January 20, 2008
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2007-08 Jan. 19 KU-MU Men's Basketball
- Bill Self talks about his team edging out a tough win on the road on a Saturday which doomed other Top-5 teams
- Brandon Rush talks about his tough night from the floor yet still finishing with nice numbers
- Darnell Jackson talks about staying the course and remaining undefeated
- Mario Chalmers talks about keeping up with a speedy Mizzou squad
- Russell Robinson talks about coming through despite upsets elsewhere in the Top-5
Go figure
21
Points scored by KU from the free-throw line in the second half
38
Points scored by KU in the second half
17
Points by which Kansas outscored MU from the free-throw line
28, 22
Free throws made by KU, free throws attempted by MU
71
Field goals attempted by the Tigers
55
Field goals attempted by the Jayhawks
77
Missed field goals by both teams combined (33 for KU, 44 for MU)
95
Rebounds by both teams combined (52 for KU, 43 for MU)
Columbia, Mo. Bundled up in his winter garb, a white and blue Kansas University stocking cap covering his ears, Brandon Rush was in a hurry to head out into the bitter cold and board the team bus Saturday night outside Mizzou Arena.
"I'm going to go text my brother. I will say I got him : again," Rush said with a grin.
He was referring to needling his brother, former Missouri player Kareem Rush, in the wake of the Jayhawks' 76-70 victory over the Tigers.
KU's Rush was in a great mood after defeating MU for the fourth time in five tries in his career and his second time in Columbia against a sole defeat his freshman year.
The 6-foot-6 Kansas Citian was not dwelling on the fact he missed 12 of 14 shots, including four threes without a make.
He preferred to focus on the fact he did make nine of 14 free throws - including four of six the final minute - and grabbed nine rebounds in helping KU keep its perfect season intact at 18-0, 3-0 in the Big 12 Conference.
"It was a little frustrating because my shot didn't go down," Rush said. "I tried to not pay too much attention to it. I tried to do my part rebounding and guarding Matt. He didn't shoot it too well, either."
Rush, whose nine rebounds were matched by Darrell Arthur and Darnell Jackson for team-high honors, held Matt Lawrence to a 2-for-10 game, including just one three in nine tries.
"I expected a grind-it-out game," Rush said of a game in which the defenses dominated.
Missouri (11-7, 1-2) hit just 38 percent of its shots, including five of 28 threes and 11 of 22 free throws. KU hit 40 percent of its shots, including four of 12 threes and 28 of 45 free throws.
"Missouri's defense confused us. They pressured us a lot, then they laid back in the 2-3 (zone). It was confusing, but we still managed to win the game," Rush said.
It was perhaps KU's toughest game of the season.
Missouri jumped to an early 7-1 lead, the Tigers' biggest lead of the game.
KU led by just two, 38-36, at halftime and never led by more than eight points - 64-56 - with seven minutes to play. MU couldn't creep closer than five, despite the fact the Jayhawks made one of two free throws on four straight trips to the stripe.
"It wasn't very good, obviously. I'm certainly not going to complain about the number we shot (45). That doesn't happen a lot on the road," KU coach Bill Self said of free throws.
His team did sink 10 of 14 the final 3:20, with Mario Chalmers making two at 3:20 and two at :11.5.
"We made just enough to win the game. We made it harder on ourselves down the stretch, consistently making one of two," Self said. "We've got to do better than that."
KU made just one field goal the last 7 1/2 minutes, a layup by Chalmers, who finished with 18 points and three steals, including a huge steal with 1:10 left. That steal led to an intentional foul on Rush and three of four Rush free throws on two possessions, giving KU a 71-63 lead at :58.
"That's a little misleading," Self said of KU's netting just one field goal late. "How many free throws did we shoot? Our goal late was to use the clock, hopefully create inside scoring opportunities. We didn't take many shots the last seven minutes (six shots, one basket)."
The victory obviously wasn't a thing of beauty, with both teams combining for nine threes in 40 tries, but it was a huge workmanlike victory, with KU outboarding rival Mizzou, 52-43.
"I thought our guards got sped up, tried to make some great plays instead of just moving the ball," Self said. "I attribute that to Missouri's guards. I certainly am pleased to get the victory. I think the reason we played poorly in large part is because Missouri got after us."
He grinned when asked if he and his players were expecting a blowout.
