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UN would settle for monitored visit with soldier suspected of giving classified information to WikiLeaks

April 20, 2011

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This undated file photo obtained by The Associated Press shows Bradley Manning, the U.S. Army private suspected of being the source of some of the unauthorized classified information disclosed on the WikiLeaks website.

This undated file photo obtained by The Associated Press shows Bradley Manning, the U.S. Army private suspected of being the source of some of the unauthorized classified information disclosed on the WikiLeaks website.

— The United Nations' torture investigator says he would reluctantly settle for a supervised jailhouse visit with the soldier suspected of giving classified U.S. documents to WikiLeaks.

Juan Mendez said in a statement Monday that he would still prefer to meet privately with Army Pfc. Bradley Manning at the Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va. He says confidential interviews ensure the credibility of detainees who have alleged mistreatment.

Mendez says he has not received military authorization for any visit.

Manning has been confined alone 23 hours a day at Quantico since July 29. His civilian lawyer contends the pretrial confinement conditions are punitive. The military says Manning's treatment meets constitutional requirements.

Manning supporters have complained to the U.N. that the military is violating Manning's civil rights.

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Liberty275 4 years, 1 month ago

The UN will get what we think they need. And they will thank us for it.

"The US is really starting to look like a third world country"

We look like a third-world country because we make a traitor sleep naked?

Evan Ridenour 4 years, 1 month ago

Yes traitor. He released confidential war information that has been proven to have been used to target American operatives and allies. Maybe you would have even a semblence of an argument if Manning had choosen specific documents that were necessary to show his point and redacted them to avoid injuring and killing bystanders but instead he choose to undertake an action that not only betrayed the trust of his country and his service but lead to peoples deaths.

The definition of the word traitor.

deec 4 years, 1 month ago

"proven to have been used to target American operatives and allies."-source?

jhawkinsf 4 years, 1 month ago

I,too, suspect we have a traitor on our hands. However, every American accused of a crime deserves his/her day in court. Every American is entitled to a speedy trial. That is exactly what should happen and after 12 honest Americans have rendered their verdict, then we can all say he either is or he is not a traitor.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 1 month ago

Except Bradley Manning is in the military and, as a US soldier, quite literally has no Constitutional rights. He has no guarantee of a speedy trial. He has no right to a jury trial. He has no guarantee against "cruel and unusual" punishment. He will be presumed guilty until proven innocent. He will be tried, convicted and punished by a military tribunal and may even face the death penalty. All of this is in accordance with the US Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is about as different from civilian law as a pony is from a cow.

jhawkinsf 4 years, 1 month ago

I don't know much about the military court system.
I know rhetoric is sometimes used here and I'm having trouble determining if all those things you list are true or if you're using some literary license.
Is there really a presumption of guilt? Can he really be held indefinitely without trial? No jury? You can't really "know" he will be convicted, it's an educated guess, right? Really, are these things true?

Evan Ridenour 4 years, 1 month ago

They obviously aren't true.

You can find the statutes that govern the types of issues cait48 claimed at the link below.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/usc_sup_01_10_10_A_20_II_30_47.html

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 1 month ago

This is not "Obama's prison". This is the US military's prison. See my post above.

deec 4 years, 1 month ago

Among the things I've learned from wikileaks: Mcdonald's tried to use diplomatic channels to get a judge favorable to them to hear a franchise lawsuit in El Salvador. The Vatican was upset that Irish authorities didn't use the proper channels to request evidence about child rape that had gone on for decades in Ireland. They were not upset about the crimes, they were upset about diplomatic etiquette not being followed. Dyncorp used U.S. funds to pimp little boys to Afghan officials.

Cait McKnelly 4 years, 1 month ago

I also learned that one of the documents "leaked" was a picnic menu.

