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Should marijuana be legalized?

Response Percent Votes
Yes
 
71% 1500
No
 
17% 365
Yes, but only for medical purposes
 
9% 204
Not sure
 
1% 41
Total 2110

Comments

kantubek 5 years, 2 months ago

Yes.

Stop this endless drug war, and utilize the economic benefits of hemp, and marijuana alike.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

It's really great to see such a majority in favor of this effort. The laws surrounding cannabis are seated in racism and corporate greed. It's time that the government gives up this charade; this war on Americans. We tax payers are spending billions each year on a broken system where the only people who are better off are the drug cartel kingpins. Why is the government hellbent on continuing this farce?

sourpuss 5 years, 2 months ago

Sell it in corner stores, tax it like cigs, make it illegal to drive or operate heavy machinery while high. Mostly it comes from me not caring what someone does. Why are the same people who hate the government building roads and maintaining a military for them the first to let the government tell them what they can do with their bodies?

rabb 5 years, 2 months ago

Interesting. Wrong, but interesting.

parrothead8 5 years, 2 months ago

You claim that it will still be illegal to grow and consume personally because Big Tobacco will want to monopolize the sales, but the products Big Tobacco sell now are not illegal to grow and consume personally. There's no precedent for your claim.

It's so easy to get now that anyone who wants to smoke it does. I seriously doubt a bunch of people will decide to smoke weed just because it's legal, and the people who smoke it now aren't typically out harming society.

Quite simply, your arguments hold no bong water.

FW 5 years, 2 months ago

What "health care cost" are you referring to exactly? The cost of being able to use a NATURAL, ORGANIC and SAFE alternative to Vicadin, Loratab, and Oxycontin. Controlled substances used for pain such as the ones just mention cause way more damage than marijuana ever will. I have worked in a pharmacy and will never take any controlled narcotic based on the knowledge I learned while working in that environment.

There is no way anyone could take the amount needed of these artificial substances to block out pain without remaining unaffected negatively, in both the short tern and long-term. Whereas on the other hand, if Kansas were to legalize medical marijuana dispensaries people would be able to relive pain naturally and organically without any added substances. What is planted is what is used. No more.

The ONLY harm marijuana causes is the smoke damage, A vaporizer eliminates all danger of inhaling smoke. If the idea of smoking from a vaporizer isn't for you, eating weed is just as efficient if not more. :)

cowboy 5 years, 2 months ago

If tomatoes were illegal would there be tomato cartels ? I don't smoke it but see little reason for it to be illegal. If you truly believe it should be illegal you should also support the total prohibition of alcohol. Legalize it , tax any commercially sold product , let home growers grow thier own , release any one in jail on marijauna offenses , purge any marijauna convictions from criminal records.

Jcjayhawk1 5 years, 2 months ago

Health concerns can be addressed 2 ways. Get a vaporizer which eliminates all hazardous elements. Also, you can grind it up and bake it.

Health problem solved.

gatekeeper 5 years, 2 months ago

Pot heads won't be screaming. Will just pay the tax just like when alcohol is sold.

Liberty275 5 years, 2 months ago

All drugs should be legalized. Further, anything you want to do with your body that doesn't violate the rights of others should be legalized.

Shane Garrett 5 years, 2 months ago

Take foreign drug runners and cartel out of business. Keep U.S. tax payers from paying $$$ for a war on drugs that is not working. Legal pot would generate revenue. Yeah, we might have a few more potheads. But, not every pothead is unproductive.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

it has lots to do with the alcohol industry. big alcohol pays millions in lobbying efforts to congress. Also big tobacco and pharmaceuticals all have a say in prohibition.

somedude20 5 years, 2 months ago

if it were not for pot, places like Taco Bell, Spangles and Pizza Hut would not be around as one must be high to eat that garbage

happy 420 day!

