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Regents, Kansas tribes seek to oust Haskell president

Following a little more than a year on the job, the president of Haskell Indian Nations University is in hot water.

August 1, 2008


Dr. Linda Sue Warner, President of Haskell Indian Nations University, addresses the graduation class of 2008 in this file photo.

Dr. Linda Sue Warner, President of Haskell Indian Nations University, addresses the graduation class of 2008 in this file photo.

The Board of Regents at Haskell Indian Nations University wants to oust President Linda Warner who was hired just more than a year ago.

In a letter, the 15-member board asked the Bureau of Indian Education to investigate possible irregularities in accounting, procurement and hiring practices at Haskell under Warner's supervision.

"As a board, we are hearing more and more about hiring practices. There also seems to be some issues with procurement," said George Tiger, vice chairman of the board. "When you have so many faculty, staff and students coming to the Board of Regents with their concerns - strong concerns - that kind of sends a red flag up."

Earlier this week, Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, Mayetta, which has about 5,000 tribal members, passed a resolution supporting the regents' letter. The Kickapoo Tribe in Kansas passed the same resolution Thursday. The Kickapoo Tribe, Horton, has about 1,600 members.

"We need to get this resolved immediately before school starts (Aug. 20). The Bureau of Indian Affairs needs to act urgently," said Steve Cadue, Kickapoo tribal chairman.

The Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska, which has about 4,000 members, also plans to pass the same resolution during a meeting next week.

Warner's office referred calls to the Bureau of Indian Education. During past interviews, she has denied allegations outlined in the letter.

Nedra Darling, a bureau spokeswoman, said a team of Deputy Assistant Secretary for Management staff did an on-site review of human resources, acquisition and finance June 17-19. The review was done in preparation for minor personnel system changes already scheduled to take place and because of the regents' letter sent May 29.

"I am sure anything that she did is part of that review, so it is looking at her, but it also came at the same time that they were sending out this team to go out and look at the areas of the management function," Darling said.

Although the board called for the immediate reassignment of Warner to another facility, Darling said Warner is still president. She said results of the review would be presented to regents at its meeting Oct. 14-17.

"We care about a lot of things here. We care about the education of our young people and older people that are going to Haskell," Darling said. "It's a great opportunity for people to go to school and continue their education at the higher level, and when you hear anything coming back of course it is taken seriously. If there are issues at hand and people are making them noted, then they will be looked into."

Tiger, who has been a regent for 16 years and was a member of the first graduating class of Haskell Junior College, said the board is skeptical.

"History shows that the bureau a lot of times had tendencies to sweep things under the carpet when it came to their personnel or their employees. That's where the concern lies," he said.


MiaMarie 9 years, 10 months ago

If there's nothing wrong with what Warner is doing then why is clubmgr2 spending her whole saturday defending her? If Warner isn't doing anything wrong & she's this great person that is saving HINU then why is Warner in this position?Blame it on the BIA, Board of Regents, but I don't think this woman is clean as clubmgr2 makes her seem to be.

Steve Jacob 9 years, 10 months ago

I don't think it's not that Lawrence does not want HINU, it's just we forget it's there. We never hear about it, unless it's bad stuff like this. I have not heard of any problems with any students in a long time, (unlike KU students) so it's usually the higher up people making problems.

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

to those of you who say my words are less than desireable, really. what about the tone of the Board? I quess you can dish it out, but not take it. If the tribes of Kansas, George Tiger, the vice president and the Board want so much to change Haskell, then why dont they purchase Haskell from the Government and fund Haskell with a proper Endowment? Wait.....that would mean putting your money where your mouth is.......not likely to happen. until then, Haskell is a federal institution, and should be run as one. oh wait, i get it know, the disgruntled few are not happy because the BIA has now publicly said it plans to make changes. that must mean something! what are we missing? will educators now be requried to perform, will the board be required to perform? smells awful fishy to me. I know, lets investigate the Board of Regents, i say to Indian country, Call for the Removal of the Entire board!!! Lets put people on the board who care about our kids, not just politicians who are looking to further their own career. What are the Boards real motives? why has the media not investigated them? maybe they should, arent the minutes of their meetings available through the "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT"? and as for the students who are upset, you must be referring to the one student who wrote for the Haskell paper that works with a "WHITE" anarchist group in lawrence. WOW, he is one to really listen to when it comes to native issues. is he a pawn used by the Board and various members of the faculty?amazing that Mr. Tiger and the Board have torn a the very fiber of Indian pride, a sacred place to natives for 125 years. they should be ashamed. so i say to them, MAY YOU LIVE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!! then you will truly know what you have done to our community.

