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TheSychophant (Anonymous) says…

Morrison would be foolish to allow Kline's handpicked wingnut comrade to remain as special prosecutor beyond the end of Little Phill's term. If I were Paul Morrison, my first official act as AG would be to fire the that charlatan, whom, while hiding behind “Christian piety,” endorses and supports the “bottom feeding” politics which bestowed eternal infamy upon that contemptible weasel Kline.

rtwngr (Anonymous) says…

Thank goodness you are not Paul Morrison, TheSychophant. You are as reactionary as Phil Kline is conservative. You are a bigot of the religious variety.

I find it incredulous that there is no outcry about pregnant adolescents receiving abortions at any stage. It appears that all a familly member has to do to avoid prosecution for incest and rape is to march their teenage relative to the abortion clinic where it is all hushed up. Much to the delight of the pro-murderous society perpetuated by people such as yourself.

temperance (Anonymous) says…

Has anyone checked out the special prosecutor appointed by Kline? Don McKinney — a guitar pickin' anti-choice freakazoid. Take a look:
http://www.maggotpunks.com/antis/files/0…

jonas (Anonymous) says…

rtwngr: You sure do seem to know a lot about those abortion cases, such as the motivations of whoever impregnated those girls, not to mention their identities. Were you personally involved, or do you just make stuff up?

By the way, if you're going to call someone reactionary and a bigot, it's best to not immediately follow it up by saying a (or the) society is “pro-murderous.” At least, if you don't want to look like a hypocrite; I suppose that may not bug you, though. . .

nugget (Anonymous) says…

The correct spelling a few posts up is:

sycophant - a servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people.

Sounds like Phill Kline to me. This “news” is nothing more than a bumbling attempt at headline grabbing. Kline's stumbling through the legal system is amusing, but sad. If he wants to pursue this, that's his right, but you'd think he'd understand and follow the proper legal channels in doing so. The self implosion witnessed prior to the election continues. He'd better be honing the resume for his next gig while he's learning how to be a real lawyer for the first time—he'll be unemployed the day after the next election. Check what Johnson County thinks of him as a protector of the law if you don't believe that statement.

ladysilk (Anonymous) says…

Phil's legal pursuits bring to mind the many atrocities performed by the Christian church in the name of morality and God. What Phil and others like him seem to forget is that they are not God nor do they speak for God and therefore do not have the right to pass judgement upon anyone, period.

Solomon (Anonymous) says…

Serious question. Does the law require reporting of any pregnancy of a girl below the age of consent? If so, does the “privacy” of an abortion negate that requirement, thereby trumping the rape that occurred?

jonas (Anonymous) says…

To the best of my knowledge: 1) yes, law requires it and 2) no, does not negate.

Of course, those issues aren't the ones with pending charges, it doesn't look like Kline had any evidence of that strong enough to pursue a case.

Reality_Check (Anonymous) says…

“independent special prosecutor”

“McKinney, a Democrat, endorsed Kline, a conservative Republican, in last month’s election.”

Sounds independent to me! (If we lived in Cuba.)

Reality_Check (Anonymous) says…

“Morrison, the Republican-turned-Democrat district attorney of Johnson County, defeated Kline 59 percent to 41 percent.”

you lost! What don't you get? The people FIRED you. You have no job. Shut the hell up and go crawl back under your rock, freak.

sublime (Anonymous) says…

Your absolutely right ladysilk. If a mother wants to murder her unborn child ,she has every right to do so…….You spoke of “the many atrocities performed by the Christian church”.Other than disagree with your “pro-choice” point of view,what other atrocities have they performed???Its my belief that you know abortion is wrong.Thats why you get so angry and hostile about the subject.

Reality_Check (Anonymous) says…

Nugget wrote: “Kline's stumbling through the legal system is amusing, but sad. The self implosion witnessed prior to the election continues. —he'll be unemployed the day after the next election. Check what Johnson County thinks of him as a protector of the law if you don't believe that statement.”

I'm completely lost by your statement. “He'll be unemployed the day after the NEXT election?” He's already unemployed. Has he announced plans to run for something else?

