Topeka — Kris Kobach, who helped write the controversial immigration law in Arizona, says terrorists are streaming over the United States-Mexico border, armed Mexican cartels have taken over some territory on the U.S. side, and that some Democrats support illegal immigration because they see potential voters.
Kobach’s comments were made during a wide-ranging talk that he gave last week in the Statehouse at the National Security Begins in the Great Plains conference, which was organized by several groups that are outspoken about illegal immigration. They include the Federal Immigration Reform and Enforcement (FIRE) Coalition, the Patriot Coalition and the November Patriots.
“This is a really big security threat,” said Kobach, who is a former Kansas Republican Party chairman and candidate for the GOP nomination for secretary of state.
He is also a law professor at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, and has served under former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft.
He has taken a lead role nationally in helping craft legislation and defend in court several measures against illegal immigration, including the new law in Arizona that allows police to question suspects about their citizenship. The law has created a national uproar, with critics saying it violates the Constitution’s provisions against unreasonable search and seizure and will lead to racial profiling. Supporters say it follows the Constitution and is needed because the federal government is doing a poor job of keeping out illegal immigrants.
Kobach said the issue of stopping illegal immigrants at the border is a matter of national security. In 2005, the Border Patrol captured 3,722 people crossing from Mexico into the United States who were from countries that are considered state sponsors of terrorism, Kobach said. He said that probably represents one-fourth of the total from those countries who entered the United States illegally.
He said President Barack Obama’s recent commitment of 1,200 National Guard troops to the border area was “too little, too late.” Kobach said at least 10,000 troops should be sent and some of those should be used to take back hills in remote border areas that are controlled by Mexican drug cartels. “There are parts of American soil controlled by cartels,” he said.
Kobach also said the federal government needs to finish building a wall between the U.S. and Mexico. He said the wall should stretch across the entire 1,952-mile border.
He said some Democrats oppose securing the border because they have calculated that at some point amnesty will be approved, allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens, and then those people will vote for Democrats.
“They want as many voters as possible,” he said.
Asked by a member in the audience what the state of Kansas should do, Kobach recommended the passage of two measures that have been approved in Arizona. One is the recent immigration law, and the other is a measure that requires that employers check a worker’s eligibility to work in the U.S. through the E-Verify system, which is a free, online federal database. Opponents of using E-Verify say it is sometimes inaccurate and is of little use when a worker uses phony or stolen documents. An E-Verify proposal in Kansas was shot down at the behest of business groups.
Kobach concluded that problems along the border with Mexico pose a major terroristic threat to the United States, and added, “Every state is a border state now.”
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Orwell (anonymous) says…
1. Scare people
2. Be as partisan as possible
3. Build a wall on the southern border of ca-az-nm-tx.
Yeah, excellent platform for Kansas Secretary of State.
N_Trenched (anonymous) replies…
Scare people - The destruction of our southern border by the influx of illegals and drug cartels.
Be as partisan as possible - The ignorance of the left in dealing with this issue in order to appease an illegitimate voting base.
Build a wall - Is only the first step in slowing the invasion.
While the left runs its party with emotion, I have no option but to support those who at least use rational thought to put its country's interests above a group of people who could care less about the future of America. We all saw the Democrats applauding Calderon as he berated the Arizona law in front of congress. Such harsh words for a man who enforces virtually the exact same law on the southern Mexico border.
N_Trenched (anonymous) replies…
Scare people - The destruction of our southern border by the influx of illegals and drug cartels.
Be as partisan as possible - The ignorance of the left in dealing with this issue in order to appease an illegitimate voting base.
Build a wall - Is only the first step in slowing the invasion.
While the left runs its party with emotion, I have no option but to support those who at least use rational thought to put its country's interests above a group of people who could care less about the future of America. We all saw the Democrats applauding Calderon as he berated the Arizona law in front of congress. Such harsh words for a man who enforces virtually the exact same law on the southern Mexico border.