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

Amazing, the things that indian people buy in to. The Haskell Board of Regents has no authority to call for the resignination of anyone. Do the writers of this rag always print just one side of the story? First off who is Mr. Tiger, can he prove any of the board's allegations? The answer is NO. that is why Dr. Warner is still the President. Second, the Prairie Band Nation is doing this in support of one of their own tribal members, who is at the heart of this mess. She wants to be president. Or maybe Mr. Tiger does. Who knows, I am sure that the BIA picked the right person for the job. Next, is the Vice President, who is Prairie Band, is she even qualified to be the Vice President? Has the Lawrence Journal world done research into this mess at all. I say to Indian Country---WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!! Dr. Warner has a long history of educating Native youths. Where are the people who accuse her when the chips are down in Indian country? These Indian people are the VERY REASON we lost all of our land many centuries ago. THEY TURNED ON THEIR OWN. Beware indian country, for lawrence does not really want Haskell in their backyard and they will print anything to further this belief. To the Journal world, What are you thinking? Do more research before you print the ramblings of crazy people. if there was any truth to the Boards allegations, then you could bet with absolute certain resolve that they would have already replaced Dr. Warner. This is a witch Hunt of old being carried out by less that Indian people. This is not our way! We do not air our dirty Laundry in Public. Only white people do that!!!!!!!!!!!!WAKE UP NATIVES

MNNative 9 years, 10 months ago

clubmgr2: "Amazing, the things that indian people buy in to..."I'm pretty sure if I heard about this a month ago from my fellow students at HINU there must be some truth to it. And if there are that many students and faculty that claim there has been wrong doing, something must be wrong. As for bringing the Prairie Band of Potawatomi Nation into the argument, you have a lot of nerve. They donate so much to that school and try to help better not only their members but that of all of indian country. Not only did PBPN pass the resolution but so did Kickapoo Tribe in Kansas, and the Iowa Tribe of Kansas and Nebraska will also in due time. It seems to me that you are the one trying to start a smeer campaign. I do wish you luck however and hope that one day you will realize that badgering another's tribe is no way of being "native."

ThedaK 9 years, 10 months ago

Temp is presently 112 degrees out our way [Arizona]- It's hot! We say 'let's also keep it so for those who seem bent on destroying our Haskell Indian Nations University. Cheers for the Board of Regents!' Makes us wonder - the rumor keeps surfacing. Is BIA wanting to close Haskell? And by keeping the administrator on board, even with the Board's lack of support vote - the Bureau's message seems clear.

Lee Saylor 9 years, 10 months ago

I know that there were many folks upset when Warner came on becasue she made them behave as federal employees and follow the same rules all federal employees. She also wanted them them to behave as professionals, follow appropriate dress codes and appropriate work schedules. There were several fiefdoms (I know, a european word) that were threatened by her reorganization. Perhaps some of those disgruntled employees are stirring the pot?

Bob Forer 9 years, 10 months ago

Wouldn't be suprprised is "clubmgr2" is the good doctor herself. Funny, but club only has three posts--all concerning this article. .................hmmmmm. Doesn't surprise me, as i doubt there are many folks out there with knowledge about the issues who would take the time to write anything supportive about the lady,.

pace 9 years, 10 months ago

I hope the tribes and the regents do have a say in Haskell, She was brought in to settle their hash, they have gotten too uppity with questions of quality and communication. Linda should go.

geekin_topekan 9 years, 10 months ago

Unfounded rumor,gossip and hearsay.As poisonous to Indains daily life as alcohol.Don't believe me?Go live on the rez for a while.I have no idea what is going on at Haskell but I do know this.If there is any truth to the BIA being behind this then Haskell and The Band is playing right into the very thing that they want.A meltdown from within.Within the tribes,the school,faculty and a division of students.All the ammunition they need to close the school down.You gotta admit,it is PRIME real estate.Kinda like the Phoenix Indian School was/is.But it is not an Indian school anymore.WHat did we learn from that?Or who was behind it?