"I expected a low-scoring game, to be honest," he said. "I thought two teams would really guard.
"If anybody thought we'd win this game big, they probably don't understand college athletics. It was a big game for Missouri and a huge game for us, a rivalry game," Self added.
And a good game for Rush, who received family bragging rights over Indiana Pacers player Kareem, despite a horrid night offensively.
"He just didn't make shots. I'm proud of him, his aggressiveness, the way he rebounded the ball," Self said. "This is a big game for Brandon and a hard game for him. He likes a lot of people here. Missouri was good to his brother. He catches crap when he comes over here (from fans), which he should."
Yet the insults of The Antlers, who yelled "traitor" at him in pregame introductions, didn't matter at the end.
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20 January 2008
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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (Anonymous) says…
Don't care, if we're not good enough to watch the game, we're not good enough to care if the win. Go get the people on ESPNu to cheer for you, you cheap ………
20 January 2008
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buffbonzai (Anonymous) says…
Whoa, harsh. I was upset about the ESPNU broadcast too, but I still had to cheer for the 'Hawks. I just had to do it in a crowded sports bar. If you don't care about the win because you couldn't watch it on TV you're not a real KU fan.
20 January 2008
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booze_buds_03 (Anonymous) says…
I had the channel at home on my tv, so I guess that means I am good enough to care if they won. Go to a sports bar, listen to the radio, or up your subsciption on your cable service.
What makes you “entitled” to watch every game on tv?
20 January 2008
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repaste (Anonymous) says…
Get used to it. I listened to the radio, and thought it was great. As the big money AD takes hold, this will become the norm. What influence does sunflower have in this? They had to like it a lot. Good game anyway.
20 January 2008
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trinity (Anonymous) says…
i had to upgrade my dish system to watch the game. kinda glad i did, have lots of neat channels now. and one thing-those sportscasters calling the game; was it just me or did anybody else think they were lame-o?? maybe i'm getting old&cranky, but i have no patience or tolerance for their blathering-while plays are going on, fouls being called, etc; are they not supposed to TELL us who a foul was on, etc??? geez. just made me pretty dang hot!
20 January 2008
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leemerrill (Anonymous) says…
They did it last year too an ESPNU. But I think the outcome wasn't in our favor so maybe that why not many people mentioned it. However I got the set up through sunflower last year and have kept it since. They play one game a year on the ESPNU for football and basketball. I did find out that you could set the channel the day before and then cancel it the day after and it would only cost 1/30 of the cost sports package which i think is $10. So you could have gotten the game for like .33 cents if you live in Lawrence and watched a very Mizzery favored foul game called in a hostile environment with announcers who were pro Mizzery and forced to talk about KU.
Rock Chalk JayHawk!!!!!
Muck Fizzery
20 January 2008
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del888 (Anonymous) says…
ESPNU is a regular channel if you have the right cable / dish package. This is not a 'pay per view' game. I may be mistaken, but I don't think KU determines who carries the game. Does anyone else think that Eddie Hightower (the ref who called all the fouls) did a bad job. This seemed like a really poor officiated game. Go KU!
20 January 2008
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punkrockmom (Anonymous) says…
I guess I didn't think about the channel because I have the channel it was on. I thought the fouls were questionable, but I'm not sure if it's because I'm a KU fan or if it really WAS that bad. Anyway, what I didn't like is Missouri fans chanting bullsh.t the whole time. (and yes I've seen other fan do it too, doesn't make it right).
20 January 2008
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mom_of_three (Anonymous) says…
got ESPN-U last year for March Madness, so we could make sure we saw all the games, including KU. We kept it during NFL season for hubby. I believe the DePaul game last year was also on ESPNu, and we went to Pizza Shoppe to watch it. If you want to watch the game, you find somewhere that plays it.
20 January 2008
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BorderRat (Anonymous) says…
Found a great sports bar in Denver that had the game. 90% KU fans with reps. from the KU Alumni Association on hand giving away KU stuff.
20 January 2008
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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (Anonymous) says…
It's not one thing, it's a growing number of things. Screwing people who have faithfully bought tickets for 30 years and not playing home games at home. A big one was buying a ticket and parking pass for the Yale game and then taking 45 minutes to drive from 23rd to the parking lot because the only cop in sight was holding up a light post by the fieldhouse, not directing traffic. How much does a few cops cost? Not much, but the difference in traffic flow is immense. 5 minutes of the games was gone by the time I got into the gym and then fearful that I'd see a repeat of the chaos coming in I decided to leave a few minutes early (which I've never done before). It will be a long time before I fork out for another experience like that. And yes, there will be someone there to buy the ticket, but does that make KU's callous indifference to their fans justified?
