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Should Lawrence City Commissioners approve an ordinance to make it illegal for long-term campers to set up living quarters in public parking spots in front of South Park?

Response Percent Votes
Yes
 
77% 786
No
 
19% 198
Not sure
 
2% 24
Total 1008

Comments

JackMcKee 2 years ago

look, it's simple. These people are the very reason we have laws. There is always some jerk that if you give an inch, they'll take a mile. This guy is too clever by a half. I'm sure he's been running into this exact same situation his entire life. You know what they say about doing the same thing repeatedly but expecting different results.

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asixbury 2 years ago

Just adjust the ordinance to exclude the parking spots in a certain proximity to schools and playgrounds. I can see why parents would be concerned, even if these men are harmless.

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jonas_opines 2 years ago

No need for an ordinance, just have the city start charging them rent for the use of city property.

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cheeseburger 2 years ago

Get em off Mass. St. and park em in the driveways of deec, asixbury, and debengstrom - problem solved.

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missjai 2 years ago

I don't really care if these guys want to live in a trailer but I don't think they should be able to stay in front of the park, there are children playing and just because these guys aren't pervs doesn't mean there aren't others. Also, why would they even want to park there I mean find somewhere else less obvious cuz clearly people have noticed lol

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Rae Smith Evans 2 years ago

my concern is not that they are on a public street. My concern is that they are staying in front of a park where children are playing. Even if these men are harmless, the next might not be. I have no problem whatsoever with them choosing to live in their trailer parked on the street. The ordinance should limit how close to a park, school, etc that this is allowed. We have to protect children the best that we can.

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Gotalife 2 years ago

WELL, the Yes votes have it! Head em' up, move em' out!! LOL

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Joe Hyde 2 years ago

I voted YES in the poll. The city streets bordering South Park are there to help attract and enable temporary public recreation, not permanent private habitation.

The sort of long term camping that's been conducted by the folks in those trailers at South Park is appropriate only in parks specifically designed and outfitted for that type of use (e.g., Clinton State Park and the federal campgrounds at Clinton Lake).

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asixbury 2 years ago

It does not in any way keep people from enjoying the park. My family from out of town noticed those campers. They did not think anything of it; they were just wondering if there was some event in town that would attract campers. I told them the story behind it; they thought the campers were clever for beating the system.

They are not a nuisance. The one guy in the grey trailer is actually quite entertaining when playing his guitar and singing. The bucket is used for donations, by the way. I asked. The guy is not so scary when you view him as just another human.

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Liberal 2 years ago

Can you leave a RV, trailer or boat in your yard in Lawrence? How about a broke down car?

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Richard Heckler 2 years ago

An RV is an eyesore? Says who? By what standards?

Some SUV's are downright ugly according to my standards and take up way too much space. In fact backing out of a downtown parking space has become a threat to safety because I cannot see through those monsters.

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Richard Heckler 2 years ago

These campers must pay taxes after all they own vehicles and they probably generate sales taxes with their spending.

And they are not at this location 24/7. There is a local ordinance that prevents any vehicle from parking on any public street more than 48 or 72 hours without being moved. Be careful what one wishes for...

What if a 2-4 RV Senior Citizen motorcade wants to stop over for a few days near the park, which is not unusual, shall we chase them off as well? Seniors love their homes on wheels as they move from climate to climate.

In reality who are they bothering? I suggest they new shiny Airstreams and Winnebagos that will beautify Lawrence.

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prairie_girl 2 years ago

I have no problem with these two men parking their RV's and living in them. However, I do think they could park them someplace besides in front of the park on one of our main streets. Are their no vacant lots in town they can park in? Maybe even the lake? They both must receive some kind of income and get it at a PO box since they have no street address.

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juma 2 years ago

Puleeezzze. Homeless??!!! I lived in Somalia for over 20 years. You want to see 'homeless' go there. I have NO time for these 'wannabes' here in the middle of America; move out and/or pay tax!!!

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grammarrodeo 2 years ago

If nothing else, please write an ordinance against the poo bucket. That's just sound public policy regardless of party affiliation or absurd fringe ideology.

While we're voting I'd think we could look at ordinances in other cities that won't allow RV owners (or big rig owners) to park their RV on their own property without it being garaged or behind a fence. That doesn't just target the free-riders but everyone with an enormous eyesore vehicle parked on our public streets.

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booyalab 2 years ago

Get rid of public property and it won't be an issue.

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none2 2 years ago

It is amazing that they want to mandate that two individuals must spend spend more money on just existing (shelter) by forcing them to either leave, go to KOA, buy or rent a house, etc. In essence making government raise the cost of living for these men.

However, if you raised the cost of living for all these complainers (such as requiring that they have at least minimal health insurance) so that they wouldn't be a burden to the rest of us who do have health insurance and can pay our health bills, people would come out of the wood work as to how it is wrong to create mandates that affect affect their pocket books.

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gccs14r 2 years ago

We have a KOA. No need to permit streetside camping. And what are these guys claiming as a permanent address for vehicle registration, insurance, and driver's license? And is the trailer tagged? Any trailer with a GWR over 2,000 lbs. has to be tagged.

The problem with helping the homeless is that if you're too good at it, homeless folks from other cities will migrate to yours. The last thing we need is for 60-70 vehicles to show up every summer and take all the long-term spots downtown. And what's currently an eyesore and minor sanitation problem will quickly morph into a major health hazard with rivers of excrement running down the gutters.

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3up3down 2 years ago

I like the parking meter ideas. Use the money, buy them a one way bus fare out of Dodge. Time to clean up the City before it becomes a huge slum with portable shanties on wheels parked where ever.

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Kendall Simmons 2 years ago

Sorry, but I don't think the City owes it to anyone to provide mobile home lots on city streets. Not even if they're homeless. Not even if they're disabled veterans. Not even if they show ingenuity.

(As an aside, shouldn't the disabled vet be receiving disability benefits? If he is, that would give him significantly more financial resources than a lot of homeless folks I know have.)

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Richard Ballard 2 years ago

A bum by any other name smells as sweet. So does a bucket of human waste setting in the street next to a historic park.

It's about time the city fixed this unsanitary eyesore once and for all.

rc

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RoeDapple 2 years ago

We need our government to regulate every heartbeat, every breath, every thought. Otherwise how will we live up to their higher standards?

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Randall Barnes 2 years ago

who and what are they hurting ? no one and nothing. just a waste of tax payers money even thinking about an ordinance.

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CLARKKENT 2 years ago

of course they should.

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deec 2 years ago

The city has nothing better to do than write an ordinance targeting two people, one of whom is a disabled veteran. Nice.

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pace 2 years ago

Pretty soon it will be against the law for homeless families to live in their car. I hate to see all the law against the homeless, don't offer food, don't let them sit or stand. If the law applied to all, then they would be more careful with their law but it isn't applied to all . It is an old old story, making being poor against the law.

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