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ACORN activists refuse to buckle to scandal

October 9, 2009

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— Armed with little more than pen and pad, ACORN organizer David Mazariegos hits inner-city streets to save his embattled employer rather than his usual mission of saving homes from foreclosure.

Mazariegos approaches Jose and Maria Rodriguez on their patio surrounded by overflowing potted plants and a Virgin of Guadelupe statue and asks if they would speak at a news conference about how ACORN saved their house.

Maria Rodriguez doesn’t hesitate.

“The only people who helped us were ACORN. We tried to negotiate with the bank, but they wouldn’t listen,” she says. “We paid $5,000 to a company to help us fix the loan. They took the money and didn’t do anything.”

As the nonprofit strives to survive the worst scandal in its 39-year history — videotapes of staffers counseling a faux pimp and prostitute how to run a brothel — the organization is doing what it does best: mobilizing low-income people. In this case, the goal is to restore the organization’s credibility.

The mobilization effort is unfolding on several fronts. People like Rodriguez are being asked to speak up about how ACORN saved them. She and her husband also agreed to work a phone bank and bring five new people to the next community meeting. And ACORN officials say people are donating more money as they rally to the organization’s defense.

“The truth is it broke my heart,” Mazariegos said of the scandal. “But it doesn’t faze me. It was just a couple people who did this, not the organization.”

Comments

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

"the organization is doing what it does best: mobilizing low-income people. In this case, the goal is to restore the organization’s credibility."

Yes, but helping poor people (too many of them brown) is exactly what made them a target of the wingnuts in the first place.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

"43,000 new registered voters in MN, and Coleman loses by 312 votes. How many voters registered via ACORN voted for Coleman?"

Every registered voter is at some point a newly registered voter. Are you suggesting that newly registered voters be required to be under some sort of probation, and if they don't vote the way you want, their votes thrown out?

Please explain.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Bozo, I honestly believe you say these things to try and get the boards goin'. You're too intelligent to believe that this isn't about the wrongdoing of ACORN. You usually seem to be one of the first posters on a story and your take on things has become somewhat see-through.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Also Bozo, something tells me that you would be all over an organization affiliated with the Republican Party that was breaking voter registration laws and embezzling to the degree that ACORN has. Am I wrong here Bozo?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

ACORN certainly has its problems (as all large organizations inevitably do,) but pretty much all of those problems have been caused by the actions of a few individuals, not because they are the result of the organization's goals or policies. But it's precisely the work of ACORN that has made it a target of the wingnuts.

I would take the critics of ACORN much more seriously if they would seek to have every organization or company that receives government funding be subject to the legislation that targeted only ACORN for defunding. Blackwater and KBR come immediately to mind (they are guilty of real, and really serious, crimes and corruption, and have received many $billion, not just a paltry few $million.)

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

I'm all for holding any organization accountable for whatever they do, and to be scrutinized closely, especially if the goal is to make it a better organization.

But clearly, that's not the intent of the wingnuts. A relatively minor problem of bad registrations by a few individuals (all self-reported by ACORN) was merely a pretext to stop what really bothers them-- poor, brown people registering and voting (the wrong way.)

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Bozo, yes - I totally agree that all organizations should be looked into in the same degree and if some group were to expose it in a similar light then they will get what they deserve (as in ACORN's case here).

However, the problem I see with your posts is that you are taking the position of defending ACORN. If you had the view of just wanting to see others face the same consequences I don't believe you would be so adamant about this being a racially driven motive by wingnuts. Your talk isn’t adding up.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

Of course I'm defending ACORN. They've been doing good work that no other organization has stepped up to do. But the fact that that work is with poor, mostly brown people is what has made them a target of the wingnuts. Their goal is to stop the work they do, not to help the organization improve so that it's not hampered by the bad actions of a few individuals.