“Check what Johnson County thinks of him”

You mean thinks of Morrison or Kline? Or are you referring to the JoCo margin of vitory of M over K?

crazyks (Anonymous) says…

Aren't you making a HUGE leap, assuming that just because a teenager is pregnant that it automatically means an adult is responsible for it?

Gee, think back to your own teen years. Did you have sex? Before or after the age of 16? With someone much older, or someone your own age?

If we're going to make assumptions, then I'll assume that most teenage girls who become pregnant do so with the help of boys their own age. That's the way it usually was when I was in high school. I don't think teenagers have changed that much over the years.

While some of you purists seem to think that sex between two teenagers is still a crime and should be prosecuted, I don't. Teenagers have been having sex with each other probably since the beginning of time, and they're not going to let Kline's opinion on it change their minds.

And even if it was an adult, exactly how do you plan to find out? It's not required to even put the father's name on a birth certificate, and if the girl doesn't want to talk, she won't. What are you going to do, beat it out of her?

true_patriot (Anonymous) says…

Yes, Kline's lapdog sounds like a real “independent” prosecutor indeed.

The other issue here is that if in fact Kline really was most concerned with tracking down sexual predation and not grandstanding on the abortion issue to deal with his diminishing relevancy and the taint from his ethical breaches, he wouldn't have focused so narrowly on an abortion clinic. The majority of victims of child predators do not end up in abortion clinics. He's so transparent.

The “pro life” extremists (as if everyone isn't pro-life) don't support life when it comes to supporting prenatal care, post natal care, single mothers and working poor families raising babies and young children, and support sending Americans off to die and having their entire family structures decimated as a matter of choice rather than necessity. Not to mention their constant denial of the reality that if abortion in all forms were to be criminalized, those with financial and social connections would continue to have safe abortions one way or the other while the rest will be out having unsterile, dangerous abortions one way or the other, just like it was for centuries before Roe v Wade.

It's ironic that they engage in incredibly selective morality
to the point of caricature while railing against moral relativism.

DaREEKKU (Anonymous) says…

The opinion that abortion is “murder” is just that….an opinion. This opinion is formed due to religious definition that life begins at conception, when scientific evidence shows that it does not. Keep this in mind before posting your religious jargon on the poster-boards. I agree with many other people, the people fired Kline, they disapprove of his actions, he should be gone. If Kline were able to get private medical records just to expose people who have abortions (he had no other good legal basis) think of all the OTHER legal records he could obtain. Just a thought..

preebo (Anonymous) says…

What Kline and a lot of abortion opponents do not realize is that you cannot infringe on personal liberties of the mother if she decides to get an abortion. Until Roe v. Wade is overturned the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment will protect her rights. The simple fact is that the Constitution does not view fetuses as “born or naturalized citizens”, (as it is currently read) so they are not covered by the same clause in the Bill O' Rights. So even if Kline would have had the charges reinstated against Tiller they (Tiller's attorneys) would have taken this case all the way back to the Supreme Court, where they would have declared the Kansas law as Unconstitutional and we would be back at square one. What people fail to realize is that even if Roe v. Wade is overturned that does not mean abortion would be made illegal. All that would do is place issue back on the states and state courts. In no way does my commentary endorse Tiller's action or Late-Term abortions in general, as I happen to be pro-life, but it is important that the debate be rooted in facts and reason and not passion and reaction. The answer to this problem is not illegal versus legal, because there are horrible possibilities if either is taken to the extreme. The answer will be as complex as the issue. We, from both sides of the debate, need to create a dialogue between each other to find the solution that will result in the betterment of all involved.

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…

“This opinion is formed due to religious definition that life begins at conception”

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DaREEKKU,

The thing that is so aggravating about the whole thing is that this religious assertion that “life begins at conception” is found nowhere in the Bible, so there really is no realistic basis for the anti-abortion movement in the Church.

The anti-abortion movement is just another facet of the many antiquated, misogynistic practices on the part of the Church.

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It amuses me that Kline continues to participate in the sort of petty CRAP that got him kicked out of office in the first place. It's almost like he's trying to make his supporters look like morons (moreso than they already did by supporting him in the first place).

