Men plead guilty in stolen goods case
Two men plead guilty in federal court today to charges related to selling stolen goods to the Yellow House Store in Lawrence. Enlarge video
Two men on Monday pleaded guilty in federal court to charges related to selling stolen goods to Yellow House, 1904 Mass.
Lewis B. Parsons, 65, Ottawa, and James P. Ludwig, 66, Lawrence, both entered guilty pleas of one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering in U.S. District Court in Kansas City, Kan. Ludwig also pleaded guilty to an additional count of social security benefit fraud.
The men admitted stealing such items as tools, cameras and electronics from businesses and selling them to Yellow House and then working with Carrie Neighbors to conceal the conspiracy.
According to the plea agreement, Yellow House paid at last $102,000 to Ludwig for the stolen goods. Ludwig received payment by checks written on an account held in the name of "Yellow House Quality Appliance Guy or Carrie Neighbors," according to the plea agreement.
Guy and Carrie Neighbors, the owners of Yellow House, face allegations of money laundering and wire fraud and, in a separate case, federal drug charges.
A federal gun charge filed against the couple was dismissed late last year.
The Neighborses could not be reached Monday night.
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yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
A few things were left out of this story. Like Mr. Ludwig perjured himself during testimony , and will be held accountable for his lies. How can there be a conspiracy if the Yellow House did not know the stuff was stolen? Paid for all the merchandise with checks drawn on the business, and did all the transactions at the front counter in open view of the public! What was being covered up here? Why isn't the Pawn Shops facing the same charges after it was discovered a few months ago they iwere selling guns and tools that the local police stole from the LKPD Propety room?This is nothing more than the Government once again using the Media as an outlet to cover-up for their own corruption and conspiracy and using the Yellow House as a sacrificial lamb!http://corruptioninjusticedepartment.blogspot.com/
cowboy (anonymous) says…
what did you all buy for 102,000 ?
cowboy (anonymous) says…
Sounds like the good ship yellowhouse just sunk ! Having been sympathetic to the cause in the past , how do you spend 102,000 and not know what youre buying ? answers please
GSWtotheheart (anonymous) says…
can we get a poem about how you lie and then blame everyone else and deny that you did anything wrong, yet the pot plants were found in your house and convictions are coming down???
fu7il3 (anonymous) says…
You are all part of the conspiracy. This goes all the way up to the Dalai Lama. The JFK Assassination has nothing on the Yellow House Conspiracy.
smitty (anonymous) says…
Re JW's coverage: In the hard copy the story is headlined with the top line of Yellow House in blue ink then the headline that is published on the the forum. I have often found these differences in the hard and on-line versions of the same story and wonder why. For this to be the biggest fencing operation in the history of Lawrence, $102,000 seems rather small. Perjury is often the case in a roll over situation if I am to believe what I read in the news. Especially if you an take into consideration the implication that the LPD are responsible for merchandise from the evidence room finding it's way to the pawn shops. Sounds like someone in the LPD is involved in fencing. Is it known whether Olin has initiated an investigation into his department's procedures for the evidence room?
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
$102,000?? OVer a 5 year period, and the amount is unsubstantiated by the defense. Further more, the amount was derived because everything done with this person was documented!Both These men presented themselves to the Yellow House as honest business men selling products wholesale for very large amounts of money. (People that are knowingly conspiring or buying stolen property do not pay nearly retail cost for things and document the buys!)These guys Even produced brochures and reciepts at times for the products they sold to the business. The Yellow House is still open for business and will never stop fighting for justice! This is a conspiracy and cover-up because the Yellow House owners have dared to stand up for their rights and speak-out against the corrupt police officers and prosecutors involved in this case!
geniusmannumber1 (anonymous) says…
Seriously, smitty, why the pretense? Do you think you're being clever with your faux-"objective" take on things? Do you think everyone doesn't know that you're Guy, Carrie, or one of the kids?What's most irritating is the constant need to feel that you've got a lot of supporters, when -- as everyone has been telling you in multiple forums for months and months:a) You have irritated 99% of the people who might otherwise have taken your side (read it carefully--I'm not saying 99% of people would ordinarily be on your side -- it's not as though yh didn't have a reputation before this), and b) Every word that you spew from your keyboard is one more shovel load of dirt out of your own grave. How many attorneys have you run through now out of sheer frustration for your refusal to take their advice? Oh yeah, some of them have been in on the conspiracy, too.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
I went to Mr. Neighbors blog site out of curiousity and found it quite humorous with letters that he has sent to all branches of the system it seems and everyone has said he basically has no case and move on to the next letter. Even our Governer stated that she could not help him with his so called plight. The Lawrence Community for the most part sees this for what it is. A guy trying to look innocent that really is not. This place really needs to just stay closed. It had terrible stuff in it that didnt work after the first week that you purchased it and no to find out stuff there was stolen and re sold . It really doesnt suprise me.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Pudgy1,You are funny! There has been a huge investigation by the FBI wearing suits and carrying brief cases and radios.I have a friend on the police dept. that informed me that every officer on the force has been interviewed at least 4 times, and 5 officers and at least 2 detectives have put in for transfers because of the corruption in this police dept.The question is not why has the LJW not reported about the FBI investigation?
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
The blog site might be humorous, the fact that no officials wanted to investigate the serious complaints to even see if they had merit is outragous and sad! but the story is not over until the fat lady sings!And he who laughs last, laughs best! Especially when this crap that the police are pulling starts costing the City and Tax payers some serious $$$$$$
hipper_than_hip (anonymous) says…
Is that the same James Ludwig who owned J&L Guns in the early 80's?
hipper_than_hip (anonymous) says…
My goof: the name of the shop was JPL Guns, which might match up with James P. Ludwig.
jackbinkelman (anonymous) says…
"working with Carrie Neighbors to conceal the conspiracy" sounds made up.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Conceal...that is funny! Guy and Carrie dont conceal anything!! All you have to do is go to the web site and see that!
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Well pudgy1 Get your head out of your ass, did you know there are also officers on administrative leave right now pending the investigation?
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Look at the website? What a laugh. Im sure there are other documents out there. The ones that are on the site are useless and will not exhonerate (sp?) yellowhouse. They are the documents showing that you are being invstigated and documents that were ones you decided to write to alot of people to get your word out and I belive you sent the original letters to them to get their response. No one wants anything to do with this thats the funny thing and it has to do with Guy and Carrie not LPD, the FBI and heck lets throw in some church members too lol. I understand that LJWorld reported this because its in the courts but news for LJWorld we dont care about the yellowhouse "plight" story its old news and actually like I said before the only thing it is is amusing. I get a good laugh out of it anymore. You people ramble like crazy persons.
pace (anonymous) says…
there are some people who find the lpd charges a bit self serving and do believe that while yh seemed stupid they don't seem to be master fencers as the lpd have tried to make them out. I don't really care if yh was stupid but it is more important that lpd seems ready to use bogus witnesses to shove this case down Lawrences's throat. it has been expensive for us taxpayers. It also sounds like the lpd needs a culture change. It sounds like they think they are in chicago.
acg (anonymous) says…
Hey, now, don't bust their chops for a few weed plants. That's not that big of a deal. Here's my question, though. If you knew you were being investigated by the LPD and the KBI on this fencing stuff, why didn't you have the foresight to take the illegal marijuana growing operation out of your freaking house? A lot of people were leaning your way, thinking maybe ya'll were innocent, that was until the pics of the pot plants being taken from your house hit the papers. That would've been the first thing I would've done. But then again, I'm way too paranoid to try and grow pot.
