Previous poll Next poll
Should those with a license to carry a concealed weapon be allowed to posses the gun if they have been drinking alcohol?
| Response | Percent | Votes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| No | 61% | 767 | |
| Yes | 35% | 438 | |
| Not sure | 3% | 43 | |
| Total | 1248 | ||
Marketplace
Arts & Entertainment · Bars · Theatres · Restaurants · Coffeehouses · Libraries · Antiques · Services
- New law seen as way to increase independence for those with disabilities May 29, 2012 · 6 comments
- National group seeks repeal of 'Stand Your Ground' law in Kansas May 27, 2012 · 164 comments
- Town Talk: UPDATE: Frank Male files for county commission; keep an ear open for local sales tax talk; city hires new city engineer; wholesale water district buys land near Kaw; weekly land transfers May 29, 2012 · 8 comments
- Kansas tax act most regressive in nation May 27, 2012 · 275 comments
- U.S. military sees new appreciation May 28, 2012 · 45 comments
- Blog: Iranian Nuclear Energy: Will It Destroy Lives Or Save Them? May 29, 2012 · 2 comments
- God, marriage May 25, 2012 · 200 comments
- Tax gamble May 26, 2012 · 93 comments
- Remove politics, and redistricting map falls in line May 27, 2012 · 52 comments
- Sound Off: How much does the city’s transit system collect in fares compared with how much it costs May 27, 2012 · 136 comments
- Kansas tax act most regressive in nation May 27, 2012
- Thread of pain ran through Jackson’s career June 28, 2009
- Friends mourn Lynn Bretz, former voice of KU May 28, 2012
- Hilltop executive director Pat Pisani stepping down May 28, 2012
- Town Talk: UPDATE: Frank Male files for county commission; keep an ear open for local sales tax talk; city hires new city engineer; wholesale water district buys land near Kaw; weekly land transfers May 29, 2012
- How to help: Guides needed for Lamplight Tour of Black Jack Battlefield and Nature Park May 27, 2012
- Library kicks off reading program May 27, 2012
- City, county mull upgrade to emergency radio system May 28, 2012
- Tax gamble May 26, 2012
- Hard-luck loss: Blue Valley West walk-off sends Lawrence High baseball home in pitchers’ duel May 26, 2012
Comments
LJWorld.com doesn’t necessarily condone the comments here, nor does it review every post. Read our full policy. Also, read about banned accounts and harassing comments.
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) says…
Answered not sure.
I understand the reasons for not allowing it. But in the context of the question define "drinking alcohol".
If I have one beer while grilling some steaks, is that considered drinking? How about an hour later, with no more alcohol consumed? Am I still to be considered drinking?
Going to the bar and planning on getting faced. Sure... common sense dictates that if I'm purposely putting myself into an inebriated state that I should not be handling firearms.
But casually sipping on a cocktail or beer over the span of hours, where you stay well below legal limits should be factored in. In those cases I see no harm.
Did_I_say_that (DIST) replies…
I wish these polls were linked to the story that inspired them.
To the question: I find myself agreeing with Jesse. Not sure, it depends on the situation and location. State law already prohibits a CCH licensee from carrying in a bar or other known nuisance. The law also defines 0.08 as the legal blood alcohol content which is the same limit for DUI.
artichokeheart (anonymous) replies…
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jul...
Did_I_say_that (DIST) replies…
Thanks, but when I had posted early a.m. the associated story was not on the radar screen. I would still like to see a link to the story.
grammaddy (anonymous) replies…
Who "sips on a cocktail beer over the span of hours"?
KS (anonymous) says…
Take it away until they are sober and then give it back. Same thing they would do with a car. The police do not allow you to drive it home if stopped and found to be DUI.
overthemoon (anonymous) replies…
who gets shot when in this interchange?
dulcinea47 (anonymous) says…
Does this question even really need to be asked? Seriously?
Gootsie (anonymous) replies…
my thought completely!
WHY (anonymous) replies…
Yes it definitely must be asked. The anti drug, conservative, gun toting nuts love their alcohol (which is a mind altering drug). Then they get in fights over whose cousin did who and then the gunfire begins.
purplesage (anonymous) says…
If one is drinking alcohol, should they get into an automobile, try to drive, and crash into an innocent motorist? They do. And drunks will carry and, with impaired judgment, use guns. Alcohol is the problem.
overthemoon (anonymous) replies…
Or people. Get rid of them varmints and guns and alcohol are perfectly safe!
Kontum1972 (anonymous) says…
hmmm...does an M-60 no buttstock in a golf bag with wheels count?
The_Original_Bob (anonymous) says…
Can someone provide the link that shows instances of gun violence by C&C permit holders? Thank you in advance for your hours long search.
geekin_topekan (anonymous) says…
"Curly Bill!! Easy now, hand over those guns..."
"Ah Pa! I'm just funnin'. I feel just...capital!"
artichokeheart (anonymous) says…
Who is going to enforce such a thing? Where will the manpower come from to do so?
countrygirl (anonymous) replies…
I was wondering the same thing.
Disk2Legacy (anonymous) says…
I agree with Vertigo.
Liberty_One (anonymous) says…
The real question should be whether the state has the power to allow or not allow someone to have a gun. If it does have this power, where did it come from?
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
What about a bazooka? Anti-aircraft gun? Nuclear weapon?
I mean, if you are going to go all out, why not go all the way? An Army of One, Each to His Own -- isn't that your motto?
Liberty_One (anonymous) replies…
No, surely we should set aside a small group of people and let them have all the weapons and power. That's a good idea, right?
