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Well, we've done it again. We've taken your LJWorld.com and shaken things up a bit.

While we've been busying redoing KUsports.com, re-redoing lawrence.com, building and rebuilding WellCommons, venerable LJWorld.com has continued with almost no major changes in several years.

Today, however, that changes. We've unveiling a host of subtle changes that we think will make it easier for you to find the variety of content on a variety of topics that our journalists are creating. Here, in detail, are the biggest changes we've made. If you have feedback, questions, or concerns, feel free to post them below and Whitney, Ben Spaulding, our designer, or myself will try to get you answers.

So, the biggest change is "The Latest" — a constantly changing feed of the latest content from our staff. On the previous homepage, it was only a list of the latest stories and blogs on LJWorld.com. Now, it's a list of the latest multimedia content from any site in our network — and it can be a video, a photo gallery or even a special feature. Here's a before and after:

The new latest (left) vs. the old latest (right). We've included more media types in the feed, plus included links to content on the other sites in our family of sites.

The new latest (left) vs. the old latest (right). We've included more media types in the feed, plus included links to content on the other sites in our family of sites. by Jonathan Kealing

Next up, you'll notice in that same picture that we've added a third tab: a most discussed feed from lawrence.com and WellCommons. There's a lot of good content and good discussions on those sites and we want to put them in front of our largest audience, on LJWorld.com. We don't have KUsports.com discussions anywhere on the homepage yet, but we have some other plans for that, down the road.

In addition, you'll notice that we've rearranged and change our featured content boxes. Instead of being stacked down column two, they're now split between column two and column three, with sports and state government occupying prime positions. Next are our WellCommons and lawrence.com features, which replace the large WellCommons box and Arts and Entertainment feature we had on the old site. These link you directly to those two sites. Here's a before and after look at that.

The old version of features are at top, the new version is below. You can also see that we've moved our videos module down a bit, in acknowledgement that our videos will now also cycle through the latest.

The old version of features are at top, the new version is below. You can also see that we've moved our videos module down a bit, in acknowledgement that our videos will now also cycle through the latest. by Jonathan Kealing

The last significant move is the editorials, which have moved from under The Latest above the user blogs and letters to the editor. We think this reflects that all of this content is, fundamentally, opinion-based. In fact, in a previous iteration of the homepage, those two modules were located together. Here's a look at where you can find that content now.

The previous location of editorials, below, has been replaced by a new location near user blogs and letters to the editor, at top. It also helped make our columns more even!

The previous location of editorials, below, has been replaced by a new location near user blogs and letters to the editor, at top. It also helped make our columns more even! by Jonathan Kealing

That brings us to what didn't change. Most discussed is exactly where it has always been and its function is the exact same. The navigational bar is the same as well, though we do expect some changes there in the not-too-distant future. The top ads, visual tours and green edition remain where they've always been, as do our lists of special features, events and the ever-popular on the street question.

If I've missed something or you have a question or concern, leave it in the comments. I'll be checking in all night and again tomorrow to help out and take your feedback.

Comments

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Awww, thanks! We really appreciate the kind feedback.

RoeDapple 4 years, 3 months ago

Looks good! (and thanks for the heads up) 8-]

ILoveLawrence 4 years, 3 months ago

All the little icons on the list of articles make a bit of visual overload.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the feedback. We'll discuss it and see if there's anything that can be done.

xyz 4 years, 3 months ago

What's the point of the icons? I also think they are visual overload. If you keep them, at least change the colors on the JW icon. The blues are too muddy so the JW doesn't stand out.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Our goal was to make it so people would know if we were given them a link that takes them off LJWorld.com.

Amy Albright 4 years, 3 months ago

The little icons make it very hard for me to scan the story list. Sorry guys...!

Plurilingual 4 years, 3 months ago

Agreed. I started getting a headache within 30 seconds as my eyes raced around trying to find the start of the title on each item. Maybe it would be better if the icon appeared after the title, and therefore didn't cause a proliferation of indentions.