SettingTheRecordStraight 5 years, 2 months ago

I've subscribed to ACORN's e-newsletter for years. The pure hatred spewed toward anyone on the right by this taxpayer-funded community organzing group was palpable. Had ACORN not 1) demonized its political opponents with taxpayer money, 2) embezzled funds, 3) committed voter registration fraud or 4) engaged in a massive human trafficking cover-up, their very few redeeming qualities might be worth noting. However, the four strikes against them that I outlined above are undeniably so egregious as to warrant their complete dismantling.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus (Anonymous) says… "I would take the critics of ACORN much more seriously if they would seek to have every organization or company that receives government funding be subject to the legislation that targeted only ACORN for defunding".


Then I challenge you to take a video camera (or whatever you need) and go find the corruption in other organizations, then expose it. Personally, I would welcome your insight if you legitimately found something to this level of corruption. I wish more citizens were advocates for "the people" of our country but sadly too many are involved with their day to day lives that they rely on others to do the work for them. If it's deemed credible by the majority of the public the hammer will come down.

Also, much of what was embezzled was from the top of ACORN, not from the actions of a few individuals.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

"Then I challenge you to take a video camera (or whatever you need) and go find the corruption in other organizations, then expose it."

The information is already out there. The same standards should apply to all.

"Also, much of what was embezzled was from the top of ACORN, not from the actions of a few individuals."

To my knowledge, the embezzlement was by one individual, the brother of one of its founders. That situation wasn't handled properly, but penalize the individuals involved, not the organization or the thousands of people who depend on it.

RobertMarble 5 years, 2 months ago

the headline should read: "acorn activists refuse to buckle to ethics or the law"

SettingTheRecordStraight 5 years, 2 months ago

"...penalize the individuals involved, not the organization..." -bozo

Better yet, shift the responsibility to a legitimate organization not mired in systemic corruption and lawlessness.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Bozo, let's just take the findings as conclusive in an internal investigation done by ACORN. I don't buy it and I don't want to see our taxes go to an ultra corrupt organization. There are a lot of organizations out there that help "brown people" but you do seem fixated on this one for some reason.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/10/acorn_embezzlement_was_5_milli.html

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

"Better yet, shift the responsibility to a legitimate organization not mired in systemic corruption and lawlessness."

Clearly, that's what you want to believe, so it's all the proof you require. But the simple fact is that there has been no verified evidence supplied by anyone to support that contention.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 2 months ago

"There are a lot of organizations out there that help “brown people” but you do seem fixated on this one for some reason."

The fixation is among wingnuts, not with me. I just don't want their hysteria to destroy the important work that ACORN does.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Bozo, ever heard the term "where there's smoke there's fire"? ACORN has been a festering, heaping mound of ashes and smoke for years but yet the fixation is on the wingnuts.

ozzynbn 5 years, 2 months ago

Bozo can't even remotely speak civil of the Republican party. The vitirol he spews is getting redundant. More substance from his posts regarding the topic at hand would land him more credibility than the usual "wingnut" reponses he so liberally throws about.

btw...... ACORN isn't a needed organization. If people took personal responsibility for getting out to register to vote on their own (I did), get a home loan (I did), etc.... then the American tax payers could have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of their hard earned dollars back instead of giving it to a corrupt entity that caters to the lazy.

You need to a new prescription for those "rose colored" glasses you wear when you read "good" things about ACORN. The rest of the world sees a different picture.

georgiahawk 5 years, 2 months ago

I don't know that much about ACORN, but what i do know is that they are at the center of a vast conspiracy to take over the government and turn it into a socialist, no, a communist style of government. I know there are people out there that think that Glen Beck is an idiot, but his chalkboard can't be. Just look at it, it has too many arrows to be wrong!

KansasVoter 5 years, 2 months ago

Why is it that ACORN is getting all of this attention? Why not look into the scandals of Blackwater/Xe, KBR, and other defense contractors? Those contractors have ripped-off hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars and committed actual crimes, but they still get new no-bid contracts year after year.

MrShades 5 years, 2 months ago

KansasVoter, A simple answer would be that too many in Washington are bought paid for by the groups you mention. If you know they are bad, and I know they are bad, but nobody in DC (on either side of the aisle) does anything about it, just follow the money. Where you find their money, you will find your answer.

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