GSWtotheheart (anonymous) says…
acg (Anonymous) says: Hey, now, don't bust their chops for a few weed plants. That's not that big of a deal. _____________________What gets me is their claim that they don't do drugs yet there were numerous pot plants found in their house. When that was brought up by me and others on the message boards, yellowhouse posted that they were for medicinal use for Guy. You can't claim one thing, and that you are being picked on, then we see proof to the contrary, then you claim something else.I don't care if it was pot, ectasy, child porn, or whatever. The point is that they lied. And they got caught. And that erases any credibility they ever had. I'm sick of reading how the LPD is corrupt and the FBI falsified this and that, and they are being picked on and all that other sorry crap. Trying to obfuscate the issue doesn't mean it's going to go away. And frankly, I don't believe a word that yellowhouse posts because of afore-mentioned credibility issues.Never have been a supporter of yellowhouse and I see how Guy and Carrie can't just admit they did wrong.I'm sorry, but if some 60 yo men kept coming into my business selling tools and other stuff here and there to the tune of over $100,000, I would not ever fool myself into thinking they were "legitimate businessmen." I'd call that tripe but I don't want to insult tripe.
smitty (anonymous) says…
Out of the back of an unmarked police van in the LE parking lot at midnight?
workinghard (anonymous) says…
Hey if this is the same Ludwig he stole a bunch of guns from us. He was given them to sell on consignment then disappeared with them. The only one that upset me was the 44 Automag. They didn't make too many of them from what I understand.
brujablanco (anonymous) says…
Pure psychological projection on YH's part - reminds me of Marion just a little, and his sidekick.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
Yellow House, answer me this: What is the LPD's motivation to bring you down with this vast "conspiracy"? What exactly do they get out of this? As with most conspiracy theories, it is the answers to these questions that shoot your theories down. There is not a significant enough reward for the risk involved...it's not even close.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Hey Smitty,I have 3 biological kids, 2 adopted kids and 29 foster kids..now according to geniusmannumber1 I have a Smitty! Welcome to the family!!
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Funny how Yellowhouse got quiet when asked to prove something. They cant and to have the public believe that LPD and KBI have nothing better to do with their time than pick on a poor poor pitiful small Lawrence business without merit makes me laugh.The pot plants did it for me too. They lost all credibility when they were caught in a lie. Then on a earlier article post Guy states that it was no big deal because there were only small plants. You lied. Admit it. You do drugs and are just a dumb*** for not getting them out. Also not choosing to ask for more proof or receipts or anything and turning your head in the matter is the same as concealing Carrie. For 2 who get on here and claim to know all about the law you sure have wrote worthless letters upon letters to people who wont even give you the time of day. I have family who are cops and they even say you need to quit puffing so much cause you are just blowing smoke.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Yellowhouse that doesnt make you a good parent. Maybe you are trying to get money from the govt for raising kids. I have no idea. Im wondering if you still foster children with being busted with the pot. Seems like thats what you do though is use things that are not yours to make money off of.
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
Pudgy1: "name them then."Anyone note the glaring silence from YH on this?
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Ludwig is set for sentencing Dec. 15. Parsons is scheduled for sentencing Oct. 20, 2008. The maximum penalty for each count is five years in federal prison and a fine up to $250,000. Anybody wonder why these two have sentence dates so far out in the future?answer:Because the corrupt prosecutors are trying to drag it out because they have nobody to testify against the yellow house! And somehow the prosecutor hopes to use these two scared old mens ridiculous false perjured testimony, apparently that is what the corrupt prosecutor offered as the plea deal! (what a joke!)My question is why did the LJworld leave this part out of the story? Are they trying to cover-up for the corruption here?
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
wa wa wa still hearing the tiny little violins. Whatever. Answer the question put forth by Pudgy1. Your BS doesnt fly here.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Once these two old men are sentenced they will have no reason to continue to lie!!
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Pudgy1 knows everything plain and simple already...why would I need to answer anything he asks? Ask him for the answer..
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
evasive evasive evasive. again whatever. I should have expected that answer.
hipper_than_hip (anonymous) says…
workinghard:Ludwig sold my high standard model B without my permission while it was in his shop getting fitted for a new magazine.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
lol yh was right about 1 thing. Pudgy1 did know. He knew as well as alot of us that there are none and you yh are still in stonersville.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
.....still waiting.... What is the LPD's motivation to bring you down with this vast "conspiracy"? This is a tough one, isn't it?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
yellowhouse-just a word of advice. Don't make Ludwig mad. He's not a very nice person when he's mad, even being over 60.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Evidently they didnt notice Pudgy they were too busy gardening in the basement. Maybe they were thinking in all the smoke that it was the same freakin bike lol. Oh I forgot they dont do drugs. Good point though they arent going to take a risk for anyone. I think yh went to bed or gardening or something. He comes on here with all the blah blah blah and doesnt answer any questions put forth to him.
workinghard (anonymous) says…
Ludwig+guns+Yellow House---Kind of makes you wonder about the possibilities.
workinghard (anonymous) says…
Shouldn't there be some income tax evasion on the two guys, they did make $102,00. Hey YH maybe you can cut a deal and testify against them. Could you ask him if he still has my AutoMag?Guardian, did he give you some money at least or did you make him get it back?
misseve (anonymous) says…
I remember once why my apt was robbed i called all the pawnshops in town and was asking if anything fitting the description of my items have been brought in and i got this LONG rant about how they dont buy stolen items... How would the know if the things they were buying were stolen or not? I also remember how much they ranted on about being mistreated and that there were lies told about them. Oh the drama continues for them...
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Evenin' Pudgy1.Sorry workinghard, you lost me on that one. If you are referring to my comment about Ludwig, let me just say I know some of his history from when I used to frequent his gun shop years ago. I would be very concerned if he came after me.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
So how did these guys get checks with your names on it YH? LjWorld they couldnt be reached for comment cause they were right under your nose here in the blogs. geesh
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
Wow, this is an interesting twist on things isn't it. I wonder how many undercover FBI agents are lurking here, just waiting to assist in the massive conspiracy against YH. "Mr. Ludwig perjured himself during testimony , and will be held accountable for his lies." my gosh, who HASN'T lied to frame poor YH? Anyone? If you haven't lied to hurt YH, please raise your hand. Anyone??????????????
Jeremy (anonymous) says…
I wonder how many cancelled checks, bank statements, and ledgers were confiscated during those illegal search warrants "the man" performed on Yellow House and their residence? Surely they'll be thrown out by the judge for being seized under false pretenses.Sounds like the gov't is "getting their ducks in a row".I also suspect the the 2 dudes' sentence dates are so far along in the year so the Feds have plenty of time to have them testify against Yellow House to ensure they complete the deal they made before their sentencing."I don't know when the fun started, but I sure know when it ended"!
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
was_freashpowder: Why? What is the LPD's Motivation? What do they get out of conspiring with all of Lawrence to put the store owners away? If you want people to believe in your conspiracy, there has to be significant motive, and for the life of me, I cannot find one.
headdoctor (anonymous) says…
I am still trying to figure out if this is the same Ludwig who some years back was busted on federal charges of gun running and turned on his associates to save his own backside. If it is, the Feds already know they can play him like a fiddle to get at YH.
MacHeath (anonymous) says…
Yeah, I dont know if its the same Ludwig, but I know the one you are taking about. He had a son that was a scumbucket too. He used to run a gun shop here, years ago.I dont know Neighbors, but I know plenty of folks that do.He has always been lazy, and looking for the easy way.Well, prison is pretty easy for ya. They even ring a bell when its time to eat. You will like it. You will find a bunch of friends there. Lots of innocent folks there you can whine with.
headdoctor (anonymous) says…
Marion (Marion Lynn) says: was_freashpowder (Anonymous) says:see this is why the yellow house writes checks to people there is a paper trail !! if your doing illegal things you dont leave a paper trail, and since the store is not shut down and the owners are not in prison I am gona guess that the paper trail and the fact the yellow house was not helping these two morons is a good reason why the charges have been dropped 3 times but because the prosecutor has to save face and not look like a moron for listening to a convicted felon and going after the wrong people (The Yellow house owners !!) . I rest my case"Marion writes:Good points, which I'm sure will not be overlooked by a judge or a jury.I smell a setup.______________________________________Leaving a paper trail doesn't mean their innocent. It may just mean they were dumb. Ever hear of, "the worlds dumbest criminals"?
headdoctor (anonymous) says…
I do have to agree that the gun and drug charges were a waste of time and those subjects seem to be what YH keeps crying fowl about. I find it amusing that YH never wants to address the 19 counts against them that have not been dropped. If they get convicted on those 19 counts the gun and drug charge will seem like a cake walk.
jpro86 (anonymous) says…
oh how easy it is to hide behind an alias, calling out peoples' sons.. what does Ludwig's son have anything to do with this? He committed no crime..
