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Obama: ‘Time to get serious’

President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address Wednesday on Capitol Hill in Washington. Obama emphasized his ideas, some new but mostly old and explained anew, for restoring job growth, taming budget deficits and changing a Washington so polarized that “every day is Election Day.”

President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address Wednesday on Capitol Hill in Washington. Obama emphasized his ideas, some new but mostly old and explained anew, for restoring job growth, taming budget deficits and changing a Washington so polarized that “every day is Election Day.”

January 28, 2010

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— Declaring “I don’t quit,” President Barack Obama fought to recharge his embattled presidency with a State of the Union vow to get jobless millions back to work and stand with Americans angry at Wall Street greed and Washington bickering. He said he would fight on for overhauls of health care, energy and education.

“Change has not come fast enough,” Obama said Wednesday night before a politician-packed House chamber and a TV audience of millions. “As hard as it may be, as uncomfortable and contentious as the debates may be, it’s time to get serious about fixing the problems that are hampering our growth.”

He looked to change the conversation from how his presidency is stalling to how he is seizing the reins. With State of the Union messages traditionally delivered at the end of January, Obama had one of the presidency’s biggest platforms a week after Republicans scored an upset takeover of a Senate seat in Massachusetts.

The address at a glance:

ECONOMY

• Urged the Senate to follow the House and pass a second jobs bill this year.

• Proposed using $30 billion repaid by Wall Street banks to help community banks lend to small businesses.

• Proposed new tax credit for small businesses that hire workers or raise the wages of current employees.

• Proposed eliminating all capital gains taxes on small-business investment and providing tax incentives for all businesses to invest in new plants and equipment.

• Suggested slashing tax breaks for companies that move jobs overseas and extending them to companies that create U.S. jobs.

• Set a goal of doubling exports over the next five years, contending it will support 2 million jobs at home. Announced an initiative to help farmers and small businesses increase exports.

HEALTH CARE

• Urged Democrats dispirited by the loss of their 60-vote Senate majority not to abandon the effort to overhaul the health care system.

EDUCATION

• Urged elimination of taxpayer subsidies for banks providing student loans.

• Proposed $10,000 tax credit for four years of college, along with higher Pell Grants.

• Proposed capping student loan repayments at 10 percent of income and forgiving all student loan debt after 20 years, or after 10 years if the student enters public service.

ENERGY

• Urged Senate passage of comprehensive energy and climate legislation to help the country shift toward cleaner energy sources and help create jobs.

SPENDING

• Proposed three-year freeze on most domestic spending, beginning in 2011. Spending on national security, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security would be exempt.

• Announced he will issue an executive order creating a bipartisan task force to recommend ways to reduce the deficit.

OVERHAUL

• Urged Senate to follow the House and pass a financial overhaul bill to protect consumers from industry abuses and make sure they have the information they need to make decisions about what to do with their money.

IRAQ

• Reiterated pledge to remove all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of August.

Comments

grammaddy 4 years, 11 months ago

So what would be your solutions Mr. Party of "NO", barrypenders. From now on no body gets to say "NO" unless they have a better alternative!

commuter 4 years, 11 months ago

Where do you want to start??

It is more costly to have produce something here, than in China.

Less government regulation

Less taxes

More availiability of workers who will work

Closer to my my end consumers

Mnay other reasons

monkeyhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

"Mr. Party of “NO” - looks like that is a winning strategy. Guess he'll have to go back to Bush bashing.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

"...get serious..."? Like he got serious with the voters in MA, or serious like he got with the IOC? Epic fail either way. We have Carter Lite living in the White House.

M. Lindeman 4 years, 11 months ago

monkeyhawk (Anonymous) says…

“Mr. Party of “NO” - looks like that is a winning strategy. Guess he'll have to go back to Bush bashing.

rdragon writes:

monkeyhawk, they never stopped.

commuter 4 years, 11 months ago

Even though I do not have a law degree from Harvard, the economy should have been his primary focus. Let's think about it when the economy is good, it is easier to raise taxes and do "health insurance reform."

