Jenkins tours KU's School of Pharmacy site, says public option would be 'government takeover' / LJWorld.com

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From left, Warren Corman, Kansas University architect, and Ken Audus, dean of the School of Pharmacy, visit with U.S. Rep. Lynn Jenkins, R-Kan., second from right, and Keith Yehle, KU director of government relations, right, during a tour of the Multidisciplinary Research Building on Thursday on KU’s West Campus. During Jenkins’ visit, she received an update on the construction of KU’s new School of Pharmacy building next to the Multidisciplinary building. Both facilities are in Jenkins’ 2nd congressional district. At center are aides to Jenkins.

By George Diepenbrock

August 27, 2009

Kansas University leaders are ambitious that a new pharmacy school that will allow the program to enroll more students each year will be done by fall 2010.

They also told Rep. Lynn Jenkins on Thursday as she viewed the construction site that the expanded program could ease the shortage of pharmacists in the state.

“The School of Pharmacy is going to be great not only for the school, but the engine that it will bring for the economy here in the Heartland,” said Jenkins, R-Topeka.

J.E. Dunn Construction Co. broke ground in May on the $45.5 million, 110,000 square-foot facility on KU’s West Campus near the Simons Biosciences Research Laboratories and the Multidisciplinary Research Building. The project is financed with both state bonds and private donations.

Ken Audus, KU’s pharmacy dean, said university leaders wanted Jenkins to be aware of the need for more pharmacists in the state. Kansas currently has six counties without a pharmacy and 30 with only one.

The expansion at the Lawrence campus will give KU capacity to enroll a maximum of 150 new students in Lawrence, up from 105 students. Also, a maximum of 40 students per year will be accepted at a new program at the Wichita campus of the KU School of Medicine.

“(The expansion) will start filling slots that are open and address some of the shortages that we have around the state,” Audus said.

Jenkins, whose district includes western Lawrence, said KU’s expansion on West Campus was good news for the state, especially with construction slated to begin soon near the new pharmacy school on the Lawrence-Douglas County Bioscience Authority’s wet-lab business incubator to allow researchers to put their work into startup companies.

Health-care debate

The first-term House member said she has heard plenty of opposition from her 2nd District constituents to a public health insurance option to compete with private companies.

“I think it’s a culmination of a lot of issues that have just come through Congress in a hurry, and this kind of the last straw,” Jenkins said. “They feel like a government takeover isn’t necessarily the right direction, and they are prepared to stand in its way.”

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27 August 2009
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livingstone (Anonymous) says…

The government has took over many things in our life…. they have took over the construction and maintenance of the roads, and airports, and thus given DHL and Fedex free access to the transportation network, our Walmart distributing their goods at lower costs. Our government has taken over military forces, so that we don't have to bear arms and fight our enemies or hide in the bunker. Our government has taken over education, so that you don't have to educate your kids at home all the time, so that you can go out to work. Our government has taken over the running of a city. Like it or not, without any government running the city of Lawrence, can you imagine the flooding that we'll face during the rainy season, and no one clearing the street from snow? Healthcare? Taking over?

I don't know if anyone realize, that there are basic healthcare, and advanced healthcare, and luxurious healthcare. We don't actually need everyone to occupying a one-bedroom suite in a hospital. Not everyone has to have a huge $1 million home. Not everyone should be driving a luxurious car. But you gotta have a house to live in, and it gotta be affordable. You gotta have a car to drive, if you need to have access to work. Healthcare is the same. If you have cancer, all you need is access to a doctor to eliminate your cancer when it's still cheap. It makes sense to detect a disease early so that one can reduce the cost of healthcare, and benefit everyone. It makes sense to ensure everyone live heathily so that we can all live happily and put less strain on the healthcare system. I hate going to the doctors, and I believe 99% of you don't like to go to the doctors. It's not a 5-star hotel.
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livingstone (Anonymous) says…

At the end of the day, basic healthcare is needed. If not, we'll be like any third world country. Is our government taking back healthcare?

Let's look at countries that we often miss, minus Canada and all the so-called “socialist” European countries and Cuba. Let's talk some developed Asian countries and rich Middle East countries. There are two systems existing side by side, just like Australia or Europe. Governments in many Asian and ME countries subsidized basic healthcare in the form of public hospitals and clinics. So a visit to a public hospital and clinic is really cheap, but you have to wait. if you have bad illness, it's still affordable, but you have to wait. Then, there's a very successfully run private healthcare, where it's really luxury. People still need to pay for the public option, every visit so that they don't exploit the system. But it's no luxury, thus you won't want to go and “enjoy” yourself. But it has all the facilities you need. But the private option is really nice. And you don't need insurance to visit either.

