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Some people say that concrete barriers are better than cable barriers because concrete ones are less likely to snag a car and tear at it, injuring the people inside. (?)
Truly, i don't know the answer to that one but The Insurance Institute For Highway Safety probably does know it!
On the question of which kind of barrier is the best, i would trust the opinion of The Insurance Institute For Highway Safety long before i would trust KDOT or The Federal Highway Administrations' opinion, because insurance companies have to pay $ for the fallout from accidents & so they keep track of all of that stuff for $ reasons; where as States & the Federal Government have to invent budgets that the public ( the lowest common denominator here being that of an objecting sociopath, playing the system inside or outside of government ) wants to pay for highway safety.
We get what we've pay for on K10.
That is usually real (?) ...Whatever.
My sympathies to the K10 accident death victims, their loved ones & others injured out there.
First off, speed limits are supposedly set based on the 85th percentile of free flowing cars over a non posted / speed unregulated section of highway, which assumes that 85% of all drivers can figure out in the beginning how fast to safely drive on that section of roadway (while not eating a sandwich, spilling hot coffee on self, arguing with an out of control child or passenger or with a cell phone stuck in their ear discussing whatever amuses them, ha,ha,ha???! )
I guess that if one has to set a speed limit, one must invent something of a system to justify it.
Honestly, most drivers on K-10 set there auto pilots at 5MPH over the limit & call it good; because ....they know...... that they probably won't get a ticket at that speed, which is where the 85th percentile logic begins to fall apart... in plain sight!
None of the 85th percentile stuff accounts for the fact that tires blow out unexpectedly, that some choose excessive speed moving in & out of other cars beyond reason, that deer just appear or that it takes time to react when the unthinkable starts to happen despite ones' best plans for how the day is supposed to work... VS....the public / states' need for speed in getting from here to there....CHEAPLY.., without things going wrong out of the true blue...whatever?!
Cables are a MUST HAVE on K10 because & innocent driver who doesn't loose control of their car shouldn't be randomly sentenced to death, paralysis for life / medical disaster, go medically bankrupt or have a major loss of family because, for whatever reason, somebody else does a cross over and hits them.
Earthquakes don't kill most people that die in them.
It's poorly considered & constructed buildings that do the murders!
K10 crossover accidents are just like gravity woking on buildings that were built in a quake zone without the obvious notice of their locations.
Just as old buildings are retrofitted in quake zones, so K10 needs a retrofit with barriers.
More arbitrary government decisions. The punishment has no proportionality to the infraction. This is on top of arbitrary times of enforcement and arbitrary decisions about which infractions to focus on and which to ignore.
Ain't government grand?
I would be interested to see the rate of fatal accidents on K10 compared to similar highways, in terms of speed, usage, etc., across the country. K10 is a busy road and traffic accidents happen. Technically all traffic deaths are preventable because of the option not to travel by car or at that time on that day or so on. I think that the barriers are going to cause more damage and injuries than just leaving the median open. That is an opinion that I think will be validated after they put them up. I drive K10 a few times a week at peak traffic times and the biggest problems are slow drivers in the passing lane, which violates traffic law, and drivers on cell phones, and most times a combination of both. I also drive to KC and Topeka on I70 often and rarely see the same types of problems, especially where there are three lanes. I truly have compassion for those that have lost loved ones in traffic accidents, as I have. I guess I am either lazy or accept the fact that accidents happen and have no plans to crusade against telephone poles like the one that took my best friend 11 years ago.
I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn’t work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness
PUT UP THE CABLES. FINES WON'T SAVE LIVES, JUST PAD THE COFFERS.
None of the horrific accidents that I heard about in 2011 were caused by speeders.
The little kid was killed by an impaired driver.
Two terrible wrecks were caused by trailers not properly attached.
And the worst was a head-on caused by a wrong way driver.
Speed is not the issue. I wish cops would watch for and fine inattentive drivers. Like the drivers that have reading material propped up on their steering wheels. Believe it or not, I commonly see this in my daily commute on K10.
If you see that someone is driving intoxicated or otherwise dangerously it's one of your smartest decisions to take caution first and maybe one of your most important responsibilities to notify the police second.