Stuart Evans 4 years, 11 months ago

"From now on no body gets to say “NO” unless they have a better alternative!"


NO. would ya look at that. I said NO, and there isn't a thing you can do about it. I've never been one to follow rules made up by unsupported logic.

Did you not watch the Republican rebuttal? I believe the Governor explained that there was in fact an entire website dedicated to alternative, smaller, more realistic ideas. Just because the ideas come from Republicans and you turn your nose up at them, does not make them any less alternative. So it's not as if 41 guys in the Senate are just saying NO, without bringing anything to the table. It's just all been flat out rejected by Obama and therefor Reid.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 11 months ago

commuter, you really should get a Harvard law degree. It makes all of this BS so much easier to digest.

bd 4 years, 11 months ago

Time for a good old fashion Tea Party!

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Woulda' sworn Obama said spending freezes were baaaaaaaad during the campaign.


grammaddy (Anonymous) says…

"So what would be your solutions Mr. Party of “NO”, barrypenders. From now on no body gets to say “NO” unless they have a better alternative!"

I propose the unemployed be given guns so they can more easily rob gas stations and liquor stores.

There - how's that?

Oops - almost forgot - 'NO'.

Mixolydian 4 years, 11 months ago

Anyone else play the "Me, Myself, I" Obama speech drinking game last night.

OMG...permanent liver damage.

grammaddy 4 years, 11 months ago

notajayhawk-I said a better alternative with the emphasis on BETTER.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

grammaddy - Yeah, got that part. What was your point?

BrianR 4 years, 11 months ago

ibroke (Anonymous) says… "Suggested slashing tax breaks for companies that move jobs overseas and extending them to companies that create U.S. jobs.–— any idea why companies would leave this country in the first place??"

That reminds me, with the new freedoms that corporations have to spend their stockholder's money to influence political campaigns, it won't be long before all political decisions are made offshore.

Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

Who wrote this article?

"SPENDING

• Proposed three-year freeze on most domestic spending, beginning in 2011. Spending on national security, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security would be exempt."

That is absurd. You can't have a freeze on "most domestic spending," and not include Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, because those programs constitute "msot domestic spending."

The truthful statement would have been that the president proposed a freeze on some discretionary domestic spending, which will result in only $15 billion in dollars not spent (calling it savings is also absurd) over 3 years. Pocket change. Spitting in the wind.

monkeyhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

""...it won't be long before all political decisions are made offshore."

Like this?

"Despite dropping the groundbreaking bombshell story of "Palestinian" brothers from the Rafah refugee camp in Gaza who donated $33,000 to Obama's campaign, no big media picked up the story. Jihadis donating to Obama from Gaza? Could there be a bigger story? Foreign donations are illegal, but this story was all that and so much more. The "Palestinian" brothers were proud and vocal of their "love" for Obama. Their vocal support on behalf of "Palestinians" spoke volumes to Obama's campaign." http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

Or this:

"In his June endorsement of Senator Obama on Al Jazeera, Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi said that Obama's campaign has been receiving foreign contributions." http://jmw.typepad.com/political_warfare/2008/10/qaddafi-said-obama-got-foreign-campaign-contributions.html

FreshAirFanatic 4 years, 11 months ago

Did anyone else feel like he was talking down to the people he's supposed to be serving? I've seen "spin" and making the numbers say what they want, but my goodness. He flat out lied to our face. Over and over.

georgiahawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Godot, so if we can't do it all at once we shouldn't do anything? That is a brilliant strategy. One that is certainly going to stop any reform in any area. Conservatism at its best! Barry, when I do understand what you are trying to say, I wish that I hadn't taken the time!

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

I like his ideas...if we can just get the elephants to quit dragging their feet on everything...

monkeyhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

"if we can just get the elephants to quit dragging their feet on everything…"

Please tell me why in the world would anyone want to go along with something that they vehemently disagree with? What would be the profit for any Rep. to go against their constituency when it is very clear that the makeup of congress will be drastically altered by the end of the year?