Liberty275 5 years, 2 months ago

I always wondered how 420chan got its name.

ivalueamerica 5 years, 2 months ago

It is the exact same result of Prohabition.

It does not stop production and distribution, it just puts it in the hands of crime and takes out of the tax coffers.

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 2 months ago

I would like to see a study done to determine what effect legalization of marijuana would have on the drug cartels. I would like to know if we are in the same situation as we had during prohibition in which there was no choice but to legalize alcohol in order to stop organized crime.

This is the ONLY reason I would consider legalizing marijuana except for medical use.

Marijuana is just as bad as alcohol. It is not going to make our society or your life better.

BadAssterson 5 years, 2 months ago

"Marijuana is just as bad as alcohol."??? In what ways?

Or did you mean it is just as bad ass as alcohol? I would disagree with this too but at least it would be a positive statement.

gatekeeper 5 years, 2 months ago

It would have a large effect. Lots of pot gets run over the border. Lots of deaths because of it. They also grow in the parks and forests in California. I'm in CA a lot and it sucks that it's now dangerous to go on hikes in the Angeles Forest and other natl parks because if you get to close to a growing operation, you'll be killed. We spend big bucks battling the cartel growers in CA. They're using chemical fertilizers that are harming the parks (getting into the water supply) and have armed militias of illegal Mexicans working the crops and guarding them. As you'll see from the attached Time article, they're also the cause of some of the wildfires out there.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1917547,00.html

Kirk Larson 5 years, 2 months ago

Right, and legalizing would put a stop to all that. It would be grown legally on licensed farms or in people's homes.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

p>saferchoice.org http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/1127/9/

have yourself a read. the book is free to download today only!

gsxr600 5 years, 2 months ago

I dun kno bout dat reefer madness. If it becomes the legal, aint everyone gon dun go killins people? Marijewana makes evri 1 go mad like teh rabies.

asbury 5 years, 2 months ago

Yes. It should be legalized. And no, I do not now, nor have I ever been a user.

whats_going_on 5 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if, by legalizing it, it wouldn't become as unique and "cool" to do. Potheads don't care if it's illegal, but I bet if weren't, it would lose it's rebellious nature and they'd either stop or move on to other drugs. Not all, of course, but I feel like a lot of people (especially kids/students) do it because it's taboo.

JRS 5 years, 2 months ago

I'm not saying that that isn't the reason that some people may smoke it, but I have never know anyone to smoke pot beacuse it is illeagal and/or 'taboo'. Not even when I was in High School. To be perfectly honest, I don't think it's even that taboo, you just don't want to get caught by the law. (ps I don't smoke)

Liberty275 5 years, 2 months ago

I never smoked it because it was illegal, I did it so I could understand some of Sgt Peppers.

acg 5 years, 2 months ago

Of course it should be legalized. First of all the industrial uses of the hemp plant are vast. Hemp grows relatively quickly and can almost do away with our need to deforest so much of our world. The medicinal uses of pot are many. The recreational uses of pot are also many. The taxes this country could make off of this product could go a long way to helping us solve a lot of problems. And when it comes down to it, why can't we smoke this plant that comes from the dirt (pot), but we can smoke this other plant that comes from the dirt (ciggies) after the tobacco companies put an addition 3000 or more chemicals into the product that causes it to be caustic and poisonous to the human body? It's so hypocritical!! And as for it losing it's rebelious nature, as what'sgoingon referred to, I believe in a generation that is exactly what would happen. The teens in Amsterdam largely don't smoke marijuana, because it's a part of life and not taboo. Mother's Rule says a teenager will usually try to do what the establishment tells them they cannot do.

Richard Payton 5 years, 2 months ago

Would legalization cause more munchies? Would this make Lawrence's streets safer? Could we place a THC tax on the joints? Would more people go on welfare? Is California's budget better because of legalization of marijuana? Would Doctors write scripts to everyone if legal just to make more money? Just a few questions I have that I wonder about.

ivalueamerica 5 years, 2 months ago

http://www.boe.ca.gov/legdiv/pdf/fiscal_impact_legalization_marijuana.pdf

The BOE of California expects to earn between 1 and 1.4 Billion Dollars if they legalize marijuana.

