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Gridlock? Are you kidding? You folks need to get out more. Lawrence traffic is not bad.
"Gridlock: A traffic jam in which no vehicular movement is possible."
-The American Heritage College Dictionary
Agree -- definitely not 'gridlock'. But there's plenty of room for improvement when the funds become available. Like a right-turn lane from northbound Iowa Street to eastbound 19th.
Coming from NYC, Let me say that Lawrencians have nothing to complain about regarding the traffic. Maybe the potholes.
I voted for undecided because I didn't like either of the choices; isn't there something in between gridlock and no problem? Yes, and it is called Lawrence traffic. If you want to truly see gridlock, go to KC on a Friday afternoon between 4:00 and 6:00 PM. We have nothing compared to that. That being said, we do need some improvements. First that comes to mind is 31st St. and Haskell. That entire route is nothing more than a bypass for 23rd St for everyone coming from or going to KC.
I agree with you guys. I have only experienced true gridlock twice, Washington DC and spring break at Panama City Beach. At least our traffic moves. Washington DC was terrible every day.
Coming from SoCal, Lawrence traffic is gravy. Gridlock my foot.
The choices on this poll are poor. In no way is Lawrence traffic a "gridlock", but the traffic grid isn't great either. Some dayst takes me just as long to get from Lenexa to 23rd & Harper (20 minutes from K-10/Renner) as it does to get from Harper to 23rd & Iowa. Yuck!
Gridlock - Nope
No Problem - Heck no.
Undecided - Nope, I know there are problems and places to improve.
I voted Gridlock just because it was the closest to reality. When the main streets are so slowed down that it makes sense to cut through neighborhoods to speed up travel, you know there are issues. And no I'm not saying people should cut through neighborhoods, but it is definitely happening in many places.
I've been working on my masters at MNU in Olathe, and I'm even more committed to keep Lawrence from becoming that place. It takes forever to get anywhere. Any of the main streets in Olathe make our traffic look good, even 23rd at rush hour.
PS - I went through my hooding ceremony this weekend. WOOHOO!!!!! I'll have free time, and I won't have to drive in Olathe too much longer.
Yeah, the choices for this poll are not scientific, they are not even meainingful. Must have been made by the dork that screwed up this website with the glaring titanium white pages. Get real, no one here has seen gridlock, but 23rd street at 5 o'clock with all the people coming back from KC because they cannot find decent jobs in Lawrence is something else. My vote on this poll.....phttttttt!
Then, if gridlock is not the correct name for it, they should have another answer. Perhaps terrible, or horrible. One reason gas is so high is because so much of it is wasted sitting at traffic lights and stop signs. Thank you, Lynn
And we've been told by the city of Lawrence that a Kansas Dept of Transportation study that is already outdated states that 6th/Wakarusa will be like 23rd/Louisiana when the proposed new development on that corner is finished.
Why would the city want to make another 23rd/Louisiana, right next to 2 schools and a swimming pool?
OK, those of you who answered "gridlock:" what are YOU prepared to do to help fix it?
Of course, it's nowhere near gridlock. Not close. In fact, it's far closer to the "no problem" end of the scale, as anyone who has lived in a large, poorly-planned traffic city can tell you (think St. Louis, LA, Seattle). And it would appear that as long as it's not gridlock out there, there will be no will, political, social, community, or otherwise, to prevent gridlock.
In St. Louis, they've closed Interstate 64/40, the main route through west county, midtown AND downtown, until who-knows-when, for widening, new bridges, and more and more traffic. But no public transit is included in this monstrous--and monstrously disruptive--project.
In Seattle, they close one lane of the freeway while they build another, because they want to accomodate more and more traffic. So, for one year at a time, one lane is closed, leading to (wait for it) gridlock! And then, by the time the new lane is open, the new traffic volumes have already maxed out the capacity of the new lane! Brilliant!
LA's problems are legion, and its victims are also its perpetrators, as in most cities where more thought is given to moving cars from A to B than moving people from A to B.
As drivers, we need to learn that the city's, the state's and the nation's responsibilities to subsidize our has been more than met. If we refuse to consider more efficient transportation, we can expect the costs of this lifestyle choice to increase. This means we as motorists can expect to pay more to drive, to park, to fill up, and to do these things without the subsidies we now get from taxes on groceries, clothing, houses, wages, and so forth.
And that's how it should be.
I voted 'Gridlock' even though it isn't. The poll sucks. Lawrence traffic is somewhere in the middle of 'no problem' and gridlock. Things might flow a little smoother if people would do the speed limit and not 20 mph UNDER it. That and follow basic rules of the road...
So Lawrence traffic isn't nearly as bad as LA or NYC, or even KC. But then again, Lawrence doesn't have anywhere near the same population as those cities. You would have to compare it to something a little bit more similar in size, like say Joplin, MO. And compared to that, Lawrence is a gridlock. It's mostly the way people drive. Like taking an extra ten seconds to move the foot from the brake to the gas pedal when the light turns green, or starting to brake a block away when they see the red light ahead.
So it's not as bad as the other cities listed. And as for what I would do about it...if I could live and work in Lawrence I would take a bus. Anyone have an opening for a machinist?
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