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Brownback administration lays off Kansas Arts Commission employees

May 10, 2011, 7:44 p.m. Updated May 10, 2011, 9:42 a.m.

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KT Walsh of the Percolator art collective in Lawrence on Thursday, Feb. 10, 2011 displays her "John Brown" puppet during rally protesting elimination of the Kansas Arts Commission.

KT Walsh of the Percolator art collective in Lawrence on Thursday, Feb. 10, 2011 displays her "John Brown" puppet during rally protesting elimination of the Kansas Arts Commission.

Laura Ramberg of Lawrence waves the "Kansas Muse" on Thursday, Feb. 10 during a rally across the street from the Capitol to protest Gov. Sam Brownback's order to eliminate the Kansas Arts Commission.

Laura Ramberg of Lawrence waves the "Kansas Muse" on Thursday, Feb. 10 during a rally across the street from the Capitol to protest Gov. Sam Brownback's order to eliminate the Kansas Arts Commission.

— In defiance of the Legislature, Gov. Sam Brownback's administration Tuesday laid off the employees of the Kansas Arts Commission.

Earlier in the legislative session, Brownback proposed abolishing the commission, but the Legislature rejected the move after numerous Kansans voiced opposition to the proposal in protests, calls to legislators and testimony to committees.

Despite that, Brownback's secretary of the Kansas Department of Administration, Dennis Taylor, told the Arts Commission's interim director Chris Howell on Tuesday that all five commission employees would be placed on administrative leave immediately and terminated June 10.

Henry Schwaller, chairman of the Arts Commission, said he was "very surprised" by the action.

"This is a back-door move to eliminate the Arts Commission," Schwaller said.

He said the commission had funding through the end of the fiscal year. "We can't provide services now to the 290 arts organizations and artists," he said.

In addition, Schwaller noted that the Senate had voted to reject Brownback's executive order to abolish the commission, and House and Senate budget-writers had agreed on funding the agency at nearly $700,000 for the fiscal year that starts July 1.

Brownback could have applied a line-item veto to that funding. But if he had, the Legislature then would have had the opportunity to override the veto.

Brownback had proposed eliminating the commission as a cost-cutting move and said a private group could raise funds for the arts.

On Tuesday, Sherriene Jones-Sontag, a spokeswoman for Brownback, said, "Gov. Brownback stands by his budget recommendation as the best way to cause the arts to flourish privately in Kansas while saving taxpayer dollars."

Schwaller said he would continue fighting to preserve the Arts Commission and urged supporters to contact Brownback and legislators. The 2011 legislative session is expected to end this week.

State Sen. Roger Reitz, R-Manhattan, who led the effort in the Senate to overturn Brownback's executive order shutting down the commission, said Wednesday he was "very disappointed" in Brownback's layoffs of the commisison staff.

"There is no reason for this," Reitz said. "That's a real tragic statement for the state of Kansas," he said. He said eliminating the commission will cost the state thousands of jobs related to the arts.

Reitz said he would speak with Senate leaders to determine if there is any way to reverse Brownback's move.

Comments

kugrad 3 years, 11 months ago

So much for representative democracy. Brownback is an uncultured dullard.

Liberty275 3 years, 11 months ago

Actually, your everyman kansan is an uncultured dullard. Cultured people spend money on artwork, making intervention by the representative democracy into the art world unnecessary.

Here's your homework assignment: instead of complaining about the nanny not paying for your art, take out your wallet and buy more original non-schlock works for yourself. You are cultured enough to buy original artwork aren't you?

Note: this post is for all the whiners complaining because the state isn't spending money on art while we close schools.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

You demonstrate that you have absolutely no idea what the Arts Commission did.

But you don't care. You're driven by a narrow, petty ideology, and it doesn't matter to you what any government program does, or how valuable that is to the communities it serves-- even those that are as inexpensive as the Arts Commission was, and which served to coordinate and leverage the much greater funding available from other sources, many of them private.

Jeff Kilgore 3 years, 11 months ago

just another, the only comment that I'll make in support of your dead-on position is that Drownback is leading us back to the 1920s in breakneck speed!

Ignorance is bliss.

Jeff Kilgore 3 years, 11 months ago

just another, the only comment that I'll make in support of your dead-on position is that Drownback is leading us back to the 1920s in breakneck speed!

Ignorance is bliss.

Ceallach 3 years, 11 months ago

The state has no bread!! Let it and all its uncultured dullards eat artists' interpretations of cake.

verity 3 years, 11 months ago

OK, that's just funny no matter which side you're on.

neo_star 3 years, 11 months ago

ah Sam, kiss the White House goodbye, you just alienated a big chunk of the electoral votes with a record like this.

Rich Noever 3 years, 11 months ago

Whatever his stance on the Arts Commission, it will not have much effect on his chances. Big chunk?

Thunderdome 3 years, 11 months ago

Nice jobs program, Gov. At least the money paid to the Arts Commission employees would have ended up in the real economy. Now it will go to greedy rich people in tax cuts and will be used to buy silk toilet paper and pay for hunting trips to beat baby seals with a club.

verity 3 years, 11 months ago

Yep, this is Brownback's last job on the public dole. He has just outdone himself. Unfortunately, we will be supporting him financially for the rest of his life. Of course, the Kochs will abandon him as soon as he is of no use to them, but we are stuck with him forever.

Alceste 3 years, 11 months ago

The PEOPLE of Kansas ELECTED this CLOWN BROWNBACK to the job. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. WE are getting EXACTLY what we, essentially, ASKED for.

At least these "art commission" people were all in patronage jobs anyway......they signed up for the game of "who ya know"....now they're findin' out what it is like to NOT KNOW the "right people". shrug

If people actually think "voting" means a rats rear end in Kansas....they need to re-address their thinking.

Let's see....the people of Wisconsin are successfully recalling the vote on over 15 state Senators. Could such a thing happen in KanzAss? Get out of here! hahahahahahahhaa

http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/03/multiple-recall-efforts-launched-against-wisconsin-state-senators

thtb 3 years, 11 months ago

What an embarrassment to our state.

question4u 3 years, 11 months ago

This action eliminates jobs, but Brownback claims that his top priority is to create jobs. This action will cut arts programs in underpopulated parts of the state, but Brownback wants to encourage people to move to those areas. Financially this action will result in a net loss for the state, but Brownback claims to be concerned about improving the state's financial outlook.

This makes Brownback look petty, illogical, pigheaded and autocratic. If he doesn't even try to explain the paradoxes he doesn't look very smart either. Does he fail to realize that or does he just not care?

homechanger 3 years, 11 months ago

Brownback wants private sector jobs created. Not tax dollar funded jobs. Lessen the tax burden on those of us working and employing people in the private sector. If the arts commission is so important the private money will step up. If not then good riddance.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

This is just ideological claptrap. The amount of tax money going to the Arts Commission is extremely minimal, while the good it does in communities throughout the state is significant.

And not a single job will be created by the elimination of the Arts Commission. Anybody who believes it will create jobs is a dullard and/or a liar.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

Whatever you say. After all, you have "sources." (albeit rarely attributed, and when they are, usually nothing more than pure ideological assertions and straw men.)