TheOriginalCA (anonymous) says…
When a business such as Yellow House or pawn shop purchases goods from individuals, they are "supposed" to check the goods against a theft database to ensure that they are not stolen. Sounds to me as though Yellow House not only turned their backs on proper procedure, but had knowingly engaged in many illegal activities for quite some time.One time I gave an old washer and dryer to YH so that I could get rid of them, The guy from YH showed up to pick them up and pulled his truck right up into our yard without asking and then ran through our flower bed and did a lot of damage. I tried to get the guy to stop and he just yelled at me to get out of his way. I showed him the damage that he caused and he told me that I didn't know what I was talking about and to quit b|tch'n. I called YH to get them to come out and repair the damage and of course got no where with that... as expected.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
Why would LPD conspire to take down a sub-standard goods shop? WHY??? WHY????
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
Will anyone affiliated with this campaign of idiocy ever answer that question.
Keith (anonymous) says…
"Anonymous userhipper_than_hip (Anonymous) says:Is that the same James Ludwig who owned J&L Guns in the early 80's?"IF it is, he's already been put away once for (if I remember correctly) selling machine guns to folks without bothering with the paperwork.
JasonM (anonymous) says…
Haiku 4 U!The PO-LICE are badYellowhouse guy told me soWhy should I doubt him?(this must be read aloud, accompanied by off-key banjo music, and with a Hillbilly accent)
headdoctor (anonymous) says…
Pudgy1 (Anonymous) says: Yes it is the same James P. Ludwig from JPL gun shop___________________________________________If it is the same one he was probably trying to make enough money to take care of his son and perhaps his sons offspring. His son was in an industrial accident a few years back that left him not very functional, like as in bed ridden requiring a lot of care. Ludwig was selling everything in sight to try to cover the care debt after the money ran out. He may have even lost his home trying to do the right thing.Thats not an excuse for criminal behavior but if that is the case I could understand.
smitty (anonymous) says…
Repeat criminal turning over on a local business after collecting his portion of $102K over sevral years time span. Yes sir, I can believe all the cop roaches when they put out the straw arguements of what possibly be the LPD motive. The denials sound very much like those after they covered up a homcide in far east Lawrence.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
"Yes sir, I can believe all the cop roaches when they put out the straw arguements of what possibly be the LPD motive. The denials sound very much like those after they covered up a homcide in far east Lawrence." Notice that this is not an answer to the question, but a deflection followed by a change of subject. There is no answer to the question of LPD motive because Yellow House made the whole thing up! You don't want LPD messing with you? Stop being criminals.
mutpuppy (anonymous) says…
TheOriginalCA (Anonymous) says: When a business such as Yellow House or pawn shop purchases goods from individuals, they are "supposed" to check the goods against a theft database to ensure that they are not stolen. Sounds to me as though Yellow House not only turned their backs on proper procedure, but had knowingly engaged in many illegal activities for quite some time.----------------------------Yellow House is not a pawn shop, they are not under the same regulations or protections as a pawn show and this procedure you speak of does not apply to them.
mutpuppy (anonymous) says…
PUDGY 1................. I am suprised that you believe everything you read here because you youreself said before that "Everyone knows the newspapers only prints half truths!!" (see below) Such a hipocrit! This was taken from another LJworld blog story.------------------------------------------------------------Pudgy1 (Anonymous) says: Wow, everyone here knows and many have claimed, that the media prints half-truths. How many here were actually at the scene of this tazing incident? The cops may have screwed the pooch but you folks damn sure don't know the facts if you weren't there. If the cops had let him drive home and he'd had an accident, you all would have crucified them for that as well.... instead of playing the blame game when you don't know the facts.-------------------------------------------------------------
mutpuppy (anonymous) says…
So them my questions to you is were you at the scene when Yellow House was buying items. You don't have a clue what story there were being fed. I know when we were growing up we always had at least 5 bikes in our garage because we had a big family. IF we had gone through some hard times and needed some extra cash, we could have sold them. take your own advice... and Stop playing the blame game when you don't know the facts!
geniusmannumber1 (anonymous) says…
Again, no answer to the question -- why? Why would LPD take the trouble?Of course, I don't expect an answer. I don't mind conspiracy theories. I just mind stupid conspiracy theories.
mutpuppy (anonymous) says…
Doesn't mean you know what he told Yellow House when she bought them. Does that mean you knew when he stole them? Why didn't you report it?
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Again fresh that blog spot is pointless. A bunch of copies of useless letters and ramblings. Most of which were written to officials in which the officials including the governer that you could tell they were blowing them off knowing how much of a crock they are. Also the Original CA was not wrong. I have gone through the same thing as him and employees were rude and tore up our yard that ended up mud. As a supposed kid of theres (even though I believe you are guy himself hiding) you probably dont know the ins and outs of everything there as none of us really do but come on writing checks that total that amount. Carrie had to know it was illegal and where are her documents stating that she checked on this merchandise? Buried with the pot plants I suppose. Save your breath on the blog spot. There is nothing there to indicate a conspiracy against the poor lil yh.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
"If I was going to buy stolen stuff, I would write checks, I would have an eBay account under my own name and I would keep accurate records as did Yellow House.Yeah, right.Can you spell "s-e-t-u-p"?" How does that automatically mean a setup? It could just mean they are dumb...and judging by the writing on these boards as well as the blog they keep trying to send people to, there is some validity to that claim. AGAIN: why would they be setup? What makes them so important? Are they hiding Osama?
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
And, just to clarify Pudgy's claims: Obviously, I cannot get into specifics, but I once worked with someone who was homeless, and he said on more than one occasion that he stole bikes and sold them to Yellow House. You might say that Yellow House didn't know they were buying stolen goods. Until of course you found out they paid him usually in the 20-50 dollar range for bikes quite often worth multiple hundreds. The reason they did not have to pay much was because they KNEW the bikes were stolen and were aware that this man could not sell them anywhere else. Never mind that this man sold them bikes often and they never grew suspicious. By the way....motive? Still waiting.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Multi it is hilarious how you are comparing golf balls, fishing poles and garage sales to yh. There is no way you can have that small of a store and write checks out for $102,000.00 and not know if it was stolen if you had done your homework. I can see maybe $100.00 but wouldnt you be freakin smart enough to do a lil research and be a small bit wondering when the guy is amounting up to this kinda money.Oh Yeti you know that LPD are so bored and have so little to do that a few years ago they said "Hey lets pick on yellowhouse" (spoken in complete sarcasm) Youre right they can pay cheaper for the stolen stuff. They know they arent about to sell it anywhere else. IF they do keep records ond DL's on file then why dont they just pull the DL's and give them to the LPD? Let the LPD go after the people who sold it to them. I have to give it to them though, they are good at playing stupid.I really hope that with the drug charges though they are not allowed to do anymore foster care.
tired_of_yer_bitchin (anonymous) says…
sheesh....comparing multiple fishing poles to multiple bicycles? Heck, I have more than one fishing pole. But I don't have numerous bikes. And even if I did, I would expect folks to think it suspicious if I was to try to sell all them bikes on the same day as Pudgy is claiming. Hey, didn't YH claim that LPD officers were transferring out? or under suspension or something? If they know so much, why can't they name anyone? They keep avoiding that question.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
What is sad here is the way the witnesses in this case have been profiled and railroaded.The government has threatened them and harassed them and if that dont work they have offered bribes of anywhere from $50 up to $200.If the witnesses testimony didn't fit into what the Government wants to hear they threaten the witnesses with perjury charges.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Mental note. Dont go anywhere near whatever yw has been growing and smoking. It puts you on another planet where reality does not exist.Sorry multi. Yeah think ill go find some tea and have a drink.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
ANy Moron could see what is going on with Ludwig and Parsons.The Government got them to give perjured testimony to the Grand Jury in exchange for a plea deal. Keep in mind the Judge by no means has to honor the plea deal.Its already been established they lied before the Grand Jury for the prosecutor to get her indictment on the Neighbors. (As part of thier plea deal) Those lies will add an automatic extra mandatory 5 years for Federal Perjury charges that will be added to their sentence.Ludwig and Parsons sentencing is not sceduled until after the Sept. trial that is set for the Neighbors. The plea deal is going to require them to testify at the trial. If they stick to the story they told the Grand Jury and lie again they could be charged with Federal Perjury twice. That means when they get sentenced regardless of the plea deal they made with the dirty prosecutor, they are looking at having an extra mandatory 10 years added to their sentences for 2 federal perjury charges!This is not justice.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Yes Pudgy1, anybody who would dare to have purchased 3 bikes in one day from someone claiming to have gotten them legally definately needs to have those bikes confiscated and then be put in prison for 40 years! How dare them commit such an offense!I am calling the bike police in the morning! Oh wait! Maybe I should just call the Pawn shop and save the police the trouble!Then I am taking my 5 fishing poles and going fishing!