Steve Jacob 9 years, 10 months ago

So I guess Prairie Band calls the shots now at Haskell? And I bet "hiring practices" mean hiring to many non-Indians, which is racist to me. Hire the best people for the job.But, am talking out of my behind, I have no idea what's going on, just what it sounds like.

Bob Forer 9 years, 10 months ago

Right on MNNative. And for you unenlightened white folks, its called "self-determination." Haskell University is the Native American flagship University. Its their "Harvard." Last time I heard, the Prarie Band was a legitimate Natve American Tribe, recognized by the BIA pursuant to federal law and treaty, It is not merely their right, but obligation, as Native Americans, to be involved in the governance of Haskell. As MNNative apty stated, to question PB invovlement takes "a lot of nerve."

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

Agent_X, since you so boldly speak out against anyone who supports Dr. Warner, identify yourself and bring allegations to the table that are true. The fact remains that none of you can. There has been an inquiry into Haskell, and No, I repeat No wrong doing was found. I suggest you sir or madam are one of the ignorant prairie band followers who will believe anything. I am sick of you people, one minute the Kansas tribe in donating money to Haskell, but when there own people or numerous members of their tribe are not given what the tribe thinks is a fair shake then they began a smeer campaign. Again, Not a native trait, you are either white or a wannabe native. either way, i will challenge you or anyone else to provide evidence that you say exists. YOU CAN NOT, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT! As for your statement, i went to Haskell, i am native so i have a right to say what i want when it comes to that school. How many of the Board of Regents can say that? CAN YOU? doubtful. Instead of hiding behind the vail of the internet, why dont you people show yourself, stand up and be heard, the Native way. We speak our minds to one another and come to reasonable end. White people hide in shadows and sling accusations at one another. Seriously do you think that people who support Haskell are less Native than those who do not? get real, When push comes to shove, i feel that the Kansas Tribes will be shown as their true selves. Liars and Cheats.

kickapoo_rezident 9 years, 10 months ago

I think it is good to see native american tribes working together for a common goal. The power of the pen is mighty!

cds 9 years, 10 months ago

srj (Anonymous) says: So I guess Prairie Band calls the shots now at Haskell?___Not really, but considering they have donated millions to the school, they do a have a strong voice.

Bob Forer 9 years, 10 months ago

Great point, geek. The so-called progressive liberal environmentalists who oppose the TrafficWay on the grounds that it infrignes upon sacred Native American burial grounds have no clue as to the real issues issues Haskell faces. Progessive and sophisticated Native Americans have yet to jump on the white man's "protection bandwagon." Rather, they have been fighting for years now continued but hidden and surreptioius attempts by the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce, and others, to steal Haskell from the Indians. Where were the "good liberals" when Jim Slattery introduced federal legislation two decades ago to transform Haskell into a non-Indian high-tech vo-tech school to attract business.? Slattery's hidden deceptions and attempted theivery required behind-the scenes efforts from a couple of local rabble rousers, aided by some prominent nationally known INdian activists, to derail. You are absolutely right. Haskell is prime real estate. A "developer's wetdream" would be putting it mildly. Some things never change. Three hundred years have passed, and the white man still has lust in his heart for the meager parcels that Native Americans can still lay claim to.

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

First we have the "Pledge": George Tiger, along with the Board of Regents" suggests improper dealings at Haskell. (BIA investigates/but takes no action against anyone at Haskell)Second, "The Turn": George Tiger along with numerous other non-indians, begins a smear campaign against Dr. Warner, (contacting local news media, and area tribes) (the local media does report in print or on television the entire truth, do they?)Third, "The Prestige": George Tiger elevates himself in the political arena. Non qualified individuals with very close ties to the kansas tribes are promoted. WAIT, i just described a "Magic Trick", yes i did, and if you look close enough at any magic trick, you will always find a very different answer. a very logical answer. why are there no powerful Indian leaders not calling for an investigation into the Board's role in all of this? "wassup", makes a very valuable comment. there are SNAKE OIL salesmen at work here. I beg natives not to buy into George Tigers load of crap or his magic trick. instead, teach him lesson.