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

What a hypocrite.

You rarely back up your claims, and when you do, it's rarely anything more than ideological posturing.

If you want this forum to be attributed like a dissertation, I suggest you start with your own posts.

wmathews 3 years, 11 months ago

Let's have this conversation without the immature bickering, guys.

homechanger 3 years, 11 months ago

So you are an expert at creating jobs? Lowering my tax burden gives me more money to use to create more money. That requires more man power. Pretty simple.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

The expenses associated with creating new jobs automatically would reduce your tax burden-- until those new employees increase your income, anyway. And even after paying taxes on that new income, you'd still be better off for having created the jobs.

In other words, tax cuts that bankrupt government don't create jobs-- they satisfy private greed while destroying the economy.

If you don't believe me, why have the last thirty years of trickle-down Reaganomics led directly to the economic mess we have today?

Phillbert 3 years, 11 months ago

"Gov. Brownback stands by his budget recommendation..."

Key word: recommendation. The Governor must have missed the part of the constitution that requires budgets to actually pass the Legislature. Though he certainly respected the power of the legislative branch when he was voting for filibuster after filibuster as a senator...

situveux1 3 years, 11 months ago

Good riddance. Maybe instead of the "my way or the highway" attitude arts supporters took they should have worked with Brownback to ensure a smooth transition to a private organization and work to ensure continued federal dollars. Now they'll be left with nothing. It was clear from the beginning Brownback could simply line-item veto their funding and there's clearly not enough support in the House or Senate for an override. Arts supporters have no one to blame but themselves for this outcome.

Bob_Keeshan 3 years, 11 months ago

"my way or the highway" doesn't really apply to the arts supporters here, though the phrase certainly applies. You partisan wingers have an interesting world view.

situveux1 3 years, 11 months ago

Regardless of what I believe, it was clear from the beginning Brownback was probably just going to line-item veto funding, regardless of how a Senate or House vote turned out. Supporters of arts funding would have been wise to work to keep some form of funding in place rather than risk loosing everything, which now it looks like they will.

And captain, we're all partisan. Some more than others, but all to some degree.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

But some of "us" are narrow, petty, greedy jerks in our partisanship.

Bob_Keeshan 3 years, 11 months ago

Remind again, then, which side was "my way or the highway"? That was your criticism, and you've duly noted it does not apply to KAC supporters.

situveux1 3 years, 11 months ago

I duly noted it doesn't apply to KAC supporters? Where did I note that? It most certainly does apply. Had they worked with the administration to explore all avenues, maybe some semblance of funding could have been salvaged, but because the only acceptable position to them was to make no changes what-so-ever, now they will be left with nothing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they made such a stupid move, but sometimes you gotta know who holds all the cards, and in this case it was Brownback. Better to cut your losses than lose everything.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

As Bob pointed out, it's Brownback who gave the "my way or the highway" ultimatum.

And it wasn't the KAC who had the power to decide Brownback was wrong to abolish the KAC. It was a very Republican-dominated Kansas Senate who had that power, and they used it.

Brownback couldn't accept that the KAC, and its very modest funding, have a good deal of support in the state of Kansas, even among Republicans, so he threw a tantrum and took a backdoor, unilateral action to destroy the commission.

But as some comments here demonstrate, Brownback has some supporters in his acts of pettiness.

Bob_Keeshan 3 years, 11 months ago

You said clearly, and just said again, that Brownback was never going to negotiate. "My way or the highway". You can't reason with a wall, you should know that from people attempting to reason with you.

thepianoman 3 years, 11 months ago

You betcha. Good riddance. Totally agree with your statement. Why weren't they getting off their duffs to make this transition. They knew this was coming. Tax payer dollars should not be supporting the arts. Government has no buisness defining art and who is an "artist," etc. I am a pianist and would not dream of asking the KAC for funding.

overthemoon 3 years, 11 months ago

Every artist of every discipline benefits from the KAC whether they get direct funding or not.

KAC members and administrators were denied a voice in this, its not like they didn't try to talk to the Governor. His door and his mind were shut.

Ceallach 3 years, 11 months ago

Most of the European doors are still open. Don't miss your chance to kick the dust of Kansas off your shoes and move on to paradise.

homechanger 3 years, 11 months ago

Look I own a business and employ people. I'm taxed out the wazoo every time I turn around. I'm married to an artist! I dig art. I don't dig supporting more government art gurus. Art is a private love. Not s public funded career.

Liberty275 3 years, 11 months ago

I don't know how much time you've spent in Europe, but I was there three years and saw much less art than I saw in NYC in one week. Most of the "public art" I saw in Europe was remains of the defunct roman empire.

Ceallach 3 years, 11 months ago

Replied to the wrong JackRipper post . . no doubt a result of being so barbaric.

Once more with feeling!! Most of the European doors are still open. Don't miss your chance to kick the dust of Kansas off your shoes and move on to paradise.

Richard Heckler 3 years, 11 months ago

The action of neoconservative christian fundamentalist party member masquerading as a republican.

His actions confirm my thinking. The republican party as such is dead. This is why my father in law,an active republican, left the party after at least 60 years.

Should the governor be recalled? Absolutely.

Doug Fisher 3 years, 11 months ago

You can always move. That's what I did and haven't looked back. The state to the west of you is at least more moderate and sensible.

tamu_JAYHAWK 3 years, 11 months ago

I have been living in Central Texas for the last year, and honestly the ideology and general political climate here seem so reasonable after I read about the current government in Kansas.

Ralph Reed 3 years, 11 months ago

@jafs. That's very scary, not just a bit.


@All Imagine the fun Molly Ivins would have with this mess.

FrameXFrame 3 years, 11 months ago

Save us tax payers money? $0.29 a year per person in the state of Kansas. Way to go Sammy, laying off those people is really the answer. NOT!

sciencegeek 3 years, 11 months ago

The fundamental point of this administration is to impose it's philosophy by any means necessary. If the citizens or the legislature disagrees with that philosophy, tough. Sam and the Koch brothers know how things should be, and they will have their way.

If you want to end programs, just fire the people who provide them, be it arts, unemployment, education or any state-provided service. And what better way to fix KPERS that to have no one left to collect it? There's a method to the madness, folks!

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

I know what will fix everything! How about a new state logo!?!? State employees are to through out all unused letterhead, business cards, envelopes, etcetera on July 1 because the new administration has came up with a new state logo! Talk about wasting tax dollars! How much will this debacle cost tax payers? Contact your representatives today and express your support!

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Flag this post to make it go away, please.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

I know what will fix everything! How about a new state logo!?!? State employees are to throw out all unused letterhead, business cards, envelopes, etcetera on July 1 because the new administration has came up with a new state logo! Talk about wasting tax dollars! How much will this debacle cost tax payers? Contact your representatives today and express your support!