Eric Gruber 4 years, 3 months ago

I like it. The icons help at a glance and really break up the text.

I also like the incremental change instead of a "shock and awe" approach. Thumbs up.

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

"We've unveiling a host of subtle changes that we think will make it easier for you to find the variety of content on a variety of topics that our journalists are creating."

And:

"the biggest change is "The Latest" — a constantly changing feed of the latest content from our staff" "Constantly changing" and "easier to find" are mutually exclusive concepts.

Only a computer nerd would venture into such territory. Recreating reality is not a new productive. Unless it makes "easier to find" a fact. We shall see.

More than one web site has come crashing down as a result of a format change. Ho hum.....Yahoo changed so I think I'll try Google.........

Watch out Dan, for people who know what they are talking about. They probably don't. Mr. Keeling is jerking us around, Dan. Watch him like a hawk.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

I guess what I mean is it's always been constantly changing, and what we're trying to do is make the constantly changing feed, easier to use. But your points are all well-taken, and that's why we'll be waiting for and watching for your feedback.

Judgesmails 4 years, 3 months ago

Somebodys always gotta be changing something!! I hate change! Thanks, Every small, dumpy town in KS

Scott Morgan 4 years, 3 months ago

Dagnabit, I hate change, hate hate hate it, cept that gizmo making the windshield wipers go slow then fast, somebody bringun me pizza, them toasted sub samatches, ma likes them heated car seats too, streaming movies on demand, and I guess newspapers from around the world for free on that introductorynet too.

Best small city newspaper in the nation.

Catalano 4 years, 3 months ago

Geez, people, get a grip. Try it out. At least we got a tutorial, which I very much appreciated. Thanks, JK.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

There are things we like and things we dislike about threaded comments. By-and-large, we like more than we dislike, but that doesn't mean we can't change our minds. And we've been reading all the comments about it.

overthemoon 4 years, 3 months ago

Ok. Appearances are important. Content more so. Well written articles that read like a trained journalist wrote them and a conscientious editor reviewed them would be a good move.

overthemoon 4 years, 3 months ago

Me, too. But there are far too many stories without a point, lacking detail, and oddly written. I realize that the effort to respond to a 24/7 news world is difficult, but we really can't throw out the substance to meet deadlines. The basics of communication have served us well, evolving as needed, for a long time. The deterioration of the language and the quality of communication is something that will not serve us well in the long run.

sharong 4 years, 3 months ago

I like the new format too. What kind of video player do I need to play the videos? I can't get anything to play. Thanks! to the person that answers this question.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Hi Sharong--

We use a flash-based video player. So the latest adobe flash player is what you need to watch our videos. One other thing that had befuddled people: if they have an ad blocker on. Because we play pre-roll video ads, ad-blockers won't allow our videos to play. Please let me know if you have other questions.

SandCoAlmanac 4 years, 3 months ago

Lost me. Right out of the chute, you lost me. Where are the birth and marriage announcements? Before this "old" format, they used to be at the bottom of the page. Now (yesterday, I guess), they were buried under "More stories." Count me as one of the "don't like change" crowd. I'm not very fond of hide-and-seek on web pages, unless I suspect the designer is trying to hide something ... So ... where do I click now? Some designs are only intuitive to geeks and the designers, you know. Can you group all those little icons together? KU, JW, etc in one sequence so I don't have to look through the entire random list to find something? That's part of the hide-and-seek game that's so inefficient.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Hi SandCo--

I'm not completely sure I understand your question, but let me try. Marriage announcements, along with anniversaries and engagements, didn't move. They're on the couples page. You can access those by going to the News navigation menu (at the top of the page, click the arrow next to the word news). It's the 22nd item down. If you're looking for births, those are located on the today's news page. You can access that page three ways: from the news navigation menu (top item: Today's news), from the LJWorld.com link underneath The Latest, and in the footer at the bottom of the page, where it says Today's News. Also, incidentally, all of the marriage, engagement and anniverary announcements are listed on the Today's News page on Saturdays when they're published.

