smartmomma (Anonymous) says…

Thank god..I pray for justice!

Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

If convicted they are going to have to work hard to get him confined for anymore that 3 months which is the going rate for killing someone with a car.

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

uh-oh, here comes the lynch mob. Can we please hear some more particulars before we grab our hoods and torches. This is guy is going to pay for leaving the scene, but lets not condemn him to Hades just yet.

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

The 22-year-old male suspect from Lawrence has not been arrested.

and, why isn't this suspect in custody? why isn't he identified?

any volunteers to build a gallows?

BeeBee3 (Anonymous) says…

He is identified on KLWN.com. He was identified in a release.

Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…

The impact of the collision propelled Crum’s car into the side of the Gateway Automotive building, 534 Gateway Drive.

I don't think we or the family needed to know that.

Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

Yeti (and everyone else who trots out these same comments whenever…)

Before you strike up “Battle Hymn of the Republic” on your fife & drum and mount the steps of the nearest courthouse to teach your ignorant fellow citizens the principles upon which this country was founded, can you please stop to consider:
(1) most are already well aware of (and in agreement with) those principles
(2) this is an anonymous, two-bit public forum, not an official jury pool
(3) any consequences most people wish on “perpetrators” here are intended (implicitly and often explicitly, as when they say, “If he's convicted….” ) to take effect after due process has been carried out
(4) people are really just blowing off steam, due to frustration, anguish over the victim, etc
(5) no one is about to be lynched by cyber comments made on (again) an anonymous forum.

People need a place to release frustrations. Better to blather here and wish that (if truly guilty) someone has the book thrown at them than to bottle up those frustrations and go home and kick the dog… or get drunk and kill somebody.

Windlass (Anonymous) says…

Good. Run him over, too.

Windlass (Anonymous) says…

But I disagree with the two-bit identification made up above. I would never, NEVER, allow myself to be caught on a two-bit forum anywhere in the world for not even the best biscuits and gravy.

Nupe, don't happen to me, me knows.

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

Pywacket-
Why the sarcasm? If you read the comments posted on the older story already, you would see some pretty severe statements.
As for this being a mindless discussion to take out frustrations, if thats your bag, knock yourself out. I, however, will save my criticisms and calls for justice on those of whom who have been proven to deserve them.
I just find it a bit interesting that for all the Christian talk you will often find on these boards, there is an awful lot of sinners throwing stones. Just my two cents. But, hey, continue the cyber-lynching if it so enriches your lives.

littleme2 (Anonymous) says…

you should check out his facebook page (yes, it's public viewing) he's carrying on like nothing happened. People are even writing “hope your car is okay”

That is really sad. He needs to recognize what he did.

kubacker (Anonymous) says…

Sigmund - except for illegal aliens who are driving drunk or doped up. They get a $250 fine, or whatever insignificant amount the judge fined the illegal alien from Levenworth who T-boned and killed the girl in Tonganoxie, and no jail time!

ramsrevenge (Anonymous) says…

Rammy!

peachesncream (Anonymous) says…

nope they get nothing my friend was hit by a drunk driver killing her and her unborn child that was in jan he was out by easter…. and he had been arrested 4 times prior for DUI …. thats the system for ya…. slap the hand and move on……

toe (Anonymous) says…

I am glad for the Crum family this nut was caught.

peachesncream (Anonymous) says…

um littleme whats this guys name so we can all take a look at what his facebook says…..

littleme2 (Anonymous) says…

KLWN.com released his name as: Jake Deckert

ramsrevenge (Anonymous) says…

This guy has his address and phone number on his site. Probably not a good idea at this point.

workinghard (Anonymous) says…

Notice the liquor bottles in the pictures

Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says… “uh-oh, here comes the lynch mob. Can we please hear some more particulars before we grab our hoods and torches. This is guy is going to pay for leaving the scene, but lets not condemn him to Hades just yet.”

Oh so sorry, he kills a human being and we get him for leaving the scene of an accident? That gets him 3 months in jail served over the summer (at least in Fairchild's court). In the meantime the LPD aren't able to gather evidence of
a felony. So lesson to everyone, kill a human being in Lawrence, don't stay around and try and help, run like hell and f'ing Bob Fairchild will cut you a big break and morons like you will defend him online.

It is morally repugnant, he and everyone who leaves the scene of a serious or fatal accident should be given the maximum sentence of all proved charges served consecatively, no probation, no parol, no breaks.