tired_of_yer_bitchin (anonymous) says…
Yellow House wrote: "Its already been established they lied before the Grand Jury for the prosecutor to get her indictment on the Neighbors."Poor Poor Yellow House. Everyone on this planet (except possibly Marion) is willing to lie under oath, lie to a grand jury, to get Yellow House in trouble. All these people. All these lies. All these corrupt prosecutors, corrupt Judges, corrupt everyone.... And you know damned good and well what I'm talking about with the bikes. The drunk who painted your front walk?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
yellowhouse (Anonymous) says: "What is sad here is the way the witnesses in this case have been profiled and railroaded.The government has threatened them and harassed them and if that dont work they have offered bribes of anywhere from $50 up to $200."Um, OK! So they are going to get up tp $200 for lying in Federal Court about your illegal activities! WOW! This is a huge conspiracy against you. This is really high stakes stuff! No wonder the FBI was called in to bankroll such an expensive investigation.
storm (anonymous) says…
I don't think people should pass judgement about Yellow House, I mean it's the LJW reporting. LJW is known for omitting information and even skewing facts. Remember when Lawrence Athletic Club kicked the Mom out for nursing her infant in the nursey? LJW said it was a father that complained, no it was the actual owner....LAC is a big contributer for advertising. So please just leave the Neighbors alone.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
tired_of_yer_bitchin (Anonymous) ---OH I see when you and the drunks are not painting sidewalks and stealing bikes; you are also qualified to be offering your expertise on the Governments corruption and everyone on the planet! Damn What on earth were we thinking?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Hey Pudgy1, maybe the better question is why would they want to be transferred? Do they not want to take part in the conspiracy? I've been told by my cop friends that participating in conspiracies is optional for LPD officers. No punitive action will be taken against any officer who refuses to participate in a conspiracy.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
You know how I know LPD is not a bunch of trigger happy murders? Smitty is still with us.
mutpuppy (anonymous) says…
I think if after three years of putting up with this crap they don't have enough to shut down their business, then they need to leave them the hell alone. Those of you out there thinking they're guilty need to ask yourselves then what should the punishment be? They have been put through three years of absolute hell. Been scrutinized, shunned, outcasted and judged before they have even had a trial, and most of that before they were even charged! I thought about not sharing this, but maybe ya'll need to know. Their whole lives had been ruined by these accusations before they are even found guilty and that defeats the whole purpose of our justice system...The fundamental perk of being an American. They missed the birth of their first and only granddaughter because they had been arrested and dragged on and on for over a year and a half before they were charged. They have since missed her growing up, she's almost two! I just hope that those of you who are so quick to call them guilty can then ask yourselves ok when is enough enough and everyone freaking move on! If they had all this evidence and they were so guilty of this, why didn't they shut their business down? I thank God that our family is as strong as it is. Most families could not go through what our family has been through and still be sticking up for eachother and supporing each other. And NO I am not Guy or carrie, but I am a part of their family. They are two of the most amazing people l know.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
She sure seems to be.
black_butterfly (anonymous) says…
I don't know if yellowhouse is guilty of selling stolen goods, however I do know that they sell bad appliances. They don't even clean them up before hand. My old Landlord use to do business with them to furnish his rentals but he stopped because he got tired of getting appliances that didn't work. I also know that they use to sell hair for weaving. My friend said they would cut the bands of hair in half but sell them at full price. Then they had the nerve to get mad when someone accused them of it. They didn't even take the time to reseal the band around the hair, so it was obvious that they had been opening the packages and cutting them in half. Regardless if they are guilty or not, they don't do good business. And it is true. Guy is rude. My landlord had him deliver a refrigerator to my house and he didn't even try to take care when bringing it in. He broke the screen door and scratched the wall. He didn't even say sorry or try to be gentle. with the appliance or my belongings. The 'fridge was so dirty I had to wear rubber gloves and use comet and bleach to clean it. It had something that looked like molded spinach in the crispers and it smelled horrible. On top of everything else, it only worked for about three months. My landlord was furious. I would never do business there for any reason. Never.It sounds like if you are relatives or close friends then you know a different side of Guy and Carrie than the common unknown customer. But guess what, it is customers that keep a business going! I commend Carrie's courage on trying to defend her business and her family's honor, but Carrie, sometimes you just have to "own up" to your mistakes and move on. Have you all ever considered moving out of Lawrence? Not to let anyone run you off, but hun, the racism and classism in Lawrence is NOT going to stop. You and Guy are always going to have a hard time and a hard way to go here in Lawrence. GAWD Lawrence is so full of 'isms.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
You are dissillusioned if you believe the city is going to pay them for anything. To the comment about them missing the birth of a grandchild. Dont do the crime and you wont be doing the time. Still no answer to Pudgy1's question I see. The owners are free because just like anyone else they can post bond. They are still due in court and I hope they get their butts handed to them. To the question of why they are still open. This is a very interestiong question becuase it sure as hell isnt because of the business crowds. I always wondered with their prices and hardly no one ever there how they got to stay in business. I guess it was all those "side" business'
mutpuppy (anonymous) says…
That's my whole point Buggie 7, they haven't been found guilty of a crime ... and at the time had not even been charged with a freaking crime
ksdivakat (anonymous) says…
This thread is hilarious! Just the other day there was another article about LPD and everyone on that article including some of you whose names I see on here...were ranting, absolutely ranting about how corrupt the police dept was, and now its another story, I dont know if those people are guilty or not, I dont do business with them, and I never will, my conclusion is this...some of you people just like to bit$h and moan and groan and disagree with anyone...drama makes your day....so I guess carry on with your bad self! LMAO
ksdivakat (anonymous) says…
This thread is hilarious! Just the other day there was another article about LPD and everyone on that article including some of you whose names I see on here...were ranting, absolutely ranting about how corrupt the police dept was, and now its another story, I dont know if those people are guilty or not, I dont do business with them, and I never will, my conclusion is this...some of you people just like to bit$h and moan and graon and disagree with anyone...drama makes your day....so I guess carry on with your bad self! LMAO
ksdivakat (anonymous) says…
Whoops! Sorry posted twice...blonde moment!!!
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
and I have seen Ksdiva do her share of that moaning and groaning.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Tell me freashpowder, how many times has LPD come after you for doing nothing? And to re-ask Pudgy1's question, can you name the cops that violated your Constitutional rights?
justaputz (anonymous) says…
hello everybody!
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Well, that's interesting, Now try answering my queston. One single IRS agent is not the LPD and certainly not all that unusual. The technical term for that is called "an audit".
Guardian (anonymous) says…
OK, so if I start a blog describing my personal contact with John Kennedy in the last three years and tell exactly how he faked his own death to fool Fidel Castro and the New Orleans Mafia, I must be telling the truth because it's on a blog, right?
been_there (anonymous) says…
I thought we had settled the conspiracy theory back in Feb when I accused YH of removing stolen property from the store after it was identified in the store by the victim who had to get the police to force Carrie to return his property. YH said the police would come knocking on my door to disprove my lies after getting my identity from LJW. I publicly gave the LJW permission to give the police the information so they wouldn't have to get a court order. Two months later and I have not been contacted, so that disproves the conspiracy theory because if there was one they would have been all over me.