Currently, they do tax on some level Medical Marijuana and have on some level since 2005, but only recently have made it a formal tax line item so there are no statistics as to how much Revenue they generate just from medical Marijuana sales.

The city of Oakland has a city tax on medical marijuana and brings in about 2 million dollars a year.

Ricky_Vaughn 5 years, 2 months ago

I think a lot of people would actually stop smoking if it were legal...why smoke and hurt your lungs when you could pick up some delicious cookies...mmm

Mike Hatch 5 years, 2 months ago

If you haven't seen this before, it's pretty funny. Sorry, couldn't find part 1.

werekoala 5 years, 2 months ago

Yeah just had a conversation with my middle-schooler about this recently. Told him that it's illegal, and unsafe to operate heavy machinery on, and can be demotivational in general, especially for teenagers.

But all in all, I'd rather have him sitting around watching movies and smoking pot with his friends than going to underage drinking parties and driving or being driven by a drunk.

I certainly don't think there is any evidence that it's any worse for consenting adults to consume than alcohol, and any "small-government" conservative worth his Tea Bags would have to conceed that a relatively innocuous weed is the focus of so much law enforcement and financial resources is classic Big Government paternalism and should be ended. I'm tired of hearing about child molesters and other actual criminals being let out early because our jails are crowded with mandatory-minimum nonviolent drug offenders.

/That said, I'll still come down on my boy like a sack of bricks if I catch him at it... someone's got to teach him about the 11th Commandment!

Jcjayhawk1 5 years, 2 months ago

Alcohol kills 250K people a year. Lets propose prohibition of alcohol and watch the politicians squirm.

Gateway drug? Not true. Cigarettes and Alcohol are the true gateway drugs....oh forgot about prescribed drugs as well.

verity 5 years, 2 months ago

marijuana = silly

alcohol = silly and/or violent and stupid

I'll take silly any day. Just give them some munchies and tell them to sit in a corner---just remember to tell them when they can leave the corner or they might be there until next Christmas.

Jay Keffer 5 years, 2 months ago

Legalize it and how will you keep it out of the hands of kids? So much more of a draw (pun intended) than cigs. Probably will be more sought after than alcohol. A whole new generation of pot smokers. Pot smoking will go up, way up. Is that the desired end result?

Yes, some kids get it today. But just wait until it is legal for the 18+ crowd. NO WAY you will keep away from underage users. Alcohol abuse will most likely not decline, so now you have two problems.

You want your kids using this stuff? Legalize it and they will. Watch the impact on families, school dropout rates, etc. You can't say it won't have a negative impact, only question is, how much.

kantubek 5 years, 2 months ago

I whole heartedly disagree.

These 'kids' you speak of already have easy access to marijuana, legalizing it at 18 or 21 will not change the availability. It is an innate human drive to seek altered states of consciousness, would you rather alcohol abuse be more prevalent amongst teenagers? Tell me which is more destructive and I will choose the safer choice every time.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

how do you keep it out of the hands of kids now? with prohibition? how's that working out? 4 out of 5 high school kids say that they knew where they could acquire marijuana at any given moment. Wouldn't a regulated market provide better protection? Most kids say that alcohol and cigarettes are harder to obtain because they are regulated and require ID to purchase. Yes there will still be the occasional older guy who will purchase it for them, but the numbers go way down with regulation.

In places like Holland where marijuana has enjoyed a pseudo legalization for several years; there are fewer teens using marijuana than here in the US.

Kirk Larson 5 years, 2 months ago

You don't see liquor store owners pushing beer at the playground, do you? If it could only be bought at licensed outlets with an ID that would make it less available to kids. Yeah, I know friend's big brothers buy them beer, but you can still put a penalty on that, too.