WilburM (anonymous) says…
How many cases of voting fraud in Kansas over the past ten years?
How much intimidation is possible against Hispanics to limit their (legal) voting? KK wants to reduce KS turnout, among legal voters. He won't say that, but across the country, that is the effect of the policies he seeks to put in place.
In the end, a political "solution" to a non-problem in Kansas (illegals voting).
rtpayton (anonymous) replies…
I'm sure voter fraud took place. In the wall street journal Larry Lomax the registrar of voters in Las Vegas says he believes 48% of Acorn's forms are clearly fraudulent.
ebyrdstarr (anonymous) replies…
Any organization that collects voter registration forms is legally required to submit all of those forms to the election authorities. So, yes, ACORN and other organizations turn in bad forms. But ACORN separated out those clearly fraudulent cards and marked them as such. They weren't trying to register Mickey Mouse to vote. They were just complying with the law by submitting every filled-out form. And there's a difference between voter fraud and voter registration fraud.
Boston_Corbett (anonymous) says…
What a maroon.
guesswho (anonymous) replies…
a maroon what? the color maroon?
or did you mean coconut macaroon?
jayhawkca (anonymous) replies…
How ironic.
jayhawkca (anonymous) replies…
How ironic.
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
Speaking of illegal border crossings:
“An illegal immigrant from Iran named Hamid Malekpour was discovered last month smuggling a huge load of sniper rifles and high-powered weaponry across the Canadian border into Washington State. He has since been arrested and charged with entering the country illegally with firearms and ammunition, as well as filing a false report with a federal agency.
“It has been covered locally and by some bloggers, but that's pretty much it….
“He repeatedly crossed the border and took trips back and forth to Iran under different aliases, while using a phony gun dealership as a front for his operations called, "McMinnville Hunting & Police Supplies Inc."--an obscure, shuttered office with no signs that the local police had never heard of, which had a bogus, half-constructed web site and an expired business license.
“He was also caught in a number of lies about everything from his passport to why he was entering the country.
“Again, even a broken clock is still right twice per day. Eventually, we're going to have to rely on something more than the persistent incompetence of those seeking to mass-murder us.”
http://www.examiner.com/x-35976-Conse...
The sheriff's office does get a little hysterical about the 50cal rifles.....
ivalueamerica (anonymous) replies…
The Arizona law would not have changed this case.
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beatrice (anonymous) replies…
What part of "Canada" don't you understand?
Thanks for another useless cut and paste there snap, you very intelligent poster.
rtpayton (anonymous) says…
The Arizona law mirrors the federal law if one takes the time to read the law. I know this takes a little time so some prefer to slander Kris as an individual that hates. I don't know if Kris hates or not. But to judge him on this law would make all federal employees that work for ICE or the Border Patrol haters. I don't believe this is the case.
ivalueamerica (anonymous) replies…
Actually, it is very dishonest to keep repeating that this law simply mirrors the federal law. It mirrors only in the fact that the crime is the same.
Where it strays, and what creates some of the Constitutional crisis is the enforcement and the lack of standards.
The Supreme Court has made it pretty clear that American Citizens can not be required to carry proof of citizenship with them at all times, yet with the Arizona law, an American citizen can be walking his dog, it poops and he does not pick it up, be demanded proof of citizenship and if he does not present it, it is possible he could be at a deportation center within a matter of an hour. That violates the 4th and 14th amendments right there. Nevermind the fact that it is illegal for states to create immigration law (why prop 187 was rendered illegal in California) Nevermind the fact that since there are no standards to determine how to define "suspected illegal immigrant" and generally blanket laws without standards of usually defeated in the courts...
If this was ultimately a message to the feds that they have failed, (and I freely admit that every president in the last 50 years has failed on this, especially Reagan when he made the laws that allow blanket amnesty), the message will make a lot of lawyers rich and cost Arizona a lot of money.