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

FYI: This is not a joke. We have a new state logo and all agencies/departments must comply with the wasteful order to dispose of all unused items bearing the old logo.

bluedawg79 3 years, 11 months ago

Let this be a call to everyone who wants local arts programs to continue, please donate/volunteer what you comfortably can. Whether it's $1 or $10,000, an hour of your time or days at a time, every bit helps. It's now up to us to help keep the arts alive in our community!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

No, this is just sinking to the lowest common denominator.

kansanbygrace 3 years, 11 months ago

This is one of the most ignorant actions I've ever witnessed by an elected official. The guy is pathetic, wrong headed. No integrity, just ambition.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

Sam is a dull boy. And he wants everyone else to be just as dull as he is. That way he'll get a Koch brothers secret decoder ring. Sure it's cheap and it's plastic. Anything more and the Bros. might have to sell one of their mansions, or not contribute as much to some hoity toity New York museum so they can get pictures taken with hot babes.

Armored_One 3 years, 11 months ago

Funding increased to 700K the next fiscal year? That is supposed to "save" the art community?

His methods being tacky, at best, I'd be interested in seeing if the groundswell of support this funding was supposed to have received will be backed up with any measurable amount of force.

There is a lot of knee-jerk response to something like not funding the arts, but once the metal gets put to the grindstone, no one really ever wants to step up and put money down on the table. I'm not trying to irritate the reader, but that is still frequently how things like this play out.

Why can't a true non-profit organization, funded by donations, be formed? I mean, 700K is great and all that, but if some old fart croaks and wants to will a chunk of cash to the arts, there aren't a lot of options available.

If one out of six people in Kansas put a one dollar bill in a bucket voluntarily once a year, that would amount to more than 700K.

Trust me, I am NOT saying Brownback earned grace points for his move, but good can come of it. It just means that people would have to stand up and back up their words, not just gripe and complain and wait for someone else to fix the problem. Idealistic, I admit, but as best as I can tell, it's still the truth.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

"If one out of six people in Kansas put a one dollar bill in a bucket voluntarily once a year, that would amount to more than 700K."

Your math is flawed.

Regardless, while private money "might" eventually fix this, the immediate result will be not just the elimination of state funds, but also matching federal funds that were even greater than that provided by the state. And it's not at all apparent that any private foundation will ever qualify for those matching funds.

Let's call this for what it is. Brownback's purpose in unilaterally killing the Arts Commission was purely petty and ideological, and it eliminated many more jobs than any tax reductions to the Koch brothers will ever create.

Armored_One 3 years, 11 months ago

Did I say anything about federal funding? As far as I remember, since I just read it again to make sure, the words 'federal' and 'funding' do not appear in my post.

And since Kansas has roughly 6 million residents, 1/6th of that number is 1 million, which, unless they changed the fundimental laws of math, is a larger number than 700,000.

But I admit, I could be wrong.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Man, you're on the internets, you should try to use Google and make sure your numbers are correct. Kansas doesn't even have half of 6,000,000 people living here. Using accurate data will usually adds credence to your message. Grabbing numbers out of thin air just makes you look ignorant and foolish.

The Census Bureau estimates Kansas population for 2009: 2,818,747

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/20000.html

Google-fu, you have none.

Armored_One 3 years, 11 months ago

I could have sworn I read it in the most recent copy of the budget posted online, but since that particular website isn't wanting to load...

Not the first time I've been wrong and most likely won't be the last.

I do have a question, though.

First, good job on pointing out the population numbers were wrong. More to the point, though, is that the only thing you can find to dispute out everything else I wrote?

Change the numbers slightly and you still have the same end result.

And just to prove that it is possible to raise the funds required to operate KAC above and beyond what the state funding would be capable of managing, I give you what the Salvation Army collected during the 2010 Christmas holiday season.

http://www.usc.salvationarmy.org/usc/www_usc_kan.nsf/vw-news/621DDA4045D681B186257832006C640E?opendocument

The campaign began November 1, 2010 and concluded January 31, 2011.

The organization raised a record $8.45 million in the metropolitan area. I admit that this is KCMO, but last I knew (open chance to be wrong again), there are more people living in Kansas than there are in KCMO.

If that much can be raised in 3 months, how much can be raised in 12 months?

I'd be interested in finding out, personally.

coloradoan 3 years, 11 months ago

As CL notes, the population isn't half of your imagined number. But going to the real issue, the idea that you posit of a non-profit arts group, is essentially what the arts council is - or was. The reason that the state stepped in to fund it is that this created a baseline of funding that allowed the group to have a reliable fund to pay rent, phone, salaries, etc., so that it could operate to bring in the Federal grants and private donations. Why is that so hard to understand?

And the reason for the state to fund it is that it helps to create the living environment that people want to move to, and companies want to move to, instead of being some backwater place. Guess we are backwater now, fer shur!

Armored_One 3 years, 11 months ago

So you are saying that taxpayers should fund the Texting Tower, as my oldest calls it, downtown? I don't really see that as an astounding display of artistic talent, but that's just me.

And beside the point.

I searched the entire, adn I do mean entire, KAC webpage, but found nothing on what kind of funds it has available at the moment to stay solvent.

I also found nothing listing how much funding they received from the Feds or from private donations, since they are 503c listed with the IRS, tracking that information down could be a pain.

I'd like to see just how much funding they hand out, what the requirements are, and other such information, but that is scarce on their webpage as well. Okay, not the requirements, but I found nothing on how much was dispersed to the various approved applicants.

How many people does it take to file grant applications to the feds?

I won't call it a definate, but I would be willing to bet that most large newspapers in the state would at least consider donating advertising space and/or creating a link on their respective webpages to inform the readers of the request for funding, and through the link allow for those donations to be made online.

KCPT does televised fundraisers several times a year. Why can't the KAC?

If Brownback could actually fire the people in charge of the commission, then they are in fact state employees, or am I wrong in that assumption? How much were they being paid to oversee this commission, and what were their duties?

It's all well and good to have a knee jerk reaction, but Brownback flat out stated, as in quoted, that the commission should become a not-for-profit organization. A butterfly can't become a butterfly again. If it's already a not-for-profit organization, then why say they should become one?

Heck, we can end it simply by showing me an overhead operating costs breakdown for office/clerical work versus the the expenditures for grants and endowments and such that they provide.

Can you find one?

I can't. You find it, and I will gladly read it.

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

He said it should become a privately funded non-profit organization.

Scott Morgan 3 years, 11 months ago

Times are tough thanks for hanging in there Sam

A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money.”

Everett Dirksen

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

We can't afford the arts, but we can afford a new logo! Go Sham, GO!

sallyone 3 years, 11 months ago

Good job Brownback! You have earned another vote from me in the next election. Keep lowering taxes, that's what the kansas people want!

overthemoon 3 years, 11 months ago

That's because 'the kansas people' are for the most part ignorant cretins.

BitterClinger 3 years, 11 months ago

I agree! Keep up the good work. Cut spending. Lower taxes. Art should not be taxpayer funded.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

But at least we can afford a new LOGO!!!!! YEAH< BABY! NEW LOGO! Can't afford the arts, but we can spend, spend, spend money for nothing!

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

Except that, you will find out, your taxes are not lower, and in fact may become higher in the form of sales taxes, property taxes, etc.

While those at the very top get tax breaks, and they eliminate corporate income taxes.

mloburgio 3 years, 11 months ago

brownback and the kochs, at least this bunch will leave higher education alone. opps too late!

The Koch Brothers and Florida State University -- Academic Freedom for Sale?