So what's the cost of treating minor cancer (let's say breast cancer 1st stage) for the public hospital? $20k +/- plus tax in South Korea, Singapore, and Japan, few thousands in Hong Kong, and Taiwan it'll just be a few bucks (they have a nationalize insurance). Healthcare in these countries are really good. How much is the government subsidies? Not much, maybe 10-40%. Without such subsidies, a foreigner will be able to pay for all the expenses. That's why many Americans go to other countries to seek treatment, if they know they have such options.

The private option? Depending on your stay in the hospital, it can be as low as $70k to as much as few millions. In reality, we don't need to give everyone luxurious healthcare, we just need basic subsidized healthcare for everyone. Then you'll ask me, so how those private healthcare survive? Check up any of the private hospital profits…. they are much more profitable than the government's clinics and hospitals. Well, you know if you can afford a Lexus, I bet you won't buy Hyundai, would you?
27 August 2009
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

Jenkins has no clue whatsoever. Her transcript comes directly from the industry. She has been on tax dollar paid medical insurance for a few years now.

So it is okay for gov't to subsidize her health insurance but it is NOT okay for gov't to subsidize those who subsidize her.

Substantial reasons why Medicare Insurance for All should be the choice for all in america:

1. *Eliminates Politicians as shareholders:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

2. * Eliminates Insurers Wrongfully Charging Consumers Billions = big time corruption
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

3. *Eliminates Leading Cause Of Bankruptcy
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04…

Why use Medicare? It eliminates reinventing the wheel therefore saves a big bundle of money and time = efficient use of existing resources.

Medicare is in place therefore it is ready to roll which is convenient.

The only major change necessary is reimbursement numbers which the author and the 87 cosigners are perfectly aware.

The USA needs to STOP being be the most expensive insurance/health care of the industrialized nations if americans want jobs back.

HR 676 Medicare for All insurance coverage is key to creating new wealth for america.

The most expensive health insurance in the world is not the answer for keeping business costs down and keeping our cost of living somewhat in check.

Go To: http://www.healthcare-now.org/hr-676/
27 August 2009
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Keith (Anonymous) says…

We deserve the same health care plan she enjoys.
27 August 2009
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foodboy (Anonymous) says…

It isn't going to be a takeover of health care, It will provided a little competition to the bloated insurance industry. Jenkins is “the great white dope”.
27 August 2009
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

I am disappointed in Jenkins, today, for the first time. I thought maybe she was redeemable. But she seems to be plugged into the thoughtless sensationalism that is the totally of the GOP right now. Obviously she is NOT moderate, but on the extreme right.
27 August 2009
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

DId BCBS of Kansas donate to her campaign? We need to peruse her donor list now. She lies.

27 August 2009
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

” Well, you know if you can afford a Lexus, I bet you won't buy Hyundai, would you?”

Yes, I would.
27 August 2009
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

Maybe what we should do is extend VA benefits to all those in this country who cannot afford insurance. Maybe we should eliminate the age limit for Medicare. They are both government run plans. And see here, they didn't put this county into pure socialized medicine.
27 August 2009
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livingstone (Anonymous) says…

“Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

” Well, you know if you can afford a Lexus, I bet you won't buy Hyundai, would you?”

Yes, I would.”

Right, but there are some who cannot afford a Lexus but still will buy one. That even out everything…
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

““The School of Pharmacy is going to be great not only for the school, but the engine that it will bring for the economy here in the Heartland,” said Jenkins, R-Topeka.”

Lynn if you are so anxious to have drugs become the “engine” of the heartland I imagine you are also going to support legalized marijuana and hemp production. It is truly disturbing that Americans eat crap from corporate agriculture, buy every device that allows them to use as little personal energy as possible, and then just fix all the problems that come from that way of life with more pharmaceutical drugs. Sounds like more “white hope” for the new American way of life.
27 August 2009
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

I was just in Ark. the other day, where the vehicles appeared to cost more than the houses outside of which they were parked. Doesn't make sense.
27 August 2009
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sfjayhawk (Anonymous) says…

Jenkins, the Great White Dope
27 August 2009
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Machiavelli_mania (Anonymous) says…

Yep, Jenkins sold out, didn't she?
This will be her one and only term.
27 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

But by voting for her she has lowered our taxes and balanced the budget. The is the white hope dynamo and that is dy noooo mite!