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…

preebo,

Thank you for your intelligent and reasoned comments. I do want to say, however, that I feel you are “pro-choice”, even though you may not approve of abortions.

The pro-life movement is one that has no concern for dissenting viewpoints (which you have demonstrated is not a problem you have) and feels that the only proper resolution to this issue is to ban abortions to prevent the “murder” of innocent “children”. You, on the other hand, are someone who understands that abortion is far too complex to uses catchall solutions like banning or non-regulation.

Though most Americans would have reservations about having an abortion (and probably would not have one), the pro-life movement would paint the picture as if there is a large contingent of people that hate children and want abortions for everyone.

Thank you for not being one of those abortion opponents.

SloMo (Anonymous) says…

I asked awhile back if anyone knew whether Kline had attempted to obtain medical records for underage boys who had been treated for venereal diseases. If not, why not? Wouldn't the presence of a venereal disease in a young boy indicate that adult-on-child sexual abuse had occured? Does the law require reporting these cases?

My suspicion is that Kline is either on a witch hunt for abortion providers in general or a get-Tiller-in-particular crusade, and I resent him using sexual abuse as a cover.

daddax98 (Anonymous) says…

Couple of questions for the pro-lifers. should there be an exception for rape or incest or physical deformities? If so why? Don't these babies have just as much right to live? Additionally all pregnancies are dangerous so who decides if there is enough danger to the life of the mother to justify an abortion, or is this even an option?

preebo (Anonymous) says…

Logicsound04,

I would tend to agree, but I believe those lables “Pro-Choice” and “Pro-Life” to be loaded terms. I am “Pro-Life” on all levels. Those who choose to keep a child rather then have an abortion or who would never entertain ideas of abortion are in practice “Pro-Choice”. It just echoes the idea that the terms used to define the positions are really not that far apart from each other. It is the few who take the passionate and unreasonable route on both ends of the issue that drive the wedge between us and prevent us from creating a truly uniting resolution.

preebo (Anonymous) says…

Right_thinker,

First of all, to associate Wichita as Ultra-Liberal is comical. Wichita is a far cry from say, the 9th Curcuit Court. Stop thinking in political terms when applying this case in the courts. It may be hard to believe but there is a difference from political and judicial philosophy. Kline violated procedure and his case suffered. All Kline is guilty of is being a bad lawyer. He should have dotted all the i's and all the t's before taking this case on. This was meant to be his AG Swan Song and he dropped the ball on a procedural technicality. His office should be embarrassed.

Baille (Anonymous) says…

“Additionally all pregnancies are dangerous so who decides if there is enough danger to the life of the mother to justify an abortion, or is this even an option?”

Two doctors.

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

Why doesn't Kline go after God? He performs more abortions (miscarriages) than anyone else. Speaking of…what happens to a soul when a miscarriage happens?

acg (Anonymous) says…

sublime, you've got to be kidding us, right? “What other atrocities has the church performed?” Are you living under a rock? Does it really need to be spelled out for you or are you so blinded by the religious nonsense you've been swallowing for so long that you refuse to see the truth? Wow, I didn't think anyone was that naive anymore.

oxandale (Anonymous) says…

Well, for a woman (or a couple), the decision to get or not get an aboration is a very personal one. Personally, i think that Phil Kline should not be pulling the stunts that he is currently doing so. Late term abortions, I have always wondered…why wait so long to get one? Anyway, here is a guy who is trying to leave the office swinging, no matter how misguided he may be. I cant say that i agree with what he is doing, respect the privacy of those individuals, their reasons for getting the abortions are just that…it is their decisions. It isnt an easy decision to make. A womans body may not physically mature enough to follow thru with a healty pregnancy, the woman might not been had a healthy pregnancy (whether it be by choice or other wise), the pregnancy could have resulted from rape/incest, or in some instances stupidity (young drunk and in the backseat of a car), there fore ill prepared for being “mom”. I am sure everyone will agree parenthood can be a scarey thing, no matter who you are.

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

Wow, I had no idea Wichita is ultra-liberal! Man, talk about being blind. right_thinker, you officially lost all credibility.