Under the agreement with the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, however, faculty only retain the illusion of control. The contract specifies that an advisory committee appointed by Koch decides which candidates should be considered. The foundation can also withdraw its funding if it's not happy with the faculty's choice or if the hires don't meet "objectives" set by Koch during annual evaluations. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/10/974786/-The-Koch-Brothers-and-Florida-State-UniversityAcademic-Freedom-for-Sale?via=sidebyuserrec

mloburgio 3 years, 11 months ago

former senator sam brownback paided his staff of 44 people in washington and ks. $1,278,495.00 from 10/01/2009 to 03/31/10 pay period.

the pay period 04/01/2010 to 9/30/2010 his staff of 43 people was paid

$1,517,451 that's a $238.956 raise. average of $5.557.12 per person.

so from 10/01/2009 to 09/30/2010 the taxpayers paid his staff $2,795,946 not including the rent for at least 4 regional offices in ks. plus sams salary of $174.000 per year.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Maybe, just maybe, SHAM is going to pay for the implementation of a NEW STATE LOGO with his own money.

Randall Uhrich 3 years, 11 months ago

Step 1.: Dumb down the electorate. Step 2.: Elect republicans. Step 3.: Ignore the wishes of the people and pull crap like this, which is probably (or should be) unconstitutional. Brownback should expect a massive backlash when people realize that he is acting against their interests in almost all ways, while supporting a corporate and fundamentalist christian agenda.

woodscolt 3 years, 11 months ago

Bringing jobs to Kansas, or wait , taking jobs from kansans. Just put em in the unemployment line and blame it on obama

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Just laid off 11 from KDHE yesterday. +11 at the unemployment line. Thanks SHAM! How about that new state logo?

blogme 3 years, 11 months ago

Couldn't agree with you more DeaconBlue. If it's such a good thing, pony up libs. Just like when some of the the "rich" say they don't pay enough taxes. Really? Send in how much you think you're shorting Uncle Sam then you self important blowhards!

From the article: "all five commission employees would be placed on administrative leave immediately and terminated June 10."

All five of them? Somehow this is the end of the world if you believe the acrimony being posited in regards to this unbelievably huge problem. I don't like to see anyone lose a job, but exactly why are the arts in the govt budget anyway?

Oh, and the evil rich are going to benefit now because of this. You just know it's true. LOL! Somehow the Koch brothers are going to put that $700K straight into their pockets. Putting tin foil hat back on now...Or is a tin foil hat not artsy enough for libs to wear?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

The reason there was an Arts Commission was because it was low-cost and effective. And that's precisely why it was eliminated.

Your and Sam's narrow, petty ideology can't stand having an example of how government can and does work. So flush it down the toilet under the pretext of fiscal conservatism, all while handing out corporate welfare hundreds and thousands of times greater to your corporate benefactors (and in Sam's case, collecting quite a bit himself.)

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

As a matter of fact, both Medicare and Social Security have been extremely successful. That doesn't mean there aren't problems (mostly because of corporate corruption and malfeasance of one sort or another.)

And executive orders to assassinate people certainly isn't a policy that Republicans intend to eliminate.

blogme 3 years, 11 months ago

I was talking with someone before Madoff made the news about how a relative of mine didn't have any retirement and was participating in the govt scheme. That person didn't quite get my gist. Wonder if she does now with all the press Madoff got?

woodscolt 3 years, 11 months ago

certainly wouldn't expect donations from the worker bee live in black and white conservative right wing extremists.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

WE can't afford the arts, but how about a new state logo!?!? How much will it cost to implement that, I wonder? All unused envelopes, business cards, etcetera bearing the old state logo will be disposed of on July 1. Because, hey! We have money to burn.

My ears are still ringing from the cries of Kansans, "WE WANT A NEW BRAND!"

Sham. Sham. Sham.

cowboy 3 years, 11 months ago

Since Sam doesn't believe in socialism he should scratch out a check to the government for the following: Year Conservation Subsidies Disaster Subsidies Commodity Subsidies Total USDA Subsidies 1995-2009 1995 $4,810 $0 $0 $4,810 1996 $4,810 $0 $0 $4,810 1997 $4,810 $0 $0 $4,810 1998 $0 $0 $0 $0 1999 $3,595 $0 $0 $3,595 2000 $3,595 $0 $103 $3,698 2001 $3,475 $0 $173 $3,648 2002 $3,595 $0 $0 $3,595 2003 $3,595 $0 $436 $4,031 2004 $3,595 $0 $0 $3,595 2005 $3,595 $0 $216 $3,811 2006 $3,595 $0 $633 $4,228 2007 $3,595 $0 $421 $4,016 2008 $0 $0 $205 $205 2009 $0 $0 $0 $0 Total $46,665 $0 $2,187 $48,852

Alceste 3 years, 11 months ago

....good show cowboy.....and what the Clown got compared to what his relatives got from the same program is nothing. Let's see what the Brownback family is bringing in:

(Source: http://www.ewg.org )

Glen R. Brownback has been paid over $374,864 since 1995. That's out in Linn County and does not include 2010 and 2011.

http://farm.ewg.org/persondetail.php?custnumber=A08081676&summlevel=address

James R Brownback has been paid over $332,395 since 1995. That's out in Linn County (and a little bit from Anderson County) and does not include 2010 and 2011.

http://farm.ewg.org/persondetail.php?custnumber=A07986984

Oh heck....here's a link to the Clan.....you tell me if they're all related or not. http://farm.ewg.org/addrsearch.php?s=yup&stab=KS&city=&zip=&last=Brownback&first=&stab=KS&i=Search+Recipients&fullname=&stab2=AL

trinity 3 years, 11 months ago

thanks for the links...amazingly disgusting, or disgustingly amazing....

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Here's something else disgustingly amazing: We can't afford the arts, but have plenty of cash available for a new state logo! A logo that is not needed.

speedy47 3 years, 11 months ago

First one's Dad, James is little brother, Alan is another brother, and most of the rest are cousins. Our tax dollars at work in the Governors family.

cowboy 3 years, 11 months ago

Yep Alceste , I saw that same list but honestly didn't know if they all were related. Seems to be a Brownback family tradition of sucking welfare from the government.

tanaumaga 3 years, 11 months ago

This man needs a very hard pie to the face, followed by a open handed slap....and then the backhand as well...and then a kick to his womanhood.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

You, Sir/Ma'am, are a poet...Is that you, Common?

somedude20 3 years, 11 months ago

What do you expect from a person who believes that man/woman walked on the earth the same time as the dinosaurs. Noah's ark, ha, what a joke. This clown makes Pee Wee Herman look like MLK. Darn backwoods people....you got a pretty mouth

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

The issue is the way in which he did this, skirting the line-item veto because it could be over-ridden, and clearly going against the legislature's vote on the subject.

