Archive for Tuesday, September 11, 2007

Two construction workers killed in hit-and-run on U.S. 59; two women taken into custody

September 11, 2007, 10:03 a.m. Updated September 11, 2007, 9:18 p.m.

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Area emergency personnel work the scene of a hit-and-run accident where two construction workers on U.S. Highway 59 were killed Sept. 11 between North 800 and 900 roads at Pleasant Grove. Construction crews had been repaving the road.

Area emergency personnel work the scene of a hit-and-run accident where two construction workers on U.S. Highway 59 were killed Sept. 11 between North 800 and 900 roads at Pleasant Grove. Construction crews had been repaving the road.

Highway 59 accident

Footage of emergency crews responding to the scene of the fatal accident on Highway 59. Enlarge video

Statement about fatal accident

Lt. Kari Wempe, Douglas County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman, gives the official statement about the accident on U.S. Highway 59. Enlarge video

Two construction workers were killed in an accident Tuesday morning, south of Lawrence

Two construction workers in a work zone along U.S. Highway 59 were killed this morning in a hit-and-run accident.

Two women were taken into custody, after a 10-mile chase into Osage County, along U.S. Highway 56 that ended when law enforcement used "stop sticks" to puncture two tires of their half-ton pickup truck. Sabrina J. Morgan, 26, and Ramona I. Morgan, 48, both of Chewelah, Wash., were taken to the Osage County Jail. Authorities named Ramona Morgan as the driver.

U.S. 59 was still closed as of 4:30 p.m. while investigation of the accident continued. KDOT has suspended repaving work on the road until next week. Both lanes of traffic should be open Wednesday morning.

One of victims was a KDOT employee, the other was a contract employee.

The KDOT employee killed was Tyrone T. Korte, 30, of Seneca. Korte was an Engineering Technician and had worked at KDOT since November 2002. The second, a contract employee, was Rolland Griffith, a 24-year-old from El Dorado.

Jean Thompson, safety director at Dustrol Inc., Towanda, confirmed Griffith was one of their employees. He had worked with the company for less than a year.

Dustrol, according to their web site, does a variety of road surfacing work. A crew of 14 is working on the U.S. 59 project. It is the first time the company has lost an employee on such a project, Thompson said.

"We're continuing to get further information from the scene," said Douglas County Sheriff's Lt. Kari Wempe. "We request anyone who was in the area at the time to give our office or the Highway Patrol a call if they observed anything and can help us with our investigation."

Timeline

The emergency call came in just before 10 a.m. Emergency crews responded to the scene, between North 800 and 900 roads at Pleasant Grove, where construction crews had been repaving the road.

"They both were wearing safety vests," Wempe said.

Kansas Highway Patrol spokesman Lt. John Eichkorn said that at 10:12 this morning, a patrol trooper responding to the scene spotted the vehicle wanted in connection with the accident heading west on U.S. 56, west of Overbrook. The trooper attempted to stop the vehicle, Eichkorn said, but a pursuit began that included troopers and Osage County law enforcement. About 10 minutes later, south of Scranton the vehicle drove over stop sticks deployed by officers, flattening two tires. The truck stopped at two miles later, where the two female occupants were taken into custody.

Two KDOT workers were killed in construction zone accidents in 2005. They were the first KDOT employees killed since November 1997.

Wempe said the accident investigation would hamper traffic along U.S. 59 the rest of the day.

"I would imagine we are going to be out there most of the day," she said. "We have accident reconstructionists that have been called to the scene from our office and that are diagramming the scene."

The accident, she added, serves as a reminder to drivers to exercise caution in construction zones.

"I'd just encourage drivers to be very alert going through construction sites," Wempe said. "Be aware that they do have lots of movement among individuals doing their jobs. Be very cautious. "

More details as they develop.

For the latest on this story, tune into 6News at 6 and 10.

Comments

FSG_Castleman 7 years, 9 months ago

My hubby was one of the workers that was killed this morning (Rolland Griffith) I am using his cousins screen name to say that if you saw any thing that can help please report it we would great fully be appreciated and thank you for all of the support and prayers from all of those out there......................................also retta thank you for contacting them and then letting us know via email too its greatly appreciated

bmelm 7 years, 9 months ago

That is where the south end of the 59 repaving project/shuttle car was this morning. Wonder if it has something to do with that.

doc1 7 years, 9 months ago

So was there a car chase involved? Why would they need stop sticks??