Bob Forer 9 years, 10 months ago

"History shows that the bureau a lot of times had tendencies to sweep things under the carpet when it came to their personnel or their employees. That's were the concern lies," he said.History shows more than that. It demonstrates the longterm practicesof the BIA appointing the most sycophantial "Apples" to top administrative posts, whom invariably end up ripping off their own people. A real shame considering the great Native American culture.

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

amazing you quote "The Politician" Mr. Tiger. History also tells us not to trust politicians. If there is anyone ripping off their own people, it might just be Mr. Tiger. He states on his Political site, that he stands for the education of native children. I will ask you puppets of Mr. Tiger and the others, how does slander and false allegations help our children at Haskell. It does not, instead it teaches them, if you dont like the answer, LIE and make one up. The White owned Newspaper will print anything. If we whine enough and retell the story enough, then we will be promoted through the political system with great ease and we will never have to earn anything. WOW, what a lesson to teach our children. I am disgusted by the actions of Mr. Tiger and the board. Using lies and allegations at Haskell to promote his own political career in Oklahoma. WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!! Do you really trust him, Can YOU?

Native_6packer 9 years, 10 months ago

What is the educational level of the Board of Regents? Rumor has it that some of them did not even graduate from high school nor have any connections to Haskell so how could they possibly know what is in the best interest of the students and Haskell? If staff are disgruntled it is their choice to move on and not continue to be part of the dysfunctional organization they created. This is a prime example of dysfunction! And as professional faculty you are teaching my children with your venomous attitude??? I agree, the Board needs to be investigated for basing their "allegations" on hearsay and not facts. We must re-direct our energy to strengthening Haskell and its legacy.

wassupwitu98 9 years, 10 months ago

interesting how this board is 'hearing' stuff, should they find out instead of just 'hearing'? is this a communication issue?this is a great forum to bring to light other issues concerned peoples should take note: IHS mismanagement of funds, the high number of Indian children in foster care, the unemployment rates on reservations, teen suicide on reservations, the dropout rate for indian high school students, the high rate of Indians in prisons, the high rate of meth use on reservations and in communities, the lack of respect and care for Indian elders, the loss of tribal languages....the time has come to quit pointing fingers and work together on these major issues....sometimes we are our own worse enemy...

jaccrab 9 years, 10 months ago

Just follow the money man, just follow the money...

kcwarpony 9 years, 10 months ago

clubmgr2,The "native way" would be to start with introductions...I am known here as kcwarpony. My tribe is in Oklahoma and I was born and raised in Lawrence. Family members have been attending Haskell since the late 1940's. The house I grew up in is a couple of blocks from the campus, so close that it feels like my backyard. So, my family has strong ties to Haskell and to Lawrence. I keep up with the goings on at Haskell and have done so for many years and will continue to do so because it has and always will be an important part of my life. In my opinion, Ms. Warner's actions should be seriously looked into. Complaints from the faculty and staff are one thing (not that they are to be taken lightly) but when students start to complain, those complaints should be listened to very closely. The school is there for them. I feel that the Board of Regents had every right and the responsibility to act as they did and I would encourage the students to continue to organize and speak up on these issues. Unlike you, I do not have any confidence in the BIA doing or being able to do what is right. Their track record speaks for itself.Now with that said...You should be ashamed of yourself for your disrespectful tone and for the name calling you have done. The way you have chosen to communicate your feelings on the matter are not the "native way" you speak of, especially when someone is new to the venue to which they are addressing. I am not saying that what you said is not the truth but the way you said it is less to be desired and does not make one want to listen to you. Please reconsider your words next time.

dasgood 9 years, 10 months ago

Interesting remarks... " This is a witch Hunt of old being carried out by less tha(n) Indian people. This is not our way! We do not air our dirty Laundry in Public. Only white people do that!!!!!!!!!!!!" and another..."Again, Not a native trait, you are either white or a wannabe native. either way, i will challenge you or anyone else to provide evidence that you say exists. you can not, because it does not!"Wow...The deception and betrayal perpetrated on this lands First Peoples, is a heartbreaking, tragic and criminally outrageous part of history. That's a plain fact.The bigotry ensconced in "clbMgr2"'s remarks is nothing more than a fine example of the kind of inner spiritual corruption behind the slaughter of native peoples everywhere, at the hands of "civilized" conquerers and the natives who sold out and colluded with them."Beware the poisoned heart... all that it grips will whither and die. It will despoil the courageous and righteous heart, and banish it's holder to an endless wasteland."Fight the good fight, but don't sell your soul and proud history in the service of "rightness".Love and kindness to all...