Jaylee 5 years, 2 months ago

First time I was offered marijuana was in 3rd grade. Pretty sure it was illegal back in the 90s as well so I guess that at least slightly debunks your first argument. I had the sense to say no at that early of an age and continued saying no until I was in college and tried it.

It was evidently apparent that 90+% of the people I knew used or had tried it and having seen it for over ten years of my life, I knew it to affect some more than others, but mostly noted that for most, they could function etc. better than any people I had seen on alcohol and I hardly knew anyone who hadnt tried that.

Kids can get anything they want unless you home school them and never let them play with other kids without your supervision.

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 2 months ago

Then the kansas Taliban would not be able to do the mean stuff they do to people

Alexander Neighbors 5 years, 2 months ago

There is already a bill that is being voted on soon in the Kansas legislature

somedude20 5 years, 2 months ago

I just saw that Kal Penn ( the dude who played the stoner Kumar) got mugged on 4/20. He quit acting to go work in D.C. a year ago or so it seems like he may not be famous enough to get arrested but he still famous enough to still get robbed

O'Doyle rules

OwlHead 5 years, 2 months ago

Home SLice. I guarantee you there is easier access to Marijuana, Cocaine , X, and LSD in our middle schools and high schools than anywhere else. I was in a very nice high school just about a decade ago and drugs were rampant and easily accessible, I am sure that has not changed.

What's this new stuff?? Cheez? Flavored Heroin....sounds great, maybe we should put that on popsicle sticks so kids can ingest easier!!

Legalizing Hemp would make our cloths, meat, paper and probably almost all consumer products go down in price. You can build houses with it..Sounds like a no brainer. The paper and cotton industry were major players in outlawing Hemp.

I would love to see a debate on why/why not hemp should be legalized. I don't think there would be much of an argument.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

40 years since Nixon ignored the Schaffer Report that he commissioned. 1 Trillion dollars. 20 Million Americans arrested. Marijuana is stronger and more available than ever before in this country.
But on the upside, we have a huge bureaucracy that wastes billions in tax payer dollars every single year. This doesn't account for the lost economic value or social value that comes with arresting over 800,000 people last year alone. land of the free? whatever.

Deja Coffin 5 years, 2 months ago

But then what would the honk for hemp guy do....... oh yeah, never mind. Well if they legalize it I better make sure to invest in some stock in Frosted Flakes and Cheetos..... maybe Spaghetti O's

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 2 months ago

Alcohol is a causative and/or contributing factor to a tremendous number of cases of spousal and child abuse. Other than possibly arguing over the cost of it, marijuana, alone and without the added influence of alcohol, makes almost no contribution to abuse. I defy anybody to become abusive on pot. Dude, you can barely get off the couch and stop giggling long enough to seriously hit somebody.

Jeremiah Jefferson 5 years, 2 months ago

It should be decriminalized like it already is in other parts of the world. There is no reason someone should have pounds of it. But anything under an ounce should be legal.

Crossfire 5 years, 2 months ago

It should be like home brew... Grow yer own buds... Share it with yer buds...

Jay Keffer 5 years, 2 months ago

Why is this reduced to an either/or choice - which would you rather, pot or alcohol? How about neither? How about that option? Not realistic? Certainly not when you introduce one more drug to tempt kids. They are already irresponsible enough, just add more poor judgment to the mix while your're at it. Dumb.

Alcohol abuse won't go down. Pot use will surely go up, big time. There are an untold number of kids who would try it if it were not illegal. Class it the same as cigs and you will have new users in droves. Making the drug WIDELY available, as cigs are, will increase use - regulation will have the complete opposite effect.

How one can argue that regulation will decrease abuse by kids? Do you have kids? Do you love them? Do you give a rip about them or would you rather burn a joint and lose what conscience you might have? Way to go, Pops.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

so while kids are being irresponsible kids, it's a good idea to let them satisfy their curiosity by visiting a shady character from the black market underworld, who will most likely try to sell them one ore more of the following: cocaine, methamphetamines, pills, heroin, etc.