Incidentally, I called Sunflower and they were the ones who said that this was KU's decision and the reason I'm entitled, as is every Kansas taxpayer on here, is that this is a public institution which we all pay for, not a for profit, private, professional club. Every game should be on basic cable. What's next, one game on this tier of the cable package, and one game on that tier, and who made out on this, KU, or Hemenway's Missouri pals he always seems to be brown nosing.
I love the Jayhawks, but I don't appreciate having the greatest rivalry we have be exploited so the fans can be bled for yet another pound of flesh. To hell with Hemenway and to hell with Perkins. Bloodsuckers both.
20 January 2008
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…
Hey whiners get over the ESPN U thing, Sunflower is in business to MAKE money not give it away. jez
20 January 2008
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dhupeseib (Anonymous) says…
Not everyone has Sunflower Cable. Many of us do not live in as big an urban center as Lawrence, let alone K.C., and ESPNU is not offered at all. So when KU puts games on ESPNU, we, even if we had the extra money, can't upgrade. This excluded a lot of Kansans from watching this game. Radio is ok in a pinch, but not on a major game like this. Sitting at a sports bar with small children is also not really an appropriate option. KU and its sports program are intertwined and if KU sports are seen as being the province of the urban/suburban or the rich, support by Kansas taxpayers may be less forthcoming for the University itself. Mr. Hemingway should sit his AD down and discuss how KU and its sports program is an outreach to the whole state, not just to the greater Kansas City Metro area.
20 January 2008
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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (Anonymous) says…
Good points. Hememway has offended many in the legislature on a variety of issues, particularly many in the more rural areas who still remain loyal to KU because of its sports programs. If those programs now become playthings for the Kansas City urban set as a function of Hemenway's eastward oriented loyslties, the entire university could suffer.
There is no question that Hemenway has been bad for KU. He is an incompetent administrator as our academic standings testify. In addition, he has also failed in his commitment to make KU a more diverse institution. The racial diversity of the university is no different today than when he came to town, and yet that was one of his major commitments to the university community.
So far, his only success seems to be his cozy relationship with the Greater Kansas City Missouri Chamber of Commerce crowd. Fire him and we may just get our Jayhawks back.
20 January 2008
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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (Anonymous) says…
Catphish:
Read the posts. Sunflower was more than happy to broadcast the game on ESPN. KU wanted it broadcast on ESPNu. Could this be because Mizzou has had trouble filling its arena and KU obligingly restricted broadcast to help MU fill the building? I think this newspaper should get answers as to who and why the decision was made to restrict the broadcast. Certainly KU owes the taxpayers of this state an honest answer.
20 January 2008
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compmd (Anonymous) says…
Dang, Uhlrick is on the ball with this. Couldn't be more correct in my opinion.
I had to drive around for an hour and a half last night trying to find somewhere to watch the game. Ended up going to a friend's place who caved and bought the channel on his satellite service.
I'm really starting to hate Hemenway and Perkins almost as much as I hate Mizzou.
20 January 2008
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chzypoof1 (Anonymous) says…
You guys are all clueless. It is NOT KU's or Perkins choice to put the game on any given channel. They sign a TV deal with Espn, then the network chooses where to put the game. KU doesn't get any more $$$ for it being on that channel.
Get over the “Perkins is the devil” syndrome. He had nothing to do with this decision. Hate espn if you are angry. And do some research before you post comments that have no merit.
20 January 2008
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nobody1793 (Anonymous) says…
Yeah, I had to go to a bar to watch the game, but ended sharing a booth with some really hot chicks, so to whomever was responsible for the game (Lou or otherwise) I say thank you thank you thank you!
20 January 2008
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Uhlrick_Hetfield_III (Anonymous) says…
I did the research. Are the people at Sunflower lying to me? I know who they are, but you come on here as an anonymous “expert” to tell us what happened. In one of the earlier articles on this last night another poster also called Sunflower and got the same answer; KU put the game there.
But you're right in one sense. The Journal-World needs to research the topic and let us know who was to blame. That way we'll know for sure.