If I've missed something or misunderstood, please let me know and I'll do my best to answer or correct your problem.

SandCoAlmanac 4 years, 3 months ago

Sorry, Jonathan. I guess I had a bad day. After having dinner and calming down, I was able to find those same listings I thought I'd lost. I need to think before I post. I apologize. Still -- I don't like change, but I'll get over it. Thanks for your help.

markeilert 4 years, 3 months ago

What happened to the downtown web cam? I live out of town and like to "see" what's going on. Hope you bring it back soon!

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

As part of our sale of 6News to Knology, we lost that feature. But we hope to have new webcams up before the spring storm season.

geekin_topekan 4 years, 3 months ago

See if you can get one up at 10th and Mass.

Or looking down 23rd. That'd be cool.

gmill 4 years, 3 months ago

It's definitely a change for the better!

FarneyMac 4 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, and nothing proves that point better than an out-of-context reply to a comment 30 comments ago.

Plurilingual 4 years, 3 months ago

Ctrl-F, TomShewmon

If you have trouble finding responses to your posts, do that. Threading is great.

GardenMomma 4 years, 3 months ago

How about a way to collapse comments? When an article gets too many comments, it is aggravating to scroll down to the more recent comments.

For example, in the article about the recent weather that kept getting updates, there were several hundred comments over a two or three day period. When I read the update I have to scroll through all the previous comments in order to read the ones that pertain to the update.

A way to collapse a day's worth or even 100 comments at a time would be helpful.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Good note. We'll take that into consideration. Thanks!

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

No changes to anyone's ability to post. But, methinks you knew that already! :-)

aha 4 years, 3 months ago

i like the new format. the icons are cool too.

Jay_lo 4 years, 3 months ago

LJWorld, some subtle changes Comfort level rearranges Something new Is fun to see Getting used to it we'll be

Whitney, Jonathan and Ben Rock our world now and again Keep things fresh And looking new Congratulations to them due

Sometimes change for change's sake Helps to keep us all awake Enjoy slightly Different views While still we're keeping up with news

Content is the major thing And LJWorld is still the king We love to check in every day And find out what They have to say

So thanks for keeping up to date We think the new look's really great And while fine tuning you'll probably do Just know that we're Right there with you!

Jay_lo 4 years, 3 months ago

A little free-styl'n The compliments pil'n A little nose brown'n To keep JK from frown'n

But truth be still speak'n I'm cool, I'm not freak'n With changes their mak'n In stride I am tak'n

The newness I'm lik'n So compliments spik'n And good luck I'm send'n As this rhyme be end'n

northtowngrl 4 years, 3 months ago

I kind of like it. is more graphically appealing. It seems to take a little longer to load now though. Maybe that is just my computer though. One thing I would like to see added is a way to suscribe to individual stories so that if it is something you are following, you could get email notifications when someone adds a comment. Can you do that? Have you thought about doing that?

xian 4 years, 3 months ago

Following comment threads and notifications are definitely on our list. There's a number of things we hope to do to improve the commenting experience.

Thanks for the feedback and we're glad you're liking the changes.

Scott Overfield 4 years, 3 months ago

Now that you guys have the capital, lets see some hardcore journalism without fear!

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 3 months ago

It's always bothered me that the comments stay with an updated headline/story, sometimes completely taking the thread out of context. The story has changed or been edited to say something different while the comments remain the same (excluding troll commenters who always remain the same).

labmonkey 4 years, 3 months ago

The only thing I think makes it cluttered are the little icons to the side of the latest stories (the ones indicating what site the article is from). That does make for visual overload.

Jay_lo 4 years, 3 months ago

I wonder, as far as the visual overload goes, could you just use the little icons to identify stories from the other sources?

We could assume that everything else was an LJWorld article, and it would make the stories from the other sources much easier to spot. The LJW icon is now the dominant one that makes for most of what some see as clutter.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

That's an interesting idea. We'll talk about that. Thanks!

Stephanie Harris 4 years, 3 months ago

I really liked having the "events" at the bottom of the main page.