Or, would it be better to have a regulated market, where the bulk of marijuana would be a regulated product and it would become harder for kids to acquire? I won't say impossible to acquire, but harder (just like alcohol). In recent years, both alcohol and tobacco use is down among kids under 18. The number one reason, age enforcement. number two, education.

Jay Keffer 5 years, 2 months ago

Got kids? Love them? How about protecting them? Forgot, you want to get high instead. So legalize a drug, broaden its use by untold measures so those that seek out drugs regardless will still do the same? Weak.

Harder to aquire if it is legal? BOGUS. It will have the same availability as cigs, with much more attraction. The demand and black market for kids will be out of control. Remember - it's pot.

Weak arguments by a pothead putting his escape from reality ahead of children. Way to go, Pops.

Jay Keffer 5 years, 2 months ago

Are you high right now? Nobody else can have an opinion? I guess not. You expressed yours, I expressed mine. but I am not entitled to mine it appears.

I educate my kids too. Teach them how to deal with life as it comes, and not use a crutch to get out of dealing with the good and the bad.

You go back you to bunker, er, basement, and get lit. Don't tell others how to live. Take your own advice, if you remember what you said in the morning.

Thought you druggies were all about tolerance and live and let live. Unless I disagree with your opinion. Then you get off the couch, wipe the drool off and slur your view on life as if anyone can make sense of your gibberish. Then laugh like a hyena and take another hit. Sleep it off slacker, waste what little money you mooch off the productive class and get tight all over again.

I don't want my tax dollars supporting a low-life that tokes all day. How much money do you drop on pot? How much more will you spend once it is legalized? Think it will be cheaper? Ha! Guess again. You will go broke Spicoli. Aloha, Mr. Hand.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

you really have a skewed POV on what the average cannabis consumer is like. you and notajayhawk should get together and rehash your government propaganda.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

I do have a child. I love her very much. Why would you assume that because I enjoy cannabis on occasion, that I wouldn't love or protect my child? how very holier than thou of you.

what I find interesting; you're assuming that marijuana is so great and enjoyable that throngs of people will flock to pot simply because it's suddenly legal. what that says to me is that the general public knows that the very worst thing about marijuana is the criminal justice. Which as I understand; congress shall make no law where the punishment is deemed more detrimental than the act itself. cannabis consumers aren't violent, however, black market profiteers can be violent. If bacon were illegal, I guarantee there would be gun toting bacon dealers shooting up rival bacon barons.

you should be honest; you have a preconceived notion of what a cannabis user is; and it's against your personal morality to stray from the propaganda that the all powerful government has shoved down your throat for the last 80 years.

Jay Keffer 5 years, 2 months ago

And you don't assume anything about me? I have smoked, I have kids, and I woke up.

Your personal need to get high ignores what this would do to kids.

Who is more important?

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

tell us HomeSlice.. how is the current system doing as far as thinking of the kids; with 4 of 5 high school students saying that they can acquire marijuana easily...? We've tried prohibition your way. now it's time to try something different.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Jay Keffer 5 years, 2 months ago

And your plan is to make it even worse. Outstanding! Couldn't have proved my point any better. Dope(r).

bliddel 5 years, 2 months ago

As I understand it, since the very early years of the previous century, the percentage of the population abusing Marijuana has remained unchanged, despite the original laws banning use, the Anti-Drug policy of 1968, and all of the subsequent US military intervention in central American countries. Billions of tax dollars have been wasted and thousands of lives have been lost fighting a losing war on Marijuana.

Is Marijuana use interstate commerce? I think not, except where the Feds have forced it to be. So, the federal war, no matter how well intentioned, is pretty obviously unconstitutional.