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

Take your stinken Bible thumping tactics & shove it where the sun does NOT shine, KLINE! Enjoy your fun in the sun, MORON, because come Jan. 8, it's all going to crumble! I have to wonder, was Kline sexually abused as a kid or was he dropped on his head, either way, he has so much brain damage, no wonder he can't think straight, even though, Tiller's charges have been dropped twice. Kline is a sad excuse for a law enforcement officer & I LAUGH at him & all his supporters for his defeat in November! I also laugh at all Tiller haters! None of you that I just mentioned have a case. If Paul Morrison is smart, come January, he will focus on Murders, robberies & other horrific crimes, which have nothing to do with Tiller! move on kansas!

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

There's nothing wrong w/ being liberal. And i think most everyone will agree that Wichita is far from liberal, let alone “ultra-liberal.”

right_thinker, I believe you and people like you are confused and it's dangerous not to educate yourself.

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

BTW, Kline himself is a criminal for infringing on women's rights that are protected under the Roe V. Wade decision. Shouldn't charges be brought forward against the religious zealot himself? If that doesn't happen, so be it, but he has one sad record that future law students in Kansas will laugh at for years to come because he never fought crime. The only fight he committed to was the fight against doctors like Tiller. That is not a record that I would be proud of, Tiller haters & Kline supporters.

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

One more thing, folks, none of you or I are above the law. What I despise the most about Kline is that he claims he is above the law. Well, news flash, you're not above the law, MORON! Get in back of the line, you zealot!

LawrenceRes (Anonymous) says…

So Right Thinker, from reading previous posts let me see if I have figured out the conservative philosophy on the subject…

* Teach abstinence only. Do not teach methods of pregnancy prevention. No condoms, no birth control, no emergency contraception.

* If pregnancy occurs (no matter what circumstance- rape, incest, birth control failure, etc.) carry through with pregnancy no matter what the mother's age, social status, income, single, married, whatever.

* Right Thinker bitches about welfare. So no public assistance to give a mother a chance to get on her feet. (I don't agree with people who take advantage of the system and make no attempt to better themselves but that problem will probably always exist)

* However, a parent should not put their kids in daycare, so she should stay at home and raise babies. No need to be working because that is selfish and bad parenting according to RT. Yet if not working, how will she afford to put food on the table? The father? Please.

Interesting. What a vicious cycle, and so full of contradictions. Maybe we should be providing realistic sex education, access to healthcare, affordable birth control (prices are rediculous), accessable emergency contraception (NO, it does not abort a pregnancy, only keeps egg from dropping if has not already), affordable health care for women who do find themselves pregnant, affordable daycare, more college scholarships and grants for nontraditional students, the list goes on.

I do not believe in having irresponible sex and then using abortion as a birth control method, however pregnancy happens and in some cases the women does not have many options. And the quality of life for the baby would be sad.

Maybe RT should be adopting unwanted babies and educating young women and men about sex and contraception.

Yeah right!

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

LawrenceRes, your philosophies are too rational, and therefore, way too ultra-liberal for someone like right_thinker to comprehend.

LawrenceRes (Anonymous) says…

I think it would kill right_thinker to know that I grew up in a conservative to moderate household with a homophobic father and a sort of traditional mother, and I went college, became educated and started to think for myself.

Oh, and by the way. I became a mother at the age of 18. The father was a deadbeat, I worked at a kwik shop and took no less than 18 hours of college credit each semester. I earned an associate and a bachelors degree and never went on public assistance. I could have choose abortion but personally, I never would. However, that is an exceptional case and I was lucky to have supportive friends and family or I would have ended up who knows where.

Maybe more women would choose to carry through with a pregnancy if they had the support of their friends, family, community, local colleges/high schools, churches (yeah right). I couldn't tell you how many dirty looks I got from old women and bible thumpers because I was young and pregnant. They ALL must have waited until marriage to have sex right? Or is it they were LUCKY enough to have never been caught or become pregnant.