I suggest we defeat illegal immigration without violating the Constitution.
rtpayton (anonymous) replies…
Gov. Jan Brewer has ordered a state police training board to prepare training standards to prevent racial profiling in enforcing the law. This law clearly follows the Constitution by making the federal government enforce the laws currently in place. Obama and Brewer discussed this recently.
ivalueamerica (anonymous) replies…
They keep going back and re-working the law, in fact they have re-written it twice, and now she is trying to define standards, but not actually attaching them to the law...and you call that Constitutionally sound?
Interesting standard you have for supporting the Constitution.
deskboy04 (anonymous) says…
There is a lot of drug violence just across the border. I am worried that this violence will spread.
average (anonymous) says…
rtpayton -
I don't recall anything in Federal Law that allows random citizens to sue (in civil courts) officials they don't believe are enforcing immigration laws 'to the fullest extent possible', as is part of the Arizona law.
That provision is going to be a problem going forward. Because it's not just going to be old white Matlock fans filing those suits. Several hispanic groups are planning to start suing under that provision if cops *don't* check legal status (and detain as necessary) every single person they come in contact with.
RalphReed (Ralph Reed) says…
"He said some Democrats oppose securing the border because they have calculated that at some point amnesty will be approved, allowing illegal immigrants to become citizens, and then those people will vote for Democrats.
'They want as many voters as possible,' he said."
**
Partisanship. pure and simple. Kobach knows exactly how people will read that quote. They won't read, "...some Democrats oppose securing...," instead they will read "...Democrats oppose securing...." He knows exactly what he's doing.
/*****/
"Asked by a member in the audience what the state of Kansas should do, Kobach recommended the passage of two measures that have been approved in Arizona. One is the recent immigration law, and the other is a measure that requires that employers check a worker’s eligibility to work in the U.S. through the E-Verify system, which is a free, online federal database. Opponents of using E-Verify say it is sometimes inaccurate and is of little use when a worker uses phony or stolen documents. An E-Verify proposal in Kansas was shot down at the behest of business groups.
Kobach concluded that problems along the border with Mexico pose a major terroristic threat to the United States, and added, 'Every state is a border state now.' "
**
Two things here.
1. He wants something in place that businesses do not want for a multitude of reasons going beyond the fact that it's a pain in the @$$ to use.
2. He's going back to the mantra of, "Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid."
/*****/
It's interesting. If he gets elected and Brownback gets elected, then we'll have a theocratic police state. WOO HOO!
nugget (anonymous) says…
Klown.
bartstop (anonymous) says…
Why do all the Republicans want to go after the immigrants instead of the employers? Fine the hell out of the employers who hire illegal's and this non-sense will stop. Ironically that's what Mexico does. They don't have immigration problems.
Fatty_McButterpants (anonymous) replies…
Maybe the reason that Mexico doesn't have immigration problems is because illegal immigrants there are routinely beaten, raped, robbed, and murdered. Yep, that's a great immigration policy!
Fatty_McButterpants (anonymous) replies…
Maybe the reason that Mexico doesn't have immigration problems is because illegal immigrants there are routinely beaten, raped, robbed, and murdered. Yep, that's a great immigration policy!
texburgh (anonymous) replies…
The anti-Mexican ideologues like Kobach talk a big game but when e-verify (Kobach loves it) was before the Kansas legislature, why was it killed? Because Dems wanted illegals voting (as Kobach contends)? No - because the Kansas Chamber of Commerce and the Kansas Livestock Association went nuts. You see, KCC and KLA and other "business" interests like depending on low wage illegals who don't need/get health insurance and will never complain about working too long or too hard for fear of being turned in and deported. Illegals are good for business! Just ask the Kansas chamber of commerce and the Republican "business friendly" legislators who will do anything for the KCC. Including changing their mind on immigration in between elections.