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

wow, alot of you seem to be able to dish out the hatred but not take it, typical mentality for the weakened masses. as for bringing the prairie band tribe into the argument, the channel 6 news did that as well as some of the newspapers. Again, you will notice, only telling one side and attacking. pure gold people, i speak of truth and the real issues at hand, but you bring attacks. oh i get it; another puppet of George Tiger or the board of regents, it would seem they now have more than one. the vice president must seriously be recruiting at this point. oh well, only a couple seem to grasp the real problems, more power to the open minded few, we need more people of integrity to speak out in indian country. so far it has just been the weak and uninformed. we have a poet joining us now, maybe we are beginning to reach more people who truly wish to see Haskell thrive, instead of slandering good people while trying to create prosperity for themselves. BRAVA!!!!!!!!!!! indian country, it is about time you woke up. the enemy is at the door, but is it the one the media says it is?

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

i cant let it go......MNNative says that i bagered another tribe. yet it is not i would allowed George Tiger to use their name in order to gain credence when contacting the media. They can sling accusations but no one is allowed to defend themselves. BS!!!!!!!!! not the way our country works, and no REAL native would have allowed George Tiger to use his/her or their tribes good name in a slander campaign. You puppets do not get it, if the BIA has already been to Haskell and conducted an inquiry into the Boards allegations, and had they indeed found something, I would bet that a new president or acting president would have been named. so quess what, no such thing occured. so why all the effort to continue to badger the good Dr.? My guess even after reading my rebutal, you wont get it. oh well, i thought i should call a spade a spade, you my friend are a spade.

kcwarpony 9 years, 10 months ago

clubmgr2 (Anonymous) says: "wow, alot of you seem to be able to dish out the hatred but not take it, typical mentality for the weakened masses."Thank you for admitting to what you are doing here, which is "to dish out the hatred". Might I remind you, you started it. If you are a supporter of Ms. Warner, do you really think you are doing her any good by your insults and behavior? When you stand up and speak in support of someone, you are in essence, representing that person. Makes one wonder if Ms. Warner would agree with what you are saying and in the way you are saying it.

clubmgr2 9 years, 10 months ago

for the student who calls himself "agentX", does who i am really matter? LOL, you people have gone from attacking Dr. Warner to attacking me, funny. it just goes to show that when someone doesnt like what you say, instead of thinking about why they dont like what you have said, they attack. sound familiar? it should, someone must have finally come to Haskell and told the employees they had to start following the rules. and some of them didnt like that, so what did they do? attack have you even heard what i have been saying? Get the members of the Board to produce for public screening copies of each members "ciriculum vitae", along with the dates of when they attended Haskell for study. Once they do, then immediately remove the members who can not produce a "vitae" with any educational background, and remove the ones that have never even attended class at Haskell. Make them clean up there own house first, before they go to work on someone else's. as for me hiding.....i guess i will follow your lead, post your name, address and phone number along with everyone else.

geekin_topekan 9 years, 10 months ago

For real clubmgr.Without taking sides I have to say that your dignifying such remarks is not productive or becoming of your cause.The best defense against slander is the thruth.The truth will prevail,I promise.By pushing the issue you may actually be tarnishing the good dr.'s credibility.Sometimes less is more and the wise man holds his tongue while everyone else speaks jibberish.

