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Build mosque elsewhere, Reid urges

August 17, 2010

Washington — The Senate’s top Democrat on Monday came out against plans to build a mosque near the site of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, moving away from President Barack Obama on the controversial election-year issue.

Locked in a tight race, Nevada Sen. Harry Reid became the highest profile Democrat to respond to Obama, who last week backed the right for the developers to build a mosque near ground zero. Since his comments Friday, the Democratic president and his aides have worked to explain the statement, which drew criticism from Republicans and Democrats alike.

Critics have said the location of the mosque is insensitive because the terrorists who struck were Islamic extremists. The plans call for a $100 million Islamic center two blocks from where almost 3,000 people perished when hijacked jetliners slammed into the World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001.

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cato_the_elder 2 years, 9 months ago

The good news is that thanks to Obama's radical agenda the right is quickly becoming the center, which is reflective of the fact that America as a whole, not counting college and university communities and certain urban enclaves, is a center-right country. Reid, who has the words "entrenched incumbent" tattooed on his forehead, is fighting for his political life against a not particularly impressive opponent. Liberal pundits who've said that the Ground Zero issue is important only to New Yorkers are either seriously naive or are deluding themselves.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 2 years, 9 months ago

Clearly, it's not of importance only to New Yorkers. It's become a major issue for reactionary, racist demagogues, and teabaggers in general, and therefore politicians who are currently in close elections.

snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 9 months ago

Hyperbole much?

jaywalker 2 years, 9 months ago

ALWAYS, snap, always!!

Gene Wallace 2 years, 9 months ago

Would you call your Mother a "Teabagger", if she attended Tea Party events? The word "teabagger" is defined as "someone who orally manipulates a male's scrotum". Nancy Pelosi and other "progressive" liberals have KNOWINGLY used this term to describe the Tea Party people. It's just another way you Progressive Bozos use obscene and profane name calling to insult Patriotic Americans.

Guardian 2 years, 9 months ago

So, what's your spin on the why Bloomberg and company won't let the Orthadox Greeks rebuild, that's rebuild, the church that was destroyed during the attack against America, yet they encourage the Muslims to build a mosque there?

reverber 2 years, 9 months ago

Technically, it is the Port Authority holding up the building of the Orthodox church. And while the Orthodox church is actually on "ground zero," the planned mosque is not. It is blocks away (and so out of the Port Authority's jurisdiction).

To paraphrase Disraeli 'There are three kinds of lies:Lies, damned lies, and "facts."'

Guardian 2 years, 9 months ago

I stand corrected on the roadblock. However, my point is still the same. Where is the outrage on this issue?

mr_right_wing 2 years, 9 months ago

Just like everyone else on here besides you, right?

jaywalker 2 years, 9 months ago

Considering the way you post, that includes yourself, Defender. Feel sorry for ya, sincerely.

Agnostick 2 years, 9 months ago

I usually avoid responding to obvious trolls--especially those that have been booted off here before, and keep re-registering with different usernames, email addresses etc.--but in your case, AppleJack, I'll make a rare exception:

Yes, I do get tired of the "constant barrage of insults and criticism" from some users. This is especially true of the usual gallery of Obama hate-mongers and teabaggers that have nothing better to do with their lives. At least one of these individuals seems to be exhibiting symptoms of a particular psychological disease.

As I said, I usually just try to ignore those that just come here looking for attention, and quietly, discreetly encourage others to do so, as well.

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com

jaywalker 2 years, 9 months ago

He's really rather sad, don't ya think, Apple?

oneeye_wilbur 2 years, 9 months ago

Harry Reid should encourage the mosque in Las Vegas and incorporate a casino into it as well.

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!

And Harry can sing "i did it my way"!

Agnostick 2 years, 9 months ago

"My principles on this are two-fold. One, that we have to acknowledge, respect and give some measure of deference to the feelings of the family members who lost their loved ones there that day. But it would be wrong to so overreact to that, that we paint Islam with a brush of radical Muslim extremists that just want to kill Americans because we are Americans. But beyond that ... I am not going to get into it, because I would be guilty of candidly what I think some Republicans are guilty of, and the president is now, the president is guilty of, of playing politics with this issue, and I simply am not going to do it."

Asked if he'd call upon both parties to stop, he said, "Well, that again will be playing politics with the issue. I said what I feel about it, and I don't believe it is up to me to pontificate on other people about what they should do. I just observe what I observe. And I don't believe that this issue should be a political football. I just don't. And I think that both sides of this issue now are using this as a political football. And I don't think it brings people together in America, I think it just further drives people apart, and creates divisions, and I think that's bad for our country. And all people in our country suffer when those kind of things happen."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/08/whos-defending-marginalized-muslims-chris-christie/61589/

Agnostick 2 years, 9 months ago

Uuuhhhhmmm... who are you talking about?

Agnostick 2 years, 9 months ago

Yes. Although my 1:32pm post, including the quote I linked to above... was from a totally different person.

I'm guessing you didn't follow the ink...?

Jimo 2 years, 9 months ago

Wow, Reid sinks to John McCain's level of pandering and self-refutation. Given that his opponent seems to be one lose screw short of an insane asylum, Reid's polling must be quite disturbing.