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

His son's are really good friends of ours, we have had to see what they are both suffering and going through at this time. THey were all out celebrating Tom's 60th birthday and having a great time and just a few hours later they got this horrible news! Don't feel sorry for this sob that caused this, he needs to be punished for what he has done! I hope that while he is sitting around laughing thinking that this is all funny, he realizes that he just commited murder! And FYI - he has been arrested! Please keep the Crum boys in your thoughts and prayers! RIP Tom!

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

absolutely agree w/Sigmund's comment!

when people lose faith in the justice system, that it will render proper judgments and mete out fitting punishments, and that it will represent in a symbolic way the suffering of the killed maimed and bereived. when that faith is lost, guess what happens…vigilantism springs up spontaneously. history: san francisco.

we have good reason to doubt the legal system generally, and the effectiveness of our local functionaries: too many plea bargains, too shart sentences, etc.

so, mr. yeti, instead of directing your moral outrage at us who have plenty to vent about on here, you should instead direct your elitist moral snobbery at the judges/DA!

again: why isn't jake deckert in jail tonight with what we know?

Buggie7 (Anonymous) says…

I am going to try seeing the facebook thing but usually people facebook does not let you look at their profile unless you add them a friend. So therefore if you can see his profile you must be a friend of his. This is unless Facebook has changed their policies.

schweppy (Anonymous) says…

Unreal…I just checked out his facebook. If I were the police I would definitely want to get in touch with the girl who posted “hope your car is okay” because it sounds like she was with him…they were at Fatsos and then to McDonalds. Unbelievably incriminating evidence!

twosisters (Anonymous) says…

Does anyone know how to view his facebook?

Buggie7 (Anonymous) says…

schweppy how did you get on his page. I just tried and it came up with 2 with his name a 08 ks alumni and Huntley high school 08

Buggie7 (Anonymous) says…

You must be friends with Jake Deckert to see his full profile.

This is all I get. I can view his friends list but his profile is for friends only it says.

Buggie7 (Anonymous) says…

According to dolphin above he has been arrested

schweppy (Anonymous) says…

I just searched Jake Deckert and hit on the one for Kansas 08…you may need to be a member of the Kansas network to view the site though.

littleme2 (Anonymous) says…

His profile is set on public - anyone that has a facebook account can view it. Facebook is free.
here is the direct link:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1…

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

Yes, he has been arrested. Not sure when LJWorld will release this. But he has def. been arrested. You can't view his profile unless you are a friend in his facebook network.

littleme2 (Anonymous) says…

there are two jake deckerts. the first one is him. his profile is on public.

i am not his friend and am viewing it freely.

Buggie7 (Anonymous) says…

It must be that you are in the Kansas network. I cant view it either and i have had a facebook acct for a long time. Yea it is free for everyone but not everyone can look at the profile.

Buggie7 (Anonymous) says…

If you click on the one from Kansas 08 it still states you must be a friend to view this profile,

Thanks for the update dolphin my prayers are with his friends and family.

jhwk2008 (Anonymous) says…

In the past five minutes he has:

1) deleted the comment saying “hope your car is ok,”
2) deleted his phone number and address, and
3) made his profile completely private, even for those in the Kansas network

babyj10 (Anonymous) says…

Interesting how one of his facebook groups is named “I've gone booze cruzn'”

Bunny_Hotcakes (Anonymous) says…

I certainly hope the LPD subpoenas Facebook. If he has a MySpace profile, they ought do subpoena them too. They have his profile history. It is trivially easy to show what the profile looked like prior to his edits. Once it's on the internet, it's there forever. He's hosed either way; leave it up and it's incriminating, take it down and it looks like he has something to hide.

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

Well it's not him that is changing it seeing as how he is sitting in jail. Someone is changing it for him though. So theres someone out there that knows that he has something to hide! They must not have a heart either.

Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

jhwk2008 (Anonymous) says… “In the past five minutes he has: 1) deleted the comment saying “hope your car is ok,” 2) deleted his phone number and address, and 3) made his profile completely private, even for those in the Kansas network”

No problem, lawyers call such acts “evidence” showing conciseness of guilt. “Myface” and “Spacebook” keep revision histories along with IP's, times, and all changes. The DA should have no problem issuing a subpoena and admitting logs into evidence.