Question - if the Commission continues to receive the funding, but loses all of the employees, what happens?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

Sam will use the money to buy some nice art for the Koch brothers.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

Rich fat cat wants to have a big party. Doesn't have enough chickens. Takes one of the two chickens that his tenant farmer has. Runs over the other with his SUV.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

We're implementing a new state logo. Isn't that why people voted him in? The state simply needs a new brand.

kshiker 3 years, 11 months ago

You have an employee of the executive branch who is openly challenging his boss and engaging in illegal advocacy and lobbying (which state officials are prohibited from doing). Why the heck should he not be fired? Good riddance. Elections have consequences and the Governor has the constitutional authority to determine the composition and function of the executive branch. Did I miss when the people spoke in favor of the continuance of the Arts Commission? Did I miss a ballot initiative or referendum? Priorities change and arts supporters will have to align their money with their mouth if they want those functions to continue. Bravo to the Governor!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

No one denies that Brownback has every right to be a narrow-minded, petty jerk. I suspect that proving that point was his main point.

His elimination of a successful state commission, and the jobs that go with it, for no demonstrable purpose other than to make an ideological statement did that quite well.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

You're wrong. But facts are immaterial to your ideology, so nothing surprising there.

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

You did in fact miss the part where people spoke in favor of it, to the legislature, which is probably why they refused to eliminate it.

lawslady 3 years, 11 months ago

Correct. Executive branch employees are subject to the Governor's power. However, the LEGISLATURE created and empowers the Arts Commission. Thus, the agency is an extension of the LEGISLATURE. See http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_74/Article_52/74-5204.html That means that these employees can only be hired and fired by the Arts Commission. An administrative agency - and the governor - are still subject to state law.

If these employees don't get an attorney to seek an immediate retraining order, they're crazy!

Joseph Jarvis 3 years, 11 months ago

@kshiker: What law bars Kansas government officials from lobbying?

Generally, I agree with you: there is an ethical conflict where government officials lobby to keep their jobs. But as far as I know, it's only prohibited at the federal level.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

My ears are still ringing from the call of the people....'WE WANT A NEW STATE LOGO!"

Incredible 3 years, 11 months ago

Those who support the Kansas Arts Commission already open their pocketbooks in support of the arts. To suggest otherwise demonstrates a lack of understanding (dare I say ignorance?) as to how the arts are funded and how the little bit of funding from the state leverages other funds. And while the state jobs Brownback just eliminated are government jobs, the ripple effect will eliminate private sectors jobs. Nonprofit sector jobs are private sector jobs. The people in those jobs give of themselves way beyond what they are paid and what they are worth.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

State government can't function under the old logo. Therefore, we have money to burn on a NEW state logo!

All unused business cards, envelopes, etc. will be disposed of on July 1. Because we have money to burn, apparently.

notanota 3 years, 11 months ago

It's also not that big of a portion of the budget, and it gets federal matching funds and creates jobs. Eliminating it makes the state broker.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Dang you and your "truth". BTW, did you hear the good news? WE HAVE A NEW STATE LOGO!

thepianoman 3 years, 11 months ago

Again, I agree with this poster!!! Took the words out of my mouth!! Government dollars should not be used to fund "the arts." Bye-bye KAC!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

This is a statement of ignorance and ideology. (sadly, they are one and the same these days in our austere race to the bottom.)

overthemoon 3 years, 11 months ago

Just think if that was the position of governments entities through out history. No Sistine Chapel Ceiling, (the RCC being a gov't unto itself, using its followers money to buy all kinds of nifty stuff), no National Gallery of Art or any of the Smithsonian Museums (all funding by gov't and private individuals and foundations) no British Museum or Library, no Acropolis...you get the point.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

We can't afford the arts, but we've got money to burn on a new state logo?

mom_of_three 3 years, 11 months ago

too bad you have no idea what or who you are talking about.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

But, we apparently have the money to burn on something as useless as a new state logo?

Balderdash and poppycock! Who's getting paid for the new brand?

Alceste 3 years, 11 months ago

Wait, rockchal1977.....aren't the very things you list the very same activities Browny was doing whilst in Washington, D.C.? Was he eating Quaker Oat meal while getting his free room and board at "C" Street? Want me to list all the little parties he attended to build his "war chest"?

The guy is a buffoon......nonetheless......he WAS elected. The people of Kansas have no one to blame but themselves for the current charlatan in office.....

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Money to burn on a new state logo! Can't afford the arts, but, got dang, we just have to have a new logo!

And you thought I was crazy! This is complete and utter insanity.

overthemoon 3 years, 11 months ago

Attn: Scott Rothschild:

It is not clear from this article if Brownback will place his cadre of campaign contributors on the board of the 'private' foundation he had previously proposed. If so, will these board members be paid? Who will pay them?

Need more info!! Thanks.

Beth Bird 3 years, 11 months ago

We will now be the only state without an Arts Council....Wow....Add that to our education woes and you can see why everyone makes fun of Kansas.....Backwards hicks....

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

At least we got a new logo! (insert inflammatory redneck comment here)

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

We can start calling ourselves 'Brownbacks Kids' instead of Kansans.

jimmyjms 3 years, 11 months ago

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JustNoticed 3 years, 11 months ago

Construction has begune on the Nazified, Christianist Governor's mansion to build a moat around it. Alligators will live there.

pace 3 years, 11 months ago

Brownback had no choice. Koch called him. he keeps his promises to the boys.

DaBellaDaBall 3 years, 11 months ago

Now Brownshirt has gone beyond the Hitler "administration." Even the Nazis spent loads of money on the arts. I guess we will need to find a new nickname for Brownshirt.

blogme 3 years, 11 months ago

Nazis spent loads of money on the arts? Nazis also stole countless pieces of "fine art" as they plundered all across Europe. Or are you trying to insinuate that somehow this cutting of 5 jobs is close to Nazism? Really? Just remember, Nazi is short for Nationalist Socialism. Socialism is something you seem quite enamored with.

DaBellaDaBall 3 years, 11 months ago

Yes, Nazis stole countless pieces of art. What does that have to do w/ anything? I said they spent loads of money on the arts. Whether they plundered Europe has no bearing on the matter.

I am not trying to insinuate that cutting 5 jobs is close to Nazism. My opinion is that Brownshirt would behave much like a Nazi if left w/o constraints. By that I do not mean he would send people to death camps. Not all Nazis were involved with that. I'm talkin' about your garden variety nationalistic, difference-hating Nazi swine.

The fact that the Nazi party was short for National Socialism does not mean they were socialists. They could have called themselves National Pacifists. Would that have made them pacifists?

Finally, what is it about me that makes you believe I am enamored with socialism? The fact that I think Brownshirt is a vile pig is no evidence that I am enamored with socialism. Quite the contrary, I am enamored w/ a caring capitalist system that takes care of its sick and poor, educates its children, and does not get into morality and religion. What's wrong with that, blogface?

Alceste 3 years, 11 months ago

What kind of stuff do you think Sammy has in his own residence hanging on the walls, let alone the "official" residence? Ya think it's Elvis Velvet? How about the bric a brac? Ya think he prefers the Country or Christian motif? hahahahahahahahahahahaha......idiots abound in this hillbilly state!

George Lippencott 3 years, 11 months ago

Some people in this space never cease to amaze me. A significant majority of the state excluding Lawrence elected Mr. Brownback. I suspect the vast majority of them could care less about the Arts Commission. If Mr. Brownback brings jobs they will be happy.