Stephanie Harris 4 years, 3 months ago

Ooops. I see they are there again. Sorry....too early for me!

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

It's funny you mentioned the events. I actually felt like the new format pulled me down the page more than the previous version, making it more likely I saw the events list. Glad you found them!

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 3 months ago

Events are important and I'd love to find em easier. Also do you plan to have any movie theater info or just link back to lawrence.com? I noticed that's been down awhile.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Can you give me a link? We will soon roll out an upgrade to our movie listings on lawrence.com, and intend to send everyone to that link. But, if there's a place we're missing, we want to know. Thanks!

Wendy magillicutty 4 years, 3 months ago

I apologize, the movie link is indeed working HOWEVER..since Hollywood theaters seem to only share information with fandango, and not my fancy movie apps ;) I kinda liked being able to see MPA ratings, movie length and even a short synopsis or review. I understand you've made changes to lawrence.com so just wondering if any of those features will return?

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

We're about 98% done with the new movie data importer. Once that's done, we should have all that synopsis information you're looking for. Sorry about the inconvenience!

esj2003 4 years, 3 months ago

Simply, the move is innovative, practical, and actually obvious, despite you folks being the first (one of them?) to attempt it. The information flows with the day, and the important places your eyes dart across the page contain the important info you need. It's a very social way of providing news from a spectrum of places, and it makes total sense.

And don't fret about commenters who think they are good judges of journalistic abilities. Some of them still think they're reading a newspaper.

classclown 4 years, 3 months ago

In the never ending quest to make it easier to read things around here, you left out the most important change. Threaded comments make it difficult to keep up with the latest comments.

♠ UNTHREAD THE COMMENTS ♠

geekin_topekan 4 years, 3 months ago

"64 comments from Wysiwyg69 Jonathan Kealing Jay_lo Cheeseburger Pádraig O'Connell Murphycat Dougnamy Xyz Labmonkey Wendy magillicutty and 26 others " ++++ That comes up to 37, not 64.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

That's because several of those named have left multiple comments!

Helen Pendleton Rumbaut 4 years, 3 months ago

I really miss the Channel 6 Tower cam view of downtown Lawrence. It's my link to my old hometown.

wmathews 4 years, 3 months ago

Unfortunately, the tower cam is a feature we lost due to our split with 6News. We hope to have a new camera installed soon!

Whitney Mathews Assistant Community Editor for Online

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

We're hoping to have a replacement for it by the time spring storm season rolls in. Thanks for the feedback.

d_prowess 4 years, 3 months ago

Does this now mean that if you comment on an KUSports.com article, you will see that comment no matter if you access the story from KUSports.com or the LJW? In the past those stories would have different comment feeds depending on where you accessed the story.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

That won't change for now, but what will change is hopefully driving more of the conversation over to KUsports.com, thereby keeping all the conversation in one place. There are some technical hurdles to truly unifying comment threads.

Zachary Stoltenberg 4 years, 3 months ago

JK,

I come to LJWorld.com to read the articles. I generally peruse almost all of them, rarely do I venture to lawrence.com and I have never cared for "well-commons" I feel like you are trying to capitalize on your traffic to LJWorld and push users into other pages they may have little to no interest in. I understand the point of the icons but here is the reality. You have now taken the content I'm interested in and squished it down to only 1/3 of the page (and the smallest third at that) and I have to scroll half way to china to peruse the list. I lose interest in anything I have to scroll down to. Even yout headline story is too large at the top of the page. Most of the list is content that is irrelevant to me (wellcommons and lawrence.com) , making it even harder to find anything I may be interested in reading. For the first time on months, I closed LJWorld and opened the Topeka Capital Journal and KCStar. This is enough to lose me as a reader, at least for my priority news. LJWorld will become my backup news source.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Z--

A couple of thoughts.

1) We are trying to put WellCommons and lawrence.com traffic in front of our largest audience. I think I even put that in my blog post. But we wanted to do it in a way that anyone who wasn't interested in the content could ignore it.

