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Offensive rant

January 26, 2010

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To the editor:

Scott Burkhart rants about those who disagree with him with unfortunate and angry adjectival choices: a public servant in the left-progressive-liberal’s (LPL) political crosshairs, the left-leaning Kansas Supreme Court going after him (former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline) and the Mafia-like revenge messages of the LPL aimed at the rest of us (Public Forum, Jan. 23).

At issue is the court’s 5-2 ruling on Kline’s disregard for Kansas law and apparent disrespect for the court. That issue now sits on LPL (Scott’s tag) Stanton Hazlett’s desk at the Kansas disciplinary board, an organization apparently also LPL. Scott, the issue is Kline’s handling of the law and his regard for the courts. It has nothing to do with “…the killing of children.”

Scott misuses logic. Three examples are the hasty generalization about the LPL’s goals, stereotyping the LPL as Mafia-like and appealing to the crowd by playing on the irrational fears and prejudices of his audience by associating the LPL with child murder and the Mafia. This is malicious & offensive to the fair-minded readers of this paper.

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Agnostick 4 years, 2 months ago

Man, this is really interesting.

Anyone who has EVER jumped into the abortion debate around here--pro-choice, pro-birth, indifferent, whatever--needs to look at what Mercy linked to.

I'd also suggest that you pay very, very close attention to both the data summary and the appendices.

Maybe I'm the ignorant one, and everyone else already knows this stuff. Wouldn't be the first time.

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Agnostick 4 years, 2 months ago

That's more like it, Mercy!!

Very interesting stuff. I've only looked at one year (2007), but as far as the state of Kansas goes, this kinda lays to waste a lot of the urban myths and tall tales pushed by the pro-birth crowd. ;)

Also poses some rather interesting questions about Phill Kline's methodology. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that no one in Kline's office--much less Kline himself--looked at any of this information before they began tilting at windmills.

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com

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Agnostick 4 years, 2 months ago

Mercy...

I was referring to actual research, statistics, records.

The kind of propoganda you provided would be like me asking a tobacco company executive to explain to me why cigarettes aren't dangerous. Or asking someone at Anheuser-Busch is drunk driving is a serious problem.

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blue73harley 4 years, 2 months ago

"How about we work together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies… which provide the market serviced by abortion providers?"

Well said Agnostick. I usually don't comment on this issue because there seems to be no middle ground. Even a reasonable response gets trashed.

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Boston_Corbett 4 years, 2 months ago

"Where is the proof, the facts, that Kline isn't being persecuted for his beliefs"


And when did you stop beating your spouse?

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Boston_Corbett 4 years, 2 months ago

"Why are they worried about Phil Kline, who is teaching in another state"


Because he is still maintains a license (albeit inactive) to practice law in the State of Kansas.

If Mr. Kline intends to remain out of state and would surrender his license, the disciplinary action could be easily resolved.

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puddleglum 4 years, 2 months ago

um....I thought for sure everyone will vote me in as govenor when I propose the sterilization act of 2010: anyone below iq of 115 gets sterilized.

vote puddleglum.

there. abortion problem solved.

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Mercy 4 years, 2 months ago

mom of three

I don't think anyone is claiming that Phil Kline broke any laws. An ethics complaint was filed.

Why are they worried about Phil Kline, who is teaching in another state?

Where is the proof, the facts, that Kline isn't being persecuted for his beliefs?

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Mercy 4 years, 2 months ago

Agnostick State of KS: In 1999, 302 viable babies were aborted In 2000, 380 viable babies were aborted In 2001, 395 viable babies were aborted In 2002, 356 viable babies were aborted

www.kfl.org

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Agnostick 4 years, 2 months ago

Dragon_Wheels, how will that help?

How about this...

How about we work together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies... which provide the market serviced by abortion providers?

Abortion providers--legal or illegal--are like any other business. They serve a market. Take away most, or all of the market, and they will shut down, like any other business without customers coming through the door.

Remove the market, and not only do folks like George Tiller fold up their tents and go home, but so do the reckless crackpots like Phill Kline and Bryan J. Brown and Scott Roeder.

--Ag

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Dragon_Wheels 4 years, 2 months ago

When all those who stand up against abortion start taking on the financial and emotional resposibility for all the "babies" they are trying to save, abortion will no longer exist. Step up folks! Especially all you men who would never have to make such a heartbreaking choice.