As I said before - NO is a winning strategy.

Godot 4 years, 11 months ago

Putting that mammoth $15 billion in "savings" in perspective, the interest on the national debt is $1.2 billion each and every day, and it will increase as the budget shortfall, which is projected to be $13,000 billion every year for the next 10 years, serves to double the national debt by 2020.

Obama proposes to "save" enough money to pay the interest on the national debt for less than two weeks!

cowboy 4 years, 11 months ago

I think a the most positive thing that could happen would be a large bulldozer caravan to just push the congress into the nearby ocean. Watching this bunch of pompous , self important fatcats roll their eyes , mumble under their breath , stand up , not stand up , displays how childish the congress truly has become. This goes for both parties. We'd be better off to let the victors set the agenda and bring these "scalawags" to town about one day a month to vote up or down and keep them in their districts. The rancor , dishonesty , and complete lack of understanding who they represent is disheartening. They do little , other than spew puppet lines like most of the posts above and accomplish even less. Pretty pathetic.

oldvet 4 years, 11 months ago

"...it’s time to get serious about fixing the problems that are hampering our growth."

So he admits that he has not been serious about fixing these problems up to this point.... Did Biden write this speech for him?

Shardwurm 4 years, 11 months ago

I saw this guy on TV last night. It's a new show entitled 'State of the Union' or something like that.

Absolutely hilarious. Best new comedy of the season in my opinion. A++++ - you guys really need to watch it!

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

When you have kids in the house gets infected by the television they watch - most of you with young children should be familiar with this infamous line from Nik Jr -

This

is

sewious!

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

@ monkeyhawk

Because the policies you agree with got us in this mess.

diplomacy205 4 years, 11 months ago

Better proposals than BHO. Guess which Democrat President proposed almost all of these.

1). Cut Capital Gains tax in half. 2). One or two year suspension of employer share of employment taxes. 3). Veto Cap and Trade if it makes it through Congress. 4). Cut income tax rates for people who actually pay income taxes. 5). Propose a 2% cut in descretionary spending every year and refuse to sign any spending bill until this passes.

6). Eliminate the banking regulations that require them to lend to and spend money for people who don't qualify for traditional loans. Basically repeal the Barney Frank banking legislation.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

whatthehell (Anonymous) says…

"Do you “haters” REALLY think it is a good idea to let the largest, richest companies in the country determine what is good for ALL Americans. ... Banking, healthcare, mortgage Industry, Wall Street…you name it, if they are not prohibited from buying off and bribing government officials then we are DONE within a generation. Period."

As was pointed out on the thread on the Supreme Court's ruling, the law they struck down was only 8 years old. Yet somehow our country managed to survive for centuries before it existed.

There are already laws against "buying off and bribing government officials," whatthehell. They were there before McCain-Feingold and they're still there.

If you think that corporations being allowed to promote political candidates will lead to corporations 'determining what is good for all Americans', it doesn't say very much about your faith in your fellow citizens to think for themselves. Which, in reflection, doesn't say much about your own ability to think for yourself.

Then again, the party that says 'We only voted for the Iraq invasion because we were lied to' (and apparently fell for it - repeatedly); 'We don't need to read proposed legislation that will spend trillions of dollars of our constituents money before we vote on it' (because our party leadership tells us it's the right thing to do); even things like 'We need the best and brightest to lead us' (i.e., we need someone 'smart' to tell us what to think); the party that says things like that probably IS vulnerable to political advertising.

Shardwurm 4 years, 11 months ago

On a more serious note I heard him say this as well:

"Reiterated pledge to remove all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of August."