Forget about left-wing/right-wing. I'm just tired of hipocrites and closed-minded people.

ryanjasondesch (Anonymous) says…

right thinker: I hearby nominate you and Kline for the Biggest Douche in the Universe Award. Previous Award Winners include the Great Jon Edwards. Few on here have given you any credibility for a while. Not many will take someone seriously when they seem to find a way to blame Clinton for everything (by the way, how you haven't mentioned about how Clinton is somehow responsible for Tiller's practice).

And by the way, having no credibility means all reasonable people, liberal moderate or conservative, don't buy a single inflammatory piece of garbage you waste half your day in typing. So stop, please. You're embarrasing yourself. Or don't, it's amusing sometimes to read the opinions of fools.

And I hardly believe that you don't loose any sleep at night, getting so worked up over the 'looney left'.

Baille (Anonymous) says…

“On Wednesday, Kline’s office got a chance to tell the judge, Paul Clark, why he should reconsider. Kline did not appear at the hearing, leaving the arguments to his assistant, Stephen Maxwell”

Kline isn't going to be able to duck the courtroom once he becomes a real criminal attorney - or will he? Will he be the worst DA JoCo has ever seen or just one of the worst?

preebo (Anonymous) says…

… Just a little sidenote.

Isn't interesting how Kline is now appointing a Third-Party prosecutor for this case? When the attorneys for Tiller and Planned Parenthood attempted to do the same thing through Morrison's office, Kline and his personel stated that there was no authority in the Attorney General's Office to subcontract legal prosecution out to another body.

What it appears that we have here is a situation that Kline has figured that any prosecution of this case will end sooner then it began with Morrison taking over in a few weeks. His actions now are nothing more then political in nature. Kline has always been a better politician then a litigator. He again, is playing to his base in attempt to keep himself in their minds for the future.

…as an attorney his only claim to fame was trying the Kansas Death Penalty case in front of the U.S. Supreme Court, which is something of an accomplishment, but did nothing to win his case the precedant was already set by Ohio and other states before his shot came up. All the court did was uphold the lower courts ruling. He could have tried the case from a hospital bed. Anyone who practices law knows Kline was a civil procedures attorney and was never one for criminal practice, so it is suprising that he would drop the ball in this case, but maybe it isn't that suprising afterall.

boldaq (Anonymous) says…

Tiller the Killer may have judges and politicians in his pocket but he's got Bill O'Reilly on his azz.

Tiller is going down this time. Bank on it!

The attacks on Kline are from a small group of loudmouth leftwing whackos. Their main purpose is to divert attention from the foul subject at hand - i.e., killing babies.

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…

Oooooh, not Bill O'Reilly!!! He was so good on Hard Copy!

As far as the “leftwing whackos”—you must be including everyone that isn't a bible thumping religious zealot. And so you know, that group is a lot larger than you think. It may be comforting to tell yourself that most people agree with your misogynistic, intolerant worldview, but that's simply not the case.

People don't “go down” for performing legal medical procedures—that's just one of the traits of this great republic of ours…

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

Oh yea, boldaq, Bill O'Reilly is a GREAT source of information regarding abortions & doctors like Tiller. What planet are you from? Have you ever had to face the decision of whether to continue a pregnancy or get an abortion because of the dangers that come from the pregnancies themselves? I don't think so. So, you & the other Tiller haters & Kline venom lovers get in back of the line. There is no room in Kansas for hate mongers like Kline. NONE!

Calliope877 (Anonymous) says…

sublime said:

“You spoke of “the many atrocities performed by the Christian church”.Other than disagree with your “pro-choice” point of view,what other atrocities have they performed???”

Hmmm…let's see here: the sexual abuse performed by Catholic priests on small boys comes to mind; the Salem Witch Trials; oh, and the Inquisition was also pretty atrocious — Christians were pretty creative on how to torture would-be sinners back then. These are just a few examples of course…let me know if you want some more.:)

acg (Anonymous) says…

To anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together, Bill O'Reilly is a joke. I have to admit, I was worried there for awhile. It felt as if the Age of the Bible Thumper was upon us, but it seems to have started to ebb, thankfully!! More and more people are waking up to what this moron O'Reilly and that skank Coulter are all about. I think Tiller need not worry at all. There are too many people out there who are sick and tired of the bible freaks and their dogmatic nonsense who aren't going to lie down and take any more attacks on our personal freedoms. And we stand behind Tiller and his right to do his job, all the freaking way!!