redneck (anonymous) replies…
Sounds to me like Arizona IS going after both the employer and the immigrants. Why do you want to allow them to keep breaking the law, just because they are a minority? White people like myself, go to friggin prison for not paying ALL of our taxes. I don't get off just paying SOME of my taxes, so why should they? BTW, there is no reason for anybody to sneak south into Mexico. That is why they don't have an imigration problem on their north border. Sounds like people who sneak across their south border, are subject to very harsh punishment. This nonsence has to stop!!
skinny (Richard Johnson) says…
bartstop, because it is the LAW!!!!
bartstop (anonymous) says…
The point I'm making is that we need a law to go after the employers. But, it would never get Republican support.
agl (anonymous) replies…
Exactly! They come because they CAN find work and make a living. Kobach needs to go after his good ole Republican buddies.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
There is such a law in Arizona that does go after businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers. Bussinesses can lose their license for repeat offenses. This is why the new law is just about harrassment.
thatonedude (anonymous) says…
Pssstttt.... Hey LJWorld, this sounded less like a news article than it did a press release. Please find something better to do than repeat Kobach's asinine rhetoric verbatim, 'kay?
srj (anonymous) says…
Terriorist have proven to come though Canada, so let's not pretend this has anything to do with that.
And bartstop is right, you arrest business owners for hiring illegals, it's the PC way to do it.
introversion (anonymous) says…
It doesn't matter what you think, so long as you're very afraid, because all the bad guys are coming and sooner or later they're gonna get us, unless we are very afraid and elect to act aggressively!
Don't forget to be scared of something!
introversion (anonymous) says…
If we stop the flow of illegal immigrants, who's gonna work in the industrial cattle yards and packing plants in south-western Kansas? Who's gonna process all our corn-fed industrial beef?
Someone better let the cattlemen know what this Kobach is up to!
bd (anonymous) says…
Tea anyone??
PhilPell (anonymous) says…
This law is proof that Kobach does not understand security, counter-terrorism or human nature and is therefore unfit for the job of AG. If you want to combat a segment of the undocumented population such as the Sinaloa cartel, you don't do it by making the entire undocumented population afraid to go anywhere near law enforcement. You do it by passing a law indicating that if an undocumented person provides information to law enforcement about the criminal element within the undocumented population that they won't ask about the person's immigration status. In other words, you pass the opposite of SB-1070 if you want to stop criminal infiltration. This law practically promotes it.
Fatty_McButterpants (anonymous) replies…
Good thing he's running for Secretary of State...
merrill (anonymous) says…
"Kris Kobach, who helped write the controversial immigration law in Arizona, says terrorists are streaming over the United States-Mexico border, armed Mexican cartels have taken over some territory on the U.S. side, and that some Democrats support illegal immigration because they see potential voters."
Kobach can prove none of this. He is all talk and no substance.
Typical repub platform that surfaced about 1980 which all about fear fear fear and that all other people in the world not good for america.
Remember repubs!
Think about it. In the past 30 years the repub tea party has been in involved two major home loan scandals that effectively took the USA economy down the tubes. One is too damn many but twice represents repub economic policy. Wreckanomics is a failed economic policy. In fact wreckanomics is beginning to smell like well planned crimes.
The republican tea party have become masters at putting millions upon millions upon millions of people out of work. AND stealing taxpayers retirement plans along the way.
What Tea Party Repubs do with a remarkable degree of consistency is wreck the economy,initiate huge movements of shipping jobs abroad aka the Reagan-Bush Global Economy and try to wreck social security and medicare.
Is there a definite pattern? Absolutely!
1. The Reagan/ Bush Savings and Loan Heist
http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com...
2. The Bush/Cheney Wall Street Bank Fraud on Consumers
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
3. What did Bush and Henry Paulson do with the $700 billion of bail out money?
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10...
4. Why did GW Bush Lie About Social Security?( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion,place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy)
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
5. Still A Bad Idea – Bush Tax Cuts - The entitlement program for the wealthy at the expense of the middle class
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
6. The "tea parties" BTW are part of the wreckanomics program funded by the Koch Brothers... well known oil billionaires. These thinkers back a tax payers bill of rights which is another scheme to reward the upper 1% which is designed to wreck local and state governments. Which brings us to the Other entitlement Program for the Wealthy
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
All of the above displays reckless economic behavior that which drains the cookie jars.
