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Lawrence has had roundabouts for a few years now. What’s your feeling about the traffic calming devices?

Response Percent Votes
They serve no useful purpose.
 
46% 400
They serve a useful purpose.
 
30% 266
I live with them.
 
21% 190
No opinion.
 
1% 13
Total 869

Comments

average 5 years, 6 months ago

Prairielander -On your suggestion list, the four-way stops on Connecticut don't get that backed up. I'd prefer roundabouts there, but probably not worth the money. If they were west of Kasold, they'd have roundabouts already.Haskell at 13th and 15th do get quite backed up. They'd be very good locations, except for the amount of heavy straight-truck traffic that goes down Haskell. City shops, biosolids trucks, asphalt and concrete trucks toward much of the eastern half of Lawrence, etc. Plus, shutting them down for any reconstruction is almost impossible.

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tangential_reasoners_anonymous 5 years, 6 months ago

Not roundabouts, but gas prices!the new "traffic calming" devices.

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brutus53 5 years, 6 months ago

I'm not sure what living wage law and the T has to do with roundabouts, but I know I don't like them. Despite what Pywacket says, the roundabout at 19th street is dangerous. If anyone saw the Channel 6 news last night (9/28), you will notice the cars backed up on Barker TRYING to enter the roundabout, but are unable because the 19th street traffic won't yield. I know I've sat there numerous times trying to enter the roundabout, and finally have to be aggressive to get in. Explain to me how this is better than a four-way stop sign!

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RedwoodCoast 5 years, 6 months ago

How long has the roundabout on campus been there? Has everyone been strategically avoiding it all these years? I will agree that there is some sort of pathetic attempt at a roundabout on one of the streets between campus and 19th, but I still think that people see a circle instead of a square and they just get flabbergasted. Roundabouts are great when implemented properly.

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solsken66 5 years, 6 months ago

Roundabouts are great at keeping traffic flowing and for safety of motorists. With stop signs, some people don't stop which I had happen to me on 19th street. Luckily, I was quick at using the brakes. Otherwise, I and my children could of been dead since that guy driving the van must of been going 45mph. I saw big roundabouts with two lanes in New York state, Norway, and Sweden. The inside lane was to travel around until on got to the right exit or missed their exit. These were built on major road ways like for example the stop light at 10 hwy and Harper.

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Romans832 5 years, 6 months ago

The "traffic circle" near where I live does not slow traffic. The speed limit on the two blocks on either side is 20 MPH. Perhaps they're going no more than 20 to navigate the circle, but before and after, let 'er rip!

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kmat 5 years, 6 months ago

Can anyone explain the speed hump on Lawrence Ave that has ruts built in so you can speed right through it if no one is coming the opposite direction? Makes no sense to put in a speed controlling device if they make it so you can still go through the hump and maintain a high rate of speed.A well built round about in a state that teaches people how to use them is a good thing. I rarely encounter drivers in this town that know how to use them. One day, I actually had to get out of my car at 19th & Barker to tell a person that they had to pull into the intersection and go around it, that no one was going to just stop for them.

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Michael Sizemore 5 years, 6 months ago

gontek - couldn't agree more. what's the best air you've caught off a speed hump? my record is 23 feet, but I trashed the front end and tore off the oil pan. thinking of buying a sport bike with good shocks open headers. if you're on a motocycle in lawrence you don't have to obey traffic laws or noise ordinances!

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Prairielander 5 years, 6 months ago

I choose to drive back and forth to work each day through the roundabouts on Harvard. I could drive on 6th and get there just as fast (or maybe faster), but I prefer the continuous cruise to the stop-and-go. I also think cruising improves my gas mileage. I'd like to see more. How about:9th and Lawrence Ave.7th/9th/11th and Connecticut15th and Haskell15th and Monterey?

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tonythetiger 5 years, 6 months ago

I gotta be honest with you. They are a hazard for semi-trucks and larger vehicles and emergency vehicles on the way to things like fire engines. I think they might have their place on interchanges but getting there safe is better than getting there without stopping. I am also a cyclist and concerned about how unorthodox vehicles are treated by cars anyway and I think of them as an additional hazard.Make sense?

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gontek 5 years, 6 months ago

roundabouts slow me down when I'm speeding across town through residential neighborhoods DUI. Of course I don't want to wait for stoplights or congested traffic, and there are more cops on the arterial roads anyway. I prefer to see how fast I can go through residential neighborhoods, even though I have wrecked my car a few times due to the roundabouts (also drinking and hallucinating on mushrooms may have contributed). I am a fiend so when my dealer gives me a call I usually have to stop by an ATM too, so I don't have time to be slowing down for traffic devices. Sheesh why don't the engineers consider this?

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Michael Sizemore 5 years, 6 months ago

Love them - but take it to the next level.23rd and Mass.It would make an awesome gateway into the city, and help relieve game day and rush hour traffic.Foutains, landscaping, signage.It could be great.

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Laura Wilson 5 years, 6 months ago

While they are incredibly useful, people need to be educated on their use and we need to stop spending money on making them so pretty. Brick decor, faux gas lamps, flowers, etc. are a waste of money. Put a big yellow round hump in the middle with a yellow circle painted around it like they do in Europe on most city streets and save the large round-abouts for busy intersections with more than one lane going each way.

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PapaB 5 years, 6 months ago

The one 25th Terrace and O'Connell could have been put off until there are some houses there, at least the road would have some wear on it before tearing it up. It's definitely "calming" traffic on O'Connell right now.

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BuffyloGal 5 years, 6 months ago

Love them! So much easier to manage than the old four-way stop and no need to stop, only slow down which is better for your gas mileage in the long run. Now if only the drivers' tests would get better as well!