The executive is an independent branch of our government. The legislature has no power over it and can not make it do things short of a veto override. I wonder what our delegation traded to get the commission funded to apparently no avail. Looks like we got had.

I don’t know who decided to make this an all or nothing power showdown with the governor. Having done so, is it surprising that he is exercising his powers. Just what leverage does Lawrence have with the governor? We daily call him everything but loose. I suspect he not only does not care what we think but enjoys flouting us.

When party takes priority over governance than I guess you can expect that to work both ways.

Oh by the by, the headline elsewhere in the LJW that the Republicans have been thwarted is interesting since they control everything. Can you thwart yourself? Maybe not all Republicans believe in social Darwinism?? Is there hope? Should we recognize that?

notanota 3 years, 11 months ago

Guess what? The KAC brings jobs. So far, Brownback has failed to do so. All he's done is cut them with this move. I doubt the majority of Kansas elected him under the idea that he'd eliminate the arts and cut jobs.

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

I hope you're right.

And that they don't vote for somebody similar in the future.

notanota 3 years, 11 months ago

It's been a long time since the pendulum swung this far to the right, and people are already getting buyer's remorse.

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

Lets start with Banning all lobbyists and firing the governor and the 50 people under him and appoint a commission of the people. And by people, i mean people that actually work for a living.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

The implementation of a new state logo will bring loads of cash in. Wait and see.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

I've got a great idea, the legislature should only meet every three years.

zzgoeb 3 years, 11 months ago

Ah yes, the GOP, all about "less government", that is, if you don't like what the legislature does, and you're the GOP governor, just take over, ala, dictators!!! We need to recall Brownback ASAP!!!

evilpenguin 3 years, 11 months ago

Ahh good old Republicans.

"We won't allow you to kill your babies; but we will let them grow up to be uncultured mindless drones with the worst and cheapest education we can provide".

Brownback doesn't have to say the words for us to know this is what he's doing for Kansas.

blogme 3 years, 11 months ago

Since when has whining ever been a penguin trait? OK Roseanne, maybe you should break the circle and actually educate your kids instead of expecting the government to do it all for you. Oh that would mean that you're responsible. Nevermind...I know I shouldn't expect someone to be responsible. DOHT!

evilpenguin 3 years, 11 months ago

And while I'm at it, maybe I'll grow a money tree to pay all the tax to the Government. After all, I won't need to work all day to pay living expenses and tax. Oh wait....that's right....in order to pay tax I have to go out and earn money.....

I would love to stay at home and educate my children, but financially that's not possible and that's the case for many others too. So for now, I'll have to make do with the low quality education that Brownback wants to provide and I'll fill in the gaps and teach my kids about morals and helping others.

akt2 3 years, 11 months ago

Why would the Arts Comission consider themselves immune to budget cuts considering what has happened in our state schools? Welcome back to the real world.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

We can't afford the arts, but we have money to burn on a new state logo?

classclown 3 years, 11 months ago

wmathews (Whitney Mathews) replies…

Let's have this conversation without the immature bickering, guys. May 11, 2011 at 10:39 a.m.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one! Thanks for the laugh.

Considering that roughly 85% of all comments posted at LJW consists of two or more people immaturely bickering and/or calling each other names, it really seems odd to see this comment inserted into one of the tamer "conversations" to take place.

I blame threads. You will note it tends to be the threaders that engage in the juvenile behavior. Perhaps if you did away with threads, the immature behavior will come to an end.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 years, 11 months ago

Brownback and his Republican-Palinist cronies still think those engaged in the "arts" are homosexuals and lay-abouts. Can't have that on the state budget. This is what you get with the Republican Terrorists, fellow citizens, you voted for this White House wannabe, and you got what you asked for. Blindly following a party line got us Hitler.

Read this fast for now I will wait for the Republican owner of this newsrag to remove this message

nouseforaname 3 years, 11 months ago

Long before the invention of money, there was art. And long after the dissolution of money, there will be art.

Alice Brewer 3 years, 11 months ago

so much for elected officials being public servants!

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 11 months ago

Interesting that this showdown Brownback has chosen involves a piddling amount of state money. $700,000.

This is no surprise, as everything Brownback has done to date is about ideology, not pragmatism.

Eliminating the KAC is a shot in the culture wars and means next to nothing to the economy and budget.

George Lippencott 3 years, 11 months ago

Except he can stick it in our eyes. Our response has probably made him very happy.

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 11 months ago

Sounds like a tea party right wing libertarian to me.

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

Sounds like an American practicing his right to free speech thru the Arts. Common is a true american. If you don't like this kind of 'freedom' if you think only cops and the military should have guns, move to China.

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

Sounds like an American practicing his right to free speech thru the Arts. Common is a true american. If you don't like this kind of 'freedom' if you think only cops and the military should have guns, move to China.

bad_dog 3 years, 11 months ago

How does one "insight" violence? Hmm.

bad_dog 3 years, 11 months ago

"Is poetry considered a form of art!"

Is this a question or an exclamatory statement? (or should it be!?)

Now I'm confused...

akt2 3 years, 11 months ago

The turkey sandwich I just made is a work of art. A masterpiece.

overthemoon 3 years, 11 months ago

You don't understand. Art is a dialog between the artist and his idea or subject and a second dialog between the idea or subject and a viewer or user. Therefore, give me your sandwich...my reaction to it will make it somewhat closer to art.

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 11 months ago

Sam the culture warrior is at it again.

Pragmatism and economy be damned, we musy fight the culture wars.

ASeiwert 3 years, 11 months ago

Arts are not only a fantastic way to boost morale (especially in these economically trying times), but to create jobs as well. Think "New Deal," not only did FDR successfully lift the nation out of the Depression, but created quite a few publicly-funded programs that have helped generations of Americans since. The first thing to go in any down economy is the arts, but it shouldn't be. The Kansas population in general may seem to have little appreciation for most types of art, but this doesn't mean we should alienate a large segment of the population to accomplish an end. Because of Brownback's recent decision, many Kansas artists will now be left even more destitute than before. How is this helping the economy, again?

lawslady 3 years, 11 months ago

http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_74/Article_52/74-5204.html Created the Arts Commission and gives it the power to hire and fire the employees of that state agency. What law or constitutional power can anyone point to that overrides that LAW (statute) and gives the Governor the power to hire and fire employees of a state agency created and empowered by the Legislature (who btw also were elected to carry out and represent the people's will).

And the number of jobs that will be lost by this move are not just limited to the KAC. There will be thousands of jobs and local economies hurt by this short-sighted move. IF the Governor really wanted to cut back on government spending, he'd seek to cut back or eliminate the practice of printing up thousands of pages of do-nothing house/senate journals every day the legislature is in session.

Ceallach 3 years, 11 months ago

lawslady (anonymous) says… There will be thousands of jobs and local economies hurt by this short-sighted move.