Agent_X 9 years, 10 months ago

Clubby is fightin everyone assuming they are against Warner. What made clubby assume I was against Warner, White, PBPN or they never had association with Haskell? I made the statement the other day just to be funny but I guess it hit a nerve. I am an alumni of Haskell as well as a former Haskell worker (not disgruntled) during the Swisher years and the transition to Warner. I recently left the job at Haskell to pursue other opportunities. I'm not on anyone's side until I get the facts but what is fact and what is fiction? Warner and her camp are playing offense and defense about her character, the Board releasing statements left and right on removing Warner, BIE won't comment on anything relevant. The ones who are losing are the students. Its like a marriage on the rocks. Husband and wife arguing, Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!, Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes..., The dead rising from the grave!, Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!um.... yeah.So what happened to you Clubmgr2 to assume and attack? The WHITE man still keeping you down, Board of Regents touch you in the wrong way, Warner took you under her wing, now you feel obligated to protect her? What? Seriously?SO WHY ARE YOU HIDING? Whoooooooooo are you? (Who? Who? Who? Who?)

wassupwitu98 9 years, 10 months ago

This is a power struggle. Both sides need to be evaluated to see what each has done for the institution. And again, Indian people are great at keeping each other down. We sure don't need help doing this, we are our own worse enemy.More issues facing native people: DIABETES, alcoholism, domestic violence, sexual abuse, obesity, corruption of tribal governments, tribes without casinos and lack of funds to operate programs, mismangement of trust funds, loss of culture, repatriation, gangs on reservations, grandparents raising grandchildren, frybread is not a traditional native food. Did some research, Haskell and SIPI are funded by the government, what about the other tribal colleges? And why does this paper only report the negative stuff about Haskell. Didn't Haskell begin a program to send students to study abroad?

rowdygirl 9 years, 10 months ago

hummm! sounds like you all need to go for a run and work off your tensions and stop this nonsense babbling. bla, bla, bla. Hahahaha.

Oyegi_Thamu 9 years, 10 months ago

And here I thought SIPI had problems. I know that BIE has plenty of issues at the K-12 schools that they need to deal with that the Inspector General cited as recently as last Friday. Now HINU's & SIPI's problems are added to the mix.BIE has alot of work ahead of them to get all the problems fixed. It would be nice if the leadership of these agencies stay around for more than a year so that these problems are taken care of instead of being passed on to the next bureaucrat.

geekin_topekan 9 years, 10 months ago

Probably none of my business but..Can sombody define "Questionable hiring practices" for me?It would make it so much more interesting for the reader.

numhale 9 years, 10 months ago

Four tribes of Kansas??? Where are the other fine Nations with casinos to donate monies? Dunno about Warner but from what I had heard about her unappropriate behavior with hiring practices, it doesn't sound good. She will probably be transferred to another BIA school to keep her retirement. Sound familiar. Our memories are so short?? Alumnae of 1957 and 1960.

Fredafriedbread 9 years, 10 months ago

Why is Chairman Steve Ortiz suppporting anything when his boys (Steve Jr.& Dominc) are doing the same thing amongst the PBPN? They also have the support of the Tuckwin family. They are all corrupt when it comes to political agendas!

kcwarpony 9 years, 10 months ago

numhale (Anonymous) says:"Dunno about Warner but from what I had heard about her unappropriate behavior with hiring practices, it doesn't sound good. She will probably be transferred to another BIA school to keep her retirement. Sound familiar. Our memories are so short??"Exactly. For those of us with a watchful eye, we do not want to see history repeat itself.

kcwarpony 9 years, 10 months ago

"Linda Sue Warner, CEO of the Indian Community School, will honor one of her mentors, Gerald E. Gipp, executive director of the American Indian Higher Education Consortium and a long-time leader in Indian education.""Gerald Gipp "is still teaching me," says Linda Sue Warner. "His energy, integrity and dedication to Indian education are inspiring."

numhale 9 years, 10 months ago

Being a proud, traditional, enrolled PBPN member, I hold Steve N the Boys at the highest level of prestige. I have yet to see any "wrong doings" of the family. I am, also, proud to say our tribal council is highly educated and are go getters and work and strive together. PBPN has accomplished building a great infrastructure of the Rez with the help of casino monies. Thank you$$$ There are numerous others who are dedicated PBPN employees. Of the 500 plus Nations, when are the other tribal leaders going to be involved with Haskell with their casino monies with their political agendas? Kudos to kcwarpony for reminding me of "Gipp days".