2) We literally doubled the number of headlines on the list of the latest. It's possible you may see one or two fewer headlines on any given day, but you should be able to find what you're looking for.

3) We're actually moving more toward vertical leads, to decrease the amount of space taken up by the lead. In the future, we hope to make other changes to the lead space on LJWorld.com.

4) It's true that we're giving people more than just headlines. But the headlines can still be found, just as easily as before. If text stories are your primary interest, I'd encourage you to bookmark http://www2.ljworld.com/news/today/. All of our stories, in the order they're published, are listed chronologically at the top of the page, going down.

Thanks for the feedback. For the most part, it's been positive, but we certainly want to hear the negatives and will try and address them, where possible.

boxers_or_briefs 4 years, 3 months ago

Give it a chance Z. Did you make your rash decision after five minutes?

Zachary Stoltenberg 4 years, 3 months ago

not a rash decision at all, I read 7 different newspapers every morning, all online. There are things about the LJWorld I really like and think they do well, there are a lot of things I believe they could improve on. The new format makes it difficult to find things. It seems to me that the meaningful content is being shoved out of the way in favor of more ad space and links to crap I don't care about. Other online papers seem to be more "user friendly" and I will tend to gravitate more towards them now. Ever go to Google's home page? Is it cluttered? perhaps that has something to do with why it is the #1 search engine. More is not always better and I think this change is a prime example of that.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

What are the biggest changes you would have us make? We do intend a bigger evolution of LJ at some point this year, so I'd love to hear what we could do to improve your experience.

Zachary Stoltenberg 4 years, 3 months ago

A) Don't try to do everything on the front page. Most people are smart enough to navigate through a menu as long as it makes sense. For instance, most of the sports articles are together right? Only show breaking news on the top of the front page. As it is right now, it's crowded and cluttered.

B) Limit the freakin' advertisements. I know it's a revenue generating part of the web and it isn't going away, but a quick review of other sites shows 1-2 ads per page. The LJWorld has 3 (on this load) and in addition runs other "ads" for other things on LJWorld or Lawrence.com. As a suggestion, keep it to 2 ads and opt to replace those ads as necessary with links to your own content.

C) Stretch the page to fit any larger screen. I know that the current format is an effort to make the page load quickly and have a more uniform appearance on multiple browsers, but especially on a newer computer with the HD resolution settings, LJWorld is using half of my available screen space(with large white stripes ddown both sides) leading to the annoying scrolling I mentioned earlier.

D) Shorten the darn page! It's bad enough when a story has 80+ comments (which incidentally takes forever to load on a mobile device) it also makes the scroll bar at the side more difficult to use and control. Put the comments in a frame with their own scroll bar and give users the option to "hide" them altogether if they aren't interested in the comments section. This would speed loading on a mobile device, make the scroll bar at the side easier to use, and be an answer to those who don't enjoy the comment section.

E) Make the top story smaller or eliminate the advert at the header. When the page loads on my browser, I can't see a single story title or text (other than the main story with the giant picture). The list of popular stories or breaking news should be immediately available at the top of the page, no scrolling.

Deja Coffin 4 years, 3 months ago

What about possibly adding a "Like" button. It would be nice to be able to comment without actually commenting on other people's posts. Other then the suggestion, no complaints here! Great work and thank you!

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

We're working on getting up-voting added to our comments. It's not exactly a like button, but it should work mostly the same way. Thanks for asking!

Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 3 months ago

Keiling - Why do controversial articles seem to "disappear" sometimes? I have posted on some of the storied about Kris Kobach, and returned a few hours later to find the article gone. What's up here? I know this is a Republican Rag, that Dolph does not want the other side to have a voice here, but you people are supposed to be journalists and when you publish a story that might be a wee bit controversial and you get hit with a lot of flak, why do you retreat??? This is not Egypt.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Our articles stay up there until they're replaced by something newer — it's rare that they'll be gone in less than 8 hours, and even then if you were to do a search or visit our news archives pages, you should be able to find them. Also, make sure your default view is set to The Latest, and not Popular. Our popular list is based solely on the number of discussions going on around a specific story.

onceinawhile 4 years, 3 months ago

The search function on LJWorld.com is incredibly unreliable. I just searched for "Kris Kobach" in the search bar and it came up with zero results.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 4 years, 3 months ago

Hi "Bob" Glad your meter is working, have you changed your batteries lately??