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sunnyjcusa 5 years, 6 months ago

If roundabouts are for heavy traffic why the one at 25th Terrace and O'Connell road currently being built? Both are dead-end streets.

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Richard Heckler 5 years, 6 months ago

Traffic Lights at $200,000 plus maintenance and energy. More LPD officers at $65,000 a year.Traffic calming devices are fiscally prudent.If drivers want to get from point A to point B a bit quicker keeping traffic moving makes more sense.

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Poon 5 years, 6 months ago

Roundabouts save gas by allowing me to have a thrilling ride without having to go all the way to Worlds Of Fun. 'Round and 'round and 'round we go...

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Curtis Lange 5 years, 6 months ago

Good to see the majority of poll voters are uneducated idiots.

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Lenette Hamm 5 years, 6 months ago

Roundabouts are only as good as the (so-called) drivers who (attempt to) navigate them.

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To Sides 5 years, 6 months ago

If roundabouts are so great why aren't they downtown from 6th to 11th ? The roundabout at 19th & Barker is great for that intersection but if you're trying to cross 19th or get on 19th from Leonard, Delaware, Rhode Island or New Hampshire the steady stream of traffic makes the wait longer than without it. West Lawrence gets roundabouts, East Lawrence gets traffic control devices. If you don't think so look at 17th between Illinois and Indiana. Any of those things in West Lawrence?

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hilary 5 years, 6 months ago

Read the article. Roundabouts are CHEAPER than stop lights, and much more efficient. We just need to add a few questions on the DMV test regarding how to use them, is all.

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jayhawkrider 5 years, 6 months ago

Roundabouts are used all over the world and are a better alternative to stop signs or lights. Many large cities, such as Houston, TX, are going to these and taking OUT lights and speed bumps for better traffic flow in semi-commercial and neighborhod areas. They are also made narrow for a reason...so people won't speed through them. I, for one, was delighted when i saw that Lawrence was looking forward into transportation options. I grew up here and was always amazed that installation of a traffic light could take 10 years because people never wanted things to change.

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tunahelper 5 years, 6 months ago

only an engineer would like roundabouts. There is no such thing as an intelligent engineers. Engineers are legends in their own minds.

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John Spencer 5 years, 6 months ago

I gotta have more round-abouts.

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teacher101 5 years, 6 months ago

They should spend the money on the homeless. When the oil is gone, there will be no need for roundabouts anyway.

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Kat Christian 5 years, 6 months ago

Wow Pywacket I totally agree with you on the speed bumps. We do need them on some of these streets. We have those idiots who also think think they are the ONLY person on the road and don't think about walkers who drive life they are in a racecar. When I say people drive too slow I'm not advocating speeding, just drive the speed limit and pay ATTENTION and stay off those darn cell phones while driving. and if you're too nervous to drive you shouldn't be on the road. Yes, those traffic calming devices are a menace especially when people park near them. Get rid of them PLEASE.

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cms 5 years, 6 months ago

The roundabouts in Lawrence are not large enough to go through easily. If they were constructed adequately it would be much better for traffic flow.

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BigPrune 5 years, 6 months ago

They are yet another major expense the former Progressive City Commission implimented. They cost as much as street lights and were placed where stop signs once stood. They certainly haven't paid for themselves, just like the T Bus, just like the Living Wage Law hasn't brought ANY jobs, just like their new codes have stifled growth at every angle. Now we are faced with voting to raise our taxes, and if we don't do it, the City will raise the Mill levy. Now we are being forced to pay for the ridiculous schemes of the past.

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Rsan 5 years, 6 months ago

Round-a-bouts are dangerous. People do not know how to use them properly. They are expensive. They cause accidents. A man was killed on a motorcycle at the round-a-bout on Clinton Parkway out by the lake. I hope the city does not put any more of them in...I can't even get to my house without going through at least one round-a-bout. Does anyone know the statistics on how many accidents occur in round-a-bouts in Lawrence?

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alakazam 5 years, 6 months ago

the ones on monterey way are horrible

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rhd99 5 years, 6 months ago

When 58% (as unscientific as it is) say Roundabouts serve no useful purpose, it's time to issue a taxpayer revolt. SPEAK UP!

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Kam_Fong_as_Chin_Ho 5 years, 6 months ago

If the alternative is a stop sign, I'll take a roundabout any day of the week.

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Pywacket 5 years, 6 months ago

I love the one on 19th St--it has done an amazing job of cutting down on congestion at that intersection.I don't use the others frequently enough to fairly voice an opinion on them, so I'll go with the statistics (over the whiners) and say that roundabouts generally do a better and safer job of moving traffic than do stop signs.As for "traffic calming devices," aka "obstructions in the road," I can't imagine that they have justified their cost. Since I don't drive a bloated, oversized vehicle, and am not driving 10 or more over the limit in the first place, I do not need to slow down to navigate between them and the curb, so they don't have much effect on my driving. I can't speak for others.I think a better "traffic calming device" would be speed bumps. Put them in residential areas that people habitually tear through and see if that helps.

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Kat Christian 5 years, 6 months ago

The only round-a-bout that makes sense is the one on 19th street. The rest are in the way. I wish people would learn how to enter them though. I hate it when someone stops before entering when there are no cars in the circle. Then you get the idiots that slam into it when you're passing them in it. The drivers in this town frustrate me anyway. They drive too slow and under the speed limit, stop for no reason, sit at green lights way too long and hold up traffic - they think they're the only ones on the road and don't turn right on red when they can. Oh and I love the ones who are so freaked about driving in their lane becuase they're afraid of hitting a parked car and drive in your lane when there is plenty of room in their side. Arrrrrh!

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