27 August 2009
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yankeelady (Anonymous) says…

I can't wait until her town hall on Tuesday. I believe it is at 4pm at the Lied center ? Actually at a time when more working people have a chance to attend.
27 August 2009
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blackwalnut (Anonymous) says…

Does she honestly think the KU School of Pharmacy will fall for her fear mongering?

Her lowest-information voters may fall for this but she is going to energize everyone else to go to the polls to vote her out in 2010. Educated people in the medical field know the fear mongering is nonsense.

2010 is not that far away.
27 August 2009
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hujiko (Anonymous) says…

Lynn, you are speaking up quite too much nowadays, cease your blabber and please wait idly by for the termination of your one and only term.
27 August 2009
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SettingTheRecordStraight (Anonymous) says…

Here's one more Lawrencian willing to stand in the way of a government takeover of health care.
27 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

STRS, you mean standing up for the good ol “new” American way of socializing the expenses (ie picking up the care for those who can't afford it, with pre existing conditions that the private insurance won't help, the old, the military service people) but privatizing the profits for all those who work for corporations and government that pay for the premiums. If so much government money wasn't already going to pay for health coverage you may have a point.
27 August 2009
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Lonestar1 (Anonymous) says…

Maybe we should just leave things to the free market, like Lynn's friends say. After all, if poor people don't have health care, they might all die and stop being a drain on business. With less of a drain on business, CEO's could get a bigger bonus and give to her re-election fund.
Jenkins does not have a clue about health care or how it works.
27 August 2009
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Katara (Anonymous) says…

I had no idea that we had such a severe shortage of pharmacists in KS. That is a very scary thing.
27 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

What is more scary is why do we need so many pharmacists.

27 August 2009
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KEITHMILES05 (Anonymous) says…

Everybody on Medicare doesn't seem to mind the “government” run program. In fact they expect and demand it.
27 August 2009
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Catalano (Anonymous) says…

The woman should be doing Pepsodent commercials and nothing more.
27 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

“The first-term House member said she has heard plenty of opposition from her 2nd District constituents to a public health insurance option to compete with private companies. ”

Lynn you know I feel the same way about this pharm building. State bonds are being used when the people profiting from the sales of pharmaceuticals are companies and it just isn't right for the state to compete with them creating all those pharmacists. I'm sure the companies would rather do the training themselves in the good old capitalist way.
27 August 2009
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Sparko (Anonymous) says…

Kansan need so much—the state has a high proportion of uninsured, under-employed people. She is a shameful shill for the insurance industry. One of the biggest embarrassments in the country. It is a disgrace that a progressive and tremendous place like Lawrence is “represented” in such a way. A total disgrace. Providing for the general welfare means providing a means for health care. It is a basic right like national defense and clean water. In a few years, a quarter of our gross national product will be wasted on health care and insurance. That is quadruple what “socialist” nations pay. Kansans declare bankruptcy or die every day in the present dysfunctional system. Congress has a pretty sweet deal though. Eudora—not so much.
27 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

“It is a disgrace that a progressive and tremendous place like Lawrence”

There's your first mistake, Lawrence is hardly progressive. Lot's of lip service and the usual coming of age rabble rousing by the college aged but how many of those people drive everywhere? How many times I see the “progressives” driving the latest trendy car or with bumperstickers and yet they are still driving to ku or getting dropped off even though we have a bus system and it isn't that big of a town that you can't bike or walk, the first steps needed when talking about health care, getting people moving in their daily lives, not with a bunch of sports that they need to be driven to in an suv.
27 August 2009
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Stain (Anonymous) says…

Lawrence is the greenest, most progressive place in Kansas, perhaps in the midwest. I've lived in a few places and I'm impressed.

It actually is a big town if you have to go from west to east - 5 to 8 miles - because the weather is often crappy, the bus routes only work for some people, and there is no easy and safe route to bike from east to west because of the traffic on 6th, 15th and 23rd. A really progressive town would be installing bike paths instead of trying to push through a fourth rec center or trying to spend $30,000 on a piece of paper.
27 August 2009
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LiberalDude (Anonymous) says…

I just noticed that there sure are a lot of White people in that photo… Lynn likes White people.
27 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

Stain, that is Lawrence progressive, making excuses for not doing it. If you haven't you ought to read about how the more progressive people up north deal with all the weather issues. Frigid cold and snow doesn't stop them.
Go up to ku, the center of the so called progressives and explain how it is green. I agree about the bike routes over the rec center but that paper you were talking about was $300,000!