What do the Bush tea party republicans plan for 2010?
Start the typical repub character assassination campaign which in essence is a massive cover-up scheme for the financial disasters that illustrate how the repubs are NOT the financial giants of our time.
Remember the Bush/Cheney repubs put 11 million people out of work and many of those jobs went abroad quietly and will NOT return.
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) replies…
Woo hoo! Haven't seen that set of links in at least two days! Way to go, merrill. Everybody will surely read them this time!
merrill (anonymous) says…
"Kris Kobach, who helped write the controversial immigration law in Arizona, says terrorists are streaming over the United States-Mexico border, armed Mexican cartels have taken over some territory on the U.S. side, and that some Democrats support illegal immigration because they see potential voters."
Kobach can prove none of this. He is all talk and no substance.
Typical repub platform that surfaced about 1980 which all about fear fear fear and that all other people in the world not good for america.
Remember repubs!
Think about it. In the past 30 years the repub tea party has been in involved two major home loan scandals that effectively took the USA economy down the tubes. One is too damn many but twice represents repub economic policy. Wreckanomics is a failed economic policy. In fact wreckanomics is beginning to smell like well planned crimes.
The republican tea party have become masters at putting millions upon millions upon millions of people out of work. AND stealing taxpayers retirement plans along the way.
What Tea Party Repubs do with a remarkable degree of consistency is wreck the economy,initiate huge movements of shipping jobs abroad aka the Reagan-Bush Global Economy and try to wreck social security and medicare.
Is there a definite pattern? Absolutely!
1. The Reagan/ Bush Savings and Loan Heist
http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com...
2. The Bush/Cheney Wall Street Bank Fraud on Consumers
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
3. What did Bush and Henry Paulson do with the $700 billion of bail out money?
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10...
4. Why did GW Bush Lie About Social Security?( This would cost taxpayers $4 trillion,place taxpayers insurance money at risk and wreck the economy)
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
5. Still A Bad Idea – Bush Tax Cuts - The entitlement program for the wealthy at the expense of the middle class
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
6. The "tea parties" BTW are part of the wreckanomics program funded by the Koch Brothers... well known oil billionaires. These thinkers back a tax payers bill of rights which is another scheme to reward the upper 1% which is designed to wreck local and state governments. Which brings us to the Other entitlement Program for the Wealthy
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archiv...
All of the above displays reckless economic behavior that which drains the cookie jars.
What do the Bush tea party republicans plan for 2010?
Start the typical repub character assassination campaign which in essence is a massive cover-up scheme for the financial disasters that illustrate how the repubs are NOT the financial giants of our time.
Remember the Bush/Cheney repubs put 11 million people out of work and many of those jobs went abroad quietly and will NOT return.
beatrice (anonymous) says…
Drug cartels that are making many millions of dollars and are killing people in large numbers with an arsenal that far surpass the power of most police units -- will be stopped by a fence.
Got it. Drug cartels will be stopped by a fence.
And if you put a tooth under the pillow, the tooth fairy will leave you money.
Brilliant
merrill (anonymous) says…
The gun supply for the drug cartels seems to the USA. These guns are delivered by the truck loads for big bucks.
Instead of building a useless fence why not stop the USA gun runners.
The fence = pork barrel spending. Not everyone along the border wants that fence anywhere near their property. According to news sources. Some of those people are big time republican supporters. Such as the Bass family..... aka Bass brothers who are friends with the Bush family. Apparently the immigrants are not a problem everywhere.
AlfVenison (Alf Venison) says…
And yet no one seems concerned about the illegal Canadians. At least Mexicans give us great cuisine. What do the Canadians give us? Canadian bacon.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
They gave us Steve Nash ... and Curling!
estespark (anonymous) says…
He has a CRT monitor. What a joker.