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scott3460 4 years, 2 months ago

It has to do with whether he violated his ethical resposibilities as an attorney who has been licensed by the State to practice law. The State has an interest and duty in maintaining those licensing standards. All the rest is just whining by those with an axe to grind.

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Agnostick 4 years, 2 months ago

Mercy (Anonymous) says…

"Even though KS State Law enacted a ban on late term abortions in 1998, late term abortions continued and actually increased in the 3 years after the restrictions were passed, and only began to decrease after Kline was elected Attorney General."


And you base this on what particular kind of evidence?

Kline originally requested unredacted records. Why? Why not hire an independent examiner to go through the records, and then show the judge which records might show something peculiar?

Kline has never been anything but a show pony. He simply wanted to get his name and number on Bill O'Reilly's speed dial. How serious can a lawyer be, when they let their law license expire?

I admit that I was devastated and disappointed by Paul Morrison's shoddy and sneaky practices--but I think he had the right idea pursuing the 19 misdemeanor charges. Make those charges stick, then reel in the bigger fish.

Kline never succeeded in giving George Tiller so much as a parking ticket--and never will. Game over.

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 2 months ago

" It has nothing to do with “…the killing of children.”

Wonder what 50 million babies, were they able to speak, some nearing 40 years old, would say about that comment.

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mom_of_three 4 years, 2 months ago

Burkhart only focused on one part of the issue, but when you only support one part of the issue, its gonna happen. Supposedly Kline is being persecuted for his beliefs, but nothing was mentioned about all the laws he might have broken and how wrong he went about his investigation. So i see exactly where the letter writer was coming from

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Mercy 4 years, 2 months ago

...A complaint was filed in Oct., 2007 and Oct., 2009 with 23,000 total citizen petitions asking for speedy disciplinary action against the other four abortionists: Neuhaus, Carhart, Robinson, and Sella. The KS Board of Healing Arts alleged that Tiller had six years of illegal post-viability abortion referrals. Jack Confer, ex-Executive Director of the KS Board of Healing Arts, was responding to this complaint, but on Oct. 22, he suddenly resigned without explanation.

Kline’s investigation of Planned Parenthood in KC, under the supervision of Shawnee County District Judge Richard Anderson, revealed viable babies beyond the 22 weeks were not be documented as such. KS law requires the abortion doctor to determine the gestational age of the unborn baby and if more than 22 weeks, the baby’s viability.

Kline also noticed that the reports submitted by PP that were supposed to be copies of the KCHE originals did not match the originals. Judged Anderson wanted an unbiased opinion and asked the Topeka Police Department to analyze them. The expert there also thought they “didn’t match up”. Anderson later told the Supreme Court that “Somebody may have committed a felony in an attempt to cover up a misdemeanor.”

There is more corruption than this is you have the eyes to see it. Jack Cashill lays out the history in The Man Behind the Curtain.

It appears that there is corruption on KS Board of Healing Arts, the judicial system when it relates to abortion, KS Supreme Court, just to name a few. Where is the justice? The real problem is not Mr. Burkhart’s “rants”, but why more people in Kansas aren’t outraged!

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Mercy 4 years, 2 months ago

“Nothing to do with killing children?” Interesting thought. Perhaps Mr. Burkhart “rants” are because of the injustice that is happening and has happened in the State of KS.

Even though KS State Law enacted a ban on late term abortions in 1998, late term abortions continued and actually increased in the 3 years after the restrictions were passed, and only began to decrease after Kline was elected Attorney General.

Since Kline was one of the representatives to write the law, he wondered why there was not a decrease in late term abortions. So he began his investigation. In reviewing the records done by abortion doctors, the “reason” for the late term abortions was not specifically stated. That was one of the changes to the law –physician would file a report with KS Dept. of Health and Environment and demonstrate the reason for the abortion. The abortion doctor simply indicated on the form “to avoid substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.”

Kline contacted the credentialed Harvard-trained psychiatrist, Dr. Paul McHugh. After reviewing the records, he responded, “I saw no patient file that justified abortion on that basis.” Some women indicated they were seeking an abortion so they could see a rock concert or so they wouldn’t miss prom. None of these causes showed any sign of irreversible damage.

Another change to the law in 1998, was that in the case of an abortion on a viable baby, a second unaffiliated physician would have to confirm the risk to a mother’s life or health. Dr. Kristin Neuhaus, who was sited as a “danger to the public”, was one of the doctors rubber-stamping the late term abortions at Wichita clinic.

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