28 August 2009
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mommie2boogie (Anonymous) says…

ahhh the great white dumbA$$ strikes again…… she makes me embarrassed to be a Kansan.

LiberalDude, your comment cracks me up!! ty!
28 August 2009
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…

Let me ask you, fellow ljword commentors, would you trust someone given to irrational, racially charged statements, as well as repeatedly spewing forth lies concocted by the far-right hate machine–would you trust this person to be a CPA for your business or personal finances?

She better take care of her reputation; she could very well be a mere 15 months away from being booted out of office.
28 August 2009
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lounger (Anonymous) says…

Maybe the Great white hope can get Jenkins out of this mess!
28 August 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…

She just needs to let the Great progressive hope and change handle mankind from here on out. His handlers are staking their collective on him with as much belittling pity-guilt as they can muster. Sticks and stones may break bones, but words will whip their progressive pity guilt tool into a frenzy.
28 August 2009
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

“Well, you know if you can afford a Lexus, I bet you won't buy Hyundai, would you?”

If this is really how people think, no wonder consumer debt is out of sight.
28 August 2009
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BrianR (Anonymous) says…

“…she could very well be a mere 15 months away from being booted out of office.”

I sure hope so.
28 August 2009
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…

Ms. Jenkins touts the glories of socialized education while warning against the evils of socialized health care administration. Priceless.
28 August 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…

Jenkins is so evil. She acts like the new millions and millions and millions of people on the social health care take, are not going to be seen by the new millions of health care workers that will appear once the Poser prints money for them. She is so…not progressive.

28 August 2009
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guesswho (Anonymous) says…

Let's get the government out of all healthcare - privatize the VA and Medicare. sheesh.
28 August 2009
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lee66049 (Anonymous) says…

I love Livingstone's comments about government take over and as you run down the list provided and consider how they are each run, we can clearly see why we don't want a government control of healthcare. If they were to maintain your health they way they maintain streets….well we can all see the problem, just go on Kasold south of Clinton and we can get a good feel for that. 46 million new to health care, no additional medical facilities, or providers and some think this will work…amazing. 18 million of those are out of a job. Perhaps if we fixed the economy first…but that just may be me. LOL
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meggers (Anonymous) says…

And just what does Lynn Jenkins have so say about the corporate takeover of our government? That's what got us into this mess to begin with.

Remember when all the insurance companies were raving about how managed care would bring down costs back in the early 90's. Remember all the legislators who were getting their pockets lined to sing the praises of this grand new scheme? They may be a little bit older and have a few younger recruits, but these are the same thugs who are railing about socialized medicine, death panels, and the like. Who are you going to believe?

Without a public option, there is no reform.
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sandrat (Anonymous) says…

Here's an idea… Americorp for doctors, nurses and pharmacists… it's very expensive to go to school, but if doctors, nurses and pharmacists promise to work in under-served communities for X number of years, the get $Y forgiven from the federal student loans. Is that not a good thing the Federal government could do, Jenkins? An idea like this probably would have played very well in Kansas, both at KU where we train these people, and in the rural areas of the state where they are needed.

I am so sick of the fear mongering, the blame game and pandering. Jenkin's there's a problem, either be part of the solution or get out of the way.
28 August 2009
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KansasVoter (Anonymous) says…

Lynn Jenkins is an idiot. The public option would not be a government takeover of health insurance.
28 August 2009
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kla4one (Anonymous) says…

Wow, someone actually voted for Jenkins because they thought she was a moderate? Unfortunately, the only moderate in KS is Moore and he's a moderate Dem.

Go to the 4 p.m. Lied Ctr townhall, Tues Sept. 1. Apparently, Lynn needs to hear from some of her constituents who do want healthcare reform and a public option. She won't be listening, but maybe after her recent foot-in-her-mouth performance going national, the press might be looking for more soundbites, especially if she's given some pro-healthcare reform backtalk.
28 August 2009
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Kontum1972 (Anonymous) says…

she meant great white dope..or mb it was pope..hmmm..?

mark sanford..thats the ticket..!
28 August 2009
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kla4one (Anonymous) says…

Hmm… just looked it up, and I was Wrong.