Linda Aikins 7 years, 9 months ago

What are stop sticks?

This is awful. Don't forget two people died.

Linda Aikins 7 years, 9 months ago

Thanks scene. Sounds like that would do it.

Alison Roberts 7 years, 9 months ago

Soapdish... sorry to say.. they are not doing "okay" the headline reads "two killed"

its so sad... They are just out doing their job and careless drivers took their lives. And then just took off.. ?! thats tragic.

hipper_than_hip 7 years, 9 months ago

I saw a sign on a Missouri highway regarding the fine for striking a highway worker, and I think it was something like $10,000; maybe Kansas should follow suit.

waydownsouth 7 years, 9 months ago

Something else must be up because why would they run. Must have warrents or had drugs on them.

BlackVelvet 7 years, 9 months ago

vzvs0920.....when the story first came out, it read "two reportedly injured...." and was later updated to "two killed".

Ragingbear 7 years, 9 months ago

I bet cell phones were involved as well.

Terry Jacobsen 7 years, 9 months ago

My thoughts and prayers for the families. How tragic.

Retta H-b 7 years, 9 months ago

This morning I was heading to Baldwin Junction Veterinarian with a very unhappy cat.

I was right behing the truck that rushed the traffic controller. The Highway worker with the stop sign waved frantically to try get the truck to stop. She ran right through the sign she was holding breaking it in half. The truck countiued speeding on south of 59. Apparently hitting the workers further on.

I asked the guard if if she was OK? She was very shaken and said the same truck had rushed through earlier going the other direction. Shortly after another van rushed through almost like they were chasing the truck. Then the Ambulances and helicopters started coming. Eventually they let me turn around and find another way to Baldwin.

Crazy way to start the day.

craigers 7 years, 9 months ago

Fine them and throw them in jail for vehicular manslaughter.

Sean Livingstone 7 years, 9 months ago

It's very important, everyone listen out! If you hit and run, you will go to jail for very serious crime. If you hit but stopped and stayed on the scene, it shows that you're repenting and your sentence will be easier. I wonder why people are still so stupid!

CindiCat 7 years, 9 months ago

How awful. My sympathy to the families.

As for the "Thelma & Louise" wanna be's who pulled this stupid stunt. Put your head between your legs and kiss your rear ends goodbye.

Soapdish 7 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for the backup Michael J.

Yowza. This went from bad to way worse. Thoughts to the families...

LawmomX3 7 years, 9 months ago

This is just heart breaking, my prayers are with the workers families. These two women could not come up with a reason to excuse this action. They should be tried for murder!

snazzo 7 years, 9 months ago

that is bizarre, and absolutely terrible. I wonder who the 2 workers were. I always worry about those things when I know someone in that line of duty.

hk45 7 years, 9 months ago

Retta, please contact the Sheriff's Office with your information, it may be important.

wordsofwisdom 7 years, 9 months ago

Retta, If you were a witness you should notify law enforcement....not the blog readers.

barelygettingby 7 years, 9 months ago

retta - if you have not already - you should definitely give your witness account to the deputies investigating the accident

Tom McCune 7 years, 9 months ago

Based on Retta's post, this is worse than vehicular manslaughter. Second degree murder.

MidnightBlue 7 years, 9 months ago

I wonder if the police were notified the first time the truck rushed the traffic controller going in the other direction.

FSG_Castleman 7 years, 9 months ago

RETTA.............. MY FAMILY WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE KILLED IN THIS ACCIDENT........... OUR FAMILY WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE IF YOU WOULD CONTACT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IS WORKING THIS ACCIDENT SCENE AND HORRIBLE CRIME............... AND TO ALL OF THOSE THAT READ THIS REMEMBER TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OTHER PEOPLES LIVES WHEN YOU ARE BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A POTENTIALLY DEADLY WEAPON SUCH AS A VEHICLE........... THANK YOU TO ALL FOR KEEPING OUR FAMILY IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND THE FAMILY OF THE OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT WAS A TRAGIC VICTIM OF THIS DELINQUENT NEGLIGENCE...................