been_there (anonymous) says…
YH keeps talking about being the victim here but there is no mention of their victims. Hundreds and quite possibly thousands of victims had their hard earned items end up at YH. Would the thieves have stolen some of it if there had not been someplace so readily available to sell it. Take the 15 bikes for example. Would they have stolen that many in a day if there was no place to sell them. At the very least they encouraged the crimminal activity.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
There are other "pawn shop or consignment shop" type places in Lawrence. What I want to know is why arent they having these "consiracy" problems like YH?Let me tell you why.Because the others wont buy their stolen merchandise. They all know they can take it to YH. I heard that has been the source of money for college students. They know they can rip it off Take it to YH and they will buy it back and hocus pocus fast money.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Been_there, Please tell me who the victims are?Are these your assumptions or fact?What proof do you have there are victims? From what I hear the merchandise that was taken as evidence from the Yellow House ended up in the pawn shops, or under the christmas trees of the police officers, I don't know of one item being returned to any so called victims!Three years later the only victims are the witnesses and the business owners trying to run an honest business and putting up with the same assumptive kindergarten mentality by the police that we see right here on this forum.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Every second hand store and Pawn Shop in Lawrence has an issue with the patrons selling them stolen property. Most of the problems the other businesses have are not made public, are dealt with quietly or covered up. As a second hand dealer you are just at the mercy of your patrons. That is just the Beast of the Business.The reason the Yellow House was targeted is because the City wants the Properties they own. They saw these business owners as an easy mark. From the beginning the forfeitures have played a major role in this case. Early in the case the police were already having meetings and planing to make the YH building a site for a police sub station.The other businesses rent, or have people on the inside that can protect their interests.That is why this case is based on Conspiracy and Corruption.It started with greed, which led to misconduct, then it needed cover-up, then it needed favors, then it needed more cover-up, and then it just got to the point of no-return!
been_there (anonymous) says…
Wow, just when I thought their remarks couldn't get any farther out there and no victims besides themselves to boot. So theft is a victimless crime according to YH, "the only victims are the witnesses and the business owners trying to run an honest business"What, no comment on my first post?
been_there (anonymous) says…
You know I think someone is off their meds. Maybe they're setting the stage for an insanity defense. I hope their family doctor reads their post and does something to get them help.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Ok Pudgy this is getting boring. Evidently YH is not going to answer your question 100 and some posts after you asked and asked. The other pawn shops are very careful about what they take back and check the items out before taking them back yh you are so full of yourself. This is why you are in trouble and not them.For Petes sake close the shop and accept some responsibility for your actions.
TheYetiSpeaks (anonymous) says…
"The reason the Yellow House was targeted is because the City wants the Properties they own." .....................I....am.....speechless. Well, thats an answer. Bwaahahahhaha!
coolmarv (anonymous) says…
I often drove by the YH and thought to myself...'why don't they put a police substation in that building". Puhleeze! Actually it's it could be used by the LPD as an evidence room. It already has/had drugs, illegal weapons and stolen merchandise.
been_there (anonymous) says…
Hasn't the property across the street been for sale for years? The house next door to YH sat empty for many years as they tried to sell it. I believe the plumbing place is now empty. YH mentioned "properties" do they own any of the other buildings?
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
I havent been down there for a awhile. Is there still a liquor store next door on the south side of YH?
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Oh scum please enlighten us on your perfect no it all knowledge. Most of the postings on here are in regard to yh hilarious website and the fact that they want to get on here and blog pointless crap without answering any direct questions. If this is the way they have been with the courts and the cops (evasive) then I really understand (well with all the other evidence and there is some because of the federal charges) why they would keep an eye on them. If you have or yh has nothing to hide than quit being evasive and let the bloggers know the information they asked. They are simple questions and would only take a couple of minutes of time. It probably took longer to send the endless babble.
smitty (anonymous) says…
As pointed out on many previous occasions on this very forum, there is a high attrition rate in the LPD. Why? The honest cops move on after they are exposed to the politics of the Lawrence Police Department, aka Olin's department?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
OK Smitty, we will take the names from you. No one else is willing to mention them. With your vast knowledge about the LPD---name names. Why do I have a feeling we will be here awhile?
smitty (anonymous) says…
......there is a high attrition rate in the LPD. Why?Your turn first. Why do I have a feeling we will be here awhile?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
High attrition rate according to whom?
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
gee, I know a few folks at LPD. I was not aware there was a "high attrition rate." I would imagine it's about the same as most police departments.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Given that, I guess we will be here awhile since there seems to be nothing to report from our end. I guess that makes it Smtty's turn again.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Oh, I get it! Smitty is stalling since she, like Felonhouse, can't answer the question.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Oops! Freudian slip--I meant Yellowhouse. Sorry.
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
I think I want to transfer out of the LPD Detective Division.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
MichaelJ,Have you ever had a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent anywhere besides here?
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
it's kind of like swatting a fly with a buick!
Guardian (anonymous) says…
LOL
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
I have family at LPD Smiity you full of something but its not correct information.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Somewhere, in the vast vortex of the nether regions, Smitty has disappeared. ldp did it again!
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
I wonder if those pesky LPD Detectives transferred Smitty out of here!
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
Yellow House ran off with Smitty!
newsreader (anonymous) says…
I'm curious who shops at The Yellow House to keep that trashy building opened?? It's quite an eyesore on Mass St if you were to ask me...
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
rolling eyes
geniusmannumber1 (anonymous) says…
Hey, here's a good question nobody's asked--why on earth would the LPD pick on Yellow House? I mean, what's the motive?Wait. I'm sorry. About eight people have asked that question. And the answer is....?
OnlyTheOne (anonymous) says…
"According to the plea agreement, "Paraphrased as "you say what I want and I'll go easy on you."
geniusmannumber1 (anonymous) says…
I don't think that's entirely true, multi. The Harwoods had their properties up for sale for the better part of two years. If the bank had seized them, like you claim, they would not have permitted them to keep operating.http://www2.ljworld.com/news/1993/apr/28/homeowners_unite_to_sell/http://www2.ljworld.com/news/1994/jan/05/target_plan_lures_other/I do vaguely remember some kerfluffle over the property, but I think that had something to do with the placement of the access road.How any of this applies to Yellow House's situation is beyond me. And what, exactly does the city (not the banks, not private developers, but the city) want the property for? And why haven't they gone after Mom and Pops?
been_there (anonymous) says…
Multi- really, I thought it was because they had no answer to my first post and needed a new conspiracy. Seriously, why would the LPD want a substation at 19th and Mass, it is a terrible location. Look at the one they have on Bob Billings. They would have to buy half a block at least including the ones behind YH. Have any of them been approached? Why would they want one so close to the one downtown. North Lawrence would make more sense.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Harwoods decided to move to another location. My husband worked there. The Harwood that is the son his wife had health issues. They got a better and cheaper deal moving into the Malls shopping center. Not chastising multi just saying this is the reason they moved then closed due to pa's death and his wifes health issues
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Im sorry I left out that they did lose the place but it was because of the health issues and death. Duh I cant believe I left that out. I did say that it was cheaper in the Malls but they really didnt last there long either but it was for reasons that had nothing to do with conspiracy or the city. Again my bad sorry. Brain fart
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Beobachter, FYI was_freashpowder is their son according to his post last night. I have seen Guy on that name too so its hard telling which one of them it is. They dont have a honest bone in their bodies.
OldEnuf2BYurDad (anonymous) says…
This is QUITE the thread! Wow.YH: You post like you are guilty. You keep posting, posting, posting as if this will be tried in the court of popular opinion. The louder you yell "innocent", the harder it is to believe.Cops bribing witnesses $50?"Conspiracy"?You are not John Gotti. You are not the head of the afl/cio. You run a 1,000 sq. ft. used "stuff" business. I mean... are the cops THAT bored that they have to pick on YOU? Why you? Why now? If this is about corruption, what's the "payoff"? Are they wanting the map to your buried treasure? I mean... even corruption has to make sense. A little sense. Can you toss us a bone: WHY YOU?
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Old. Man we have asked these questions for 2 days along with who are the officers and detectives that transferred over this.Instead of answering they come back with "heartbreaking" boo hoo conspiracy crap and wont answer the questions. Put the pipe down yh and answer the questions. I think that they have told the same lies over and over again that they are believing them as truth.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Dont forget Pudgy they also need to prepare a document on the subject send it to all govt officials and then post it on their blog site. LOL
dagger (anonymous) says…
well, I've seen their blog and it just verifies that they are way out there. They even go as far as to say they were charged with obstruction for insulating their house because the cops could no longer "scan" it. If you see or know some of the names they associated with mentioned on the blog you know they were up to no good. They deserve to be as stupid as they are.
smitty (anonymous) says…
circa 1993/94 memories? Carrie didn't beat it. The law was unequally applied to them and the county fair merchant. But then that's the difference between the sheriff's department and Olin's. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/1994/aug..., scum, try here kitty kitty kitty award winning JW moderater.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
I have to say this will be the last time I am posting on this blog. Not that I dont think they are guilty. They are soooo guilty. However on another blog I believe it was Multi that said to just not post anymore. Why give them the publicity and listen to thier half witted replies. Lets face it the only thing going on here is complaining (and with good reason) that they wont answer the questions. They arent going to answer the questions because they have no answers. Thre arent any LPD that has transferred and there isnt a conspiracy against them. They really just need to close shop and move cause if they arent loony then they been smokin way to much of that weed they produce.Anyway if I see some answers from them and sensible answers at that I may comment. Commenting now is just a waste of time and blog space.YH I hope you and your family members get professional help for the paranoia and such and move on. Hopefully somewhere besides Lawrence.
