sure see how someone would have a lot of dislike for some people of Lawrence who have the mindset that some of you have. Ask for it and you shall receive.

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bad_dog 4 years, 9 months ago

"And bad_dog, I never said that because people come to Topeka (for work, recreation, etc) that it was an indication of Lawrence being a bad place."-PT

No you didn't say it was an indication Lawrence was a bad place. Nor did I say you said Lawrence was a bad place. I asked: "How does the work, recreation and social activities of certain Lawrence residents somehow reflect negatively on their resident community?" There is a significant difference (at least in degree) between characterizing a town as a "bad place" and arguing that certain vocational and recreational activities undertaken by those residents in another city somehow creates a negative inference regarding their home town or a preference for the town visited.

You stated people from Lawrence regularly went to Topeka because Lawrence wasn't all "THAT". As such, you inferred that Lawrence residents traveling to Topeka for work, recreation or social activities somehow makes Topeka a better place than Lawrence to pursue those activities, i.e. more "THAT" than Lawrence. Even if true, so what? Again, what does Lawrencians traveling to Topeka for those socially acceptable activities have to do with Topekans coming to Lawrence to commit crimes? I provided you with several examples why traveling to another town for work, recreation, etc. does not inherently establish a negative quality regarding the visitor's town of residence, nor does it constitute a de facto preference for the other town. Traveling to a neighboring community for the purpose of committing violent crimes will get the perpetrator and their hometowns a bad reputation if it occurs frequently enough-and it has.

Just for the record, I don't care how many Topekans come to Lawrence as long as they mind their own business and don't commit robberies, assaults, etc. I believe you would expect the same conduct and respect from visitors to your town.

As noted above, many of the posts regarding Topeka are somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I also peruse the online Topeka Capital-Urinal, so I know the name calling and finger pointing isn't just coming from Lawrence.

Come in peace and you'll be welcome.

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whatashame 4 years, 9 months ago

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jehovah_bob 4 years, 9 months ago

I attribute the growth in Topeka on Lawrence violence to the closing of Boyle's Joy Land (the amusement park, not the flea market) in 1988.

Ever since, the T on L violence has grown exponentially.

There just aren't enough cultural activities in Topeka to provide proper guidance for teenagers. There's a limit to how many times one can tour the capitol before it just becomes another joke about Kansas legislature.

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OeraLinda 4 years, 9 months ago

Any crime committed by a Lawrence citizen is clearly a transplant from Topeka.

I’d rather Topekans commit crimes during the weekend in Lawrence than move here and breed.

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ProudTopekan 4 years, 9 months ago

And yet again, nobody can address the problem with the Lawrence on Lawrence crime. It's typical of holier-than-thou communities/people to blame everyone else for their problems. And bad_dog, I never said that because people come to Topeka (for work, recreation, etc) that it was an indication of Lawrence being a bad place. My comment just meant that those of you on this board (or in Lawrence in general) who want Topekans out of Lawrence should stay in your own yards. Funny stuff.....

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beatrice 4 years, 9 months ago

"Maybe people on this board should address the REAL issues such as young people who don't have proper guidance in their lives and don't have good decision making skills."

Yeah! It isn't just the Topekan youth you should blame, it is their Topekan parents, too!

Topeka -- Like a little drop of Missouri right in the heart of Kansas.

(Sorry Proud, couldn't help but to pile on. Don't take it personally. Picking on the neighbors is a time-honored tradition. When a Manhattan story comes up, feel free to join in the fun.)

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bad_dog 4 years, 9 months ago

"Why is there such anger towards Topekans?"-PT

A) Because a significant percentage of the violent crimes committed in Lawrence are committed by Topekans and/or the Dot. B) Because that is where the state legislature meets ;-)

"I know plenty of people from the Lawrence area that come to Topeka for work, recreation and social activities on a regular basis, so Lawrence must not be all THAT wonderful."-PT

How does the work, recreation and social activities of certain Lawrence residents somehow reflect negatively on their resident community? So if I travel to KC to eat at a unique non-chain restaurant or watch Royals/Chiefs games (I know-I'm a glutton for punishment) that somehow means I prefer KC to Lawrence or negatively reflects on the quality of life in Lawrence? Could it simply be that the restaurant or sports franchise or job simply doesn't exist in Lawrence?

A person that lives in one community and works or engages in recreation/social activities in another doesn't inherently imply anything negative about the resident community. In fact, living in one community and working in another says more to me about the desirability of the former community than the latter. If not, why wouldn't you live in the community where you work? The answer is never simple and can revolve around a lot of factors such as family issues or school systems and may have little if anything to do with crime statistics, etc.

"I also know of some young people from Lawrence that come to Topeka and have caused trouble here."

By all means, please feel free to provide us with some of the more notorious examples. While I'm certain there are some examples you can provide, I can't imagine there would be nearly as many Lawrence offenders in Topeka as there are Topekans committing offenses in Lawrence. It happens almost weekly here and the crimes typically involve guns, robberies, assaults, etc.