Correction:
**** Healthcare townhall: Sept. 1, 4 pm, Dole Institute
Jenkins Healthcare Townhall is Sept. 1, 4 pm, Dole Institute
not Lied Ctr ****

28 August 2009
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kansanjayhawk (Anonymous) says…

Medical costs skyrocketed in health care when the government began to involve itself. (Medicaid, Medicare, Aid to Families with dependents etc.) We need to get back to private sector methods of improving health care and get the government out of this area! Socialized medicine is a prescription for low quality care—or worse no care at all—let's beat this government plan back!
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

The industry and our elected officals are taking us for fools and taking our money.

Is protecting the most expensive medical insurance in the world good for business? No it is anti business and anti new jobs and industry

Is protecting the most expensive medical insurance in the world good for keeping the cost of of just about everything we buy in reasonable check? Absolutely not it increases our cost of living across the board just like high dollar gasoline.

Did we elect people to office to protect the most expensive medical insurance in the world from a more reasonable and fiscally responsible insurance program? No way jose' That is corrupt.

Did we send elected officials to Washington to accept special interest campaign money from the most expensive medical insurance program in the world? Heck NO that increases the cost of insurance!

So it seems the loudest voices against Smart Medicare Insurance for All are those who are profiteering from the misfortune of others.

Why is it $1.2 trillion tax dollars are paid out on the most expensive medical insurance in the world to cover a wide variety of government employees including elected officials? Yet these same officials say NO to all of the rest of taxpayers.

The real kicker is the $1.2 trillion tax dollars that cover ONLY government employees would cover all in this country under HR 676 Medicare Insurance for All. People this should be a no brainer.

The industry and our elected officals are taking us for fools and taking our money.
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

Substantial reasons why Medicare Insurance for All should be the choice for all in america

1. *Eliminates Politicians as shareholders:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

2. * Eliminates Insurers Wrongfully Charging Consumers Billions = big time corruption
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/…

3. *Eliminates Leading Cause Of Bankruptcy
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04…

Why use Medicare? It eliminates reinventing the wheel therefore saves a big bundle of money and time = efficient use of existing resources.

Medicare is in place therefore it is ready to roll which is convenient.

The only major change necessary is reimbursement numbers which the author and the 87 cosigners are perfectly aware.

The USA needs to STOP being be the most expensive insurance/health care of the industrialized nations if americans want jobs back.

HR 676 Medicare for All insurance coverage is key to creating new wealth for america.
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jimmyjms (Anonymous) says…

““They feel like a government takeover isn’t necessarily the right direction, and they are prepared to stand in its way.”

Much like the patriotic americans that stood in the way of Vivian Malone and James Hood, right, Lynn?

Republican Rep. Lynn Jenkins - Kansans own George Wallace.
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BABBOY (Anonymous) says…

Anyone who is so stupid that she states in open public that her party needs “the great white hope” has no good perception of reality. In other words, her opinion on what the “public option” may or may not mean is meaningless.
28 August 2009
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Cappy (Anonymous) says…

Jenkins is a republican. That makes her The Great White NOPE!
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OldEnuf2BYurDad (Anonymous) says…

“The USA needs to STOP being be the most expensive insurance/health care of the industrialized nations if americans want jobs back.”

THAT is a great observation. The American worker costs too much, and health care is an enormous part of that equation. 20 years ago we were told that U.S. automakers were spending more on employee benefits than they were on STEEL. I'm sure it's much, much worse than that today.

I'm a conservative. I didn't vote for Obama. I'm moderately right-wing. AND I think we MUST have a national plan; and very, very soon.
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…

I would like Jenkins to denounce public schooling as well. If public healthcare is so wrong, then public schooling must be as well. An education, like health care, should only be available to those who can afford it.

28 August 2009
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BigDog (Anonymous) says…

I would like to know how much this health care bill is likely to cost and how this health care bill would be paid for ….. anyone have some accurate figures.

As we know government projections for programs are always way too low …….. Currently we have an unfunded liability in Medicare that is $74 trillion ….. five time that of Social Security ….. these aren't event figured into the financial shortfalls that you hear about

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12037…
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bangaranggerg (Anonymous) says…

She's Palinesque..
Not a compliment by the way.
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livingstone (Anonymous) says…

“JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

Lynn you know I feel the same way about this pharm building. State bonds are being used when the people profiting from the sales of pharmaceuticals are companies and it just isn't right for the state to compete with them creating all those pharmacists. I'm sure the companies would rather do the training themselves in the good old capitalist way. ”

Right. So KU or the state of Kansas shouldn't expand the School of Pharmacy anymore…. it's so socialist to have the government competes with the private sector to provide Pharmaceutical students…. these students should have gone to private schools like MIT and Harvard…
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beawolf (Anonymous) says…

BigDog (Anonymous) says…

“I would like to know how much this health care bill is likely to cost and how this health care bill would be paid for …..”