Still what is the point? In Lawrence, KS if he draws Judge Fairchild he is likely to get 3 months in jail (served over the summer when it isn't too inconvenient) for killing a human being whose life was likely more valuable to society than both he and his girlfriend.

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

the channel 6 news at 6p.m. had him as not being arrested yet.

Bunny_Hotcakes (Anonymous) says…

He's completely deleted his Facebook profile.

Pywacket (Anonymous) says…

Yeti~ Bask in your nobility, dear.

And save your “Christians throwing stones” comments for Christians. I'm atheist. And I'm quite comfortable throwing stones at an irresponsible, cowardly little puke who would kill a decent human being (albeit accidentally) and leave the scene. Quite comfortable. I'll even save a few sharp stones for the little (rhymes with snot) who was so concerned about his effing car.

TtownKUlivin (Anonymous) says…

For all those making comments about his facebook profile invovling booze associations, look at pretty much any college kids profile on there and you will certainly see some pictures where they are holding some sort of alcoholic beverage. It's not just this guy. He doesn't need thousands of strangers telling him what he did was wrong, his conscious is eating at him every second. I would agree with most of your comments that he would have likely received somewhat of a minor sentencing(which has been pathetically repeated throughout Lawrence trials involving drunk drivers), but since he ran I think it absolutely guaranteed a strong decision from the judge that presides over this case.

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

just a report of accident/disturbance at 6th and gateway…fifteen mins ago.

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

“so, mr. yeti, instead of directing your moral outrage at us who have plenty to vent about on here, you should instead direct your elitist moral snobbery at the judges/DA!”

At no point do I think I approached outrage. I believe I even said he should be punished for leaving the scene.
As for my moral snobbery, I believe my point has been made about jumping to conclusions by the posts about his Facebook page. A 22 year old has pics of him drinking on his Facebook page….shocking. Shall we arrest all 22 year olds with drinking pics on their page for suspicion of drunk driving? “Elitist moral snobbery”…I guess, if waiting to see the facts come out before we go all “armchair detective” and presume to know the exact circumstances.
“Moral snobbery”…Talk about the pot and kettle.
I'll bet half of you so quick to condemn, have driven legally drunk before in your lives. I'd bet the farm. There's a lot of hypocrites in this town.

littleme2 (Anonymous) says…

Ttwon- I agree that his counscious SHOULD be eating him every second…but he was on his facebook page HOURS after that accident (everything you do is timestamped on there), updating his pic, finding new facebook friends, etc. His friends even commented that they hoped his “car was okay”. I'm sure they wouldn't say that if he had told them HOW his car got damaged. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like the actions of a grief stricken person.

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

yes, we are family friends of Mr. Crum. We were told the guy was arrested around 2:30PM, surely they didn't let him go.

hawkperchedatriverfront (Anonymous) says…

Hmmm, wonder if he was driving the vehicle?

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

okay:
1. never drove drunk.
2. certainly see some pictures where they are holding some sort of alcoholic beverage. It's not just this guy. He doesn't need thousands of strangers telling
him what he did was wrong, his conscious is eating at him every second. I would agree with most of your comments that he would have likely received somewhat
of a minor sentencing(which has been pathetically repeated throughout Lawrence trials involving drunk drivers), but since he ran I think it absolutely
guaranteed a strong decision from the judge that presides over this case.

—weatherman— who thinks he's a mindreader. if this guy knows this comment blog is out here, and it reflects community anger at what he did, I'd say that's a pretty darned good thing! you have no grounds to believe he has one shred of guilt, unless you know him personally? or you are an enabler of his?

his, or his friend's actions on his facebook/myspace pages suggests that he's in CYOA mode not that he's chewed up with guilt!

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

channel 6 10pm news: still doesn't name him…he have a relative working at the World co.?????

and they only report he was questioned, and “complied” with the investigation. no report of arrest.

interview with Crum's son, very sad.

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

I hope you all watched the channel 6 news at 10. The Crum boys are completely torn up over this. It breaks our hearts to see them like this. And then to get on this site and see the heartless comments of some! At least they have the weight off of their shoulders knowing that the person that caused this has been found. They did great in the interview! They are a really great family! The best friends that anyone could ask for!