Sure there's problems in Lawrence-same as anywhere else. Tell you what PT, you keep Topeka's "...young people who don't have proper guidance in their lives and don't have good decision making skills" and we'll deal with ours. We'll both be happier and nobody will have anything to complain about except their own residents.

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OeraLinda 4 years, 9 months ago

ProudTopekan you know these two? can you confirm their suspected French ancestry?

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BABBOY 4 years, 9 months ago

It would be interesting to see if LJ World publishes every robbery that gets to the court house and put on public docket sheet or if it just draws attention to the ones of Topeka.

But, whatever.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 9 months ago

The "blame Topeka" business is one of the recurring memes on this board. Round-abouts and crossing guards are also hot topics on some days.

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ProudTopekan 4 years, 9 months ago

Such pettiness on this board. And no, I'm not related to LaShawn, but I do distantly know the two young men involved. Nobody who knows them is pleased with their actions. Nobody in Topeka told them to go rob someone in Lawrence. Why is there such anger towards Topekans? I know plenty of people from the Lawrence area that come to Topeka for work, recreation and social activities on a regular basis, so Lawrence must not be all THAT wonderful. I also know of some young people from Lawrence that come to Topeka and have caused trouble here. I also noticed that the two of you who posted regarding my comments didn't have the nerve to address the problem of Lawrence on Lawrence crime. Imagine that! Maybe people on this board should address the REAL issues such as young people who don't have proper guidance in their lives and don't have good decision making skills. THAT is not a Topeka-only problem.

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OeraLinda 4 years, 9 months ago

Proud Topeka are you relate to LaShawn, he is your fellow LaTopekan.

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blue73harley 4 years, 9 months ago

One down, 122,646 to go...and we did not even have to build a moat.

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ProudTopekan 4 years, 9 months ago

Wow.....I've always heard people talking about how snotty Lawrence residents are. I always defended the Lawrence area and had enjoyed short trips there (to spend my tax dollars in your county enjoying dining, sporting events, and shopping, NOT to commit any crimes), but now I see why people feel that way about the attitudes present there. Let's reflect on some of the Lawrence on Lawrence crime. (eg: setting house/apartment fires that kill the occupants, drinking binges that wind up with young adults dead, etc). I'm sure there's plenty more, but I really don't follow the Lawrence news all that well since I have a wonderful life of my own right here in Topeka. If you would all be realstic, you'd realize that there are unfortunate situations all over (not just Topeka or "the Dot") where some young people don't have the guidance they need and end up doing things they shouldn't. Are you all trying to say Lawrence doesn't have any of that? Give me a break! And by the way, before you all jump on the band wagon and tell me to stay in Topeka since I enjoy it so much, believe me, from now on I will keep my tax dollars here.

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HogJiver 4 years, 10 months ago

drag em behind a tractor back to Topeka and don't miss the cactus, then drag em back to Lawrence and throw their butts in jail with the bad cop.

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kusp8 4 years, 10 months ago

Deport them to North Korea?

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beobachter 4 years, 10 months ago

Marion is a special case, don't you peons forget it.

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keepsgettingbanned 4 years, 10 months ago

in case you missed it...Marion is being racist. but watch how you respond, he will get u banned.

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phoenixforce 4 years, 10 months ago

So can we get rid of all road that lead out of Topeka now? The citizens obviously aren't providing anything worthwhile.

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edjayhawk 4 years, 10 months ago

Nowhere did I say anything about stopping only blacks...

"You know, the turnpike isn't the only way to get into Lawrence from Topeka…"

Duh!!!

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gsxr600 4 years, 10 months ago

You know, the turnpike isn't the only way to get into Lawrence from Topeka...

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SwineFlu 4 years, 10 months ago

Just say what you mean ed. Racially profile the incoming people at all Lawrence entrances, search cars and take names. Then once the said people are on the radar, they will be less likely to commit a crime. Well that's saying too much, you have to have morals to not go through w/ the crime.

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edjayhawk 4 years, 10 months ago

They should install a metal detector at the Turnpike booths...

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SwineFlu 4 years, 10 months ago

Typical......there it is again. I can't stop saying that.

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bigdave 4 years, 10 months ago

Hang them at the court house tell there heads rott off and they fall to the ground!!!

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thebcman 4 years, 10 months ago

once we start cutting the arms off of these punks, they might stop this crap.

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 10 months ago

"Lashawn"?

French maybe?

Belgian?

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50YearResident 4 years, 10 months ago

Lawrence is such an easy tutch for the homeless that the petty crooks are flocking here too for handouts.

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Number_1_Grandma 4 years, 10 months ago

They don't have people of Topeka to rob that they have to come all the way to Lawrence? And with gas prices on the rise again too.

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Alabamastreet 4 years, 10 months ago

Topeka and The Dot, the saga continues. The people who live in those two areas should be ashamed of what their folk are trying to do to our town.

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ClaroAtaxia 4 years, 10 months ago

Hmm, perhaps a large wall would work?

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mrbig 4 years, 10 months ago

HAHA who would have guessed they were from Topeka!?

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