BigAl (anonymous) says…
This partisan political hack fails to mention that the huge beef plants in Western Kansas continue to hire these illegals. These beef plants are owned and operated by his Republican pals. Instead of taking cheap shots at Democrats over something that hasn't happened, and may never happen, why doesn't he approach the people that are hiring these illegals? Let's go to the source of what is bringing them here.
bluedawg79 (anonymous) says…
Weren't our ancestors potentially "terrorists" when they forcibly took land and resources away from the Native Americans? Apparently it was 'ok' then for them to do so then, but now that the tables are turned and someone is trying to do that to us, nuh uh... I smell hypocrisy. I'm not excited for cartels controlling US soil, but call it for what it really is.
The_Big_B (anonymous) says…
Democrats see potential voters.
Republicans see cheap labor.
I see political prostitutes on both sides of the aisle.
This isn't about Dems vs GOP, and it isn't about race; it's about soulless corruption.
If we are to be a Nation of Laws, then we cannot have a subclass of people who live in the shadows of economic slavery and who are neither expected to obey the law nor to benefit from its equal protection.
We have to set a reasonable rule and we have to live by those rules.
Made_in_China (Paul R. Getto) says…
"How many cases of voting fraud in Kansas over the past ten years?" === Good point. As I recall, the answer for how many illegal immigrants voted in the past few years is zero. The border is a problem, but what Kobach worries about here in Kansas is pretty far-fetched, at least as far as elections are concerned.
kylechandler (anonymous) says…
Why would any of these lazy tea bags want to check out the Big Beef Industry? They might learn something and we cant have that now can we.
They dont want to know who makes or processes their food. Out of sight out of mind right.????
Tonight, while all you sore losing republicant tea-nutters are eating yr steak and taters.....think about all the thousands of dirty illegal immigrant workers hands that touched and processed your dinner...right down to the butter. and you supported it!! So hurry back to the Dillons Hun... while theres still a sale on that immigrant made meat!
At least for now. Then when we put them all in prison or deport them...food prices will most certainly stabilize or go down right? Because all you ultra Proud TB Patriots dont mind working for what them illegals were getting paid right? Meanwhile more prisons..OOPS i meant Private Corporately Owned republican Prisons will need to be built to store all them damn nasty Mexican illegals. So we might need to give their corporation a tax break to get the job done right just like good ol GW would do. Then when food prices soar you can all blame 'bama' and 'socialism' while you drive happily down yr 'socialist' funded highway system, that members of your once immigrant family helped build, to cash your 'Social' Security check.....
Apparently the new Tea Party Patriot (its so hard to type without laughing) Motto should be 'Stay Home and Stay Ignorant' ....cuz they like you that way
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
Be legal or be gone. Doesn't matter if you came from Norway or Peru.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
Be brown and be suspect. Doesn't matter if you came from Newark or Pittsburgh.
RiverCityConservative (anonymous) says…
Here's how I knew there must have been voter intimidation against Hispanic voters in Seward County in 2002. Zero votes recorded against Connie Morris, who wanted public schools to refuse to educate undocumented immigrant children. Kobach is the flaming anti-immigrant zealot who tried to overturn the will of the Kansas people by taking the state to court over the successful Kansas Dream Act in 2004. I was happy to be a leader in the Kansas Association of Teachers of English as a Second Language (Kansas TESOL) at that time and we successfully advocated for the Dream Act and against several efforts the next several years when Kansas lawmakers considered repealing the law. Want to see an anti-immigrant get all tongue-tied and unable to utter a thought? Ask them what they are FOR. What are they in favor of. That's the danger in building a career or a movement or a reputation that is only defined by what it is against. Kobach and that church in Topeka that is always protesting funerals. More of the colorful figures that our Great State's history is littered with. We're willing to listen to them all. Free speech. Have at it. Give it your best shot dudes. Kansans are a patient, tolerant people. You'll wear out before you wear out your welcome here. :)
Brittanicus (anonymous) says…
Its time for all the anti-American, Anti-Sovereignty and pro-illegal alien politicians to depart. They have proven their unwillingness, to stand up for American workers and are still taking stipends from the open-border demented organizations and their lobbyists. Our country is crippled by financial welfare, by anybody who can slip the loose gauntlet around our borders. Ominous Amnesty clouds are growing everyday, so Tea Partiers are joining the ever increasing volumes of regular hard working people to commit themselves for the fight to come? Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) will soon be joining the jobless, as well as his cohorts in June, but certainly in November. We have been ripped off long enough by the IRS, to pay for government entitlement programs. Its time we looked-out for our own stranded souls, the homeless, the sick and those on disability. Countries of national origin of those who have illegally settled here, must be forced to pay for the health care, education and all silently hidden programs of their people.