Would I use the product? Never. I hate the smell, and I deplore use of hallucinogenics. That's not the point. However, it would be nice to have alternatives to cotton in our textiles and natural fiber ropes (industrial hemp).

The only concern I still have about legalization is what effect it might have on the percentage of drivers driving vehicles on our public roadways, while under the influence of this hallucinogenic substance. Education would help, but innocent citizens might also die.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

AreUNorml (anonymous) says…

"It's really great to see such a majority in favor of this effort."

Maybe in Lawrence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100420/ap_on_re_us/us_ap_poll_legalizing_marijuana

"In the poll, only 33 percent favor legalization while 55 percent oppose it."

Proving once again how irrelevant the opinion of Larryvillers really is to the rest of America.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

you're right. in Lawrence the totals are elevated. just like they are in California and a growing number of other states. Kansas has always been just a little bit behind the bus on things like this. However, once the truth and real education can get out about what cannabis is and what it isn't, more people will realize that this government war on citizens is nothing but a 20th century corporate welfare gone amok.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 2 months ago

"Kansas has always been just a little bit behind the bus on things like this." I laughed so hard I fell off my chair at this statement. Kansas is more than "just a little bit behind". Having lived, at one time, on both coasts (more so on the West Coast aka "OMG the LEFT Coast!"), Kansas is darn near stuck in the Stone Age in comparison. They actually think the 1950s, Norman Rockwell view of America existed and yearn for it like the Promised Land. Yes, Lawrence is different. We have literally the most cosmopolitan population in the state. People have come from all over the US and a truckload of foreign countries to live here, some temporarily, some to stay. Our demographic is far different from the rest of the state and I've actually heard people say they "didn't expect a tiny piece of San Francisco on the prairie." I sometimes think we in this city lose sight of that and end up being shocked when the rest of the state acts like the Beverly Hillbillies; nice folks but about as sophisticated as a plastic pink flamingo.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

"Yes, Lawrence is different. We have literally the most cosmopolitan population in the state. ... I've actually heard people say they "didn't expect a tiny piece of San Francisco on the prairie." I sometimes think we in this city lose sight of that and end up being shocked when the rest of the state acts like the Beverly Hillbillies; nice folks but about as sophisticated as a plastic pink flamingo."

Could you possibly be any more of an elitist snob?

If you want your little piece of San Francisco, you're welcome to it. Thank God the rest of us can keep it contained, like the toxic waste that it is, in Looneyville.

Cait McKnelly 5 years, 2 months ago

Hahaha!! "Elitist snob", huh? Pot...Kettle...Black comes to mind.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

"However, once the truth and real education can get out about what cannabis is and what it isn't, more people will realize that this government war on citizens is nothing but a 20th century corporate welfare gone amok."

Um, 'kay.

Oh, except marijuana has been around for more than a few years. One might think that the 'truth' might be out by now.

Does that always have to be the fall-back position for liberals: 'If you don't agree with me than you don't understand the issue'?

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

how about doing an ounce of research (beyond what your pee test pamphlet says) on the subject. You should read "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer. It will offer you amazing insight into why cannabis is illegal in this country. It's got NOTHING to do with getting high.

But I know you nota.. you won't read this. you won't even attempt to. the fear of being wrong is powerful isn't it? why is your position that of "if you don't agree with me then you don't understand the issue"?