FSG_Castleman 7 years, 9 months ago

Douglas County Sheriff's Lt. Kari Wempe. "We request anyone who was in the area at the time to give our office or the Highway Patrol a call if they observed anything and can help us with our investigation."...........................THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM LT. KARI WEMPE.................. IF ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF MY FAMILY AND THE FAMILY OF THE KDOT WORKER CONTACT THEM PLEASE IT COULD BE VITAL IN THE INVESTIGATION AND PROSECUTION OF THIS CASE...

b_asinbeer 7 years, 9 months ago

Horrible tragedy. I hope everyone involved can gather enough strength and energy to get through this (however long it may take).

chemegirlie 7 years, 9 months ago

I may be mistaken, but I think in Missouri you also loose your licence permanently if you hit and kill a road worker. Kansas needs that also. My heart goes out to the families and friends of these workers.

wordsofwisdom 7 years, 9 months ago

So what have you, Retta? Are you still out there. Many of us are still wondering if you contacted Law Enforcement. Please respond and let us know.

allateup 7 years, 9 months ago

My heart breaks for these two families....peace be with you.

Alison Roberts 7 years, 9 months ago

My apologies, I just read the headline that was on the top of my page, wasnt trying to be snotty.

Thats so sad :( I cant believe they would just hit 2 people and drive off.

I do believe there are steep fines for hitting construction workers in Kansas as well. Vehicular Manslaughter, right? Is that what they will be charged with?

Kevin Millikan 7 years, 9 months ago

I'm from Lawrence, but living in the Seattle area now. If you saw how these drivers in Washington drove, you would understand. We take our life into our hands every time we drive to and from work here.

RIP

justthefacts 7 years, 9 months ago

Sabrina age 27 and Ramona age 48. Mother daughter? There is no possible excuse for not stopping after you hit something, let alone someone, let alone two someones. No matter what their excuse (and they will have one) these two women should be put away in a jail to rot for a long long time. An accident is one thing. But when they ignored the stop sign (breaking it off) they no longer were having an accident. They stepped over into deliberately ignoring the law.

Prayers and heartfelt thoughts go out to the two sets of family and friends (and co-workers) impacted by this horrible tragedy. I am glad they caught the miscreants. I'm not a vengeful person, but one has to wonder if things would not have worked out pretty fairly if their truck had simply plowed over a cliff (in Kansas? - no way!) or into a tree as they ran from the scene of their crime.

mom_of_three 7 years, 9 months ago

How awful!

My sympathies to the families.

FSG_Castleman 7 years, 9 months ago

WE MUST ALSO KEEP IN MIND THE DEVASTATION THAT MUST BE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER WORKERS AND WITNESSES OF THIS TRAGEDY OF THIS HORRIBLE MISHAP AND NEGLAGENCE

saintzfam 7 years, 9 months ago

This is terrible. I am sure those girls have a very dumb reason for doing this and running like they did. There is no good reason for those kind of actions and I am glad they are in custody.

My prayers go out to the workers families. Sorry for your loss FSG_Castleman. God bless.

justthefacts 7 years, 9 months ago

Facts on these women's home town: Chewelah (pronounced Chuh-WEE-luh) is a city in Stevens County, Washington, United States. As of the census of 2000, there were 2,186 people, 911 households, and 562 families residing in the city. he median income for a household in the city was $25,238, and the median income for a family was $33,750. Males had a median income of $36,065 versus $18,938 for females. The per capita income for the city was $13,843. About 13.9% of families and 18.3% of the population were below the poverty line, including 19.9% of those under age 18 and 15.7% of those age 65 or over. See http://www.chewelah.org/

justthefacts 7 years, 9 months ago

Girls? Age 26 maybe, but by 48 (1959) does she qualify as a girl still?

Sabrina J. Morgan, 26, and Ramona I. Morgan, 48, both of Chewelah, Wash., were taken to the Osage County Jail. Authorities named Ramona Morgan as the driver.