Alceste 4 years, 3 months ago

It would be pleasant if the programmers would grasp the fact that ever so many of "us" don't hate Bill Gates or Microsoft and use MSIE.

Because, evidently, certain people within LJWorld have a wanton contempt for Gates: Many, many times the browser is compelled to switch over to "compatability view" due to the fact the coding is done to please the coders, not the "us" who read the web site and buy stuff from the advertisers.

"We" don't want Google Chrome; "We" don't want "Firefox"; "We" don't want Opera; etc.

Yes, the use of Internet Explorer has gone down, but it's still most excellent and there is the reality: "The usage share of Internet Explorer has declined from over 62.1% in January 2010 to 57.1% in December 2010 according to Net Applications..." in addition to this fact: "The Firefox usage share has slowly declined in 2010, from 24.4% in January to 22.8% in December." (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browser ).

Can't the programming be done so that MSIE is not compelled to move into "compatability mode"? The best of sites makes certain MSIE works....and I'm referring to journalistic sites from the New York Times to The Christian Science Monitor to The Chicago Tribune, etc., etc., etc. Perhaps in addition to simply being arrogant, the internet side of LJWorld is either just lazy or maybe even doesn't know how to program outside of "open source". (And these remarks are coming from a FreeBSD advocate for hard core applications, not simply "web browsing". For the basics, Windows has always been just fine and shall continue to be just fine.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 3 months ago

Hi Alceste--

We certainly intend to support all versions of IE 7 and newer. Is there a specific version of IE where you're having this problem? Also, do you remember the last time it happened to you?

xian 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you for alerting us to this problem and where it's occurring. We've been able to recreate the problem and have a ticket open to get it fixed.

Thank you for your patience while we do so. I'd also encourage you to use the feedback for that's on the bottom of every page of the site if you run into problems like this in the future. We read everything that comes through that form and a lot of times the biggest thing preventing us from fixing a problem is not knowing it's effecting people.

xian 4 years, 3 months ago

My mistake. LJ does not yet have the feedback form at the bottom that's standard on our other sites. We are putting that in place now.

KansasPerson 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you SO MUCH for attending to this. I am using IE8 at home right now and have been having exactly the same problem that Alceste and KRichards described. I didn't know it was fixable so I was just putting up with it. :-)

Alceste 4 years, 3 months ago

Just like he said....KRichards....everytime one seeks to read comments "conversation" compatability view......

You know what I'm using off this machine. I don't need to tell you or write it here. I'm busy having fun with my "friends' " new "smart" phones and turning them into walking tv stations: Once the payload is loaded onto the smart phone.....it's a tv station given I simply relay the hookup to a 5watt xmiter......good for about a block or two....hahahahahahahahahahaha

dogsandcats 4 years, 3 months ago

I can't tell if I like it yet. I'm a visual person and now that it looks different I'm all discombobulated. Perhaps I'll get used to it. Does the search feature work yet? I haven't tried it in awhile because it never worked for me.

xian 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't have the exact specifics on me. However I can tell you that it is a combination of number of comments, frequency of comments and time.

DanR 4 years, 3 months ago

Overall, I'll get used to it. The writers/editors do a superb job, and the photographers really make this a great-looking site. Hats off to the web crew too. My nits:

I agree with some others that (since this is the main LJW news page), the "Latest" tab should show ONLY the LJW articles. The icons really do negatively affect the readability of the "Latest" tab list. Making the "L" icon a little more subtle like the other two might help.

As of right now, the latest Lawrence.com content seems to be listed in the wrong order, chronologically.