Thousands of jobs? How much could these jobs pay if drawn from a $700,000 pool?

lawslady 3 years, 11 months ago

The jobs that result from use of that $700,000 are the jobs of people who are hired using the federal and private matching funds that agencies and private companies will no longer qualify for, from the jobs that are created (not funded) by local arts groups who take their paltry state grants and add to them with other funds, by the local tourism industries (restaurants, hotels, shops, etc.) that derive income from art related events (think local arts fairs, theater, etc.) and so forth. The "savings" of $700,000 will end up costing far more in terms of lost revenues from these types of related activities that result from having arts in communities. Economics 101.

blogme 3 years, 11 months ago

And we the people for responsible government spending wonder why the government is in the shape it is in? Sounds like this lady is heading up some department. WWWWWOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!! Talk about conjecture extraordinaire!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

The government isn't in the shape it's in because of anything that the KAC commission did. We are where we are because the elite financial class trashed the economy, and created 9% unemployment (using their statistics-- it's really more like 18%.)

And you think giving them even more money to create more third-world sweatshops will somehow miraculously solve the budget crisis?

scary_manilow 3 years, 11 months ago

I was just coming here to post that. Let the lawsuits commence!

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

my my my, you are a delusional one aren't you. Where do you think your tax dollars go now? Id like to know, you are a very interesting specimen.

lawslady 3 years, 11 months ago

Au contraire. IF The employees in question hire an attorney, THEY will have to pay that attorney (unless one works for them pro bono, which in this case they might). The attorney representing the governor (the AG) is already funded by tax payer dollars. Unless the Gov wants to hire outside counsel. In which case, yes HE WOULD BE COSTING TAX PAYERS MORE MONEY!

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

We can afford a new state logo, we can afford lawsuits.

beatrice 3 years, 11 months ago

Governments have funded the arts for centuries. This backlash by the right, particularly the evangelical right, against the arts is a basic backlash against knowledge. They don't want people thinking too much on any number of subjects.

We don't need less art in our lives.

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

Keep everyone poor, barely educated, and uninformed. Helps a NeoCon sleep well.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Rockchalk1977? Any opinion on our new state logo? Do you believe it was a necessary move? Would you like to know how it affected the deficit? I would. How much did we pay for the logo? Somebody had to design it. Did they hire an artist by chance? Are there royalties to be paid? Maybe Sam doodled it up.

What do you suppose it costs to replace business cards for every state employee? Rough numbers here: 35,000 employees at 20 dollars a box of 100 cards...well, that comes to exactly 700,000 dollars! Next we'll need new envelopes! Who has the state contracted with in these matters? Since this is Kansas, I imagine we're blessed with free envelopes.

But wait, there's more! More 'KICKING THAT DEFICIT CAN!" How much did we pay for the now useless business cards bearing the old logo, which will end up in the circular file? And the old envelopes? Letterhead? These are but a few of the total cost to implement the new logo... =8-}

Today's music trivia -- 30 years ago, today, Bob Marley died: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G18KMb...

CHKNLTL 3 years, 11 months ago

Kansas had an Arts Commission? And used 700,000 taxpayer dollars to fund services to only 290 organizations a year? Let's see, that's a mere $2400 each if all the staff on the Commission itself worked for free, which we all know, nobody works for free in the government. There should be no difficulty in raising such a minute amount of private funding if one seeks the proper donors.

Kyle Chandler 3 years, 11 months ago

You should be the first to set a GOOD example for the rest of the Anti Arts People on here. Tell your boss you know longer want a paycheck and benefits and INSTEAD ask for donations. Good Luck BYE

3 years, 11 months ago

The budget for the Arts Commission wasn't even a drop in the bucket for the overall state budget. This is simply red meat for hard-core conservatives who like to hold these kinds of things up as wrong while we our elected officials protect the billions in subsidies to corporations so they can pad their profit margins , excuse me, I mean, hire more Kansans so that the trickle down theory is hard at it in action. Brownback is squarely in the back pockets of people with money and will do whatever it is necessary to ensure their fortunes. Screw the middle class and the arts is his opinion.

love2fish_ks 3 years, 11 months ago

I love the arts and hate to admit this but.... $700K savings is a no-brainer. The state is broke, employees are getting a cut in pay, benefit cost increase, and fewer workers for the same or increased workload. Although this is a paltry sum, it should be very easy for the $700K to be raised from private sources. I can't believe anything but all the complaining is political grandstanding. The arts commission should easily have their total budge increased 10 fold if private fundraising is tapped. In the long run this will be good for the arts. Greater involvement and a wider base of support. Time for the arts commission to stand on it's own and grow baby grow!!! Good times are ahead! Who wants to orgainize the first Do Co fundraising? I'll be the first in line to purchase banquet tickets to the auction.

lawslady 3 years, 11 months ago

I wish it were that simple. However, if you assume that there is a finite amount of funding available (from any source) for arts, what happens when a state agency must rely solely upon private donations to continue is this: They must compete for the funds available for arts with the very same other art entities that they USED to help by funneling the state AND private donation funds into. Instead of supporting the locals, they now become competitors. In addition to that, the federal/private matching funds that can be made available are often only available to states where the state is helping fund projects. So those matching funds will no longer be available. Thus, without some influx of state funds, the state is now (a) competing for funds with private art entities and (b) no longer receiving $ that would otherwise be used to match state funding.

beatrice 3 years, 11 months ago

It isn't a "no-brainer," as you say, if it ends up costing the state much more in federal and other funds. In addition, the arts are known to generate income and tax revenue through out of state visitors and others participating in various events and attending things like museum exhibitions.

I disagree that the arts are something that should be funded (and enjoyed?) exclusively by private donors. Relying only on private donations can easily lead to questionable practices, like museums putting on private collection exhibitions, which ultimately enhance the value of the collection for the donors even if they aren't really worthy of such recognition. In addition, there are plenty of private donations already going to the arts. What Brownback just did was put people on the unemployment line as a symbolic victory for Republicans of the culture wars. Is it really worth it?

This is far from a "no-brainer."

Joseph Jarvis 3 years, 11 months ago

@Scott Rothschild: I don't really understand the "how" part of the story. Is the governor impounding the funds? Can you clarify?

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

The govna is using the funds to implement a new state logo.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Rough numbers here: 35,000 employees at 20 dollars a box of 100 cards...well, that comes to exactly 700,000 dollars! Next we'll need new envelopes! Who has the state contracted with in these matters? Since this is Kansas, I imagine we're blessed with free envelopes.

Soapbox 3 years, 11 months ago

Kansas voted for Brownback and that is what we got. You Lawrence liberals have no idea how the outside of Douglas County WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Richard Heckler 3 years, 11 months ago

Repubs don't like creating jobs or keeping people on the the job. It improves ones quality.

Sam Brownback the big government dictator = ego booster. He is the chief of deception which means he cannot be trusted.

circuitsboard 3 years, 11 months ago

The KAC brought in an estimated $15,000,000 in revenue in exchange for that $700,000, roughly, wasn't it?

Funnier still, I left an opinion on Brownback's Facebook page sharing my opinion on the matter. It was non-derogatory, non-inflammatory, yet it was erased, I was removed from the page, and blocked from commenting on the page.

And yes, I voted for him. That won't happen again.

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 11 months ago

Yep. That's called money well spent.

Brownback would rather make an ideological statement in the culture war than help the economy.

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

I'm glad to hear it.