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

Pywacket-
I have no problem with you calling the suspect cowardly or irresponsible. However you use the word, kill, like you were there. My point was only that jumping to conclusions can be a dangerous exercise. For instance, whats to stop me from concluding that the other driver was drunk as well. I mean, he was coming home from his birthday party at 2am. Is it that much of a logical leap? What if they were both sober and the kid freaked out because he didn't have insurance or something like that? Punished for leaving the scene? Sure. But a murderer? Let's remember that intersection is horrendous.
The bottom line is, if the facts come out like most of you seem to think they will, then yeah, send him away for a really long time.

Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…'I'll bet half of you so quick to condemn, have driven legally drunk before in your lives. I'd bet the farm. There's a lot of hypocrites in this town.

I bet none of us have killed a human being and instead of stopping to try and help have raced home to delete our social networking pages of comments and pictures tending to incriminate us. You're a bigger POS than this guy. When he is released after serving only 3 month in jail courtesy of Judge Fairchild, if he doesn't slam into you next leaving you in permanent vegetative state for the remainder of your worthless life, I shall have to reevaluate my belief in karmic universe.

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

Sigmund-
When you locate your brain and can have a logical conversation, I would love to reciprocate. Until then, thanks for proving that your emotions make it impossible for you to have a level-headed discussion on this topic. Worthless life???!!!….because I disagree with how we are viewing a situation that none of us happened to witness? Who's the POS?

VTHawk (Anonymous) says…

I, too, am a graduating senior in college, and have some understanding of how we (college boys) think. Let's not be so quick to blame this kid for the worst. If he was driving and in the car, then he definately messed up by fleeing the scene of the accident. No dispute there.

However, all college students engage in social drinking on occasion, and many post photos of such activites on Facebook. This alone does not mean that he was driving drunk. Furthermore, the fact that he got on Facebook later after the accident does not suggest anything at all. When students are really stressed, they get on Facebook. Period.

If the kid was driving, his future is in serious trouble. Even if he doesn't do much jail-time, he still has the possibility of a felony on his record. Not easy to find a good job with that albatross hanging around his neck.

Everyone should calm down until the facts come out.

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

Ooooooo. Look out VTHawk. Now they're going to come after you. How dare you wait to make a fair and balanced decision until after the facts come out. If it was up to Sigmund, both of us would be put out to firing squad for trying to be rational.

tcrum (Anonymous) says…

My family and I want to express our appreciation for all of the thoughtful comments. My family is a very proud one. It means so much to know that people take the time to remember my dad and grandfather. We all really hope that people treat this as a learning experiance on how fragile life really is. Many people can not comprehend what it's like to have a loved one stolen from you, I was the same way. Hopefully, someone can picture my proud dad's face before they drive under the influence or let a loved one drive. He was a great man who's heart was bigger than most people could ever understand.

Sincerely,
“The Crum Boys”

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

TCrum,
saw your interview on 6. your love for your father was plainly obvious. we are praying for you.

lost my father, who was a drunk driver, at age 16. thank God for the time you did have with your father. he sounds like a great man and a wonderful father.

***
vthawk, not all college students engage in social drinking. and while facebook/myspace is popular and a stress-reliever for you and your cohort, deckert's actions were far from random.

ralphralph (Anonymous) says…

A fella might oughtta NOT put pictures on the web of himself, drunk, still drinking, in a car. Hard to look at …
musta seemed funny at some point, some time … probably not so much any more.

bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

joined to piss on his grave?

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

If you don't have anything nice to say maybe you should say nothing at all. You know people do change, so obviously you didn't know him that well.

nascarmomma (Anonymous) says…

ksuone1-We all are sure glad you are the perfect person!! I knew him too. He may have had his faults, and like a beer or 2, but that does NOT mean that he deserved to died in a horrible hit and run accident. No matter what he was always willing to help ANYONE out. Crum boy's Sorry for your loss!!

Jayhawker11 (Anonymous) says…

I believe that some of you are being stupid. I know personally that I have messed up and driven drunk and that doesn't make me less of a person or doesn't mean that I'm a bad guy. I make mistakes. This kid made a mistake and it cost him and another person's life, not only will he get jail time and even if he doesn't, he has to live with the fact that he took this guy's life no matter how you put it. It is a crappy burden to take, but it's a burden that he has b/c he made a mistake. You all can stop your finger pointing b/c you are sooo perfect. I personally know Jake. He is a great guy and has a huge heart, but do i think he was wrong, yes i do, and you know what I still love him like a brother and would sit proudly by him. So go ahead and check his facebook and send him hate messages, b/c that is so mature and stand behind your anonymous names and make judgement. I'm sorry a man lost his life, but that doesn't mean that something good can't come out of it. Let justice run it's course and keep your nose out of other peoples business and if you do look him up on facebook or myspace that means you need to get a life.