Kontum1972 7 years, 9 months ago

"just thefacts" ........so what's the point of your census update..these two came down here to adjust our population because the town they live in they know everybody and figured they didn want to hurt anyone..some roadtrip

I was almost was head-on by some goofball just outside tongie by some chick on here cellphone she decided than she needed my side of the road too..she gave me the finger...as i swerved out of her way...

the overall out look most people behind the wheel do not give a damn about anyone else who is on the road....if your in the road your the target...and are always wrong..

ralphralph 7 years, 9 months ago

I hate US 59. Thank God they are finally working to update it. I know, the highway didn't cause these 2 gals to wack out, but I drive 59 a lot, and have many special people in Lawrence who drive it even more, including a few who have been smashed up on that stretch, and it scares me every time I think about it. So sorry for these workers and their families. Prayers go out for each of you. p.s., to the lady that saw the truck blast through there, please-please-please contact the KHP.

doc1 7 years, 9 months ago

justthefacts. A town of 2,186 people. They were definately on meth.

ebyrdstarr 7 years, 9 months ago

I find it interesting that most comments seem to assert that both women are equally culpable here even though obviously only one of them was driving. How is the passenger in a speeding car criminally responsible for the actions of the driver? Other than urging the driver to slow down, there is very little a passenger can do in that situation.

Unquestionably, the driver should be held accountable for her actions. We know what the driver did. But why is everyone so quick to judge the passenger as well? What did the passenger do or fail to do, other than be associated with the driver?

FSG - I'm very sorry for your family's loss.

FSG_Castleman 7 years, 9 months ago

ebyrdstarr- I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS TOO.............. BUT HOWEVER WITH IT BEING STATED THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY MADE A DRIVE THROUGH THE SAME CONSTRUCTION SITE NOT POSITIVELY THERE COULD BE THE SLIGHT POSSIBILITY OF THE PASSENGER AT THE TIME OF THE ARREST BEING THE DRIVER THE FIRST TIME BUT IT ALSO COULD HAVE BEEN THAT THE DRIVER WAS THE SAME BOTH TIMES................. AND THE PASSENGER REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER WHAT DECISIONS THE DRIVER OF A VEHICLE MAKES........................ EVERYONE JUST NEEDS TO READ THIS ARTICLE AND OTHERS AND REALIZE THAT A VEHICLE IS ONE OF THE MOST POTENTIALLY DEADLY WEAPONS THAT I PERSON CAN POSSES AND THAT THEY NEED TO USE IT TO COMMUTE SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY NOT TO DRIVE LIKE A PHONE BOOTH, READ YOUR BOOK ON THE HIGHWAY, PAINT YOUR NAILS, DO YOUR MAKEUP............. OR ANYTHING ELSE IF YOU ARE RUNNING LATE FOR SOMETHING OR FOR WORK CALL THEM FOR GOD SAKES PEOPLE AREN'T PERFECT WE ALL MESS UP BUT MAKE THE ROAD WAYS A SAFER PLACE SO NO OTHER FAMILY'S HAVE TO HAVE THIS SAME THING HAPPEN TO THEM BEFORE PEOPLE PULL THEIR HEADS OUT THEIR REAR ENDS AND COME TO REALITY ON THE WHOLE MOTOR VEHICLE CONCEPT!!!!- AND TO EVERYONE OUT THERE STILL THANK YOU YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE APPRECIATED-

ebyrdstarr 7 years, 9 months ago

I think, though, that the passenger was likely taken to the jail for practical reasons. A) she's obviously a witness. B) The car was undoubtedly seized for evidence collection so she had no ability to leave the scene herself without an escort from police. The article does not say that both were arrested. I just found it interesting that so many posts started with a presumption that the two were acting in concert when I had the opposite presumption that the passenger was just caught in a bad situation.

justthefacts 7 years, 9 months ago

Granted a passenger cannot control the driver - so she may get off with a lighter sentence (if the care was not chock full of illegal drugs - in which case she's in more trouble.... felony murder comes to mind). But if it's a homicide, take a look at Kansas laws on that crime:

21-3405. Vehicular homicide. Vehicular homicide is the unintentional killing of a human being committed by the operation of an automobile, airplane, motor boat or other motor vehicle in a manner which creates an unreasonable risk of injury to the person or property of another and which constitutes a material deviation from the standard of care which a reasonable person would observe under the same circumstances. Vehicular homicide is a class A person misdemeanor.

21-3402. Murder in the second degree. Murder in the second degree is the killing of a human being committed: (a) Intentionally; or (b) unintentionally but recklessly under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life. Murder in the second degree as described in subsection (a) is a severity level 1, person felony. Murder in the second degree as described in subsection (b) is a severity level 2, person felony.

21-3401. Murder in the first degree. Murder in the first degree is the killing of a human being committed: (a) Intentionally and with premeditation; or (b) in the commission of, attempt to commit, or flight from an inherently dangerous felony as defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and amendments thereto. Murder in the first degree is an off-grid person felony.