thegirlnextdoor 9 years, 10 months ago

Clubmgr2 or Clubby as you've been called (LOL),You know:I'm going to pray for you. You blog with so much hate, anger, and animosity. Something is not right with you mentally, emotionally, or spiritually. You should let things go, the creator will take care of it. We are all concerned about the education situation at Haskell. As an alumnus, it saddens me to learn about all the controversy through the native grape vine. You forget, the Haskell community extends far beyond Lawrence, Kansas and the BIA. We are not for or against Dr. Warner, unless she has done wrong. We are only Haskell supporters!!! P.S. It's a good thing that the Kansas tribes are speaking out. You can't straddle the lines your whole life. They probably know just as much if not more about Haskell than the people who live and work there. Be cautious:don't ruin it for Haskell.

haskellsupporter 9 years, 10 months ago

It is with sadness that these items occur. If there is valid proof that malfeasance or severe misfeasance is occuring then by all means, Dr. Warner should hit the road. But if this is merely because someone is not getting their personal agenda pushed through, then Dr. Warner should stay right where she is............dishonest people will always trip themselves up when the proper evidence is disclosed.....Whereas, honest people have nothing to hide....Let the evidence come forward....

AequusNathan 9 years, 10 months ago

I do like the President on a personal level, but after speaking with her, I must say that I don't agree with her plans for the future. I hope she changes, rather than being relieved of her position.

whorukidng222 9 years, 10 months ago

Come on. She's made some much needed personnel changes. Some of those 'changed' are from those Kansas tribes, some from south of the Kansas border. Again, they were much needed changes and could have been even more drastic. Everything else is a smokescreen. Politics as usual. Kudos for doing the right thing madame president.

rooper 9 years, 10 months ago

This new president simply seems to be cleaning up the campus. She seems to be making people work instead of loafing around. she did the whole health thing which haskell needed back when i was there. and i grew up there. she's trying to get native people to push themselves and not be lazy. sadly, i thought i'd never want to be part of haskell again because i didn't want to sit back and be lazy which i saw a lot of the staff and faculy that way. not all, but a lot. some people there are fantastic and do what they are supposed to do, educate and inspire. there are too many that go there, hide out and get a paycheck. native people need to start checking things out but don't be so quick to burn bridges.

numhale 9 years, 10 months ago

Here we go again: picking on "those Kansas tribes". I guess you call "cronies" under the category of "some much needed personnel changes". As for everyone else who are blogging this issue and cannot find a kind word of "those Kansas tribes", where are your tribal representation and/or monies? I don't see Haskell as a local Native American college. I am a third generation of Haskell as well as 4 grandchildren attending there and their parents as well. Haskell gave me plenty of memories, friends from every corner of the USA and last, but not least, a good education for my bread n butter. Sure I defend Haskell but when it comes to push n shove on negativity, I am loyal to my Nation and uphold our Native Constitution and remember the good 'ol name of "Onward Haskell!" It takes the positive to change the negative. Haskell is overdue on CHANGE. It surely is needed. But when you have the federal government civil servants, they are forced to relocate and get a promotion to do their same 'ol same 'ol. Need I remind you of the "Gipp days", again? They kinda get stagnant. Hopefully with young, educated Natives, they should apply for federal jobs at Haskell especially the chain of command.