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

Well, acg, I wish I could share your sense of confidence because until we circulate a petition to have charges leveled against Kline for violating the privacy statutes that are clearly defined in the decision of Roe V. Wade, we're not gonna go very far in bringing down the Tiller haters.

preebo (Anonymous) says…

Boldaq,

Since you and others like you insist on going down this road of claiming murder and infanticide, I have one question…

What of the women who carry these “babies” almost to full-term and then decide to have the pregnancy terminated? Are they not as guilty? I hear nothing of their complacency with the procedure nor the practices of Dr. Tiller or Planned Parenthood. Should we not hold them as accountable under your determination for the death of the fetus? You villify Abortion Clinics, but you say nothing of the women going into the procedure. It's as if you liken them as lambs to a slaughter, but in reality they are in many cases women who are intelligent, throughtful, and most of all aware of their circumstance. If you continue to hold this line of thinking then you might as well hold the women accountable as well.

My guess is that you won't. The mere concept of holding hundreds of thousands of women criminally liable would hurt your campaign. Say you get your wish and we outlaw this practice… then what? Women attempt it themselves in alleys across America, or cross into either Canada or Mexico to obtain the procedure. The reality is that abortion clinics are not the problem, but rather the want and demand for the procedure is. To solve this quandry it will take a real debate established on finding a solution that will help mankind and not divide it based on half-baked social conservativism.

Roadkill_Rob (Anonymous) says…

A quick question for boldaq and right_thinker, if you are both so pro-life, what are you doing to help ease other human suffering? There are A LOT more atrocities in the world other than abortion.

Put your money where your mouth is instead of complaining about left-wing whackos on a blog.

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

All y'all who make George Tiller out to be the bad guy, stick it! Those of you Kline Supporters who value life, what are YOU doing to ease the pain & suffering of Neuro Muscular Disease patients? I am waiting…..oh you don't have an answer. You curse the women who get these abortions, when you clearly have NO clue about the pain they endure, yet you revere Phil Kline. To people like you: you make me sick!

fletch (Anonymous) says…

This is what cracks me up about these ultra-socialist right wingers. They claim they want small government, but they want that small government to control your actions, thoughts, medical decisions, and religious beliefs. The right wing has up and turned into a bunch of pinko commies. They Kline the Medical Czar standing over your shoulder calling you a filthy whore reminding you not to get a prescription for birth control because it would make Jesus cry.

The Kansas right wing needs to go back to Russia where they belong.

boldaq (Anonymous) says…

“Bill O'Reilly is a joke.” acg

And the joke is on you and your liberal ilk. Bill O'Reilly has the support of mainstream America and is becoming more powerful everyday. He's already brought down many leftwing renegade judges and Paul Clark is one of the worst. Tiller and Clark are going down.

This is what you “stand behind”. Proud of yourself?

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Ima…

Baille (Anonymous) says…

luffa

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

In your dreams, boldaq! Tiller is not going down because KLINE will not be in office after Jan. 8th. Spare me the psycho babble trash about Tiller & Clark!!! You didn't apparently answer the question from before, zealot, what are you doing to ease human suffering? There are TONS more people suffering from other ailments that are far worse than abortion. Well……?

rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

Before I sign off for the day, everyone, especially you who love Kline & hate Tiller:

What Phil Kline has done in recent days proves even more why he cannot be trusted. He relies on the lies of Bill O'Reilley & that whench Ann Coulter to conduct witch hunts against doctors like George Tiller. That is a sure sign of desparation for a man who never fought crime during his tenure.