Enforce the speed limit excessively, rigidly, consistently. After the third infraction and loss of license there will be fewer violators to pull over. Don't worry about the amount of the fines as it seems some folks have very deep pockets. Take their license and then incarcerate them when driving without one.
"...and go really fast if someone pisses me off..."
In other news, babboy drives 90 mph 24/7 & currently 57% of poll respondants speed on Highway 10.
I'm sure you could talk your way out of the ticket by offering the officer KU tickets.
Sure double the fines but triple the enforcement! You see an officer with someone stopped that automatically means it's safe to bump your speed even higher.
rather than paying to fix the problem they will get paid to say they are saving lives. good deal they have going, kind of like the person who gets paid to test ice cream or the dude who pulls a check sampling beer.
Oh yeah, all while eating a hamberger, reading Hustler mag, and texting on my cell phone.......
I could care less if they double the ticket.
I am going to drive my same 5 over and go really fast if someone pisses me off......
You are forgetting that attribution thing again, merrill. Plagiarism is killing the planet.
Speed Kills - The faster the speed of a vehicle, the greater the risk of an accident. The forces experienced by the human body in a collision increase exponentially as the speed increases. Smart Motorist recommends that drivers observe our 3 second rule in everyday traffic, no matter what your speed.
Traffic engineers and local governments have determined the maximum speeds allowable for safe travel on the nation's roadways. Speeding is a deliberate and calculated behavior where the driver knows the risk but ignores the danger. Fully 90% of all licensed drivers speed at some point in their driving career; 75% admit to committing this offense regularly.
Consider this example: a pedestrian walks out in front of a car. If the car is traveling at just 30 mph, and the driver brakes when the pedestrian is 45 feet away, there will be enough space in which to stop without hitting the pedestrian. Increase the vehicle speed by just 5 mph and the situation changes dramatically. At 35 mph, with the pedestrian 45 feet away and the driver braking at the same point, the car will be traveling at 18 mph when it hits the pedestrian. An impact at 18 mph can seriously injure or even kill the pedestrian.
Who are the bad drivers? They are young, middle-aged, and old; men and women; they drive luxury cars, sports cars, SUVs and family cars. Almost every qualified driver I know admits to some type of risky driving behavior, most commonly speeding.
Aggressive Drivers - As we've described, modern cars are manufactured to very safe standards, and the environment they're driven in is engineered to minimize the injuries suffered during an accident. The most difficult area to change is aggressive driver behavior and selfish attitudes.
Speed traps cannot be created if drivers are not speeding....
Most common cause of accidents;
Ticket the yahoos who drive the whole way in the left lane.
No, because it doesn't fix anything. Even though the majority of common folks oppose this, the idiots in Topeka will pass it anyways...
Without enforcement,the laws and fines don't mean diddly.
How about making texting while driving a DUI offense, and double the DUI fine along this stretch. All this current law will do is create speed traps.
Speeding has nothing to do with the real problem. It won't affect the sleepy, drunk/under the influence, or distracted drivers that are the problem. It is those driver's vehicles which cross the median and cause fatalities.
I love those signs that threaten a $10,000 fine for hitting a worker. You kill or maim someone with your car and a $10,000 fine is the least of your legal/financial worries. Geniuses.
Solve the real problem.
Never had any problems on Highway 10. What gives ?
The problem with K10 is it was not built right. The median needs to be deeper to direct crossing traffic more in line with the roadway. I had a flat tire with a semi on that hiway and the way it is built it pulls you into the other lane. Just look at I 70 west of topeka.
It won't fix stupid. But hey, I'm a slow poke so I dont care.
Yah, write 'em up. If they work it half as hard as they do 59 hyway south of town, things will slow down a little. Not much, but a little. At least folks will be more aware simply because they're lookin' for cops. It'll help some.
Unfortunately, the only thing that will probably do any good is lowering the speed limit.
It won't solve the problem. They will just treat it as a lucrative revenue producing speed trap. People need to obey the law. It is a race track out there. How well did that double fine thing work in the construction zones on Kasold and out on 6th by St. Margaret's?. Didn't slow it down but produced hundreds of tickets - even on non-work days.
What's the point? When an officer has someone stopped , the next driver speeds right on by.
I would divide the lanes and have bumper to bumper traffic. That will slow down the drivers.
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