Um...he'd better let someone know about that since we're still deploying troops over there with plans to continue to do so into next year.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

The AP ran a fact checking story & pointed out a number of whoppers from last night. If Dear Leader has lost the AP, then the curtain is starting to fall.

tbaker 4 years, 11 months ago

The President's first year has angered and mobilized a large and growing portion of the electorate that cannot be placated with more empty rhetoric. Besides losing their filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, a great number of democrats are now facing serious challenges in the approaching mid-term elections. If you can count on congress to do one thing it is to take care of themselves, especially in years when they face tough re-election contests. Consequently, nothing of substance will happen in 2010 for fear of further angering the voters who grow ever-more disgusted with them by the day. The President is no longer in control of the agenda. He is merely along for the ride.

If he wants to bring jobs to the US, he should champion the FairTax. Theres presently $13-15 billion in US-held assets presently off-shore and out of our economy because the US is tied with Japan for the highest level of taxation on Earth. If he wants to put money in people’s / business pockets, he should declare a income tax holiday for a period of months. Instead of “Washington knows best” how to spend the money we earn, with more “stimulus” nonsense, they should let us that get up and go to work every day make that decision. Short of such bold populist moves, his wish to be a one-term President will soon be granted.

smarty_pants 4 years, 11 months ago

@barrypenders: as someone who has taught and studied evolution for years, your "darwin bless" is annoying. most of your comments have nothing whatsoever to do with darwin, natural selection or anything of the sort. maybe you should come up with a new saying.

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

I don't have anything against those things, barry. But that mentality has led us to this point. BHO said it best...it's time for a change. Is he going to bring that change? I doubt it, but he can't change everything by himself either...some of the Republicans need to past that whole "my dad can beat up your dad" mentality and at least try to work with him.

What I have a problem with is all the people a "free market" leaves behind. They're not all lazy and looking for handouts, contrary to Republican belief.

You seem to romanticize the "free market", barry. Should we let Bell have it's monopoly back? Should we let Standard Oil put us all over the proverbial barrel again?

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

Stonewalling the other side isn't going to accomplish anything.

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

barry reminds me of Grandpa Simpson...he keeps talking, but everyone ignores him because he's senile.

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

Yes, but the past has shown us, barry. A true "free market" will end in monopolies without gov't interference.

jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

Don't think anyone's brought it up, but I could go for a moratorium on applause and ovatons after every other sentence. Let's hear the State of the Union and get it over with; all the applause and/or grumbling is just plain annoying. And while we're at it, how 'bout just the Prez addressing the company with the flag as the backdrop. I could do without having to watch Bobblehead Joe nodding at everything or Pelosi's frozen smirk. This is not party specific, have hated these things no matter who's been up there.

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

What are they saying in Dear Leader's home town?

“…So Obama has planted his flag atop the local landfill and told everyone he has scaled Mount Everest…”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/ct-edit-obama0128-20100127,0,7154811.story

Stuart Evans 4 years, 11 months ago

Ricky, stonewalling is absolutely necessary when the majority refuses to allow any ideas from across the isle. If Democrats would just listen to what the opposition is trying to say, then there might be some common ground that everyone can come to. But so far it's just been "our way or the highway". Just because every agenda sounds top notch to Dems does not mean that it's a perfect fit for Republicans or Independents. I think this is something that the narcissist president and congressional leaders need to understand.

Polly_Gomer 4 years, 11 months ago

smarty_pants, barrypenders is nothing but a troll and it's amazing that he still exists here.

smarty_pants 4 years, 11 months ago

@Polly: not only does he not understand what "survival of the fittest" means, he doesn't know what a metaphor means either! Sheesh!

@bp--maybe you should get educated instead of acting like you are! You are the "poser" sir!

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Ricky_Vaughn (Anonymous) says…

"Stonewalling the other side isn't going to accomplish anything."

Au contraire.

It will keep the Dems from making things worse.


whatthehell (Anonymous) says…

"What caused every major downturn in the last 100 years?"

Well, as for the current one, how about people buying houses they couldn't afford and then couldn't sell?

A stock market whose value was ridiculously inflated and people who didn't know what they were doing sinking everything they had into it before the inevitable bubble burst?

Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 11 months ago

@ AreUNorml

I think both parties are guilty of not listening to the other side. Plus, as you can see from this thread, Repubs aren't exactly open minded. Change tends to scare them. They'd rather wallow around in the pile of poo we're in now.

@ notajayhawk

The Repubs made it this bad in the first place! The best outcome from a Republican administration is maintain the status quo and keep everything the way it is...and the way things are happens to suck currently.

MyName 4 years, 11 months ago

Please tell me why in the world would anyone want to go along with something that they vehemently disagree with?

He's not asking them to "go along" with it. He's asking them to let there be an up or down vote on it in the Senate, just like the Republicans claimed to want when they were trying to do business in the Senate.

lindseydoyle 4 years, 11 months ago

"Time to get serious" I guess he's just been joking up until now like the Beer Summit. I wonder if the Nobel Committee was joking when they gave him the peace prize.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Ricky_Vaughn (Anonymous) says…

"The Repubs made it this bad in the first place! The best outcome from a Republican administration is maintain the status quo and keep everything the way it is…and the way things are happens to suck currently."

Regardless of whether any of that is true, you think the solution is to make it worse?

I never said doing nothing was the solution. I said it was better than making it worse. When you're driving towards a cliff, doing nothing might not save you, but it's a better option than stepping on the gas.


whatthehell (Anonymous) says…

"Massive stock brokerage houses pushed their salespeople to sell the American people empty bills of goods in the 20's and Massive Mortgage companies pushed their salespeople to sell the American people empty bills of goods in the late 2000's because there was such a lack or regulation they were allowed to do so."

And thank you for making MY point. Once again your answer is that all our problems stem from the fact that people are basically gullible.

Yep, I remember when those corporate raiders came terrorizing our neighborhood, guns blazing, forcing everyone to take out mortgages. It was just awful.

Tell me something, whatthehell - do you believe in personal responsibility for anything?

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

whatthehell (Anonymous) says…

"….to be left alone to rape and pillage the average American right out of the middle classes and into the lowest classes because they are only concerned with the current balance sheets."

The middle class has indeed shrunk.

They got rich.

Apparently you were telling the truth when you said you weren't a fiscal historian. As to the rest, well ...

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

President Hillary would have given a better speech.

bad_dog 4 years, 11 months ago

jaywalker, I don't often see things "eye-to-eye" with you, however, I couldn't disagree with your 11:51 post in the slightest. I wish they would just get up and say their peace and then get to work doing something productive. I don't care who in the audience agrees/disagrees/roll eyes/mouths comments, etc. I blame the 24 hour news cycle for much of this.

Ditto for Cowboy's 9:17 post. I'm really getting sick of the entire Congress and Washington.

The "truth" often lies somewhere in the middle. We really need to strive to find that middle ground or the current polarization will either cripple or kill us. We all need to open our minds a bit and be willing to compromise. We also need to accept that our party doesn't have exclusive dominion over the correct answers and to understand there is valuable insight, input and perspective to be gained by listening to others rather than rejecting them offhand or considering them stupid merely because they're an "R" or a "D".

It's interesting, I work with a lot of "Rs" and we frequently discuss politics during lunch. We have cordial discussions about policy because each of us respects the other on an intellectual basis. We seldom agree en toto, but we all walk away from the discussions believing we gained something from the experience. Sometimes opinions are changed ever so slightly, other times not so much. We still maintain mutual respect and the overriding sense of pride as Americans as well as the belief that working together for the common good is not only the right thing to do, but essential for mutual survival and maintenance of the "American Way". The people of this country have the ability to do anything and overcome any adversity-or at least we used to. Now is the time to again seek greatness-we need it and we owe it to our children.