Katara (anonymous) says…
Marion blathers..."You people advocate for legalisation of pot while at the same time going afer YH for a personal stash.Ridiculous."______________________You are so silly. No one really cares about whether or not they smoke a little reefer now and then. It is the stupidity of keeping it around while under any form of investigation. I mean, how friggin' dumb do you have to be to do that? Especially if you are already under the delusion that there is a police conspiracy against you. I'd roll my eyes more at your stupidity, Marion, but I think I have already sprained the eye muscles from reading YH's constant blather.
been_there (anonymous) says…
You know, all this reminds me that some years back Yellow House raffled off a monkey at their fireworks stand one year. They advertised it in the paper to draw people to their stand. Some time later I went to Pet World, when they were in the old store, and was looking at the two monkeys that they kept on display for many years. Out of curiosity I asked if they sold very many of them. They said they very rarely sold them because too many people don't realize how much work they are and then they don't get taken care of or given away to bad homes. They mentioned on of the few that they did sell was to Carrie of Yellow House and they put her through an extensive screening process before they would sell it to her. I told them that she had advertised a monkey in a raffle at her fireworks stand. The guys looked at each other and you could tell they were not happy. One made the comment to the other "never again". She had evidently convinced them that she was prepared to make the commitment and would give it a good, lasting home. No telling what happened to the poor thing if she did indeed raffle it off to a complete stranger.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Well just checkin back and just as I thought yep yh still hasnt answered any questions and Marion is still being a pain in the hind quarters. check back with ya later for the same damn episode. Nite all.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Elmo
misseve (anonymous) says…
So, i went to the YH blog... All i can say is wow and not in an impressed way...its funny how "known criminals" are "out to get them" along with the LPD and other agencies that are in on the conspiracy. I NEVER did business with them and as i posted earlier, when i called about seeing if ANYONE tried to sell the things that were stolen from me, getting the long speel about how they are being lied on, i am glad that i never had . I do have a question however. Do they own Professional Moving and Delivery? I have seen that truck in the back lot of the YH a lot. Anyone know? Marion? Fresh? YH?
been_there (anonymous) says…
They did for a long time, not sure about now, thought I heard they had sold it, but not sure.
Jeremy (anonymous) says…
They're still selling on ebay!!http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZstandupguycharles
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Back on today and I see still no more answers from YH. I looked at the Ebay stuff and wow. I hope they have paperwork for all of that. If I saw a spot on Ebay like that with all sorts of different types of items I would not buy it. Looks too fishy. Im not only talking their stuff there are others on their too that seem a little questionable. Hopefully people will use common sense when using Ebay. I looked at the fridge out of curiosity and they guarentee for 30 days. Let me tell ya even having a item for 2 weeks YH doesnt do crap and if they do they charge and get in a crappy atittude about it. I ran into that problem about 10 or so years ago and them tearing up our yard and would not go back after that. They are a glorified garage sale that doesnt back up what they sell. Now that I know there are stolen items and idiots running the place Im glad I chose not to go back.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
for a quick laugh!http://news.larryville.com/index.php/forums
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
A quick laugh? that was a udder waste of time. geesh
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Silly Silly Marion
somebodynew (anonymous) says…
This thread has about as much to do with "cow boobs" as it does with common sense and intelligent posts by YH and their lame supporters.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
After a day out of town, I return to see that no one has answered the challenge to provide names. Makes one wonder just how much validity the rest of of their favorite rants hold.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Nor Smitty.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Yes she does.
misseve (anonymous) says…
been_there (Anonymous) says:They did for a long time, not sure about now, thought I heard they had sold it, but not sure.wonders if that was directed to my inquiry about Professional Moving and Delivery....
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
The LKPD is like a sports team. They are players with a coach. Each player is responsible for the other players, because in the end it is the team that matters. If a team member is making bad choices then its up to the coach or the other players to make sure something is done about it. If nobody steps up and makes sure the other players are doing what they should be doing then everybody on the team pays the price. In the end every officer on the "team" reflects the reputation of the entire department...Which reflects upon the entire City of Lawrence.So why would the Yellow House want to single out individuals with "names".If you care so much and know everything already.. go find out for yourself.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Our sources tell us there are no Felony cases going through the Douglas County Judicial system. Everything is on hold. Anybody know whats up with that?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Well, let's win one for the Gipper!
Guardian (anonymous) says…
We still want names. If you can't provide them, just say so and we'll go away. Stop dodging the issue. You would be more believable if you would just come out with the names. Otherwise, your posts are like passing gas in the wind. We notice, but there is no substance.
somebodynew (anonymous) says…
YH - If I were you (thank god I am not) I would get some different sources. I guess the guy charged and in trial right now for raping two women doesn't count as Felony Cases ?????
OldEnuf2BYurDad (anonymous) says…
YH: With each post you sound more and more "guilty" to me. Your posts are all about someone else. About the cops. About the courts. About the prosecutors.Let's all agree for the moment that the "system" is corrupt and busted... what does that have to do with your innocence? When Adam ate the forbidden fruit, his response to God was "The WOMAN that YOU gave me gave me the fruit to eat." He blamed God, and he blamed Eve, but he failed to mention HIS part in eating the fruit.You can deflect all day long, and you will not gain any supporters or gain any innocence. Send me an e-mail when you post something about your innocence so I can read it. Everything else you post is "off subject" and has the aroma of deception.Also, hasn't it occurred to you that the evil, lying, mustache-twirling prosecutors are reading and saving every one of your posts? Can you say "digging a deeper hole"?
Take_a_letter_Maria (anonymous) says…
Guardian (Anonymous) says: OK, so if I start a blog describing my personal contact with John Kennedy in the last three years and tell exactly how he faked his own death to fool Fidel Castro and the New Orleans Mafia, I must be telling the truth because it's on a blog, right?Guardian, the next time you communicate with JFK, tell him Elvis wants to move back in. He promises he'll be more tidy in the bathroom if JFK will let him back into the compound.
geniusmannumber1 (anonymous) says…
"Our sources tell us there are no Felony cases going through the Douglas County Judicial system. Everything is on hold.Anybody know whats up with that?"Umm...your sources may be liars, or mentally ill?
been_there (anonymous) says…
misseve-- sorry, yes it was
GSWtotheheart (anonymous) says…
YH lies and deflects the issues. They have lost credibility with me due to being caught in numerous lies. I also had a friend that worked for them and told stories. Not being a snitch, I would never go to the police. But I won't go to YH to buy or sell anything. Yes, they ask patrons if what they are selling is stolen, but when somebody has gone through all the trouble to steal something, they are not likely to mess up the whole deal by verbally/in writing admitting their items are stolen. Why? Because thieves are by their very nature dishonest...You don't have to be a genius to guess that 2 old guys bringing stuff in, in dribs and drabs over 2 years to the tune of over $100,000, might not be legitimate businessman. Knowing that YH is not a pawn shop and that they don't have to check their inventory against the police dept list-that would be enough to make a thief use YH to get rid of stolen goods. Especially knowing that they sell most of their stuff on Ebay. Then the items don't stay in the store long enough for locals to find their stolen items.Like I said, I will never go to YH to buy or sell. They have too many issues with honesty and quality, it seems, in many areas of their lives.I do think it's funny that they think the LPD wants their ghetto corner on 19th and Mass. If that's the truth, then why did the LPD allow the Plumbing business next to YH to sell their building and a new business to take over? Doesn't really fit in with the YH conspiracy comments from above in this thread that it's because the LPD needs the space for a sub-station. More lies and deflections. And not even any good ones!!!
