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Archive for Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Town Talk: Home sale numbers up for August, down for year; a different look for Obama; more on city’s thought to ‘tax’ water and sewer department

September 28, 2011

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News and notes from around town:

• Yesterday I told you that Lawrence experienced a bit of a bounce back in the number of homes built in August. Well, Lawrence Realtors had a bounce back in the number of homes sold during the month. Home sales were up 28 percent in August compared to August 2010, according to statistics from the Lawrence Board of Realtors. The group reports 105 homes were sold during the month. But just like building permits, the numbers for the year-to-date aren’t good. Through the first eight months of the year, home sales are down 16 percent from the same period a year ago. Realtors note that 2010 numbers received a significant boost from the first-time home buyers credit offered as part of the federal stimulus package. But this year’s numbers are down even from two years ago, when that credit wasn’t much of a factor. This year’s numbers are down 8.4 percent from two years ago. Particularly important to builders is the number of newly built homes sold. Those numbers are way down. The group reports 48 sales of newly built homes, which is down 40.7 percent from a year ago and down 20 percent from two years ago.

As far as prices go, the Realtors’ numbers indicate they’re holding steady. The median selling price for this year checks in at $158,000. That’s up slightly from $157,500 a year ago. I believe the Douglas County Appraiser’s office, however, is seeing some statistics in the data it gathers that indicates falling sale prices. That’s creating concern with some government officials that the city’s tax base may shrink significantly. More on that another day. What has risen is the amount of time it takes to sell a house. The median days on market is now at 59, up from 39 in 2010 and 44 in 2009.

It is worth noting that August’s sales totals mark the second straight month that the market has posted a gain compared to the same month a year ago. So, it will be interesting to see if the Lawrence real estate market is undergoing a year-end rally. That could be very important as the Douglas County appraiser determines the values of property for Jan. 1, 2012.

• Last night just goes to show that you never know what you’ll see at Lawrence City Hall. It was a long night at the weekly City Commission meeting as more than two hours worth of public comment was heard regarding the gender identity issue. That wasn’t unexpected, but one visual that appeared at the meeting was. One speaker used the city’s overhead projector device to show a picture of President Obama that she had altered showing Obama in women’s clothing and make-up. The speaker (I’m not trying to hide her identity, but I do need to confirm the spelling on her name before I publish it) asked the question of whether people would have voted for this man if he looked like this. Several in the crowd gasped and City Commissioner Bob Schumm called the speaker’s tactic inappropriate. The speaker said her point was that appearance does matter, and that business owners ought to have the right to factor that into their decisions when choosing whom to hire. UPDATE: According to the sign-in sheet at City Hall, her name is Sharla True.)

• Nope, not even going to try create a segue from that to this. City commissioners last night agreed to postpone a decision on a city policy that would allow rates paid to the city’s water and sewer utility to be transferred to the city’s general fund in an attempt to make up for the fact that public utilities aren’t required to pay property taxes. Commissioners didn’t set a time to take up that issue again, but City Manager David Corliss said his office would bring it back to commissioners after the public has had enough time to weigh in on the issue. As we noted in the article, a representative with the Lawrence Home Builders Association expressed concerns at the meeting about the policy, and said her group’s board would now take a formal position on the issue. We’ll see whether any other groups do. I did hear from one leader of a rural water district, which purchases some of its water from the city of Lawrence. He said rural water districts have had concerns about what Lawrence water rates are being used to fund in the city.

“What you would like to see is for the city’s water rates to have a direct relationship to the cost to treat the water plus a reasonable mark up,” said Scott Schultz, administrator for Rural Water District No. 4 outside of Baldwin. “If there’s a thought that the city’s mark up is funding non-water related services, that is too bad. It has concerned us, and we have communicated that to the city in negotiations on water prices in the past.”

I think many city leaders would argue that the city is appropriately setting its rates, and it is trying to compensate the city’s general fund for both the direct and indirect benefits that the utility system receives from the host of services the city provides to everyone — everything from fire protection to parks and recreation services.

But that philosophy has created some interesting comments I’ve read at LJWorld since we first reported this item. One was this: If the city’s philosophy is to receive a payment in lieu of taxes from operations that charge rates and fees like a business but pay no property tax, what about the city’s parks and recreation department? That department owns several facilities that it uses to generate fees. Think recreation centers, softball fields, swimming pools and a golf course, for example. Some of those compete directly with private businesses that pay property taxes. I don’t know what the taxable property value of the Eagle Bend Golf Course would be, for example, but it would be sizable. Are there other city departments that fall into the same category that charge fees like a business but don’t pay property taxes? That would require some thought, which I don't do much of after long City Commission meetings, but it is an interesting discussion.

Comments

sunny 2 years, 6 months ago

Really? So a cross dresser, loaded with tatoo's and face piercings interviews as a bank teller, against a well dressed, no tatoos's, no face piercings and there should be no discrimination?

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agtprovocateuse 2 years, 6 months ago

Snap - My point is that we SHOULD NOT discriminate in hiring on the basis of a person's appearance. I'm not the gander here - Ms. True is.

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bearded_gnome 2 years, 6 months ago

than two hours worth of public comment was heard regarding the gender identity issue. That wasn’t unexpected, but one visual that appeared at the meeting was. One speaker used the city’s overhead projector device to show a picture of President Obama that she had altered showing Obama in women’s clothing and make-up. The speaker (I’m not trying to hide her identity, but I do need to confirm the spelling on her name before I publish it) asked the question of whether people would have voted for this man if he looked like this. Several in the crowd gasped and City Commissioner Bob Schumm called the speaker’s tactic inappropriate. The speaker said her point was that appearance does matter, and that business owners ought to have the right to factor that into their decisions when choosing whom to hire. UPDATE: According to the sign-in sheet at City Hall, her name is Sharla True.)

---correct indeed.
city commission election coming none too soon.

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Flap Doodle 2 years, 6 months ago

agt, please post a photo of yourself so we can see how your looks stack up. Sauce goose, sauce gander.

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agtprovocateuse 2 years, 6 months ago

So can I say I don't want to hire Ms. True based on the fact that she looks like she might have escaped from Warren Jeffs' compound? http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2006/jun/16/100338/ Or perhaps I could discriminate based on the fact that she looks like she might be a Section 8 resident? http://www.ldcha.org/pdf/minutes/2007/AprilMinutes_032707.pdf Would Ms. True be okay with discriminating against her based on HER looks, or is it only okay to discriminate against someone based on looks if his or her "looks" suggest the individual might not be cisgendered?

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rockchalk1977 2 years, 6 months ago

"showing Obama in women’s clothing and make-up". I could see that but wouldn't want to. At least Obama could use either bathroom in Lawrence, KS now.

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Flap Doodle 2 years, 6 months ago

If the Mope in Chief was spending his days flouncing around is a snappy frock, he might not have given the nod to whizz away another $1 billion on more unicorn toot solar projects.

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MattressMan 2 years, 6 months ago

I think the city utility dept actually pays local and state sales tax because they in turn sell a product and make a profit. Whereas other depts (p&r, public works) do not pay sales tax as they don"t sell a product per se and make no profits (supposedly). Maybe thats why they arent mentioning other city property as being somewhat taxable.

My question would be if the city declares that these utility properties are subject to a defacto property tax what would stop the county and school district from jumping in and collecting their property tax on those utility properties?

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ObiWan 2 years, 6 months ago

Please publish the woman's name from the CC meeting ASAP. I would also like to know what business she is affiliated with, if any, so that I can avoid ever spending a nickel there.

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