PS, I'm a libertarian and a fiscal conservative. that means leave my personal choices alone and quit wasting my money on your morality.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

No, you don't know me, buffoon. This subject happens to be rather closely related to what I do for a living. I daresay I know one he** of a lot more about it than you will ever learn from NORML's or LEAP's website or from any other of your pothead propaganda sites. And it's not my morality, pal - the majority of your fellow citizens are against legalizing marijuana. Keep telling yourself that it's only you that knows the truth, and if only all those millions who don't agree with you knew the facts they'd jump on your little bandwagon.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

I will keep telling myself that. the reason being is that as this factual information is shared, the percentage of my fellow citizens who agree with me continues to increase. I'm not asking you to smoke pot. I'm not even asking you to like it. I'm telling you that this is happening, and you are going to have to get over yourself.

and you can tell me that you know sooo much more about marijuana use, but you never tell me anything that I haven't already read, digested and considered. And all along, I continue to tell you fact after fact and you refuse to accept any of it. so tell me something I don't know. impress me. that's a steep challenge, so try hard.

tbaker 5 years, 2 months ago

Legislsative action isn't realistic at this point. What needs to be done now is the DEA changing Marijuana from a schedule 1 drug, to a schedule 3 drug. That would de-criminalize it, i.e. you wouldn't spend time in prison for it, which would save cash-strapped States, courts, and prison systems billions the first year. Taking this step would also drive down the street value becuase people would simply grow their own. This would deprive the drug cartels - currently threatening our souther border - of a substantial portion of their income. The US culture isn't ready to add a third "legal" drug to society quite yet; we have enough trouble with alcohol and tobacco already. Talk of taxing pot and selling it at the corner store is premature. That said, polling favors legalization more every year.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

I think that when enough states and enough politicians break through the fear surrounding cannabis, this house of cards will topple rather quickly. Kansas will not be near the leaders of this revolution, but she will come around. I honestly feel that this is a 5-10 year ambition for a complete repeal of prohibition. However, states like Colorado & Iowa will probably be some of the first in our region to drop this nonsense.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

"I honestly feel that this is a 5-10 year ambition for a complete repeal of prohibition. "

Why does that sound familiar?

Oh, yeah, because I heard the same thing - in the sixties.

And the seventies.

And the eighties ...

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

because there is more information more widely available to more people today than ever before. because the mainstream media has embraced this more in the last 18 months than ever before. because 100 million people in this country have tried marijuana and know that it isn't dangerous, and because there are more groups echoing the truths about cannabis than ever before.

p>MPP.org NORML.org saferchoice.org LEAP.cc (if anything, go to this site. listen to what these ex cops, judges, DA's & other law enforcement have to say about the war on drugs)

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

"because 100 million people in this country have tried marijuana"

And yet most of those aren't still smoking it, are they?

The reason we heard the same sentiment echoed in the 60's, 70's 80's, etc., and yet the pipe-dream still has not come to fruition, is that most of the people that espoused those views in the 60's, 70's, and 80's have grown up.

"LEAP.cc (if anything, go to this site. listen to what these ex cops, judges, DA's & other law enforcement have to say about the war on drugs)"

You're really grasping at straws, aren't you? There is no requiremnt that a person be a cop, judge, DA, or in any other way associated with law enforcement to be a member of LEAP.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition. While there is no requirement to be law enforcement (I'm a member), there are thousands of members who ARE law enforcement. Judge James Gray comes to mind. you can YouTube him if you're too lazy to read. He'll tell you all about his experience as a judge and seeing this mess first hand.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

The schedules refer to certain characteristics of the substance, not how the DEA decides to classify it. Schedule one substances are those with a high capacity for abuse that have no accepted medical use.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

how come the AMA was against the original prohibition in 1937, and also came out in favor of medical marijuana recently? wouldn't that suggest that there is perhaps some accepted medical use? Why does the government allow a drug company to make a pill that is 100% THC, if there is no medical use at all for the cannabis plant? surely the AMA & the FDA can't both be wrong?

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

Weren't there a few crackpot psychiatrists that advocated for using lysurgic acid to expand consciousness? How'd that work out?

If, and when, the AMA can convince the FDA to approve some smoked form of THC for the treatment of any medical condition, then the conditions I mentioned will no longer exist and it will no longer be on schedule one. Not that it's even possible for that to happen.

Are you seriously so obtuse that you think there's no difference between a chemical compound derived or synthesized in laboratory conditions to be ingested orally in controlled dosages and something grown in someone's back yard and is smoked? Seriously?

