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Donald Eteeyan, left, and his brother, Scott, look over their Camaro following an accident Wednesday morning. They were driving east on K-10 when a car pulled out in front of them.

By Jesse Fray

July 8, 2009, 9:41 a.m. Updated July 8, 2009, 1:31 p.m.

K-10 accident sends one to hospital

An emergency helicopter took one person to the hospital after a crash along K-10. Enlarge video

Photo by Richard Gwin

Scott Eteeyan and his brother, Donald, take photos of their car following an accident on the K-10 bypass Wednesday morning. The brothers escaped serious injury.

Photo by Richard Gwin

Douglas County Sheriff's deputies work at the scene of a two-car accident at the intersection of Kasold Drive and the Kansas Highway 10 bypass Wednesday morning. An eastbound car was struck by a car that pulled out onto K-10.

An emergency helicopter transported a Lawrence resident to the hospital after a two-vehicle accident Wednesday morning on the Kansas Highway 10 bypass, near Kasold Drive.

Bonnie Bond, of Lawrence, was injured in the crash when a Chevrolet Camaro hit the Buick LeSabre she was driving, said Sgt. Steve Lewis, Douglas County Sheriff's Office spokesman. The accident occurred around 9:20 a.m.

Lewis said Bond was driving south on East 1200 Road and was hit by a car traveling west on K-10.

The Camaro was driven by Scott Eteeyan, 34, Lewis said. Eteeyan and his brother, Donald, unknown age, both of Lawrence, received minor injuries in the crash and were not transported to the hospital.

Bond was conscious and responsive, said Lewis, who did not provide details on her age or which hospital she was flown to.

Law enforcement shut down the K-10 bypass to west bound traffic at Highway 59, east bound traffic at Wakarusa Drive, and Kasold Drive to south bound traffic at 31st Street for about 20 minutes while crews worked the accident. The K-10 bypass reopened to traffic around 10 a.m.

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8 July 2009
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gsxr600 (Anonymous) says…

Sounds like somebody didn't look both ways before crossing the road.
8 July 2009
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whatadrag (Anonymous) says…

Hope the people are ok
8 July 2009
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

Police dispatch said it was a t-bone accident.
Which is what?
8 July 2009
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ibroke (Anonymous) says…

when a car hits the side of a car with the front bumper
8 July 2009
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…

T each line is a car
8 July 2009
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dandelion (Anonymous) says…

T-bone is when one car hits the side of another car, forming a T.

This is the becoming the most dangerous stretch of road in Lawrence. It's really a city street with a 65+ MPH speed limit. Street lights and intersections. If they had routed the stupid road around the west end of the soccer fields, crossed the Waki, followed it all the way out to where the Waki meets 10 hiway east of Lawrence, then it would have been safer, faster, and only made a few rich homeowners mad. Now it's a death trap that leads to nowhere. At least change the speed limit to 45 once it curves to the east. Talk about stupid planning. Brought to you by the same bozo's who planned all the curb cuts on 23rd, no doubt. Let's give businesses everything they want, who cares if it causes accidents.
8 July 2009
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geekin_topekan (Anonymous) says…

It's when the cars meet at a nearly perfect right angle of each, one hitting midway to the other thus creating a “T” shape configuration at the moment of impact.
Tha's my definition anyway.
I may be wrong. Ihave been to known to be quite wrong from time to time.

8 July 2009
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cthulhu_4_president (Anonymous) says…

“Police dispatch said it was a t-bone accident.
which is what?”
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An accident involving one or more delicous steaks.

Seriously, I hope everyone is ok.
8 July 2009
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lawrencechick (Anonymous) says…

I was really surprised when this road opened and the speed limit was 65, it should be 55mph at the most. It doesn't make sense to be able to go 65mph on that road and then get off on 59 hwy and it's only 55mph. They need to lower the speed limit.
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hujiko (Anonymous) says…

The Kasold intersection is too highly used to not have a proper traffic signal.