Those Americans and legal residents who believe in the "Rule of Law" must remove career lawmakers in the federal and state Capitols, who have allowed this foreign occupation to happen. Lets send a resonating message to Congress, that if you tread on the people's faces you must suffer the consequences and be dismissed of the power of our--VOTE. Today--more and more people are not cringing anymore by being branded racists or bigot. We are finally repudiating the sordid smears passed onto us. we are ready to fight back. Just as the residents of Arizona have done against the radical insinuations of the Liberals hiding in the shadows of Democrats. when the government refuses to build the two fences, enforce any or all laws. then states have no choice< but to enact its own policing laws? There will be no--amnesty--comprehensive immigration reform. Just an updated version of the late Sen.Ted Kennedy 1986 law. Be aware of --ALL--Amnesty proposals at NumbersUSA, ahead of time.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
The entitlement programs you mention are minor in comparison to corporate welfare handed out by our government. Does that bother you at all? Of course it doesn't.
Now, shut up and show me your papers! I want you to prove to me that you are a citizen! Now! This is a police state we live in, buddy, and you better get used to it!
Oh, wait, I'm sorry, I thought you were brown. Guess you were just standing in a shadow. Nevermind. Go about your business.
RiverCityConservative (anonymous) says…
I hope my comment did not prompt that outburst, but if so, go for it dude. Let it all hang out. Let go of that stress. You'll make it. Just don't expect to see a bunch of people marching in line behind you when you get to the top of the hill. But keep going. Whatever you believe in man. If you think you're more American than me, if that makes you feel better, great! Freedom, that's America. Dream, that's America. Nobody owns it. Land of the free, home of the brave. I salute the spirit down there deep inside behind all that other stuff. You'll get it. Keep trying. You'll get it.
beatrice (anonymous) says…
The New Colossus, by Emma Lazarus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
redneck (anonymous) replies…
I cannot argue with that , but where does it say to just sneak in the back door? How would you like people just sneaking in you're back door? I doubt that you would tolerate it for even a second.
kernal (anonymous) says…
I think what we need here is a national contest for "Name That Wall". The grand prize is an all expenses weekend in Nueva Laredo (ammunition complementary), second prize the chance to work a booth at the border and third prize, a buy one, get one free coupon to El Mezcal.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
Okay. Here are my first choices. (this is actually a great idea and should be made into a blog, kernal)
The Wall to Nowhere.
The Wall of our Discontent.
White Picket De-fences.
Don't Tread Over Me.
staff04 (anonymous) says…
He's right: It does affect people in all states. It forces them to admit that large chunks of this country are still run by unreconstructed racists.
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
How is rewarding millions of illegal aliens for evading deportation supposed to help America?
Agnostick (anonymous) replies…
Why don't you dig up Ronnie and ask him?
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
Several quick comments...
First of all, if we're going to build a fence, then let's build a fence... a real one that criminals just can't hop over: http://www.herculesfencenc.com/produc...
beatrice, the whole "brown" shtick is getting old. You like to toss around "brown" people 'cause you think it makes your cause look kewl? I can play that game, too. Tell me what you think about this "brown" person:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/sep...