The "More popular" button at bottom of the "Popular JW" tab is useless. It goes to another link which has the same exact list. Perhaps I'm missing something.

The "More from:" link at the bottom of the "Latest" tab is misleading... it doesn't list more articles, which is what a reader would be expecting. It should say something like "All of Today's Content" or "Full Coverage" ...or something like that. If you could put the archive calendar down there, that'd be super :-)

xian 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you for your feedback. We'll definitely take it into consideration as we work to improve commenting. Allowing users to expand, collapse or even hide all comments by default are things we're thinking about.

However I did want to say that expanding comments doesn't use the network at all so you don't need to worry about expanding them before you leave wifi. Just open the pages you want to see and you'll be good.

bearded_gnome 4 years, 3 months ago

(Jonathan Kealing) replies …

There are things we like and things we dislike about threaded comments. By-and-large, we like more than we dislike, but that doesn't mean we can't change our minds. And we've been reading all the comments about it.

February 3, 2011 at 7:11 p.m.

---okay, so how do I get to adjust your minds Jonathan? I've been protesting the threadedness since it was forced upon us.
please stop it now! is that plain enough?


I agree with Krich and Z-berg, if I wanted to read the wellcommons (liberal) or lawrence.com or kusports I can go there, or you can have a tab for 'most popular/recent' on each of them.
*please return your most popular and most recent defaults featured prominently on your start page to ljworld.com only! as it was before.

the icons and the other articles truly are irritating and they slow my access to the info I am after here.

put up view cams for your site on the Oread Inn! pretty cool?

Blue_Falcon 4 years, 3 months ago

Hello J.K., W.M., and others,

I am a long time lurker. I have yet to find another online newspaper that compares to LJWorld.com. I do not envy your guys’ job of having to read through all of the comments posted to LJWorld.com, but I do happen to enjoy the overall livelihood of the on-line community here. I live in the KC metro area and always check the LJWorld.com headlines first thing every morning.

Keep up the good work!

wmathews 4 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the compliment, Blue_Falcon!

ralphralph 4 years, 3 months ago

I still don't understand the split from 6News. It doesn't make any sense. Made 6News and LJWorld both weaker entities. Sad.

devobrun 4 years, 3 months ago

I don't shop, I buy. When I go to a store, I expect to see stuff where it usually resides. I tell the grocers that a sure way to get me to try the other store is to change theirs. It is the "New Coke" versus "Classic Coke" problem of marketing. By changing a product you will draw in some people who didn't like your previous product, but you will loose old, loyal customers.

Clearly, the hit counter will tell the tale. Now that I have perused your site for a few days....I can say that I don't like the changes. The categories and headings and little icons are busy. I find it harder to find stuff, not easier.

Imposing detailed structure on information is often just cluttering the information. I don't care if a story has an "L", or a "KU", or a coupla green and orange people next to it. Simplify to clarify.
Sophistication is a euphemism for obfuscation.

devobrun 4 years, 2 months ago

No, O phiuch us, I'm a man. Therefore I do.

devobrun 4 years, 2 months ago

And J of the Keelings. I really don't like your changes. They are effeminate. They are "browsy".

They are for folks who want to have images of little icons. This is becoming that which is clearly manipulated by the "popularmeister".

And if an article is yielding 10 entries per hour for 24 hours......and it doesn't look like it meets muster? What is muster? OK, so what are the criteria for entry on the latest....the LJ.....the KU?

Is this real? Or is it revenue? How do we maximize hits.....because hits bring in advertising. And hits are the new reality.

Right, J?

Be careful, J.....most of the denizens of the blogoshpere are male. Are you sure this is a good idea?

ivalueamerica 4 years, 2 months ago

For once, I do not mind the changes, the only issue I have is the same one brought up before, on the third tab, popular, the icons are way to distracting and cluttering.

d_prowess 4 years, 2 months ago

After giving it many days, I will admit to liking have the list of stories include those from the other media outlets. It has caused me to click on some stories I wouldn't have even know about in the past. Nice job.

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