Guardian (anonymous) says…
was_freashpwder-- "By the way the yellow house has yet to be charged in fencing and its been 3 1/2 years:::. I smell cover-up"I smell a much larger case against you coming. If it has been 3 1/2 years with no prosecution, then there is a good chance the feds are still gathering more evidence and they don't want to fry your backside until they have it all. At least, that's what JFK told me during out last meeting.Take_a_letter_Maria ----Jack said Elvis is welcome to come back.
greenworld (anonymous) says…
I dont think they have anything or case on Yellowhouse. If they did then why are they still open doing business. Wouldnt they have done closed then down by now. I know they tried yet they have never closed their doors up to this date. I guarantee you Yellowhouse has their back covered as they have camera's in their store. I think Yellowhouse is going to be around for awhile. The LPD have been known to commonly make mistakes and not be held accountable for their actions. I remember one year a off duty cop hit somebody drunk on Tenn or kentucky street and killed them I believe and the first arriving officer took the off duty officer home. Why wanst he treated like a regular person, I dont get it. Later he was put on leave and later terminated but I just dont get why he didnt go through the sobriety test and then taken downtown to be booked. I dont know if Yellowhouse is guilty or not but I wouldnt believe our police dept is 100% to word. just an observation of living in Lawrence my whole life.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Freash. Its hard to claim the plumber was fencing stolen goods? If they wanted the property bad enough they would have found something on them and the liquor store. Come on you can do better than that. Are you saying the pumber is doing something illegal. No, of course not. Because they are good people. Your lies and you being dumb is what got you in trouble. GSW stated that you were not required to check with the LPD on it the items were stolen or not because you are not a pawn shop. Wouldnt it be just common sense and decent to the victims to do it anyway. To me that is smart business sense to which I believe you lack entirely. Im starting to believe you could plead a mental case but I just believe you are dumber than a bag of hammers. Its probably all of that weed they took out of your house (you remember the stuff you lied and said you didnt do until they searched your house). Again DUMB if you knew you were being investigated than why still have that stuff around?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
greenworld-I don't know what world you're from. but the tale you tell didn't happen in Lawrence, Kansas. Not in the last 31 years anyway. And, studying your sentence structure, one can see siliarities between greenworld and was_freashpowder. Are we posting the same trash under a different name?
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
Boy I cannot believe how in the dark some of these bloggers are!The Lawrence police will not allow a second hand business to call down and get a list of stolen property. that is absolutely forbidden...I know because I have tried! (and so did play it again sports)The K.U. POlice however do work with the second hand stores, they give us lists of items stolen on campus like computers and bikes etc. For years they have came in at least once a month and let us know about cases they are working to see if we can help. They work hard to maintain a positive relationship with our store and we are on a first name basis with several officers and a detective. They have always been welcome anytime in our store and still are. It is very helpful to know what to look for and to be able to work with the police and the community to watch for stolen proplerty.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
As far as the Liquor store, our sources say that the LKPD did look into ways to set up the liquor store too, so they could possibly seize that building also. But they canned the plan when they found out the owner of the liquor store did not own the property.The plumbing shop was for sale, it was not being offered as a siezed property.The Government is looking at property to seize and obtain for free. They are not looking to buy! The Yellow House was targeted because they owned property that the Government wanted to seize for revenue and they looked like an easy target.. Second hand stores and businesses that don't have property to seize are not railroaded like the Yellow House has been.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
This just keeps getting better and better. OK, we'll try a new tactic. Who are the KU police officers and the detective who come into your store. Just their first names wil do.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
The only names of Police officers that are relevant to be made public are the ones that signed the search warrant, are involved in the corrupt Yellow House case and execution of the multiple questionable search warrants, seizures of property, misplaced and undocumented evidence. Illegally seized private gun collection stored in a locked safe unloaded and seized without a search warrant for the safe. Guns the police did not properly document or photograph. Jay BialekSgt. Tarik KhatibTina ShaumboughTony GarciaAdam HeffleyScott SliferDavid AxmanTroy SquireJustin StipanovichJohn HansonRob JacksonDavid NitzMichael RamseyDean OhmanSean BrownS. BonhamJuan NgunyenJay RozellLance flacshbarthS. VerbanicM. McNameeRich Britain
misseve (anonymous) says…
OMG ha ha ha are you serious? Really?I think you need my anxiety meds more than I do....
been_there (anonymous) says…
Hey, was there an 44 Automag in that private collection?
been_there (anonymous) says…
Ludwig stole it from us, I wonder if it ended up in YH's hands.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
been_thereThat cannot be true that Ludwig stole that from you, because the YH never bought any guns from Ludwig and according to the indictment he never sold anything to anybody except the YH!!!! And of course you believe everything the Government says .....right?
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
OMGLudwig stole my $100,000. charging the business 50%-80% of the retail value because he had to make something over his purchase price! If we had known the stuff was stolen We should have been getting that stuff for 10 cents on the dollar! I dont need anxiety meds I need my money back! :((
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
YH Been there was stating that Ludwig stole from him and was asking you if you bought guns from him. If you didnt fine but dont state that been _there was lying. doesnt mean he even sold it to anyone else just means he stole it. Ohh booo hooooo you want your money back for items you knew were stolen no matter what you say. ya cant buy over 100,000 in merchandise and not question or wonder where it came from. Especially from these two.You would have made more money had you not got caught and continued to sell the stolen items. You are just boo hooing because you got caught and are trying to place the blame elsewhere.You still seems to avoid the question on who transferred. Typical of one who has no proof because you know that if you posted names you would be sued do to the fact there arent any that transferred out due to this case. None of the officers would transfer out and up heave their jobs for your measly (sp?) lil ass.
yellowhouse (anonymous) says…
How do you know who is lying ? Are a psychic that knows what others know or are thinking? Perhaps you are a bug on the wall that witnessed what was going on? I did not see any serial numbers on his post about the gun.It seems to me, If someone really had a gun stolen one would think they would post the serial number so people could be looking out for it.But what do I know...
been_there (anonymous) says…
Wouldn't that be like putting my SS# out there for people to use? I mean if I gave the serial number out for everyone to have and it turned up, then couldn't anyone with the number claim it? I think the police can use the serial number on the police report. Besides it is a rarely seen since so few were made and people would be able to identify it that way. I mean how many of you guys have seen a 44 Auto Mag?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
I've seen a .44 Auto Mag, and it wasn't stolen. It wasn't even at Felonhouse!
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
I haven't seen a .44 automag, but I once saw a KU Band Uniform. And it WAS in "felonhouse!"
Guardian (anonymous) says…
A KU Band Uniform? How could anyone not know that was stolen???!!! Those are never sold to anyone after KU buys them! Dam that's dum!
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Nope. But I've been told KU is supposed to destroy them when they are done with them. If that's the case, it's possible you inadvertently purchased misappropriated items.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Well, was, just have your high-powered attorney get a copy of the report. I'm not sure why you would need it though. You already know all of the facts--the real ones that is--not the ones you fabricate.
been_there (anonymous) says…
how about the name of the pawnshop?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Sorry was. Not going away. I just watched your youtube video. As I said earlier, the feds are just getting everything together due to the massive investigation going on. Your own video says that. I also find it interesting that the words being said on the last clip don't appear to be matching what the reporter is saying. That's just my observation. Bottom line, wear something nice for Bubba.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
To let you all know what YH stated in the last public forum about the uniform. They state they were nice enough to let KU buy back the uniform from him.What I was saying earlier about Been There is that Ludwig stole a gun from him and he was asking you and politely it seems if you had any guns brought in to your shop from Ludwig so he could try to find out if one was his. I do not need to be there or be a "bug" on the wall to read what he was asking.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Yeah they could have been good samaritans and just returned it. Guy may have not stolen it but it was stolen property that he was trying to get money for.You would think being an ex KU football player he would have done the right thing and just returned it knowing they cost the college alot.Hes got to get his piece too evidently. He knew it was stolen.