Sorry BigDog, there is no health care bill as of yet. We do not have a clue as to what the final bill is going to look like (if there is a bill).

More importantly, ask how much the current health care system is costing our society and how much of drain it is on our economy. When you find that answer, you'll realize a change is necessary. The key is what kind of change? And unlike so many experts posting here, I'll admit I don't have a clue and I pray there are intelligent, informed and conscientious elected officials who will make the right choice. However, that does eliminate most of the Republicans.
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scott3460 (Anonymous) says…

Beatrice:

I know that your statement is intended to be delivered with a good deal of sarcasm, but let's be careful. There are far too many on the far right who will not understand and will agree wholeheartedly with your statement. An educated public is a dangerous thing to the right wingers. They prefer us exhausted from working and not too intellectually curious. If we're all riled up about God, guns or homos, all the better. Believe me, after they dismantle the New Deal safety net, public education is next.
28 August 2009
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average (Anonymous) says…

I don't know about 2010, but the best chance to get Jenkins out will be 2012, when she (one would expect) gets all of Lawrence in her district. Hope the Dems can field someone useful by then.
28 August 2009
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BigDog (Anonymous) says…

average (Anonymous) says…

I don't know about 2010, but the best chance to get Jenkins out will be 2012, when she (one would expect) gets all of Lawrence in her district. Hope the Dems can field someone useful by then.
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How do you figure this?

The Kansas Legislature draws the redistricting map.
28 August 2009
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keebler1rk (Anonymous) says…

livingstone: I personally beleive that US americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps, & that our education like such as south africa and the Iraq, everywhere like suchas. I did not know you & miss teen SC were related!

28 August 2009
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average (Anonymous) says…

@BigDog -

The legislature really doesn't have much leeway on equal-sized Congressional districts. JoCo has grown enough since 2000 that JoCo+WyCo (possibly minus a little bit of JoCo) will be a district in itself. Lawrence would almost certainly end up fully in the 2nd. There's really no chance of splitting Lawrence for the 2012 redistricting that would get past the courts.

The shift of east-of-Iowa Lawrence is a problem for both Jenkins and Moore (assuming both are running in 2012).
28 August 2009
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OldEnuf2BYurDad (Anonymous) says…
“I'm a conservative. I didn't vote for Obama. I'm moderately right-wing. AND I think we MUST have a national plan; and very, very soon.”

OldEnuf, it almost seems if we want small businesses in this country we'll have to do something, even if it is nationalize so people can take on a new business and not live in fear of an illness if they can't afford insurance for their family in the start up days and even after that. Right now it almost seems the system is rigged in favor of corporations and government because they are the only ones that can afford to pay for a large part of the premiums for their employees. Is that what we want to do, discourage innovated people from taking a chance in a new business and stagnate?
28 August 2009
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JackRipper (Anonymous) says…

“Right. So KU or the state of Kansas shouldn't expand the School of Pharmacy anymore…. it's so socialist to have the government competes with the private sector to provide Pharmaceutical students…. these students should have gone to private schools like MIT and Harvard…”

So be it. The line that is drawn where it is ok for the government to be involved and where it shouldn't be seems to move around a lot. Pharmaceutical companies don't want the government setting prices yet loves having the government provide them with scientist and business people to make them money. We have to come clean and recognize the socializing the expenses and privatizing profits just isn't going to cut it anymore.
28 August 2009
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camper (Anonymous) says…

Is this this the same politician that was recently spreading fear about Socialism and now about a “Public Option” for health care coverage?
How then can she possibly support the construction of a building on a State University which is funded by taxpayers?
28 August 2009
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blackwalnut (Anonymous) says…

There is something so disingenuous in her manner than I can hardly bear to watch her speak. She flatters people, bats her eyelashes and smiles until it seems her face will break, but nothing she says seems sincere or rings true. It's rare I find myself disliking or distrusting someone I do not personally know. But I do not like or trust her.
28 August 2009
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30 August 2009
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livingstone (Anonymous) says…

“keebler1rk (Anonymous) says…

livingstone: I personally beleive that US americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don't have maps, & that our education like such as south africa and the Iraq, everywhere like suchas. I did not know you & miss teen SC were related!”

Look at what you've written…. look like you are…. :P