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says…

I apologize to the Crum Family for getting caught up in a discussion best left for another time. My sincere condolences on your loss.

Jayhawker11 (Anonymous) says…

First of all I want to say that I am sorry for the loss of Mr. Crum. It is a shame when a life is taken when it doesn't need to be. I am personal believer in things happen for a reason and I do believe good things can come of this. That might sound harsh to you or whoever but I just feel that way. Many of you sit there and type your comments about Mr. Deckert. I feel that he deserves a fair shot at justice and for you to sit there and throw stone after stone, talking about his facebook and myspace and talking about him as you know him b/c he has a couple pictures with some beer bottles. First I want to say to some of you that you are trying to start a fire that doesn't need to be started. Get lives and stop stalking him on the internet. I know Jake personally and know he is a GREAT guy. He has a huge heart, a love for his family and will do anything for his friends. Now, I am not saying that Jake is innocent but I am saying that you need to let justice run it's course. I know he will get jail time and will have a punishment, and even if he doesn't he has to live with the fact that he killed Mr. Crum. I can't imagine that burden and that horror and some of you are going to say good he needs to, well don't worry b/c it does bother him and will haunt him. Just b/c he has a facebook status of something off the wall doesn't mean that he doesn't care and is cold hearted. Jake is a great guy and i am proud to have him as a friend. I pray for him and also for the Crum family.

Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

TheYetiSpeaks (Anonymous) says… “Sigmund- When you locate your brain and can have a logical conversation, I would love to reciprocate. Until then, thanks for proving that your emotions make it impossible for you to have a level-headed discussion on this topic.”

What is illogical about suggesting a 22 year old, whose silver jeep was slammed into a car killing a man, then left the scene for the man to die, then suddenly the owners social networking pages with friends who were with him that night “hoping his car is OK” are deleted? If he wasn't driving his silver jeep why delete it or report the damage to insurance or police? And what is illogical about desperately wishing for a Karmic Universe? Seriously?

Gina (Gina Bailey-Carbaugh) says… “Maybe its me, but it just seems wrong to look up suspects on facebook. And, then critique.”

It's you.

tcrum (Anonymous) says…”He was a great man who's heart was bigger than most people could ever understand. Sincerely, “The Crum Boys””

ksuone1, please meet The Crum Boys

As many will point out the only facts we know are that the driver of the silver jeep left the scene of a fatal accident and the owner of said newly damaged jeep social networking pages with incriminating statement have been deleted. The victim could have been Jack the Ripper, Mother Teresa, or any of the posters on this page and it makes little difference to me.

Jayhawker11 (Anonymous) says…

I accidently typed pretty much the same thing twice……sorry…..

dolphins4321 (Anonymous) says…

Actually, yes, I can say that I have never drove drunk! Its stupid and idiotic! I was raised to know better! And yes he made a mistake, but none the less, he needs to be punished for the very stupid mistake that he made. Was it really worth it to go get drunk and then get behind the wheel. Sounds like since he was such a great guy that he had plenty of friends that he could have called to give him a ride. Or a taxi for that matter! He knew the consequences of what could happen when he got behind the wheel drunk!

twosisters (Anonymous) says…

The only good that can come from this is that Jake is made an example out of and the justice systems throws the book at him. So that anyone who thinks about doing something like this again will think about the innocent lives that maybe taken. A very treasured life was taken from this mistake, a life that can not be replaced.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the Crum family.
Tom will truly be missed.

KSA_21_3503 (Anonymous) says…

“I, too, am a graduating senior in college, […] then he definately messed up by fleeing the scene of the accident.”

How does someone get to be a senior in college and not know how to spell “definitely?” Good luck with the job hunt.

Sigmund (Anonymous) says…

Jayhawker11 (Anonymous) says… “I know Jake personally and know he is a GREAT guy.”

If you know the suspect I strongly suggest you quit posting and get your friend to a very good criminal defense lawyer very quickly.

After these “accidents” where people are kil