BlackVelvet (anonymous) says…
Muti wrote: ".....I thought on the article about the uniform, they wanted KU to reimburse them the (maybe $40) that they paid for it.KU refused and LPD took it."Wrong! I know the KU Cop who spotted the uniform hanging in the shop and he's the one who seized it.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Wrong Michael J. The KU cop did seize it but this is only after YH called KU and decided to try to extort money from them. KU called the cops. Your "friend" must have seen it before the other authorities got to him. There are old KU Band uniforms that are out there that are sold as costumes and such so not all of them are illegally sold. In this case YH decided if they couldnt get the money out of KU they were going to try to sell it in their store.YH did admit to trying to get money out of KU for as he called it somthing like appreciation of returning it.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
also although im not saying this is the case but something to think about.Your friend who is a cop could have been saying this to make himself sound big.I have family in LPD and there were some things not handled right with this investigation. however, what was not handled right has nothing to do with the fact they are liars and thieves and then pimping the items. To me selling the stuff knowing it was stolen is the same as actually stealing it. The last sentence strictly a personal opinion.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
Its called common sense. If someone brings you that amount of items or things that common sense tells you they could not afford then you do not buy it.If someone brings you stuff From KU then you contact KU and ask them about it and try to get the item back to them at no charge.
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Just when you thought the rants couldn't get any funnier!
somebodynew (anonymous) says…
Yo Freash (sp?)- I'm a-thinking that just the drug charges will get you (or daddy//Carrie - whoever is using this name) some time. And something tells me that while the Feds may be REALLY slow, they are not going away and now they have some of your contacts ready to testify against you. See ya in several years.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
The Freash prince saysyou are obviously, 1. White 2. rich 3. Live a sheltered life 4. Never had to sell any of your possessions get money to pay a bill or bills.Well ya got the white part right but are way off on the others. Only time will tell if you are right about your parents. federal charges still exist. The lies will come out and I hope you go to the hearing dates and take notes. You are their kid and really dont know All the ins and outs of their business im sure. So you are talking out of the mouth of a babe. Just dont preach to me what I am and what I have or havent sold etc. At least I earn my money honestly and legally.
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
You know whats also funny is the fact that daddy had to send his lil boy to do his defense work. No wonder he's going to jail.
blahblahblah (anonymous) says…
Guardian, couldn't agree more. This discussion is still ongoing? I've been looking at this and laughing for a few days now. Will it never end?
Guardian (anonymous) says…
Not until all the appeals have been denied.
somebodynew (anonymous) says…
Well, seeing as they fire ALL the attorneys they hire, I guess the kid is the best chance they got. LOL
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
good point somebodynew
Buggie7 (anonymous) says…
well you can not prove us wrong. the federal charges being dropped or found not guilty that will. Even then though Jr I have to tell you alot of people in Lawrence are going to look at it as they slipped under the wire and got off because the govt is restricted on what it can do. There are lots of smiling criminals and I know a few in Lawrence who are found not guilty and smirk everytime they see an officer because they know they are guilty and just got away with it. I really dont think thats going to happen in this case.
been_there (anonymous) says…
"This discussion is still ongoing? I've been looking at this and laughing for a few days now. Will it never end?"Remember the words in the kid's song on the show with Sherry Lewis and Lambchop that went "This is the song that never ends. It just goes on and on and on". Could be modified very nicely to fit this forum.
fu7il3 (anonymous) says…
It's sort of like a race car wreck. People just want to see it go faster and faster so that when it crashes it will be all that more spectacular.
hail2oldku (anonymous) says…
This probably would have died down the day after the article, but fresh and yh keep posting their conspiracy theories to keep it alive.Of course JFK and Elvis wandering in and out of the thread don't help any. ;-)
Guardian (anonymous) says…
That's OK. I got the real story from President Jack who got it straight from J. Edgar himself.
been_there (anonymous) says…
No, but since you brought the subject up (kind of) just got off the Lawrence sexual predetors list, lots of new photos, everyone should check it out. Got on there after someone told me a former parent at our school was on there, unfortunately he was. It is a sad, sad, world when children cannot go home and be safe, when home is where the bad person is.
KcSlumper (anonymous) says…
hummm what's this all about?Western Courier Message BoardForum List » General Discussion » Gun missing from evidence room recovered in Pawn Shop Gun missing from evidence room recovered in Pawn Shop Anonymous9/18/07 11:55 PM CST Dave Bryant was in the hospital following a motorcycle accident. April 10th 2006. He was released from the hospital April 25th and discovered he had been burglarized. A Report was made with Sheriff Deputy Ken McGovern. Regarding 11 stolen guns One stun gun, One Tazer Gun, 2 Laptop computers, Sony Viao computer, Gateway Computer, 20 chainsaws valued at $17,000, 3 600 ft. rolls of climbing rope estimated value is $600 role, $6,000. Mig welder in crate, Little Rascal Scooter. $15,000. in tools. For a total of over $60,000. worth of belongings. 5 Guns were later recovered during a drug bust about July 2006. Shawn Young and Rick Elston were arrested. 5 guns out of the 11 stolen were recovered at that time. The guns were held as evidence pending the trial. Guns were released the 1st part of August. Brian the evidence custodian at Lawrence Police Dept. Called David Bryant to come down and get his guns that were no longer needed as evidence. When he arrived at the Lawrence Kansas Police Department none of the guns could be located. Dave had an attorney by the name of Andrew Pickelcavich call the police dept. and inquires as to the whereabouts of the firearms. He was told the model 4046 had two cases on it; this information was false because David Bryant was the original owner of the gun with the paperwork. From then on they just told David Bryant that the guns could not be located. David Bryant unhappy about the fact the LPD could not find his guns, decided to go down to LPD everyday to inquire about the whereabouts of his guns. After almost 2 months, he was told by officer Hagenbush that he was not to return to the Police Department to inquire about his missing guns from the evidence room again. He was also told if he returned to the Lawrence Police Station that he would be arrested for harassment. On Sept. 17, 2007 David Bryant located his Glock model 22 .40 caliber gun at the 23rd street Pawn in Lawrence Kansas. He was informed by the pawn shop owner that it had been previously pawned, and the person that pawned the gun had failed to make the payments and the gun was now available for purchase priced at $615. The gun included David's 2 high capacity clips that he had purchased separately for $75. Each. He then entered the Yellow House store in Lawrence Kansas, knowing they also have items missing from the evidence room including 3 Laptop computers and four guns, and are being targeted by a corrupt investigation by the Lawrence Police Department. Carrie Neighbors then contacted FBI Agent Scott at the Topeka FBI center. He and his partner went to the 23rd street Pawn Shop and took the weapon. Post a reply to this message
smitty (anonymous) says…
JW, YH was touted to be the largest fencing operation in the history of the LPD(Lawrence) per the LPD, anyway..Guy and Carrie Neighbors are still involved in their defense of this charge.Why have you dropped the coverage of their case for months now?Why is it not reported that the Neighbors are in federal court today?Why are you not reporting the local news? Especially since it is rumored and somewhat verified that Ron Olin is under investigation or indictment by the feds for his part in the YH case? Per Amyx's statement a couple of weeks ago the city commission has verified that Olin's problems are being handled through the city manager's office as a "personnel issue". Just last week the city commission went into closed session to negotiate a personnel situation(hmmm wonder who that could be about?).I am reminding you of the daily published: "What the Journal World stands for"*Accurate and fair news reporting....*Exposure of any dishonesty in public affairs...What are you waiting on?
fu7il3 (anonymous) says…
Maybe they know you are as full of it as Yellow House is and if there were verified reports of Olin under investigation, they would be flashing at the top of the page in breaking news.Maybe they are worried about that whole accuracy thing when it comes to anything involving Yellow House. Besides, what has there been to report on besides rumors that are seem to originate on Yellow House blogs?
smitty (anonymous) says…
Maybe, maybe not. Did you miss the part where I asked Amyx to see if the rumor was real or bogus? Have you called your favorite commissioner to ask, as I did of Amyx? Rumors are good for a start but nothing like following up with those who have the exposure and authority to be in the know. Well, that is, if you can get an answer. But then don't let the facts or any attempt to verify the facts get in your way of your personal slams and ignorance. You may not be ignorant but simply offering a personal attacks and straw arguments shows an intent with some fore thought and malice. I don't know if the YH is innocent or guilty but I do wish the truth to come forward.
was_freashpowder2 (Alexander Neighbors) says…
Here we go now these guys are actually facing their prison sentence.
gl0ck0wn3r (anonymous) says…
Guy喜欢热狗的监狱。