Census info was just to show that the town they're claiming as home is a VERY small place - and not close to Kansas. So what are two people from there, with the same last name, doing driving up and down on this Kansas road, going very fast? It's odd to hear of females involved in something like this, but not so much lately. There's a story here that will probably come out eventually.

Just for giggles, try a google search using "Sabrina Morgan" - and be warned - a young woman of the right age and name apparently likes to walk on the wild side of life.

rocknrow2 7 years, 9 months ago

The point is! What was the women driving the truck thinking???

My heart goes out to all the victims! What a tragedy!!!

DrBeans 7 years, 9 months ago

Pywacket suggests (without any real cause) that the second passenger was "arrested" for some sort of drug possession or resisting arrest-type charge. It is very early in this story to be making such assumptions. Also, the story referenced here never says that either woman was arrested. It repeatedly says both were "taken into custody". While a person can logically assume the driver was actually arrested, depending on the certainty of her involvement, it's possible the passenger was not.

bmelm 7 years, 9 months ago

ebyrdstar, I think the passenger as a witness to the crime would be able to help stop the vehicle (take the keys out of the ignition) if she was not wanting to be an accomplice. But all the facts are not out yet as well like has been said.

fdalpd 7 years, 9 months ago

ebyrdstarr: For arguments sake, hypothetically, setting up a scenario (if there is any other disclaimer I could have used, it is implied), if they were both involved in a specific type of felony when the accident occurred, it does not matter at all who was driving. Both can be held accountable for 1st degree murder under the felony murder doctrine. Analogous to two people robbing a liquor store and one robber shooting (accidentally or intently) the clerk, both could be convicted of 1st degree murder under the felony murder doctrine.

Again, I know nothing of this case other than what I've read above, and you all know what when people assume.

Anyhow, my condolences to the families affected.

fdalpd 7 years, 9 months ago

While I was in the process of writing my post JUSTTHEFACTS provided the specific statute.

. . .

21-3401. Murder in the first degree. Murder in the first degree is the killing of a human being committed: (a) Intentionally and with premeditation; or (b) IN THE COMMISSION OF, ATTEMPT TO COMMIT, OR FLIGHT FROM AN INHERENTLY DANGEROUS FELONY as defined in K.S.A. 21-3436 and amendments thereto. Murder in the first degree is an off-grid person felony.

justthefacts 7 years, 9 months ago

All from www.kslegislature.org To see the WHOLE statute go there. Meanwhile, Take a look at subsection (a)(18). Bingo.

21-3436. Inherently dangerous felony; definition. (a) Any of the following felonies shall be deemed an inherently dangerous felony whether or not such felony is so distinct from the homicide alleged to be a violation of subsection (b) of K.S.A. 21-3401, and amendments thereto, as not to be an ingredient of the homicide alleged to be a violation of subsection (b) of K.S.A. 21-3401, and amendments thereto:

  (1)   Kidnapping, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3420, and amendments thereto;

  (2)   aggravated kidnapping, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3421, and amendments thereto;

  (3)   robbery, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3426, and amendments thereto;

  (4)   aggravated robbery, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3427, and amendments thereto;

  (5)   rape, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3502, and amendments thereto;

  (6)   aggravated criminal sodomy, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3506, and amendments thereto;

  (7)   abuse of a child, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3609, and amendments thereto;

  (8)   felony theft under subsection (a) or (c) of K.S.A. 21-3701, and amendments thereto;

  (9)   burglary, as defined in K.S.A 21-3715, and amendments thereto;

  (10)   aggravated burglary, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3716, and amendments thereto;

  (11)   arson, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3718, and amendments thereto;

  (12)   aggravated arson, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3719, and amendments thereto;

  (13)   treason, as defined in K.S.A. 21-3801, and amendments thereto;

  (14)   any felony offense as provided in K.S.A. 65-4127a, 65-4127b or 65-4159 or 65-4160 through 65-4164, and amendments thereto;

  (15)   any felony offense as provided in K.S.A. 21-4219, and amendments thereto;

  (16)   endangering the food supply as defined in K.S.A. 2006 Supp. 21-4221, and amendments thereto;

  (17)   aggravated endangering the food supply as defined in K.S.A. 2006 Supp. 21-4222, and amendments thereto;

  (18)   fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer, as defined in subsection (b) of K.S.A. 8-1568, and amendments thereto; or

  (19)   aggravated endangering a child, as defined in subsection (a)(1) of K.S.A. 2006 Supp. 21-3608a, and amendments thereto.

ebyrdstarr 7 years, 9 months ago

bmelm: for a passenger to take the keys out of the car or take some other physical action to stop the car could actually cause far greater harm than good. A car spinning out of control would not be desirable. Furthermore, the law does not require the passenger to take any kind of affirmative step to avoid being an accomplice. Rather, she would have had to take some affirmative step to become an accomplice beyond merely being present in the car.