My apologies for the rant.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

whatthehell (Anonymous) says…

"nota. quote me hard facts and figures. % of population in each of the classes"

Of course, this isn't an exact way of figuring it, but according to the Census Bureau, from 1988 until 2008 (you didn't specify a time period) the percent of households making between $25K and $100K (you didn't specify the definition of 'middle class' either) dropped from 58.8% to 54.7%, while the percentage making above $100K went from 15.2% to 20.5% (all adjusted to 2008 dollars). In other words, the segment above $100K actually grew more than the percentage between $25-100K shrunk.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/h17.xls

(You need Excel to view the spreadsheet.)

Flap Doodle 4 years, 11 months ago

In other news: "But Obama has a bigger problem: Aside from a few throwaway lines of self-deprecation, whenever he grew passionate, it was to blame others. His predecessor topped his list, of course. But also everyone else who disagrees with him. Obama insists that Americans need to muster the courage to agree with him, to sign on to his agenda. Just as at Omaha Beach and Bull Run, Americans need to show their mettle. "Again, we are tested. And again, we must answer history's call." That "call" is the call of Obama. "I never suggested that change would be easy, or that I can do it alone." So come on, you slackers, fall into line. He decried the politicians who are in "permanent campaign" mode -- the same week he brought into the White House his campaign manager. Other politicians are vain, cowardly and insubstantial. They need the courage to change. Meanwhile, Obama is great the way he is. That is the attitude that has gotten the president in so much trouble. And last night's State of the Union speech showed us that change really isn't easy, particularly for the president." Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/obama_answer_for_america_more_of_1IboSZ3t6WFW12qZnpv10J#ixzz0dwregkeE

diplomacy205 4 years, 11 months ago

"MyName (Anonymous) says…

Please tell me why in the world would anyone want to go along with something that they vehemently disagree with?

He's not asking them to “go along” with it. He's asking them to let there be an up or down vote on it in the Senate, just like the Republicans claimed to want when they were trying to do business in the Senate. "

Just like Joe Biden and Barrack Obama allowed up and down votes on Bush's judicial appointments? Before the election Joe Biden was a big fan of the filibuster. Of course Barrack Obama was still a community organizer.

jaywalker 4 years, 11 months ago

Liberty,

Now that you mention it, I did see that skit. Hilarious!

bad dog,

Couldn't disagree as far as the news teams, though I suspect it's all of Congress knowing they 'ain't on CSPAN anymore' so things start to take a parliamentary air, if you know what I mean. I liked a lot of what the President had to say last night, but the perpetual 'applause' was gratuitous at best after a while.

On a separate note, I believe the President's message to Republicans in general would have carried a lot more weight and significance if he'd instructed the Dems to hold their applause when he chastised them. His words were going to be heavy enough; raucous applause and cheers afterward only serves to embarass further and probably cause some resentment. I know this comes right out of some child psych class, nevertheless.......

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

whatthehell (Anonymous) says…

"I will just start trusting them more to hold down my insurance costs, fuel costs, grocery costs etc because surely I won't get busted into poverty. Let the free market be freeeeeeeee. Talk about gullible."

Um, that was kinda' the point, Spanky. If you trust in all those things, sorry, you deserve to be had.

gphawk89 4 years, 11 months ago

"Time to get serious" So Obama is pretty much admitting that he hasn't been "serious" for his entire first year as POTUS?

beatrice 4 years, 11 months ago

I wonder how many people on the right who are so upset at Obama still have their two-year old "Anybody but Hillary" t-shirts.

notajayhawk 4 years, 11 months ago

Actually, beatrice, way back then I said of all the Democratic contenders, Obama was the one I could at least live with, because he at least paid lip service to reducing healthcare costs instead of trying to figure out a way to pay for it.

Of course, that's all it was, lip service. So I admit it - the people that voted for him aren't the only ones he fooled.

leedavid 4 years, 11 months ago

He said "I" 96 times, as reported on Foxnews. Why is it always about Obama when he speaks? Can this man say "we" and "us"? Hard to get people to follow when a person, when everything is about them.

70 Minutes too long....jumped all over the place....boring. More promises...he already has over 500 of them. Lets just take three things and get them done this year. Three very important things. May I suggest the economy for one.

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