All remaining junctures minus the N 1500 Road have either onramps/offramps or a stop light to let cars on/off the road safely. A light at that intersection is long overdue, this is not the first accident to happen on this small stretch of K-10 and it is definitely not going to be the last if a signal is not put in place.
8 July 2009
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

Is the Waka a river? Where? I don't think I have ever saw it. Don't get around much any more.
So, is our Waka a real person or a made up one like Mark Twain. You know what I mean.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

Hmm, broken windshield on passenger and driver's sides…

Seatbelt citations anyone?

Hope all involved are doing OK.

PS Not to be picky but, I believe it's Camaro, not Camero as spelled in the photo caption. No big deal-it's just an American icon, sheesh.
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MYOB (Anonymous) says…

Once again human error will cause screams for change. I travel this highway, (that's what it is, a highway) every day, twice a day. It's not that difficult! What makes it dangerous is people who don't pay attention- not high speed limits, not lack of visibility- human carelessness. Period. Take the highway if you want to drive like you're on a highway, otherwise travel the city roads that will get you to the same place, just perhaps a little slower (and safer if you can't pay attention).
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ronwell_dobbs (Anonymous) says…

Totally shocked that a shirtless dude would be riding around in a Camaro.
8 July 2009
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oneflewover (Anonymous) says…

MYOB, I agree, I also travel the bypass at least twice a day. Never had any problem, even at the Kasold intersection. If people don't like it or are too slow to use it, they can drive through town. Simple enough.

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kusp8 (Anonymous) says…

Screw lowering the speed limit, or the use of stoplights…Survival of the fittest! Social Darwinism! Just kidding…hope the persons okay.

Side note…extricated, interesting choice in diction, probably not my first choice. So kudos in keeping things spicy ;).
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

Come on, ronwell, they were either on their way to a shirts/skins basketball game or going to a Hawaiian Tropics calendar audition.
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…

bad_dog not sure but I think this car may only have lap belts not shoulder/lap belts, at least my hubbys old one only had lap belts hated it always felt like I might get cut in half.
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…

hujiko

It is a by pass. that means cars who don't want to drive through lawrence, can “BY PASS” all the traffic, the stop and go lights, and drive right “PAST” lawrence, Do you understand yet?? by pass. We don't need no stinking lights on a by pass. Pull your head out and take a breath.
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

mommaeffort, here's what I found about the lap belt/shoulder combo question:

“US automakers didn't begin installing lap belts as standard equipment until the 1960s — and then in response to state mandates. Shoulder belts didn't become standard until the 1968 model year when they were mandated by federal law.”

http://www.ask.com/bar?q=when+did+sho…

This appears to be a ’78-’82 (second generation) Camaro. Regardless how it was equipped, I don't think you can strike the windshield with your head if your lap belt is properly fastened. Unless you're a giraffe, that is.
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hujiko (Anonymous) says…

consumer1: “It is a by pass. that means cars who don't want to drive through lawrence, can “BY PASS” all the traffic, the stop and go lights, and drive right “PAST” lawrence, Do you understand yet?? by pass. We don't need no stinking lights on a by pass. Pull your head out and take a breath.”

It really isn't much of a bypass without the connection to the pre-existing majority of K-10. If/when the rest of the SLT is completed, all of the intersections will be onramps, so then there won't be a need for traffic lights.

Build the SLT, mitigate the wetlands, and shut up about it.
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geekin_topekan (Anonymous) says…

What a minute!!

If Camaro/tats car was on K-10 they would have the absolute right-of-way regardless of what Miss BonnieBuick thought was in her way. The only way that the “Buick she was driving” could have been hit is if she pulled out in front of K-10 traffic, unless they were turning onto Kasold in which case she would have to yield also.

Bonnie Buickcar pulled out in front of an indian car placing the guys in the camaro in grave danger. Her helicopter ride was of her own negligence and I hope Camaro dudes get paid big time.
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

Bond was conscious and responsive, said Lewis, who did not provide details on her age or which hospital she was flown to.

–now, I've told you guys Steve Lewis is a great guy: its always best not to tell a woman's age!

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amazing the traffic/accident investigation experts on this board like Geekin-topukin.

ready to convict Bonnie Bond.

also, we know with these sorts of articles, more may come out.