ndndiva76 9 years, 10 months ago

My name is D, from midwest and sw tribes. My history with the school is my grandparents worked there from the 60's-80's and both retired from there. I spent my first 2 years living on campus (B4 houses were replaced with Coffin Complex) and I spent my life from 0-9 growing up there. My mother and stepdad worked there thru the 90's and I still have fam working there and students there.Interesting.My fam and some of the alumni club here in ABQ has been wondering about this for awhile. All I can say is my "dad" (grandpa who raised me) retired as the Admin. Officer b4 computers and his secretary remembers when every penny was accounted for.My family and their best friends from there (former Pres. and fam) do not have good issues with Gipp. We recall my dad and the Prez at the time being on the top of his Sh*t list.As for Mr. Tiger, he was my mother's 1st husband when he was a student there.I'm just sad because my best memories of my life are when I lived in Lawrence and I LOVED growing up in the Haskell environment.I had the honor of being babysitted in the 70's by people who are influential in NDN country (Dorothy Nez, the artist, lived with us for awhile plus others). HIJC back then. And now knowing good friends of my "parents" who excel in all walks of life. George Tsouliarkis, now a famous artist. Charles "Charlie" Brown, a former Asst. District Atty and now a judge in the Albuquerque court system. Plus so many more.I remember the walks we would take in the arena, "mom & daddy" & me, watching my "mom" climb the steps, leading to the seats that we would enjoy exciting football games... later enjoying the LHS High School games when I moved back there for a short my soph. year.The powwows, where I learned to dance...The inspiration for education that I still hold close to my soul today.I was too young to know the bureaucracy then, I'm far removed from my birthhome now.Keep the dream alive. Please...DawnWichita, Oglala Lakota, Santo Domingo/Cochiti PuebloLawrence "Rez"ident 1976-1985 and 1992

Qestionsthatneedanswers 9 years, 10 months ago

Has anyone else heard that the OIG recommended that the BIE conduct an Administrative Investigation after they came to Haskell in June? Has any students contacted Ms. Birdwell's office to verify such an investigation? Someone did a week ago and was told that it was an ongoing investigation through the fall. Why hasn't the BIE advised Haskell students and employees about this? If there is no investigation why is there an OIG officer still taking statements from Haskell Alumi, friends, students and employees?

Camille 9 years, 10 months ago

Well...I understand all...our Native Nations are concerned about higher education and other issues...throw the cards on the table and quit pussy footing around. Haskell needs the most upstanding President to represent Haskell's Native Americans to their best. Is she is or is she not. We know the difference between right and wrong, yes and no...come on...get it over I can read about the new President...C

sypeccary 9 years, 10 months ago

This is about power and who wants it. Its common knowledge who is behind this. They lie, gossip and use others to do their dirty work. They want to be in charge, they desperately need attention, they do not want be accountable, they do not want to be held to standards. Anyone who challenges them are labeled "anti-indian," but their smear campaign against Warner and others is doing more damage than their little minds know. Too bad the local tribes and the BOR follow along like sheep without thinking for themselves. How do you become a BOR anyway?

numhale 9 years, 9 months ago

REMINDER: BOR meeting October 14-17. Be there.

UFC_FAN 9 years, 9 months ago

is she worse than swisher? that is hard to do. if so, then bye. haskell needs MAJOR reforms. there is no way that haskell can survive on its current path in the future. money issues. it is going to take someone with a vision, political pull, and an insane desire. we have a tradition that is worth saving. lives have been saved and lost there (we have a cemetary on campus). we have alumnae (sp?) who are american war heroes. we have alumnae (again, sp?) who are revolutionists. we can restore the respect that Haskell deserves but it will be difficult and painful.

mlawyer 9 years, 8 months ago

I am currently an active freshman at Haskell. I am a very proud student here. I believe that there was a definite need for the investigation. There was a "proposed" 10 ft. wall that was going to built around the whole campus. It's main function was to enhance the safety and security of the students. Just recently our two security patrolmen have been assigned to watch over dorm facilities (leaving no security on-hand, which could be a fatal mistake due to events that happened on other campuses remember Virginia Tech) Since then, I have known of about 5-8 vandalized cars. That is one of those situations that the security is set-up to fail to get statistics to make the wall more favorable. From what I know Dr Warner is the only authorative figure to make this kind of call. Some clubs and organizations have called for some simple audits and there still has been no production of any kind of documents or receipts. In order to get the student backing of any president I believe these issues need to be addressed. There is one major issue that the students feel strongly about and that is the opposition of the fee increase. If there is no accountability, ongoing investigations, nepotism, rumors, and biased decisions, we will remain adament on our decision. I hope that clubmgr2 will not be looking to be hired at HINU any time soon seeing how "ciriculum vitae," is apart of his/her curriculum vitae.If there is any further questions/answers I can provide I would be more then willing. If there is a meeting that needs to be set up with clubmgr I am willing to do that as well. Onward Haskell.

turtle53081 8 years ago

To dasgood: Right on bro! Very very insightful. So few people will understand this because it is a perspective that is well-hidden by the institutions we are immersed in.

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