These are our "state secrets".

pace 4 years, 1 month ago

We let the alibi ride, we are the ones being creepy. It is shady business and it shouldn't be. torture, secret prisons, not good. bad.

deec 4 years, 1 month ago

Calling someone you disagree with a communist is sooo last century. It's terrorist or liberal now. Try to keep up.

speak_up 4 years, 1 month ago

How exactly does supporting freedom of speech and free exchange of information make one a communist? Don't throw around those big words if you don't know what they mean.

oldvet 4 years, 1 month ago

The UN should be given the option to kiss their butts while this traitor is shipped off to Gitmo.

deec 4 years, 1 month ago

He has been neither tried nor convicted so it is incorrect to assume he is a traitor.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 1 month ago

A government who feels the people its serve should not be trusted to know what it does is a dictatorship.

No essential state secrets that threatened national security were leaked.

He is a hero and our government has failed at it´s job.

Kontum1972 4 years, 1 month ago

and how many of your children if u have any... have served... no he failed his oath and what branch of the service have u been in?

or you one of those arm-chair patriots.....

i was 20 when i went to vietnam i flew gunships for one year..sure that war sucked....but i did my job.... i knew the consequences if i was captured...i would of killed myself instead of being captured to derail the threat of being tortured..u probably would of ratted out your fellow soldiers..just save your hide...

ivalueamerica 4 years, 1 month ago

And yet you continue to shame your service by many of your posts here on other topics that clearly promote values that are contrary to the US Constitution.

I appreciate your service to protect and defend our country, but then to return and destroy it is shameful.

Kontum1972 4 years, 1 month ago

Manning didnt understand the oath of allegience he took to defend the USA..all soldiers take this oath..to defend your country against all enemies foreign and domestic...he should of stayed home with his parents....and his X-Box.

deec 4 years, 1 month ago

Perhaps he understood it too well. His duty was to defend his country from domestic enemies as well. A government that governs in secret is something to fear and expose to the light of day.

deec 4 years, 1 month ago

Perhaps he understood it too well. His duty was to defend his country from domestic enemies as well. A government that governs in secret is something to fear and expose to the light of day.

pace 4 years, 1 month ago

No I am not a traitor, just a fair person. That of course takes effort. I like law. IF you like taking the easy gory way to power over others, you must be a teapartier. I like cops, jails, courts run on the up and up. The sleazy underhanded crooked ways are many of the congress of today and of many yesterdays but that is something we fight. If we lose that fight we will lose our rights, our homes, our jobs, our schools, our churches and our infrastructure. Cheap, cheesy, crooked ways get you gang wars and disease.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 1 month ago

He's gonna be in Leavenworth. You guys can drive over and throw violets to him over the wall.

wtfusa 4 years, 1 month ago

I am fairly certain that no significant US interests were harmed by the release of these documents, unless you want to call the corrupt mid-east dictatorships valuable to the US. Also, Bradley has been charged, not convicted of these crimes. He has a very good chance to argue protections from the whistle-blower laws designed to protect those who expose government corruption. Military or not, he is innocent until guilty, which leads me to believe these incarnation tactics are meant to break him before trial.

on Manning's oath to the US~ he had a chance to give all of these documents to a foreign power that would keep them secret. but instead he made the info public for all- in effect making it all mostly useless for anyone that could really threaten US security. He also revealed this GIANT GAPING HOLE IN OUR WIRE TRANSMISSIONS that are suppose to be "classified"

All in all, I think Bradley Manning is a pretty good guy that will have a monument in D.C. when my generation is running the show.

Eileen Jones 4 years, 1 month ago

I hope his lawyers sue the hell out of those responsible for his treatment in the last prison he was in. And win.

Kontum1972 4 years, 1 month ago

Manning is the kind of soldier who would rat-out his brothers in arms out to save his pathedic butt.........he deserves a rope or a firing squad

traitor!

all u arm-chair warriors dont know what your talking about...... a soldiers duty is to defend the constitution....u swear this ...so what makes him special?

Manning doesnt belong the the general public...the US Military owns him ...not mom and daddy.

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