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
If your argument is that states don't have the right to limit access to guns, where do states have the rights to limit access to any form of weapon? Do they have the right to make reasonable limits or don't they?
Liberty_One (anonymous) replies…
The states get their rights from the people. If I don't have the right to do something then the government doesn't either. So, how much power do I have to tell you what you can and can't own?
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
Depends on how many people you can get to think like you, I guess. If you want a law passed, gather signatures, get it on the ballot, then vote.
Liberty_One (anonymous) replies…
No no, you're not understanding this. I have the power to kick you out of my house if I don't like you. That has nothing to do with whether anyone else agrees with me or not. It's my property and I can exclude you from it. I can also have the government do it for me by having a police officer come and remove you from my property. But the state only has that right because I do. I do not have the right to take your possessions, and neither could I call the police and have them take them for me.
Now if you want to own a pig farm next door to me, I have the right to stop you because that would infringe upon my quite enjoyment of my property. Or I can have a court order you to desist the nuisance. Again, it has nothing to do with whether anyone agrees or not, I have that right and thus I can hand over that right to the state to enforce it for me.
The government is just people, and they have no powers to do anything that I don't have. We give the government these powers to enforce our rights for us. We cannot give the government a power we don't have (of course that hasn't stopped governments from taking powers it shouldn't).
Regardless, whatever power I have to personally tell you what you can and can't own is the same power the government has because the government derives its powers from the people. So you tell me, what power do I have over you?
SFBayhawk (anonymous) says…
Alcohol will delude these guys into thinking they're really carrying something in their pants besides lint.
CWGOKU (anonymous) says…
If they've been drinking, they aren't gonna hit anything
Oh, and ditto to artichoke
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
Except they might hit the innocent bystander 100 yards away.
sierraclub (anonymous) says…
Yeah, really, how many crimes have been committed by a person who has a C&C permit? Please give me a close estimate. anyone, anyone, anyone.....Bueller???? We should really tell the criminals that if they are drinking, they need to put the gun away.....gee......
filapino (anonymous) says…
Wow...
kosmo513 (anonymous) says…
I love the way the legislature is doing this. We are incrementally heading towards what some other states have. Open carry and no need for a permit. That is exactly what was intended with the Second Amendment, and I love it. It is what I have spent most of my life as an NRA Life Endowment Member working towards.
50YearResident (anonymous) replies…
Well, as the law is now you can open carry in Kansas without a permit as long as you are not a felon or restricted by some other lawful reason. However I think you will meet with so much scrutinty when you do by people you pass on the street and all law enforcement officers that you will soon find it undesireable to do.
RogueThrill (anonymous) replies…
But you also won't be jumped by any "thugs."
autie (anonymous) says…
Whadda you lookin at? Draw.
autie (anonymous) says…
an like my cousins says, "nothin says fun like a cooler full of cold beer and plenty of bullets"...that's what my cousins said anyway.....beer...bullets..= fun.
tuschkahouma (anonymous) says…
nothing like a drunk person aiming and singing "Give me back my bullet"...
wow, what a dumb state I'm surrounded by. And yes I own guns, passed
hunters safety when I was 11, and am the son of a gun collecter and we are
both democrats who want nothing to do with the NRA end of the world stock up
and freak out facist crowd.
HaRDNoK9 (anonymous) says…
I voted yes. I don't think that alcohol consumption makes me more likely to use a weapon against someone. I wouldn't even consider firing my weapon on another human being unless my life or the life of my family were in danger. If I was in a situation where my life was in danger, do I lose the right to defend it because I have had a drink? I guess mine is the perspective of a responsible adult who places a lot of value on human life. I also am not the type to put myself in situations where my life could be put in any increased risk. Incidentally, I do have a concealed carry license, but I do not carry if I am out for a night on the town. Why would I?
I realize that my philosophy may be the exception and not the rule, but my right to concealed carry is not synonymous with my right to use deadly force. In fact, I cannot think of one situation where discharging my weapon in public would be appropriate regardless of any life threatening situation I might find myself in, and I'm pretty sure that due process would bear that out as well.
50YearResident (anonymous) says…
This poll is worthless with the limited choices.
There should be this choice:
0 - Should a license holder be able to carry their gun after drinking a moderate amount of alcohol as long as they are within the legal limits?
sierraclub (anonymous) says…
Anyone have the number of C&C owners who have committed a crime with a gun?? Okay, here is an easy one....can anyone tell me the number of crimes committed by people who are not allowed to carry a gun?? anyone....Bueller....lol.....I sure am glad that we have a sign up in our office building that says no to people who are carrying a gun.....I am sure that a criminal will put the gun outside before they enter......gee....
yankeevet (anonymous) says…
not sure
Guardian (anonymous) says…
This poll and the related story is much ado about nothing. Maybe the law was changed because there were relatively few problems with that to begin with. As a rule, people who are responsible enough to take the course and go through the background check to get a license are quite probably not the ones you progressive elitists need to worry about. On the other hand, the poor misunderstood products of their environments who are not responsible for their actions because they never had a proper family life who choose to carry guns illegally anyway, yeah you should worry. But then, that's a different issue.
independant1 (anonymous) says…
maybe I missed some post but worth adding -
do you pack at happy hour/cocktail hour/while bar hopping?
independant1 (anonymous) replies…
weddings/funerals/baptisms
independant1 (anonymous) replies…
football/baseball/basketball games
independant1 (anonymous) says…
city commision meetings/political rallys/CYO dances?
independant1 (anonymous) says…
I always take my gun home after my third drink. Wouldn't be prudent.