20 January 2008
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GretchenJP (Anonymous) says…
go hawks!
20 January 2008
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Sigmund (Anonymous) says…
chzypoof1 (Anonymous) says: “You guys are all clueless. It is NOT KU's or Perkins choice to put the game on any given channel. They sign a TV deal with Espn, then the network chooses where to put the game.”
I find it hard to believe that KU has no idea when or what channel their games will be broadcast on when they sign the contract. If that is true they need to read the contract before they sign it. I am sure the broadcast rights and details are negotiated well in advance and are specified in detail.
Further, ESPN does not have an exclusive on KU basketball games. This game need not go to ESPN at all. While KU has every right, perhaps even a duty, to maximize it's television revenues, this needs to be balanced with assuring the games are available to as many viewers as possible. ESPN is carried on most cables companies “Basic Packages,” ESPNu is not. KU knew this would be a big game and could have insisted it be shown on espn, j-tv, cbs, abc, or one of the other broadcasters who reach a larger audience and will carry KU games this season, even if they had to accept a bit less money.
http://www2.kusports.com/mens_basketb…
Finally, not everyone is able to get out of the house. Some fans have kids, elderly, or don't just don't like mixing with hormonal and drunk college kids. Some fans live in areas where the Sports Bars aren't interested in showing the KU game. Sure I could order ESPNu from Sunflower Broadband (here in Lawrence) and then canceled the next day, but I don't really think that is honest. It cost Sunflower Broadband more than that 1/30 of a month to build the connection and then immediately tear it down. Seems like sleazy thing to do. Why should I have to stoop to that level just to follow a taxpayer supported state schools team?
20 January 2008
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infidel785 (Anonymous) says…
It is a bunch of crap I'll tell you. I already friggin pay to get ESPN. Why the hell should I have to pay more to watch it on one of their other channels. Next thing you know the games will start being put on pay per view! Here is a big F-you to espn and the Athletic department. Go to bat for the fans for once
20 January 2008
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rollcar (Anonymous) says…
Yeah, it's too bad that some of us don't have enough dough to be KU fans. I already pony up for both Sunflower's basic and extended basic cable packages, and I have small children at home and can't realistically go out to a bar to watch the game, even if I could afford it.
21 January 2008
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more_cowbell (Anonymous) says…
I remember the days back when there *was* no cable, and any games on television were on “free” television. That means over-the-air channels from the market in question, whether they're affiliates of one of the networks, or independent stations. Yup, I'm 40 (as Mike Gundy infamously put it).
“Basic” ESPN itself is not free and never has been, and ESPNU is a way for ESPN *and* the cable/satellite companies to make more money. They're in business to make money, not to make alumni or students happy (despite what some here think).
Those who are griping that ESPNU is part of an “extra” sports package—and don't want to pay the extra cost— shoud realize that if ESPNU is in the “basic” package, the cost will be passed on by the cable or satellite provider by raising the price of the basic package. The price of cable and satellite basic packages keep increasing for a reason… more channels keep getting added to the basic package.
It's not a question of having enough dough to *BE* a KU fan… either you are or you aren't! The complaint some have is that they don't have enough dough to be the kind of KU fan that ESPN (and the Athletic Department, for that matter) drool over… the kind who need to see the game on live TV to prove their “fanhood,” and will make the sacrifice of time and money (whether ESPNU or sports bar) to do so.
Finally: Ulrich wrote “this is a public institution which we all pay for, not a for profit, private, professional club”. Yes, but despite all appearances to the contrary, the Athletic Department (and not the Chancellor) have control over the Jayhawks sports teams, financially and in almost every other way. The tax dollars that Ulrich is thinking of go to the University as an educational institution. The Athletic Department must raise its funds seperately. Of course, to the outside world (and to some inside) the two seem inseparable.
That's a shame, but that's what the overemphasis on sports in general has done to universities in general, particularly those at the Div. I level: reduced them to glorified physical sites for “for profit, private, professional clubs.” Not that the athletes are professional; neither are the students who root for them. But athletic directors, coaches, staff, and yes, media contracts, are professional.
Money is involved. Big money. But *not* your tax money. Just your ticket money, your cable/satellite money, your concessions money, your souvenir money, and your “preferred seat location” money. If you don't like that, then you're supporting the wrong division of “college” athletics.