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mdfraz (Anonymous) says…

Lowering the speed limit is pointless. First off, people don't seem to drive more than about 60 mph on that road anyway, which drives me insane twice a day. Second, as has been pointed out before, it's supposed to be a way to get around Lawrence quickly (well, the west side of town anyway). If you don't want to go that fast, don't drive on the road. And arguing for lowering the speed limit of K-10 because 59 highway is 55 is completely illogical. Using that reasoning, any two roads that ever intersect should never have differing speed limits. The one has nothing to do with the other.

Not being at the scene, it would seem that the Buick failed to yield when getting on to K-10, causing the accident. Whatever the speed limit, that's human error, and can never be eradicated. Again, that is my presumption, so for all of you who freak out when we “convict” people on here before a trial, calm down.

Please, if you drive on a highway with a speed limit of 65 (like the bypass), don't drive 10 under the limit. In fact, that goes for any road, but especially a road designed with the specific intent of getting traffic around town quickly.
8 July 2009
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mommaeffortx2 (Anonymous) says…

no idea bad_dog just know I hate those lap belt only style they scare the crap out of me.
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mdfraz (Anonymous) says…

Gnome, you proved my point as I was writing my comment. I'm not convicting the driver of the Buick. However, from what the article states, and the positions/damage to the vehicles, it would APPEAR (i.e. is not conclusively established, didn't happen for sure, might have happened differently, etc. etc. etc.) that the Buick turned out in front of the Camaro.

If there were a trial in this case, I do believe that I would reserve judgment until all the facts were presented. And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. However, with the information presented thus far, and having a ton of experience with that road, that's what I THINK happened. Fair enough for you?
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MYOB (Anonymous) says…

mdfraz (Anonymous) says… First off, people don't seem to drive more than about 60 mph on that road anyway, which drives me insane twice a day. If you don't want to go that fast, don't drive on the road.

AMEN!
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WHY (Anonymous) says…

I drive on that road every day and I have a hard time going over 50 mph because of all the traffic on the road. There is nowhere to pass.
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somebodynew (Anonymous) says…

When are people in this community going to get a clue??

“Bond was conscious and responsive, said Lewis, who did not provide details on her age or which hospital she was flown to.”

Does anyone understand just how expensive it is to be flown in a helicopter?? This happens more here than anywhere else where I keep track of news. (And, incidently I am a newhound.) Does anyone understand just what this is doing to everyones insurance cost??

If LMH is not competent or not rated high enough why is no one checking this out?? They are spending millions on a re-moldeling, but we still have to fly anyone with a stubbed toe to a Kansas City area hospital??? And at a very high price at that. Why can they not be trasported to LMH and evaluated before the helicopter is called in ?? Once under care maybe they could be driven there (if further treatment is needed) at a much lower cost !!

I just don't see the justification for LDCFM's policy to immediatly call for a helicopter. (And please don't try to tell me that isn't their policy.)
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Irish (Irish Swearingen) says…

somebodynew, I have also wondered about why no one is taken to Lawrence Memorial. Maybe a reporter from the Journal World could investigate that.
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mistygreen (Anonymous) says…

Did I miss something or has LMH become a trauma center? Did you all stop and think that just because she was concious and talking doesn't mean that she did not have serious injuries. My guess they flew her to Overland Park Hospital, where they are a LEVEL 1 trauma center.

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mdfraz (Anonymous) says…

Conscious and responsive doesn't necessarily mean in good condition. I worked an accident in my former life where the elderly lady was walking around and talking after being T boned, and three days later she was dead. Now, there were some complications, but that leads to my next point. If you look at the video or pics of the Buick, it had a handicap tag on the back. Again, this is an assumption, but my guess is she was an elderly lady who had just been hit on her driver's side door by a vehicle going at highway speed, or at best slowing down from it.