All of you who HATE Tiller & love Kline, your logic is flawed beyond measure. How can you say you're for smaller government when KLINE illegally invades privacy rights of abortion clinic patients by ignoring the statutes set forth by the Roe V. Wade decision? What are you, the abortion clinic haters doing to ease the human suffering throughout the world that is far worse than abortions? You have no answers, & to think that Phil Kline can ease the ills of Kansas, stick it!

acg (Anonymous) says…

Absolutely! I'm totally proud of myself. I'm proud of me for many reasons, but sticking with what's germane to this conversation, I'm proud of myself for being smart enough to know that more often than not right wing conservative is synonomous with bigot, homophobe, racist, zealot and alot of the times, idiot. So, if you're asking me if I'm proud of myself for sticking up for a liberal viewpoint, then I'd have to say you bet your a** I am. I'm always willing to stick up for the rights and freedoms our country and constitution guarantee us. One of the most important of those being the separation of church and state. See, I don't begrudge you bible thumpers your right to believe that nonsense. I'm just tired of you all cramming it down the rest of our throats. You want to believe that life begins at conception because of some muddled viewpoint some idiot preacher, minister or priest put into your head because you aren't smart enough to think for yourself, go right ahead. The rest of us maybe aren't so deluded.

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…

Jesus boldaq, you are a certifiable moron.

Care to explain how Bill has “brought down” other judges? Not only would that be amazing, but impossible as well, seeing as how the only people that can “bring down” a judge are the voters (if the court in question uses a re-affirmation vote) or themselves (by dying or finishing their term).

I also cannot ignore the dangerous tone of you suggestion that judges need to be “brought down”. What don't you understand about the impartiality of judges? The reason our justice system functions better than any other in the world is because our judges can rule based on the letter of the law rather than based on pressure from the likes of you and O'Reilly in your moral ivory tower. If a judge is truly a “renegade” (whatever the f*ck THAT means), then his ruling will eventually be overturned on appeal or when a similar case comes before different judges.

It's comments like yours that implicitly condone the actions of people who threaten and attack members of the justice system. Go away.

ihatejohntravolta (Anonymous) says…

if wichita was “uber-liberal”, i don't understand how or why they would have supported George W. Bush in 2004. “According to unofficial vote totals for 2004, Bush received 105,413 votes and John Kerry received 61,418 votes from Sedwick County”.

Shelby (Anonymous) says…

So…when *does* life begin? Is it when the baby takes a breath of air?

moxxie_mama (Anonymous) says…

Bill is not getting more popular, he's lost millions in viewers over the last couple of years. Seems people are quite sick of his spin.

parkay (Anonymous) says…

preebo,
Most states outlaw the post-viable abortions that Tiller routinely commits. Kansas outlaws post-viable abortions except when the impending delivery threatens the mother with death or permanent injury to a major body function. Tiller has been using the possibility of depression to justify collecting his $10,000+ for each legalized infanticide, in violation of Kansas law. That's what these 30 misdemeanor charges are about. But abortion cannot prevent depression; abortion often CAUSES serious, long-term depression and other mental problems.
So don't scream Roe v. Wade or Doe v. Bolton. Tiller is guilty according to the documented evidence, and Kline has the specific authority under Kansas law to file these charges, without the DA's permission.
DA Foulston and Judge Paul Clark are lying, and should be thrown out - now.

logicsound04 (Anonymous) says…

I was wondering when you'd show up to spout your propoganda, parkay. I figured you were taking you time so as to have all your facts ready—I'm disappointed if this is the best you can do.

The bottom line is that in Kansas, mental health is just as viable a legal reason to perform late-term abortions as physical health. You can scream until you're blue in the face about whether or not the women in question were actually depressed or not, but assuming they were (having been diagnosed by a doctor) Dr. Tiller has NOT violated Kansas law, he has only defied your draconian morals.

I find it funny that you would call Foulston and Clark liars, while simultaneously supporting a man that brought out 15-year-old, disproven sexual assault allegations in his most recent campaign. Why would you trust a mouthpiece with no prosecutorial experience over an experienced DA and District Judge? I know: because your support is not based in facts, but rather promoting your agenda. I bet you didn't even notice that Kline didn't even appear at the appeal—his assistant handled it. Seems kinda suspicious if the case is so airtight…

preebo (Anonymous) says…

Parkay,

Again you are taking the wrong approach. My argument wasn't against the violation of the “Women's-Right-to-know Act.” Your argument cannot be concluded