(follow the links... if you dare ;) )
ivalueamerica nailed it first. All the self-righteous partisan hacks that want to blame Democrats, Liberals etc. better take a good, long look at Ronnie Raygun, first.
The_Big_B : Nicely said @ 2:35pm! I think you'd appreciate Barbara Jordan's testimony.
Brittanicus, Lucius Vorenus (The Retread), et al ... How about it, hombres? You sit around and whine about "bad illegals," but you have nothing to say about the businesses and corporations that hire them? Maybe it would affect your stock portfolio too much? Hypocrites!!!
I've said it many times before, and I stand by my words today, just as I have in the past:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr...
So howzabout it, Brittanicus? LuciusRetreadus? How about we use RICO to crack down on businesses that knowingly, repeatedly hire illegal immigrants? How about we seize all assets and holdings of those businesses... permanently reject the business licenses of the owners... and auction off the businesses to law-abiding citizens, proceeds of the auction going to pay back taxes?
Care to comment on this?
Agnostick
agnostick@excite.com
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
Agno, if you think the whole "brown people" schtick is getting old, oh well. I find the racism behind the new law even more tiresome. Just so you know, I don't give a rat's butt about being kewl around here. I don't actually know any of you and I'm far too old for such nonsense.
It is very easy for white folks to support a law that will not effect them at all. The new AZ law will have police (and others) looking at people who appear to be of Latin American heritage as potentially being non-citizens because of the color of their skin. So, we can say it won't be about racial profiling, but we all know it will be. It will be about treating brown people as second-class citizens.
I was going to direct you to a comment I responded to earlier that illustrates how some are very comfortable with racially profiling people who look like they are from Mexico (i.e. brown people), but alas it has been removed. The sentiment remains, however, even if the comment is now lost. Some people are just fine with laws that don't effect them.
redneck (anonymous) replies…
I have to correct you here. This law WILL affect me. It will send people who are here illegally, and who may not be paying ALL their taxes, back to where they came from. All I'm asking here, is that they come here legally, and leave when their visa has expired, or renew their visa. You are making this way too complicated man. It's simply about people obeying the laws of this great country, and paying ALL the taxes the rest of us have to pay. They are not the cause of ALL of our problems, but we should not just sweep this problem under the rug, just because somebody's feelings may be hurt in the process. The Arizona law prohibits law enforcement from using racial profiling. How many different ways can we say racail profiling is prohibited? Play the "race" card all you want, it doesn't change that they are breaking the law.
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
"First, we set forth principles. We are a nation of immigrants committed to the rule of law. The Commission believes that legal immigration has strengthened the country and that it continues to do so. We as a Commission denounce the hostility that seems to be developing toward all immigrants.
"To make sense about the national interest in immigration, it is necessary to make distinctions between those who obey the law, and those who violate it. Therefore, we disagree, also, with those who label our efforts to control illegal immigration as somehow inherently anti-immigrant. Unlawful immigration is unacceptable.
"The second part of our strategy is worksite enforcement. You will hear testimony today about visa overstayers. You will hear that roughly one-half of the nation's illegal alien problem results from visitors who entered legally but who do not leave when their time is up. Let me tell you in three simple words why that is: they get jobs."
________________________________________________________________________
Testimony of Barbara Jordan,
Chair, U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform
Before the U.S. House of Representatives
Committee on the Judiciary
Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims
February 24, 1995
http://www.utexas.edu/lbj/uscir/02249...
Agnostick (anonymous) says…
In case any crackpots give a rat's rump... this is via email...
6/7/2010
attention:
On Tuesday, June 8, at 12:00pm, Kris Kobach will officially file to be a candidate for Kansas Secretary of State. He will hold a press conference soon after on the front steps of the Secretary of States office to take questions regarding his candidacy.
If you have any questions or would like to set up an interview with the candidate, you may contact Ben T. Davis directly at: blah blah blah blah blah blah...