Agnostick 2 years, 9 months ago

Sorry, I had Lindsey on the brain. OK. Just for the record, I've seen liberal users use the "b" word umteen times with no Kealing removal, and Agnostick has used the word "whore" to describe me numerous times with no removal. Beobachter has used the term "gigolo" to describe me numerous times with no removal. Babboy continually badgers me for "living off my wifes income" and berates me endlessly with no removals. They have no clue what I do, but since I've commented on my wife's travelling/income, they took it and ran with it. As a matter of fact, Whitney, please close my LJW account. I need to quit it anyway. Please de-activate it now. I can see you're Kealing/Cox on steroids. Please delete my account. I want no part of the hypocrisy and censoring of the right and favoring of the left on this forum anymore. This way, everyone knows why I am gone. Have a great life, leftist losers. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jun/30/salmon-latest-vodka-flavor/#c1287315

And please comment Whitney so they know it was per my request. I would appreciate it. I'm sure a blog will quickly go up about me being "disappearded".....with 3-4 hundred comments. I would appreciate you telling them with a post.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/jun/30/salmon-latest-vodka-flavor/#c1287320

Liberty275 2 years, 9 months ago

I'm not surprised to see reid pandering. He'd earn more respect if he were just a racist.

Agnostick 2 years, 9 months ago

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/mojave.asp

Mojave Memorial Cross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaWikipedia

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/28/AR2009092803125.html

One thought: The Mojave Cross was secretly erected on public land; the mosque everyone is so upset about will be constructed on private property. I'm guessing that the mosque is also subject to current zoning, building codes, property taxes etc. ... just as the World Trade Center was when that construction began in the late 1960s.

IndusRiver 2 years, 9 months ago

Edict of Milan....revised?

IndusRiver 2 years, 9 months ago

Critics have said the location of the mosque is insensitive because the terrorists who struck were Islamic extremists.

And this has been proven beyond all shadow of a doubt?

Only the CIA goes around toppling governments, folks. Only the CIA can pull off a 9/11, not Third World mountain people.

cait48 2 years, 9 months ago

I am so sick of this. This thing isn't even a mosque to begin with and it's four blocks away. You can't even see it from Ground Zero and Ground Zero can't be seen from it. What's truly ironic is that there is a REAL mosque right across the street from Ground Zero. It was established in the early 90's before the WTC was even built. Not a single soul has said a word about it. **We need to create an issue!!! It's an election year!!! We have elections in less than three months!!!* What a tempest in a teapot!

mbulicz 2 years, 9 months ago

Where's the uproar over the Christian church and commemorative crosses at the Oklahoma Federal Building bomb site?

The Shinto temple next to Pearl Harbor?

The mosque in the Pentagon?

The US base at Hiroshima?

All equally stupid non-issues. The republicans have had four years to come up with a new campaign strategy, but unfortunately it seems they just recycled "be scared of brown people" from the last election.

mbulicz 2 years, 9 months ago

To be fair, we've been building 'Ground Zeroes' next to Iraqi mosques since 2003.

1029 2 years, 9 months ago

Clearly, this mosque should not be built! Sometimes an issue comes along and as a country we need to know when to put the Constitution aside when determining how to handle the situation. This is one of those times when it would just be foolish to allow such a mosque to be built just because of something written hundreds of years ago by people who didn't live long enough to see the rise of these evil-doers and understand how much they hate America. For once I have to agree with a leftist liberal lunatic... Reid is right: No Mosque at Ground Zero. Period.

cg22165 2 years, 9 months ago

There isn't really a conflict between what Reid said and what Obama said. Obama says the owners of the property have a right to put a mosque there; Reid says it's not really a good idea. In this country, there are a number of ways we can exercise our rights that aren't necessarily good ideas.

Pick any religion; there are those who say they are part of that religion that the majority of followers will want nothing to do with. Banning mosques near ground zero because of what the bombers did would be like banning Catholic churches near any place the IRA conducted an attack.

IndusRiver 2 years, 9 months ago

The Santa Sophia

Hagia Sophia exterior 2007 002.jpg

Christian Crusaders found that the Byzantine Empire was highly advanced and civilized....so much more than they....so they took the best of it as if it were always rightfully theirs.

They were wrong. They're wrong now.

puddleglum 2 years, 9 months ago

I usually worship pudding instead of going to a mosque, but I just finished up eating a jello brand 'mousse temptations' pudding and I need to let everyone know how much it sux. do yourself a favor-don't buy this crap.

I am very beautiful, but this dessert was just horrible, even my presence couldn't save it. what was I thinking? Ray Charles could even see that this was just some kind of marketing ploy to get rid of some old, junky pudding.... deng.

Guardian 2 years, 9 months ago

I just figured out how to stop the mosque from being built. Convince people it will be a Christian church with year round Nativity scenes. The Lord's Prayer will be etched on an outside archway and the names of God and Jesus Christ will be displayed prominently. The goal of the church will be to lobby for the reinstatement of prayer in public schools (hated by Liberals). Let's see if "religion tolerant" progressives (who continually try to find ways to eliminate all of the above) will have the same convictions.