I hope that all of those who voted for Brownback and others will hold them accountable if those voters are unhappy with their activities while in power.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

You should go back to Sham's facebook and post your opinion of his wasteful spending of tax dollars on a new state logo. A new state logo that is not needed. We can't afford the arts, but we can afford a new logo? Pure insanity.

beatrice 3 years, 11 months ago

I guess the next move will be the removal of the John Steuart Curry murals from the Kansas state capitol. They would easily bring many millions on the open market. Heck, why not remove all art from public buildings and sell it! Bare walls for all!

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

They should make Goodland take down their giant Van Gogh.

http://www.kansastravel.org/giantvangogh.htm

What this state needs is a new logo!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 11 months ago

Oh, come now. The walls wouldn't have to be baren of art. We could put hundreds of artists at work creating portraits and statues of Sam (the bigger the better) all over the state.

bad_dog 3 years, 11 months ago

Yes, and Sham could forever be known as "The Baron of Art".

4getabouit 3 years, 11 months ago

Brownshirt is just getting started. Unless you work as a slave for the Koch Brothers, there will be no reason to be in Kansas after 8 years of this AH. Brownback is already rich. He married into money. The rest of us can go eat cake.

DaBellaDaBall 3 years, 11 months ago

Yes, Nazis stole countless pieces of art. What does that have to do w/ anything? I said they spent loads of money on the arts. Whether they plundered Europe has no bearing on the matter.

I am not trying to insinuate that cutting 5 jobs is close to Nazism. My opinion is that Brownshirt would behave much like a Nazi if left w/o constraints. By that I do not mean he would send people to death camps. Not all Nazis were involved with that. I'm talkin' about your garden variety nationalistic, difference-hating Nazi swine.

The fact that the Nazi party was short for National Socialism does not mean they were socialists. They could have called themselves National Pacifists. Would that have made them pacifists?

Finally, what is it about me that makes you believe I am enamored with socialism? The fact that I think Brownshirt is a vile pig is no evidence that I am enamored with socialism. Quite the contrary, I am enamored w/ a caring capitalist system that takes care of its sick and poor, educates its children, and does not get into morality and religion. What's wrong with that, blogface?

Newell_Post 3 years, 11 months ago

If there are no staffers to spend the money, then the money can't be spent. This is a bureaucratic maneuver that goes back to the Roman Empire, or earlier. If SB had any real guts, he would do the same thing to a bunch of other non-essential functions to balance the budget.

I love the arts and donate my own money to several arts-related things. But if this particular piece of the bureaucracy ceases to exist, the sky will not fall, the Huns will not invade, dogs will not start living with cats, and ugliness will not take over the state.

This is the easiest bit of budget cutting that exists. The question here is why he hasn't done more of this to more functions sooner.

mom_of_three 3 years, 11 months ago

I realize he needs to cut the budget, but here is what I think happened. Brownback - i want to cut the arts commission citizens - no, don't. legislators - constituants say no. so no brownback - i am gonna do it anyway, behind your back and sneaky like.

lets take our chances on a private arts commission who hopefully will be able to get the same federal grants as the state program, (because we dont know for sure) and then hope they can fund the projects and bring back the revenue to the state.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 3 years, 11 months ago

Consider Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs. Those who cannot afford bread don't spend money on poetry. Kansas (and many other states) needs to consider eliminating many other non-essential programs so that we can keep the elderly warm, educate our children and keep the poor from starving - without raising taxes AGAIN.

I think some of us are in denial about how bad this economy is. We cannot remain in a recession without it eventually spiraling into a depression. We need to cut spending... badly.

If GSB kills the KAC, pats himself on the back and stops there: He's a douchebag. If he keeps going and attacks the pet projects of the rich and conservative as well: He's what we need.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

The Govna is in denial.... He ordered up a new, and unneeded, state logo. How much money will be wasted on that?

coloradoan 3 years, 11 months ago

Oldie - I have been on the short end of the heirarchy that you refer to; however, the purpose of programs like the KAC is to promote Kansas, and to help define a culture that will entice companies that are now in other states to open operations in Kansas. Many of them are senstive to the reality that high-quality workers want high-quality education for their kids, cultural enrichment, and access to trails and bikeways. If Kansas cannot or will not offer these amenities, companies will choose other states. This is not welfare for the artists - this is about bringing in businesses, ones that provide jobs.

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

Except that, in addition to cutting arts, he's also cutting social services and education as well.

And, of course, he won't do what you mention in your last sentence, I'm pretty certain.

mom_of_three 3 years, 11 months ago

funny, on his facebook, he likes Kansas 150, which was funded/supported...hmmm..by the kansas arts commission.....

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

But, the new state logo is very artistic.

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Has anyone been keeping a tally on the number of jobs to date Sham has brought into the state vs the number he's added to the unemployment line?

Did I mention we can't afford the arts, but we have money to burn on a new state logo?

Crazy_Larry 3 years, 11 months ago

Will anyone hold Sham's feet to the fire about this new state logo debacle?

Jeff Kilgore 3 years, 11 months ago

What an uneducated, stupid, idiotic, knee-jerk reaction! Any leader with an ounce of sense knows better than than to pull a stupid move like this. And it's moves like this one and our infamous state board of education that makes Kansas look as forward thinking as Neanderthals.

Maybe we can edit our new motto:

Kansas: It's as backwards as you think.

Alceste 3 years, 11 months ago

The PEOPLE of Kansas elected this clown brownback to the job. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. WE are getting exactly what we, essentially, ASKED for.

At least these "art commission" people were all in patronage jobs anyway......they signed up for the game of "who ya know"....now they're findin' out what it is like to not know the "right people". shrug

If people actually think "voting" means a rats rear end in Kansas....they need to re-address their thinking.

Let's see....the people of Wisconsin are successfully recalling the vote on over 15 state Senators. Could such a thing happen in KanzAss? Get out of here! hahahahahahahhaa

Jay_lo 3 years, 11 months ago

Results of a two-year Kansas Economic Impact Of The Arts Study indicate that expenditures by arts and culture organizations and audiences total more than $153.5 million.

That $153.5 million generates the following:

4612 full time equivalent jobs $95 million in household income $6 million in local government tax revenues $9 million in state government tax revenues

Read the full report. http://arts.ks.gov/economic_impact/do...

$9 million in state government tax revenues as a return on an investment of less than $700,000. I wish my 401K could do as well.

Of course not all of the $153.5 million is directly attributable to the Kansas Arts Commission, but how well will the arts continue to play out in the only state without an Arts Commission? There may very well be a large and costly backlash.

The Kansas Arts Commission's $700,000 budget covers not only the wages of the five paid members, but also provides grants and establishes arts programs throughout the state, as well as paying for advertising, a very informative web site, etc.

For Brownback to turn a blind eye to the economic impact of the arts in Kansas, and focus only on the small but visible spending shows that he is more concerned with making a show of his tax cuts than he is with improving the actual state economy.

jafs 3 years, 11 months ago

The question is what the correct scope and function of government is, and it's a good question to consider.

Many seem to take it for granted that the government exists in order to do a wide variety of things, including creating jobs.

That's only one way to look at it.

25 3 years, 11 months ago

not spending money on non-essential things = non-cultured. It's rightly called common sense

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