I am very aware of scenarios involving felony murder (and every other level of murder and manslaughter). Yes, of course it is possible that the two were fleeing the commission of an inherently dangerous felony when the workers were struck and killed in which case felony murder would be a charge. If the driver was just speeding and driving like a jerk, felony murder would not apply and it would be very, very hard to convict a passenger of vehicular manslaughter or second degree murder.

But based on what little we know now, most commenters here were automatically lumping the two women together and speaking about them as if they were one for purposes of criminal culpability and liability. I just wanted to make people think a little more carefully about whether it is really fair to treat the driver and the passenger as if they both did exactly the same thing.

FSG_Castleman 7 years, 9 months ago

RIGHT AND IT HAS ALSO BEEN RELEASED THAT IT COULD OF BEEN A FORM OF ROAD RAGE TAKEN BY THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE IN WHICH WAS MAD AND INFURIATED DURING ALL OF THIS..........................................THE PASSENGER OF A VEHICLE HOWEVER WOULD HAVE TROUBLE SAFELY DEFUSING A SITUATION WITHOUT CAUSING GREATER HARM IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER IF THE PASSENGER WAS JUST IN THE VEHICLE SHE HOW EVER CAN NOT BE EXPECTED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANOTHER PERSONS PERSONAL ACTIONS OR DECISIONS SHE VERY WELL COULD HAVE BEEN WRONG PLACE WRONG TIME OR HAD SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS CAUSING HER TO BE DETAINED ASIDE FROM BEING A FIRST HAND PERSONAL WITNESS TO THE SITUATION...........................

fdalpd 7 years, 9 months ago

JUSTTHEFACTS, I don't believe it is such an open and shut "bingo". The eluding of police officers does not seem to have happened until after the two gentleman were struck. Must be "in the commission of, attempt to commit, or flight from an inherently dangerous felony . . . "

justthefacts 7 years, 9 months ago

You are correct - it's not a bingo. Just goes to show how much better a defense attorney is at spotting loop holes in laws. Just hope that the two women in question get whatever it is that they deserve. Nothing, or the book thrown at them, depending upon what crimes they may actually have committed.

fdalpd 7 years, 9 months ago

Now why would you call me a defense attorney?

fdalpd 7 years, 9 months ago

Now why would you call me a defense attorney? The so-called loophole is explicit in the statute?

Retta H-b 7 years, 9 months ago

I just called the sheriff to give my account. (see post above), They said they would call back. ~retta

hottruckinmama 7 years, 9 months ago

my thoughts go out to the families of these 2 guys. getting killed just trying to make a living. its a shame. is it just me or are people getting nuttier all the time? what could those women have been thinking or doing?

juscin3 7 years, 9 months ago

FSG, sorry for the loss of a loved one. And sorry for the loss of the other victim that was killed. Prayers go out to all of you that were involved.

I drived through construction everyday and I always look to see where the workers are at. Never know when they will come out in front of ya.

Also, I have too seen the sign in MO where you hit or kill a worker you are fined, jail time and I think your license is taken away. I agree, they should make that a law here. They have a law where you slow down or pull into the other lane for an emergency vehicle on the side of the road.

Tom McCune 7 years, 9 months ago

Thanks you, retta.

So, justthefacts, if it can be shown that this driver blew by the flagmen twice going different directions, isn't that enough for "depraved indifference."

Kastun 7 years, 9 months ago

Thats crazy. I just saw Ty a while back for the first time in many years. He was a really nice guy. My thoughts are with the Korte's as well as the family of the other victim.

Ralph Reed 7 years, 9 months ago

My and my family's prayers go to both families.