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

are you so obtuse as to think that you or anyone else has the right to tell me how I ingest anything? You and Congress do NOT own my body. What I find to be useful (that which is not derived from a laboratory by a money hungry chemical lab) for my well being. Whether you agree with it or not, it's MY decision alone. I have my own insurance, I have my own good paying job. I don't need YOU to medicate me your way.

3crookedhearts 5 years, 2 months ago

After 40 years of nonsense, I think we're getting to a point of tolerance in the US where this actually might occur. It's wonderful. And it seems to be the only issue that Liberals and Tea Party members agree upon.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

the hypocrisy is fantastic. you can die from too much caffeine, too much aspirin, too much water. in fact, you can die from just about too much anything that can be bought openly in a store. But you cannot die from consuming too much cannabis. Even the lung cancer argument doesn't have much to stand on, as cannabinoids seem to be offering quite a lot in terms of medical uses, including anti-cancer agents. The mocking of the endocannabinoid system by the dozen or so cannabinoids in marijuana is nothing short of amazing.

Prairielander 5 years, 2 months ago

In 1975, when it seemed like everyone I knew was smoking pot, I figured it was only a matter of time before the pot smokers would age into voters and it would be legalized. But here we are 35 years later. I guess many of my peers must have a higher tolerance for hypocrisy than I do.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

In 1975, when it seemed like everyone I knew was smoking pot, I figured it was only a matter of time before the pot smokers would grow up. But here we are 35 years later. I guess many of my peers must have a higher resistance to adulthood.

Calliope877 5 years, 2 months ago

Just out of curiosity, why is smoking pot considered by some as a juvenile activity? It's as if they equate it to club hopping every night and going to work hung over.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

here we are 35 - 80 years later, still demonizing an extremely useful plant based on the racism and corporate greed from the 1920's & 30's. I've got to give the feds credit.. they really are able to pull the wool right over the average idiots eyes. free your mind, the rest will follow.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

For a so-called libertarian-conservative, you sure spout a lot of the liberal playbook. If nothing else works, accuse someone of racism.

"I've got to give the feds credit.. they really are able to pull the wool right over the average idiots eyes."

So you must be an above-average idiot?

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

If you can't see that the drug war has been an attack on Hispanics and blacks, then you are certainly not seeing beyond the curtain. it was rooted in racism against Mexican migrant workers. in fact the word marijuana was chose for the war because of it's scary exotic name. until then it was called cannabis for a couple thousand years.

But, yes, I am an enlightened human. I am not perfect, and I haven't learned everything yet. However, I have the ability see through most bullsh!t. It's a wonderful gift that nature has provided me. It's also a curse, as I have to sit in this world watching people such as yourself defend asinine laws and rules, while assuming you have the moral high ground. it really is stressful. so I like to alleviate that through natural means.

Stuart Evans 5 years, 2 months ago

Tell me Notajayhawk.. What would you change about the current war on drugs as is being waged by the United States Government. really think it through. I would like a comprehensive idea of what is being done right, or what you could do better. please.

kernal 5 years, 2 months ago

The war on drugs was a dismal failure, DARE didn't work, the situation in Mexico, Columbia and some smaller Central American countries is because of Americans penchant for drugs. After years of being against legalization, I've changed my stance. I say legalize it; reduce the crime and the immigration problem, quit supporting the drug cartels and let chemo patients have it. I know someone is going to say they can take pills or suppositories, but if you're vomiting or have cancer in an area where you can't go the suppository route, pot is the best course.

bruno2 5 years, 2 months ago

The laws were passed in the 1920-30s under heavy lobbying by the alcohol and tobacco industries (surprise). They are upheld by the right wing that wants to legislate lifestyle choices. When booze was prohibited (by the same moralizers) the same criminal enterprises arose. It's long past time to end this modern prohibition.

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