I do not know or pretend to know if she really needed to be flown from the scene to KC, but there would seem to be indications that a trauma like this might cause her more health issues than someone younger. Yes, it's expensive, but if it's your grandmother, would you decline the more cautionary route just because it costs more? And new, unless/until you find their “policy” that says they should always call for a helicopter, it's a pretty silly statement to make. Are you a cop? EMT? First responder of some sort?
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bad_dog (Anonymous) says…

somebodynew, I believe certain accident scenarios or injuries mandate emergency flights to high-level trauma centers. I can't recall all the circumstances (i.e. MVA w/ejection, suspected traumatic brain injury, etc.) where this is a protocol, but that is what I was told by a member of the LFD at the scene of another flight.

As for LMH, I don't believe they can provide the care necessary for high-level trauma cases. That's not a reflection of the management or quality of care at a hospital so much as it is a product of the huge expense associated with acquiring the equipment and staff to gain such accreditation and the per capita need required to justify such expenditures. Perhaps someone involved with LMH or other emergency experience can comment on this issue.

As for the expense, I'm sure it isn't cheap given the cost of the aircraft, fuel, pilot, nurse and EMT. I, however, wouldn't question the necessity of an emergency flight if the rescue personnel determined it was necessary. It might just save your life.
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riverat (Joe Hyde) says…

What lawrencechick said.
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somebodynew (Anonymous) says…

mdfranz -
I am not going to say exactly which group I used to be a part of (even though some people here already know), but yes I was connected with those groups.

I just think that once the air ambulance service got a station here they are called for everything except a minor injury. I don't know (but have been told by people in the know) that is the LDCFM policy. I don't have access to their actual manuals.

And, I agree, sometimes injuries are more than they seem, but why not take them to a local hospital and get they checked more completely before calling for a $20,000+ helicopter ride?? Now, in some cases there is no doubt that needs to be done - in this area it just seems that is not an option. And besides, they can be transported later, by ground, if that is determined to be neccessary. And, at a much cheaper price. Oh, and yes, if it was my grandmother I would feel the same way.

Flame away bloggers.
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Freestater456 (Anonymous) says…

Riverat what lawrencechick said was an ignorant comment that was very poorly thought out. You should maybe do some thinking yourself before you make yourself sound like an imbecile also.

If you dont like the speed limit dont drive on the by pass. End of story.
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

mdfraz said:
Gnome, you proved my point as I was writing my comment. I'm not convicting the driver of the Buick. However, from what the article states, and the positions/damage
to the vehicles, it would APPEAR (i.e. is not conclusively established, didn't happen for sure, might have happened differently, etc. etc. etc.) that the
Buick turned out in front of the Camaro.

If there were a trial in this case, I do believe that I would reserve judgment until all the facts were presented. And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to
admit it. However, with the information presented thus far, and having a ton of experience with that road, that's what I THINK happened. Fair enough for
you?

–okay mdfraz, you are using words like “apparently” and “I think,” big difference from Geekin who's already convicting Bonnie Bond. pictures do speak a thousand words, sometimes deceptively.
ever heard of: driver had stroke; auto equipment failure; a spinout?

your advice about the choice of calling a helicopter is right on, and could also apply to this accident investigation.

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Somebodynew,
I agree that helicopters are called a lot. I do know that neuro guidelines have changed a few years ago to respond more aggressively to potential concussions, traumatic brain injuries, and traumatic spinal injuries. indeed she was alert and talking but we don't know what the EMS heard and saw.
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

Irish (Irish Swearingen) says
So, is our Waka a real person or a made up one like Mark Twain. You know what I mean.

Which is not important. What he is..is legendary.
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Bonnie is a nurse, who has been long loved in this community. I suggest you all watch what you say.
Not to mention I really wouldn't tick off the boys if I were you. Hi guys. Hope Mom's okay.
:)
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HoneyDew (Anonymous) says…

It was Bonnie Bond's fault, at least that is what the police told Scott. I hope that she will be okay. Scott's car was totaled two days before he moved to Arizona for school but he shrugged his shoulders and said “Oh well” . He was more concerned that everyone was okay. I don't know about his brother but Scott wears his seatbelt, he is 6'4” and a pretty big guy though so I'm not surprised he hit his head on the windshield. Multidisciplinary - I'm sure she is a lovely person, just at the wrong place at the wrong time, accidents happen.