It's a horrible tragedy. I really am at a loss for words beyond that.

bhs1999 7 years, 9 months ago

I think that you all need to remember that two people left today to go to work and did not come home. There are two families that are grieving the loss of two very young people. Also the family of the women involved must be upset as well, for what their family members have done and how due to their actions that they will possibly have jail time. I think that everyone needs to realize that people who read the article might actually read your posting and it could upset the. I lost my husband in January due to a car accident. The postings after it were also somewhat inappropriate. I feel very sorry for the families who lost a loved one today. I also feel sorry for those of you who feel the need to make comments when you don't even know the situation. I think that we all should be fully aware that the media is not an accurate description of events.

I think we all need to be grateful that we weren't the ones involved in the accident today and that we will still be waking up tomorrow morning.

jasonthesane 7 years, 9 months ago

juscin3,

The "move over" law is not just for emergency vehicles. In July 2006 the law went into effect for all stationary vehicles displaying flashing lights. This includes emergency, construction, maintenance, and other vehicles such as stalled cars. The Move Over Law only applies on four-lane roads or highways. The law requires motorists traveling on two-lane roads to slow down and proceed with caution when passing a stationary vehicle displaying flashing lights.

Thanks for driving safely

Frank Smith 7 years, 9 months ago

I'm glad that a witness, "Retta," posted to this site and other posters encouraged her to contact the police. Her testimony may well be crucial to the prosecution.

It's unnerving that so many posters jumped to conclusions. After all, they are the people from whom juries are picked.

This is not 1st degree homicide without proven intent. More likely it's vehicular homicide or manslaughter, given the descriptions. I hope the driver does a substantial amount of time.

It's tragic that these public service workers were killed. I'm assuming the driver was probably not under the influence of drugs, as so many posters speculated, but more likely was drunk, indulging in the great American pasttime. The attempted escape, in a damaged truck witnessed by so many, was probably an act of lunacy, inebriation or both. Assuming the escape attempt was due to "drugs" in the car is sheer speculation.

The chances that the oncoming driver passing you on a Friday or Saturday night is legally drunk are around 10%, I believe. A meth head, no matter how messed up, would be a lot less likely to cause this sort of a crime though there would be a good possibility of an escape attempt. Someone on barbiturates would have similar problems driving as would a drunk. A weed smoker would be much less impaired.

IMO, the courts are much too easy on drunk drivers, as are the agencies delegated to screen those in need of treatment. It's an issue of incompetence. I've been horrified as I've sat in courtrooms watching proceedings.

We don't know why the passenger was taken into custody. Her conduct doesn't seem to fit the "accessory" statutes. I suspect most people would have similarly been paralyzed into inaction. It was probably a daughter watching her mother going nuts, so she may have been even less able to deal with the behavior. Kansas statutes may allow her to be taken into custody as a material witness. I believe that when a person can no longer voluntarily leave questioning or detention, they are legally under arrest.

I've never driven a car while taking any non-prescription drugs or having had a drink first. I've been a "designated driver" for many decades. I've busted two drunken drivers, apprehending them and making citizen's arrests at the scene. 38 years ago I took prescribed Benadryl for allergies and felt so sleepy when driving I refused to take them again.

A defense attorney is going to try to get a jury to think the other occupant of the car may have been driving at the time of the accident, not his or her client. The aim of that strategy is producing "reasonable doubt." He or she would also try to find "mitigating" circumstances, such as being under the influence of prescribed drugs. The driver certainly will get convicted of leaving the scene of an accident, failure to obey police orders to pull over, reckless driving. They'll do alcohol and drug tests on her.

Bill Chapman 7 years, 9 months ago

I heard the story on a couple of the late news casts. One report said that " one of the women arrested was a road construction worker in her home state". If this is true, and if this was the driver, she should most definitely be charged with vehicular homicide (and hopefully get the highest sentence possible).

pity2bu 7 years, 9 months ago

I only hope they drop the speed to 20 miles per hour from Lawrence to Ottawa now and that every law enforcement officer is running radar on foot, in police cars and from the sky to catch the filthy speeders driving 21 miles per hour in a 20 mile per hour posted work zone.....

As for alot of you people blogging, was it not you that complained when the police ran radar in the construction work zone on Kasold Drive a month, or two back...Thanks to the police and their efforts, as I recall there were no reported injuries, or fatalities during that construction work, just alot whining from the people who got caught!!

May GOD look over and comfort the families of those two men who died a senseless death today. May the high court's punishment be swift and severe for the driver and the occupant of that vehicle!

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